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simon in bangkok u.s. authorities fight for his extradition. the man suspected of organizing the two deadly blasts in most schools metro was linked to international terrorist organizations by no more than just a few minutes. and online whistleblower weiqi leaks leaks again but its latest revelations from the cia failed to set the world on. two am in moscow i matter as a thanks very much for being with us here on r t our top story thai authorities say a russian businessman wanted in the u.s. for global arms smuggling will not be extradited immediately the delays are reportedly over additional charges of fraud and money laundering in the us in february and with victor boot still in solitary confinement the time media has now
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produced its own version of events as artie's catarina as our reports. oh a small. story that was actually more similar to a short propagandist style documentary of basically documented the life and allegedly dealings of the russian businessmen there and also quoted some unnamed american authorities who are allegedly and possession of evidence that proves victor booth was involved or somehow is somehow involved in the nine eleven terrorist attacks in the united states of course this is something that has just surfaced there has been no mention of it whatsoever leading many analysts to wonder why exactly is the united states had this evidence before hand they didn't make it public because surely that would have strengthened their case against it that are built and maybe have even made of the criminal court which earlier refused boots extradition to swing the case their way and actually believe the evidence that they
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have so the fact that this evidence has just appeared when the united states are clearly facing difficulties with the extradition process this is leah this is leading many to wonder what kind of evidence this is what the who what kind of sources. is the thai television channel actually relying on and why this information is surfacing just now of course week that a bullet is waiting for a decision from the thai authorities about his extradition date the united states wanting to extradite him as quickly as possible following that decision on august twentieth allegedly and especially chartered plane traveled all the way to thailand and it is currently stationed at a u.s. air force base in the country waiting specifically to transfer of mr booth back to the united states however thai authorities do say that because the united states filed new charges against the russian businessman those charges now have to be processed criminally in order for the man to be extradited the united states of
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course realizing that they've basically tripping up their own case are now trying to withdraw those charges but what this will lead to how this story will develop when nobody knows so far and brian johnson former arms trafficking expert for the u.n. security council believes boots extradition is a matter of when and not if. i'm not quite clear why the americans have fought this case so today should study maybe she was devoted to money they spent on the sting operation but certainly they're very very keen to get back to the states on the consequences that will follow i think there are two points here one is that the reason why they dropped the money laundering charges may be that they can concentrate purely on the sting operation is alleged to have agreed to supply weapons to the phone if that happens then the courts in america may also be directed not to look at anything other than the sting operation so they will not be
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able to bring into courts and to open the courts the many times when victims of some service to the pentagon or whoever else the think that victor will go to america he will go on trial in manhattan and he will be found guilty on the narrow charges of agreeing to supply the fox i don't think that's necessarily fair but that's what's going to happen stay with us here on r t lots more headed your way including the man hoping to move up in the world and into the kremlin. with the recent checkered history russia has left a lot of people with claims to property some ludicrous others serious for me the self-proclaimed royal seeking to evict the russian president from the kremlin claiming it's his ancestral home first though the head of russia's federal security service says newly discovered documents link the man believed to be behind the moscow metro blast with international terrorist organizations the evidence was found after a mega mega leave was killed in a special operation in dagestan last week r t z of our piskun of has the details.
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basically these secret documents don't only contain information on what i mean by most contacts in the opposition but also international contacts with international terrorist organisations the are forty six claim also that the now i know that the last phone told me that only by gum also cell phone was international as well though they did not disclose the name of the crime she it was made with all of this is according to the head of the russian federal security service and basically this announcement finding some documents link him going. to international terrorist organizations that these documents were discovered last week as a result of a special operation republican style by authorities in which by the other himself posted by governor himself is a major figure the suspect in a organizing the deadly blast in moscow metro march twenty one two female suicide
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bombers attacked the two metro stations of the peak of the morning rush hour killing forty people and injuring one hundred hours others my government is also suspected of committing another blast in the discussion this week after not targeting a police station and also. organizing around food to get tanks on the podium which several policemen were killed and basically these documents also hold information on the precise plans and talking to its off terrorist attacks which got the ball in bloody so this is definitely going to help the investigation the federal security service says that it now has the names of all the people connected to the blast in moscow metro at the end of march and the investigation is definitely going to continue. at the whistle blowing web site wiki leaks is causing a stir again after posting an internal cia report document classified as secret
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focuses on the perception of the united states as an export or of terrorism for more on the newly published revelations years artie's lauren lyster reporting for our new york studios. there's nothing new in this memo it's a very short memo from the central intelligence agency that in essence is and now is this that has been done many times over by journalists and analysts here in the united states already it talks about the impression basically of the reputation the u.s. may have abroad with foreigners as acts terrorism and it talks about cases that are that have been well documented all over the media of five pakistani american young men who traveled from northern virginia overseas to allegedly join the pakistani taliban it talks about as well the case of david healy who is a u.s. citizen who was believed to be involved in surveillance for the terror attacks in india so these are well documented cases and their impression that they've made on
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the international community has been analyzed many times over also in this cia document it talks about if the u.s. policy on rendition is seen as too one sided that could hinder the u.s. is getting cooperation from foreign governments which i don't think is news to anybody there are a lot of people questioning more and more what the motives are of wiki leaks especially with the wiki leaks the man behind the website julian saunders who has seen increased criticism for being kind of a publicity monger himself and acting with immense who briss and really seeking promotion with these releases you'll recall after the seventy five thousand classified documents on the afghan war were released soon after that on the website they published a insurance document that was encrypted but many people that we spoke to sources said that the u.s. government could easily decrypt this document so so what really was the point of
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putting that up wasn't just for publicity there was immense speculation on that and also criticism over julianna songe the man behind. this website for acting really irresponsibly even people that supported his release of the afghan war documents said he may have been not careful enough and redacting names that possibly could have gotten people hurt so there have been increasing questions i really what is motivating a sign is it publicity is it who brace is it his own intentions itself. are you contributor wayne madsen says the pentagon is using the wiki leaks scandal to gain more government funding what we're seeing between wiki leaks and the department of defense is some sort of japanese kabuki theater dance where we cue leaks does something the pentagon reacts and you know how long is this going to go on and it makes one wonder why does the pentagon reagan react to wakey leaks i
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think the best thing for the pentagon to do is just ignore wiki leaks of their upset. you know they're looking obviously for public and every time they hammer each these careful it's what i call controlled hemorrhage of documents they're looking for massive publicity because i noticed that along with this release of this document came some sort of appeal for funds and remember you can always find much more on the stories we cover and a whole lot more on our website r t v dot com here are some of the topics of what's online today. just call him the impaler russia's premier takes to the water armed with a crossbow on the hunt for gray whales in this case just to collect skin samples to help with the preservation of the species in the country's far east plus the speed and the lamb are both clamor for the attention of car lovers including me as the moscow international motor show gets into gear manufacturers from around the world
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are showcasing their latest shiny speedy offerings and you can see them to. more than forty people have been killed in a string of bombings that of iraq to iraq in baghdad alone more than twenty bombs exploded in the last twelve at least twelve separate incidents the attacks came just a day after the u.s. announced it had withdrawn the last of its combat troops but fifty thousand remain to advise iraqi forces although it's the lowest number of soldiers since the start of the war in two thousand and three today's bombings are raising questions about the iraqi government's ability to deal with the ongoing insurgency. from the arab lawyers association says the bombings may actually be the iraqi government's way of getting u.s. troops to stay. there are
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a variety of reasons why it should happen and various theories but one of the i think one of the more credible one is that the government is actually involved itself in it in order to prevent them from pulling out or at least the troops they leave they must be engaged in military and use of force not just training as it was claimed by the americans although people are talking about forming a government whether it's allowed you whether it's maliki and what have you that is really not the situation in iraq has been dismantled there is no government there is no the authority in iraq the prime minister cannot leave the green zone there is no military or police in iraq because they are all militias who have been recruited to wear the same uniform but that allegiance is not a national one but there are legions either faction or group or to their tribe trying to establish democracy by military force is
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a hopeless task according to political theorist john donne who believes the process of change must be peaceful you can watch the full interview later this hour here's a sneak peek. process of democratization you could say is progress towards a very good outcome which hasn't actually come anywhere in the world so far so if you have an ambitious goal of democratization what those two experiences taken together of taught us is that it's absolutely hopeless to try to move fast in the direction of that kind. of. country to pieces of. invading them without going into inform yourself. believes that this is a menace to their inhabitants. of the. whole. new afghanistan which isn't really under anyone ever. promising candidates for rapid
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democratization and it isn't possible to democratize anywhere by bombing us invading it. turned out of some other stories making headlines across the globe the bodies of eight victims of the manila bus hijacking have arrived in hong kong earlier survivors relatives and friends together with the coffins boarded the plane after the ceremony their letter took off as the philippines observe a day of mourning the attack took place on monday when an ex policeman held a bus load of tourists at gunpoint in hopes of getting his job out. the remains of seventy two bodies have been discovered at a ranch near the mexican city of san fernando fifty eight men and fourteen women were all migrants from south and central america troops were involved in a shootout with suspected drug traffickers after one of the migrants escaped and alerted nearby security forces and authorities believe they were trying to reach the u.s. when they were kidnapped by a gang. in china the black boxes of
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a plane that crash landed killing forty two people have been found fifty four others were injured. in a crash the plane was trying to land at night in fog when it overshot the runway and burst into flames a group of chinese officials were aboard including the deputy minister a deputy minister a minister who is in critical condition. a self-proclaimed royal is bringing a legal case against the russian government claiming the kremlin is rightfully his the so-called grand prince of all russia says it's his god given right to rule over the place but critics think he's bluffing and a discredit to genuine royalty. one day soon the russian president will move out of the kremlin and dismantle move in if he gets his way. need the grand prince of all russia but it could but if. you're a store procedure should play a decisive role in the fate of the country property is a sacred right and we are the owners of the kremlin the government just lodges
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that's why we filed a lawsuit for it to be returned to us. who would have claims to be a long lost ascendant over an extinct in a city that hasn't ruled russia for four hundred years he says his ancestors and other nobles paid for the construction of the criminal with their own money so the family should return there when he has no legal grounds at all for his claims he's just trying to make a name for himself the law clearly says that the property belongs to the state his critics say the grand prince was a communist party functionary a bank executive and a failed column and she can that before quite unexpectedly stumbling upon his role roots which is the podium with his is not a case for genealogist but for psychiatrists he seems to more discredit the aristocracy than anything despite being labeled alternatively mentally ill or a megalomaniac the grand prince remains upbeat about the i'm not
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a clown with my heritage i've been given the power that ordinary people have not to look off to places and these people further hearings are scheduled for october. i am now the problem is unlikely to change owners any time soon but what the story does prove is that with a three thousand checkered history russia has left a lot of people with claims to property some ludicrous others serious. moscow. finally in this news block moscow has been a rocking to the sound of you to the irish supergroup performed in russia for the first time almost eighty thousand fans flocked to the venue even the rain that came as a surprise in the capital failed to dampen the spirits of the fans bopping to their favorites some of the tickets that had been on sale since january topped up thousand dollars a huge spider robot stage the largest in rock n roll history was set up for the concert hundreds of trucks were brought in just to install it the band has been in
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town since sunday and bondo and dmitri medvedev met dmitri medvedev ahead of the show it turned out that the two shared a common love of led zeppelin. rock on well that brings you up to date here on r t i'll be back in about ten minutes with a recap of our top stories first our interview since the birth of the idea nation greece democracy has undergone many changes in definition but is still essential for politics and peace that's according to historian and theorist john donne who spoke with our teens laura emmett in london.
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democracy originally meant that it's the people who hold the power and excise who you say that sometimes that's a thumping false could you elaborate well it's not what we have today because very obviously i didn't rule the united kingdom and you don't group the united kingdom and. so you could argue about how many people do it but certainly not very many people who have this in the very definitely on most of this is and in athens the systems weren't a very large proportion of the population but they did take all the better public decisions and there went to very many people who were chosen to exercise special powers bizzare and war to the the military leaders were elected
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and that was seen as a rather undemocratic practice because of the speed necessary because in a war you want to be quite sure that you were led by the people who are most likely to lead you to victory do you think democracy can be used to cover up our. school system well i think it always is i mean that is in a way the main point i want to make i mean this is democracy is both the name of a form of government not very clearly defined form of government and a political pretension or party political claim which is that the form of government is actually authorized by the people at the very very great majority of states in the world. governments which claim to be authorised by the people but if you ask how the people actually do their authorizing the answer is they have a very very small bit rate if they intervene in some countries barely at all and in any countries only every few years and there are.
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he freely and in a way which gives the mix stream little control over the outcome he said anything to us had a profound effect on democracy could you describe roughly speaking since the end of the second world war the united states has definitely been a theory opinion that the rest of the world should be governed in much the same way as it was government has been much the most powerful state in the world there for that period of time and it's insisted with a very environments and very in cursive innes on the merits of its way of its approach to governing to other peoples and obviously. for a long period of time between shortly after the end of the second world war and the collapse of the soviet union it was a century in a global power struggle with a completely different way of organizing and both of which i mean called themselves
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democracy a base of which had some grounds for accord themselves democracy and neither of which on the time offering have very strong grounds for calling themselves democracy because that isn't what democracy meant. the us version of democracy it's viewed with suspicion and the islamic world in the same post last america is sponsoring insurgency hot twenty first century democracy the united states has no particular insight into most of the rest of the world and it's. a long time a very considerable set up with paro for any other potential competitor newt has to . bury considerable overconfidence about its capacity to judge what's good and bad for other countries and obviously under the. george w. bush presidency it interferes a lot in other parts of the world on the basis of that judgment in
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a very indiscreet way and yet that seems how democracy scene isn't it nowadays in this sort of evangelical way in fact george w. bush said democracy was the best weapon in fighting terrorism what did you think when he said yes well i thought he was a fool. but i thought he was a fool and the people behind him were knaves if you see what i mean i mean that claim was made in defense of a very forward military and political policy on the united states of the united states in various parts of the world and that policy has not proved at all wise and it was inherently objectionable in some respects. well no decent motives behind the tool but there were a lot of not very decent motives behind it and it was a very stupid policy one has to really pull all the regimes in basic iraq and afghanistan to force us about the process of democratization the process of democratization you could say is progress towards
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a very good outcome which hasn't actually come out anywhere in the world so far so if you have an ambitious can step short of democratization what those two experiences taken together of tortoise is that it's absolutely hopeless to try to move fast in the direction of that and by bombing countries to pieces and invading them. without bothering to inform yourself about what was you know. the views and beliefs and practices of most of their inhabitants. under saddam hussein the very whole of london. new afghanistan which isn't really under any one ever. told promising candidates for rapid democratization and it isn't possible to democratize anywhere by bombing it in invading it and here she really pessimistic about the ability of democracy to
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bring peace to the middle east well i do think that the middle east is not the sort of place where democracy is going to assist peace foxed. i mean it is a very important fact that the. the mayster peace verse group amongst the palestinians won the elections in gaza are and they won the elections in gaza because more of the population of gaza agreed with their decision of what was going on and what it meant than with that of their opponents and i think that. i mean israel anyway. within the jewish population i mean it has been a democracy since it became a state but it hasn't become much more specific as a result of being a democracy and it's. it started off in a very bad place and. it's not
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a two clear to me i can get back from that position but it is clear to me that democracy is irrelevant. it's a jungle and he won't. question was the same on the taxpayers' money i mean i get what i says yes i am a real nigerian it's not just the world means the turn of robin hood should the rich be taxed more for the benefit to everyone else and what kind of. wealthy british style. is not right with. the. markets why not
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come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike's concert for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cons a report on our disarming saddam hussein. mass majority of iraqi citizens. this if it brings further assurance that the torture chambers and the secret police are gone forever. flies again over embassy in kabul. cherish to watch occupied afghanistan. now occupy sales at guantanamo bay. in the manner. that is appropriate today in cordons this but just weekend with the good even. if a slap stomach slap if you can should diminish so that it shocks them especially
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