it could be different in every country but it is clear that there are mutual values mutual it brooches value of human life freedom of the binion freedom of speech freedom of religion private property of course all those things that are up howden russia have to be protected and implemented as part of the political system that we are building the president has proposed a number of amendments to legislation this him and meant allow the opposition to participate in the life of the country there have been cases where civil society appealed to the president directly and received a response that past example is the situation around the him to forest it got the president's attention after the opposition as well as united russia asked him to stop the process of clearing the woods and study the situation in more depth the president has mentioned the issue several times it is important for authorities to stay in constant dialogue with civil society with its representatives expressing

certain opinions so that there is always consensus on all issues. all the changes mentioned in the article can't happen overnight does president need to be of planning to run for a second term to see through all the reforms he envisions. i don't think that's the right way to look at it the point is not just the second term the point is that like you said it will take more time than just a year or two to implement the plans declared by the president. the modernization engendered put forward by the head of state is supported by both the majority of society and the government that is why solving this problems goes beyond the framework of one presidential term this is gender is not just some program that has been put together haphazardly it deals with serious urgent problems that have to be addressed. not there yet thank you very much for joining me this was the press secretary off the president now to mark or.

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shouldn't be jealous about russia's approach to new security treaty for europe as it could help everyone but he also a criticism of democratic standards in russia saying that the adoption of a parliamentary democracy for the contrary would be a catastrophe just as it has been based on. the sessions have been lighting candles it calls the russian republic to mourn seventeen victims of a suicide car bomb attack on thursday the festivals have already taken place while some of the one hundred sixty eight injured are being treated in moscow. investigates the rapid growth of the islamic america with a number of cold but since the nine eleven terror attacks increasing despite claims the media fuels on to some extent. a festival of travel executives born in moscow over twenty years ago helped mold the thing you were in relations between east and west on the eve of the fall of the iron curtain the man who's in charge of it today is the guest now going to show spotlight right now.

wealthy british style it's time to explain the free. market why not scandals. find out what's really happening to the global economy in these kinds of reports. hello again wanting to spotlight to enter the show on our take i'm al green of in today my guest in the studio is john kilduff. the festival of traveling theaters told me of a kind of on two thousand and ten was born in moscow more than twenty years ago at

that time the festival might be a new era in relations between east and west on the eve of the fall of the outskirts but what are the challenges today to us in this question our guest in the studio is the manager of the festival john kelly. the press to both strolling theaters mirror caravan two thousand and ten is the comeback of the band that be formed across europe after the fall of the berlin wall of that its aim was to help build bridges between the recent cold war rivals and the time has shown they've been successful john kilbey has been with a company jury performances in nine hundred eighty nine now he's become the tour manager and takes them to countries from germany to russia crossing many borders borders that's what he's fighting. john welcome to the cheryl thank you thank you very much for being with us it's a pleasure having the hands of those after all these years meza matter of fact they

first of all was born and. eighty nine and why did you decide to repeat the then to this year after all these all these years all these events you like just this down joke well if it was me i would say because i'm nostalgic times of perestroika is the same with you. over there's obviously you're a throwback to twenty years ago but really it's a regrouping of independent artists twenty years later to maybe look at the changes that have happened in the last twenty years to be in the present did they did they manage to do to maintain their independence in their ideas to stay independent they were. just to describe a little bit what may occur when one thousand nine hundred nine was it was started in one thousand nine hundred seven in fact the talks between the pollution who was the director of litter day in leningrad who invited who wanted to put together

a mere caravan the caravan of peace in russia and he sent out invitations to. many groups in western europe to be part of the caravan mir in russia i was with a group called fruits man travelling theatre at the time and i wasn't so interested in just coming to russia to perform so when i met with solver i suggested that maybe we should bring me a caravan starting in moscow finishing and in western europe when we finished in paris to larry and it developed from there so what happened was we had four groups from the east really today. which is a music group whose chief was. not. was my go to neo theater of the day from poland who were exiled. for hour in italy and

divider who is an opera glasgow from prague along with a company from france so very your throne spain and. nuclear front for are in italy and we put together this tour starting in the park of the red army in moscow and traveling from moscow to leningrad leningrad to gloss over to prague west berlin. copenhagen bar. and we finished in paris is going to five minutes late you mentioned those cities which most of them are capitals this year so we must know more capitals you prefer smaller towns this time now this one this time in fact the torch started improving normal in. germany are not a not a capital frankfurt which is not going to happen after only i don't know the capital of theatre oh yeah but not the kind of like the country so now you're

moscow. times have changed times have changed when we were putting together the store the idea was that we would start in paris go to berlin and come to moscow but the political situation is such and not least it's the economic situation because when we started this tour. with i have to say thank you to the european union because we got money from the european union from an institutional building partnership program here in moscow. was exactly the time of the credit crunch so when we were talking with potential partners in paris and berlin everybody hold on there's no money you know where this is the wrong time so we really caught up in an economic boom for ticks many people are caught up in still today. but and so we were looking for alternatives and the alternatives

actually came from the groups and cells bruno is where divide was an upper class go come from frankfurt. undergone theatre and so on ok now this certainly were problems twenty years ago and there surely are problems now because you are sort of a person who likes to create problems he doesn't find. from the anyway so can you tell me what were the problems at the time of perestroika despite their history and what are the main problems now are there similar problems for the. kind of similar problems but that's a whole reflection which i. would prefer to talk about after we've finished. this one never knows twenty years ago it was under the soviet system and somewhere it was a lot easier because you know what the system is today it's very much.

less clear what the system is we find that in one thousand nine hundred nine the bureaucracy was of. one system state now we find the bureaucracy is just as. present in fact only present but within a system which is. kept out of this. ok now listen well you were share within this festival delta word was always very political and one of your best friends was mr muslim and i have a quote from mr howe who said when you're a kind of man stopped in prague at the beginning of july nineteen eighty nine it was like a rehearsal for the velvet revolution would you agree that your caravan somehow precipitate a dramatic change in the automobile here absolutely i would say that as an

independent independent fear to rot is to them we were one hundred eighty six people living together for five months twenty six nationalities with all the different languages and barriers that the language barrier throws up to have a modernized whole. moving first of all was quite extraordinary and i went to berlin before the before we started the tour i went to his poland to talk with the the people responsible for culture and he spoke them because i had an idea that maybe we could because we made. a collective creation called the odyssey from home all the groups one hundred fifty artists and technicians involved in one performance. and i wanted this odyssey to begin in east berlin and to finish in west berlin which was

a dream and of course i got to get to east berlin and i mean it was still there were still there we'll get to east berlin and talking with the people responsible for culture and i think. it's a very good idea but we don't have any theaters available in july and i say well we don't need theaters we have tents and we play outside of. ok we don't have any hotel rooms. but we don't need hotel rooms we have kind of and so and then i realized that there's no way that east berlin was going to cross the wall but when we did the tour and we ended with we took the stress of the seventeenth of june in berlin west which is up against the brandenburg gate. and we did the odyssey there finishing symbolically before the brandenburger tor do

you do you still do you still communicate with mr. you meet mr gorbachev here and here in moscow. like do you really need the support of politicians to keep going is it just inspirational maybe some some other kind of support or some sort of satisfaction when you when you do get the support of someone like ex-president novel who we've seen recently his his group or one of one of his. plays is being performed by a divider who's an opera of us go who were those twenty years ago so so how do we still in the titles. he's the one of the patrons of the tour we also have support from. the minutes to foreign affairs in france and recently we had a letter a very positive letter from mr lavrov the russian foreign minister of russia what

we're going to tell the the godfather of perestroika i did not tell him no no i have no i never met him i didn't meet him in one thousand nine hundred nine either . at the time or it was a problem and i had contacts. with eduard shevardnadze. for foreign minister the former foreign foreign minister who promised for. just twenty rocket carriers to take on that or as like as mobile stages as mobile stages for in fact it was for. space bridges this is an extraordinary man russian man called joseph golden i don't know if you heard of him but he was the first man to do a space bridge from san francisco to the center of moscow i did not deny it is a paid. for in terms of it was a very early producer. and i was one of the german this is a right. well anyway we're talking to john carroll be one of the founders and

director of new kind of ran a festival of traveling beards spotlight will be back shortly right after a break we'll continue this interview in less than a minute so stay with us don't go. i'm discovering. the.

communicate with the wind. yourself. give you. a. welcome back to spotlight just a reminder that today we're talking to john kilbey he is the he's the one of the founders and director of media kind of on the festival of traveling theater is that after twenty years is back in moscow mr killick you mentioned that that actually you're on a festival you caravan proceeded the fall down fall of the berlin wall and there are now a couple weeks off to you you moved out from berlin. the walk

a wall collapsed but another another serious thing maybe even more serious is that your journey across europe back and back in nineteen eighty nine was followed by a series of salvage revolutions and polluting the one headed by vaslav oh well is there any kind of revolution you would like to bring about today this time that you know that your men the that you're making you are. this thing said it anything anything that you are really driving at we're didn't set out to create a revolution twenty years ago we happened to be in time with history whether we're in time with history this time. in two thousand and time. but yeah there are certain borders but i see. which can be border the economic philosophical.

geographical still the same i mean east and west and things like that or or how are they changing or moving somehow these borders how do you see it as an artist. i just i just drove from your to moscow. and the borders the border has moved whereas twenty years ago but border with the east. it was in east germany and then you're going to poland you know we had the iron curtain that we had that was the border yeah. you know on the border. yeah to russia really well we can through the border. i think partly because of you two hundred drugs. so you follow you know little coming here we're going out as we were coming in. but the border the

bureaucracy that we've found a good border. i really don't understand why common else which i think russia actually needs. is blocked by so much bureaucracy when i realize that some people smuggle you know this flag or whatever smuggler conics which is which is very see this is by the one of the reasons when the russians when even the russian president says let's let's get away with the visas to europe they say well we'll be glad to do that but they but the drug traffic from afghanistan through russia to europe and this is this is very big than you're talking borders north south as well because the drugs are coming from from africa they come across from south america to africa. i mean the drugs and drug

situation is horrific worldwide you mentioned you mentioned here too as you probably know boehner met president medvedev and there would be well i don't even i don't know he came here going he met the person who was always a rock family the president is a rock fan he met bono they talked to extend bono is very active socially politically he's not even like a star you becoming a political figure do you think that artists should be so much socially engaged doesn't that there's the distract them. from from what they're supposed to do do you believe that it's only when you're questioned about it because when you're travelling theatre you're actually and that's one of the reasons why i'm involved in this movement hundreds of movement of physical movement is because with the traveling theatre you meet your public every night it's not a question of being bono on stage for a hundred thousand people who he will never get to talk to he'll get to talk to the

president but i never got to talk to somebody and we stopped and village called story is brisk north of ostroff fantastic direct contact with the with the public interest base in russia and a little bit yeah i speak some. but which are very useful in small places like libya and i just about burton i say are. more on the power of art now in a report by spotlights to me that. the power of god is definitely stronger than the power of nature despite weather being quite cold muscovites left their warm homes and came here to coleman square park to see performances by trouble from across europe. muttering in the wind actors dressed like butterflies are all part of a project to one thousand young actors from different russian cities it's been

masterminded by japanese choreographer shusaku to q he believes people from different nations can understand each other better through art but now all of them are people have. seen about how jungle feature. and. while shusaku concentrated on future a check feeder group came up with a flashback into the past the main character of their political satire was we write in former president what's love that. well he's also a strong in the power of art when travel and feel used to make you easy go he called their performances every post with a transmission today festival director nothing. says your favorite kind of theater is one which trace to transform reality but on a. new kind of man is not on an artistic event the project is also of social and political importance here we have people of the planet who gathered to show that we

can leave and create together it's not only the actors who get to feel you have unity open you lose the boundaries between consumers and the audience along the past was an opportunity to become part of the show. if i if i understand right what you just said is that an artist should do his work should do his are american but but he should be aware of the political and the so show reaction out camera well whatever that can be caused by what he does is that true i think it's inherent in the profession. but like talking politics starting to get to become a political figure a social figure is not exactly right or is it. sometimes whenever you are posed a question you have to answer and you have to answer. it in

a responsible way and that's what i hope i'm doing right now but i'm not going to stand you know i want to stand for what i mean we can we can look at and we can live we can have like like extreme examples like rome reagan was a bad actor and become a pretty good president you can't politician but but he just continued being an actor he was he was naturally more so is there a way i guess it depends on the individual you know under the. the individual group and some people i mean to. an actor not an actor but to be an actor you have to have an ego you know you must want to be seen and to be applauded by a public you don't want to be a bad actor you want to be a good actor you are quoted by russian press and here is one of the quotes. like him junkie would be as he says continues could to question the boundaries and ideologies and also to emphasize the need for dialogue and intercultural

corporation in europe in the twenty first century and quote. so what do you see as the major obstacles to unity let's say on the european continent is there is there any burning war today the bureaucracy there are procedures bureau where not only in this country in any control in europe in the european bureaucracy like i have to go . around that target target number one brussels. or moscow on what those there's certainly room for change because. the artists need to create and to create you need money and you need time and you need support now to get the to arrive internal bureaucracy to get your money we don't need to see you you could never never get the money that we don't need so much bureaucracy because the money which is used for creation is eaten by by

bureaucracy on the story but yes the number of people who are checking all the time on what you do with the money costs a fortune it costs a fortune in time and effort and there are so many people involved in making sure that you're not corrupt. but there's nothing left but the artist. conundrum so so so you would you would call the. modern bureaucracy the new the new berlin wall. that divides people there has to be a certain amount of your of course the of course but the police there is the one basically on one going to come from i don't know what you and i don't know what you mean. in some in some developments in some in some neighborhoods they they make it a law that the fence around your place shouldn't be higher than their like like

like a meter you know when it's this way it keeps the dogs out but it but it's two meters it's two are the same with bureaucracy i mean when there is you need some bureaucracy but when it's too much of a bureaucracy it becomes a berlin wall is that what you're kind of with a sort of not exactly i think it's a. simple. what i would defend is the the artists right to create without without. too many restrictions i was about to say that i come from an anarchist background. and anneke is for me in the purest sense is the responsibility of the individual and i consider that we lose track of the individual and we don't allow for the individual to be responsible. coming through russia this time

traveling through villages i see a problem an ecological problem and it's an ecological disaster i stopped in a camping car outside a good garren. i drive at night to stop in a place which wasn't possible twenty what it was but it was less likely twenty years ago when i stop in a place and it looks beautiful little nice little village and those little late wake up in the morning the place is covered in plastic bottles and crap it's just awful which means that the individuals that are throwing this are not responsible they don't consider but people like me might come by and go. now so there's an educational problem as well i mean there are many borders what i was talking about the in the. in this is the site.