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murky world of neo nazis and right wing extremists part two of our special report is up next. are. when i very first got involved and showing and even started hanging out with skinheads and different people like that i was searching for something and when i met the scan heads. it was kind of like a whole new arena for me they were feared they were angry and i was angry inside and didn't really realize what my reasons were. it was kind of the perfect match for me the first organize group i was involved in was area nations and then i was about seventeen. not long after that i got involved with the

church of the creator i started writing a column for women i used a false picture and a fake name and i would write different articles about the role of women and hate groups and that kind of stuff i felt a sense of belonging somewhere and being in an atmosphere where people wanted me around. being a woman people did start to know me so when i did travel around and meet different groups i started to find that my reputation got there long before i had. i got the tattoo on my lip for the first time when i was seventeen and i had it read john to darken it that was almost like my racists class wearing a swastika and i said yes and the tricycle won. angela first came to our attention through her involvement in the domestic a group. got involved in

a crime in which jewish businessman was pistol whipped. and we came upon and it's all video store that was just a couple miles. from where i live. we all sat in the car except for one of the guys and he went in and actually rob the store. he made the guy put his head in a cabinet and he hits the clerk with the gun and pistol whipped him and told him to stay there. or sarge sway with conspiracy to arm robbery and i was also given a firearm charge because there was a firearm involved and i testified in those proceedings and had a pretty low opinion of angela king and her associates. quite frankly i was glad to see that they received the punishment the good news. she fell into a real neo nazi skinhead life and the result was from such participated to major

crimes so you know ultimately and she can't went to prison for four years when i was first incarcerated i was struck and really surprised because there were so many different people women you know of all every color you could imagine every culture and. they treated me like a human being. after being there for a couple months i started to really question everything that i had done what i was doing there and how i had gotten myself there. i think the first person i actually revealed my tattoos to was an older jamaican woman and i sat down after rooming with her for a while and explain to her what i used to be involved in and showed her some of my tattoos. i went from one end of the spectrum where i hated everyone to the complete

opposite end of the spectrum where i didn't see colors or different countries i saw just people. when i first met angela i have to tell you i was absolutely amazed i didn't know what to believe and what not to believe i was very impressed with her courage and conviction she had quite a story with skin had an her former life. and. i know the incident where his name on the story trying to make this information i have another story and my mom and and you know the stories you heard today that we and you are going to hear today i'm telling you i'm going to tell you where and

why and i'm going to. see him. actually fall and i might have my leg my arms out one of our first student awareness day she had an experience which was amazing when she pulled up her sleeves and shared their tattoos with everyone is that these will never be removed these will stay with me forever this is what i wish i could take them off because of what they represent and i have to look at them every single day. in the audience that day happened to be a daughter of a holocaust survivor whose husband happened to be a dermatologist and. that is marijuana my mistakes and. learn more. the southern poverty law center was formed in one thousand nine hundred seventy one

by two more years from montgomery joe levin and morris dees it began as a very small kind of storefront nonprofit agency and it was really about things like discrimination and voter dilution such lee social justice issues especially in the south. the center became probably most famous in the early eighty's for bringing a particular type of lawsuit there often called vicarious liability lawsuits against take groups gets white supremacist groups chiefly and that really was a completely novel approach and never been done before trying to hold the leaders of hate groups responsible for the criminal actions their members. probably the most famous single so that was the soup brought in early the knurling one nine hundred eighty s. portland or i'm against tom metzger the lawsuit was brought against me because morris dees and a.d.l. saw that we were making great headway i mean we're appearing on all the big t.v.

shows and i was running for office and winning elections and stuff like that me said what are we going to do about this guy lived in southern california and his white hair and resistance group war was based in southern california but he and his son had very strongly encouraged skinheads in portland oregon to quote unquote take back their community and they had produced all kinds of literature showing what they meant by that. very shortly after metzger sent a representative up there to portland to talk to some of the skinhead groups several people in fact murdered meet the opium graduate student the accusation brought against as were totally baseless really because we didn't have any members or any cards or anything and we had no agents. you know i could get a decent jury. so all they won the case and i never advocated killing any black person i think that that case was very important it essentially you know

destroyed matt starr and his attempts to create really a unified group that would have undoubtedly spread you know if i would submit among the rest of us that kind of put the southern poverty law center on the map it made the place very well known and it took me ten twelve million they said press always used to ask me what did you do i said well you know i wrote him a check what do you think. the intelligence report became and in one thousand nine hundred one there seemed to be a resurgence of the klan at that time this is sort of the era of david duke and there was a lot of concern among law enforcement s.p.l. c. decided to put out a small newsletter that was really aimed specifically at police officers that's kind of keep them up on what's gone on what klan groups were active and so on and that is ultimately would go into you know what now is a big serious seventy plus page mixing it's all about monitoring these groups of

publishing high quality investigative information a measure of how effective the center seems to really be today is how very hated it is by actual right wing extremists and one nine hundred eighty three when the southern poverty law center was still very small a little storefront office one night about four in the morning three klansmen literally crawled up out of the sewers they protest the back of the office by coming up through the sewers broke into the office sprayed kerosene and gasoline around and far bombed in. the office was almost entirely destroyed but the irony was that put the southern poverty law center sort of into the new york times and into the nation's consciousness in a way that really hadn't been. people like my parents heard about it and said my god you know there's this you know white lawyer in alabama who seems to really be doing something about the clam and you know we're doing so much in fact that trying

to kill the guy. there have been just a series of attempts to blow up the center to assassinate its co-founder morris dees to kill other people here like myself i often kind of joke that you know it's not the right wing extremists who live in armed compounds it's us we live in a very heavily fortified building we have security twenty four hours a day three hundred sixty five days here sadly enough that's just the cost of doing business. the internet has become a bonanza not only for that but for us as well because it's not really a window i want to this world and you know you're not going to find people on the internet plotting to blow up a federal building up but you may come to understand what the dynamics are of a struggle between two groups for leadership or an ideological discussion about you know is it more important to kill the jews first or should we go after you know of a sexual zur plaques and there are all kinds of things that you learn that really

do help you understand that for a typical hate group the availability of the internet is a boon people who are tied together not by physical presence but through the internet they are able to troll for new members target the next generation of young people raise money meet in a virtual environment all at a very very low cost. and for those of us who are in the fight against bigotry and extremism and terrorism the internet represents a challenge which we to try to use. a lone wolf is i think without question the most dangerous kind of attacker you can face because you know if it's a group or a subgroup within say the area nations that is plotting some kind of attack or series of bank robberies or whatever it may be there are enough people involved

that more often than not if not in affably word of these plots gets out you know when it's a lone wolf operating as long separates and keeps their mouth shut you know you have absolutely no way of preventing the attack or knowing it's coming. the wolf is a self-contained. all animal but each one is strongly individualists. and that's what i'll i advocate longwall has a. i think the clay was very smart. i don't wire and coke at the rog but he was the good soldier i mean he made a decision about what he thought needed to be done. grab the federal government by the throat make a pay for waco and so on and he went out there and it. it was

a transformative moment i think that after oklahoma city it no longer really mattered who you attacked it's just a matter of the kind of results you got and in fact i think it's clear that one hundred sixty eight deaths became sort of the minimum right if you want to really to a big thing you got to get at least a hundred sixty nine got to add to mcveigh and you know for people who may think that sounds crazy let me just say that after mcveigh there were a number of plots directed against various institutions the federal government and so on from the radical right to contemplate the deaths of thousands and thousands and thousands of people to me there's no extreme or not extreme or simply expediency of what. we have a lone wolf feels must be done. i don't refer to terrorism in all this nothing but unconventional warfare. but very accurately.

saw the picture when he was over in the middle east he came home and he saw what the government and the. people who run the government are doing and how they killed the people in waco how they killed the people at ruby ridge and at a military man he decided as a general of one to let the government know he didn't like it they didn't even pay attention to the growth of this right wing always did its good ol boys no problem and then you know oklahoma city bombing. was totally beneath their radar they did send a message but they didn't get the message they may behind the scenes admit the message . but the public didn't get the message it was simply he was a horrible guy who blew up all these people well that happens and warm. right after the oklahoma city bombing in one thousand nine hundred five the f.b.i.

in fact hired about five hundred new agents and they were largely tasked it's mastic terrorism the american radical right and there were a lot of people arrested and rightly arrested as a result this wasn't some railroading into prison of a bunch people who merely had noxious ideas these were people who were involved in criminal plots but since nine eleven we've become concerned that the federal government really to start seem to be paying much attention at least high political levels and we've tried very hard to kind of remind law enforcement officials not that al qaeda hasn't thought important obviously it's a threat and a serious threat but boy we have to remember there's a very serious movement here in the united states and it produced a lot of. sort of the johnny appleseed of the racist movement i plant my seeds in. many of them now become pretty good trees they're out there and the most important people

that i have influenced nobody knows. i don't even know. so i can't tell a good pull my finger nails i can't tell. my personal views came from my own personal self education whether it's reading or observation of racial groups it was until i entered the army at the age of eighteen that i began to see racial differences strongly because i was thrust into mixed race situation with blacks from south chicago it was culture shock and i observed them and i don't want to be like that so it was an evolution my education. you know they always ask me did a black steal your bicycle or some no i have never had a black person beat on me or steal anything from anything like that i observed

through our observation of the way people live the culture the general race and then i form a conclusion. the reason i ran for congress was the illegal alien problem i want a democratic nomination what set the bells and buzzers ring and all over the country but then the whole democratic party disavowed me. then i tried to go to the state central committee meeting in sacramento they barred me at the door and so i turned away from politics and i said there's no way we're going to accomplish what we want to accomplish simply by politics it's a fixed game right down to whether they tinker with the voting machines. developed wore white american resistance.

white airing resistance had tried very hard in the early one nine hundred eighty s. to kind of gather skinheads together into a kind of army you know as tom metzger used to say the skinheads would be the shock troops of the revolution and at that time in the early eighty's there really were a lot of neo nazi skinheads in the united states and it was a growing movement but you know now these days this is a movement that has come to realize that it's very short of leaders that it really needs to create a kind of new leadership pádraig. to lead the revolution tomorrow well they also understand that skinheads and people who like to spend their time essentially breaking beer bottles over other people's heads are not going to be those leaders.

twenty years ago i told the skinheads i said look you better let your hair grow get into college get a good education get into the military get into the police get in any place where you can go up and have power standing around on a street corner in uniforms waving flags and arguing with idiots is not going to get you anywhere so a lot of them took my advice and i told them to keep totally covert totally. don't tell people your beliefs never try to recruit on a job don't a danger to your career and sensually operate like you're behind enemy lines what goes on in the right wing racial movement is it just keeps going around and around they just keep doing the same thing all the time and the leaders are either not intelligent enough to see that they're not thinking out of the box or they find it comfortable to do this we'll have

a rally we'll sell lots of beer will ron ron will see hieland will wear uniforms and will damage a news and down the black to them everything but very little damning the whites. they are the key to our problem our own right. as far as the other so-called organizations are where the real violence would break out. they could be very useful as soldiers. there's this very acute consciousness on the part of the radical right that we need to reach the smart college bound middle class upper middle class white kid before that kid gets to college where they will be inevitably brainwashed into the you know terrible paths of the multiculturalism and so on. when i was at the end of my involvement there was one source of literature a flyer that has made me think for all the years to follow and that was of

a skinhead who was almost ten to skies he had a wig on and a uniform like he was a government worker and it was basically showing a message of we don't mean to be so outspoken we can keep our beliefs to ourselves and kind of get in the places where he went next back them to be. it's impossible for me to operate goldberg only because everybody knows me so i'm the above ground symbol that people can look to. the insurgent is a voluntary association independent white people working for the common good. and survival of the white race and insurgency is a resistance to the one world government idea the white race poses the

greatest threat to the white race we can only blame ourselves. we have not kept our own house in order. i despise this government. washing i think your description. but they're all hooked together through this octopus of the transactional corporations business people and political people who are working for a one world plantation damaging the demographic distribution of people around the world because of their incessant greed factor. and i see the heads in the c.e.o.'s of these transnational corporations to be our ultimate enemy they have the power now but they're losing their grip they're gradually losing their grip the empire is broke. and it's gradually going to self-destruct. we want to go back to tribalism other words they want to go

bigger we want to go smaller i think the only thing it can do that is a rising of the working class because any racial war starts with economics and then it turns racial. then whatever violence needs to be perpetrated intelligent violence then i would advocate. the racial hostility is out there and these groups represents the tip of the iceberg and it's much deeper than involves a lot of the power structure and power from one time. traces of these american as apple pie. areas and get higher. rates there just try an area people stop at. no plot. i'd like to be able to say that something as monstrous as the oklahoma city bombing is

that possible but i really believe that it's possible as long as we have hate crimes and as long as we have scant hads and as long as we have people that. think they're better. i don't think we'll ever have a world where we don't have races i think that's a fairly easy predictions make. that sad the world learned at least partly learned a very big lesson out of the second world war which is you know where this is really all lead in the end establishments that's that's the end point of all these kinds of feelings one of the worst things that might happen in america were people to feel the hatred and bigotry and hate organizations and streams go to the solutions are irrelevant to our future but there are other i'm told that there's no need to pay attention to if that should happen we risk our future as a nation of dollars are people who train yourself. get educated to babble is.

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