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nuclear program is that it has mexico. right now into the show spotlight and today's guest is gary but what's in a rush i might say with a magic touch that can seemingly breathe life into any object that he's talking to host right next. close-up game has been to the our hang me. for the first russian fleet was born. goes to the area which holds top position in oil and gas resources to cover the biggest russian salmon caviar processing factories located. and where unique species of farm fauna can be found. should close

up. and welcome to the. studio is. talking about something that brings a smile to everyone's face. is a russian. who can. object how does he do that and why his old fashioned puppets instead of three. would be talking about this. one of the most accomplished russian masters of. started his career as an actor after the moscow theater hired him as a director. has grabbed gary's attention he soon moved to the main soviet

contused to you to become a director and animator. where he discovered his talent. had too many missions many of which have received awards in russia and abroad he now runs his own studio and says it allows him to be free up in his fantasies and stranger. it may seem but gary still sticks with good old puppets and plasticity rather than high tech animation. hello mr borden thank you for coming to our program. first i would like to ask you about your cartoon technique when he was told to use the traditional technique of hand drawing to make cartoons so it's not what you meant classical animated cartoons similar to disney films pushtuns has ever think and that's why it is you give up a traditional technique at some stage and switch over to unconventional trains like

that matches nails in clay. the thing is that i started with classical animation as you said but then i invented the technique i used in the conflict my film about matches in when i understood that i had invented that even in this right here as i realize that i wouldn't trust it to anybody in that i should do it myself and when i did it myself with my phone stop motion much more interesting than just drawing cartoons over so the thing is that disperses of making a hand drawn carts units long and involved in many people and steamships therefore it's hard for me to control the entire process but in stop motion there are only three people involved a camera magically a cartoonist and i that's all of course the technique has changed still in studios produce more cartoons these days is that i remember when my sister and i were small kids who strongly preferred hand drawing cartoons motion called shoes were more for adults children of my generation it was washed only drawn called susan of course

will disney cartoons were the best is the situation different now. i think so because it changed it you know i don't claim that it was good but i helped change it should be a special wonderful stop motion cartoon so like. in the middle could you tell us more about can you explain what chevron. never looks nice on paper. but is because he's a three d. character at this is amazing isn't it to be in he requires a three d. presentation as was initially designed the feeling was it's impossible to drop ship because it looks ugly yes he's flat as his flat an ugly finish the thing is when children watched a good stop motion film they thought it was hand drawn that is children's perception of a cartoon anyway even though our viewers may dislike this to can you conditionally that we need to cross this bridge and make them like it if we succeed in making

them interested we consider that to be our victory because it may be wrong but i think that the soviet union and russia with claire news of unconventional animation like claymation and so on that was to leave it there are no many countries ever to lex paramount had that would stop motion for example there was a man by the name of quark in bristol in the u.k. can we put on was a because nobody could make less a go chorus is better than disney. no that's thought actually never answered my mind you're the first person to whom it occurred right now because it's a polaroid which only why do i think that crazy a favorite material is in its. clays one of my favorite materials because i also work with the wire and it matches and then i had a cartoon called the banquet where we have a table with a real fork snipes and wine glasses moving around without human characters i've tried various techniques but place closer to hand drawn animation that it's easy to work with it's easy to produce on the usual and brisk movements that's why i prefer

clay to shoot it because it's it is there is someone in russian or foreign animation film you consider to be your teacher your guru. in which because not in any mation but to me there are three giants charlie chaplin federico fellini and well disney could something like that warship. them but to me they're the best get me out sell me something well i'm not surprised you have mentioned disney they have them with it's hard to find a cartoonist who wouldn't mention disney he's the way surprisingly only disney didn't drool didn't make films they didn't read music for his cartoons inserts he was a businessman he no he could draw in addition to other things he was a cartoonist no he could draw but he didn't draw his own cartoons you know but he was brainy one actually he was a producer yes she was a producer but also he was a very smart person with a director has to be smart but he was smart and he knew so much about people that

he could portray any person the way he did the bench after disney busch claymation became different good but it's different. so you think what will disney studios have been producing since disney's death is not as good studios by the way what was the last concert introduced by disney. busted i don't remember which one was the last but i can see that the lion king there must have been after his death. of course he had long been dead by that time the lion king is somewhat reminiscent of bambi here's. the long straight he schools or to what these new d.d. then there are other cartoons i don't think the lion king is anywhere near a band they know and king is vulgar whereas. that's what you say. all right. let's talk about something else. in the soviet times runs freedom was

considered practically nonexistent. but if you need new experiments with a lot of animation. in the present there of market relations that in the everything is considered from the standpoint of money if the bill was to you think it would be possible to work the same way today for your. i don't know what the look up at the this is a tough question there were for sure we're doing today there is no censorship on the one hand but on the other hand there is no money what the place of. both director and producer i have to consider these things you know in the past we said we need films but i'm sure today we make a product but a book with the products you need to make them attractive to people but i try not to think about it but that was just what i tried to do the same thing i did in the soviet period things that i care about and that hopefully viewers carry. however in

my elitist project. duckling i try to combine incompatible things as a tour zero it's both commercial success and artistic values you who go to what the there's an interesting thing i'd like to talk about is said that no mass holds you know trying to work the way you like like wish that doesn't mean that there's a certain financial independence that you enjoy in that frees you from worrying about the commercial success of what you did you know i don't have such financial independence. woolies even during new soviet period really valued in the cheeriest my ear freedoms went on this idea that you should rule freedom from what's from viewers from the interests and preferences seem to say i don't care i do what i want you don't have to watch if you don't want to and i don't wish to know these are your words not mine. actually i'm just asking you don't want to if you don't want to is not you know measured at their shoes you know it's not like consider my

viewers yep i want it but my inner freedom means that i make films about things that are important to me i don't care about fashion fashion means nothing to me from my work on things that i care about. you know trained as an actor if you're an actor as in the right place and i am. helpful is it so much of an actor or you today look at the state of course i'm still in that circle but do you play oh characters so you have to play yes i play for each of my characters tricycle so these are all the rules and you play the number of i would have never played these many roles in the theater which the ugly duckling alone has more than four hundred characters you know i play them all cut that will come when i set tasks for any meters. those roles with accuracy up to each music and persists or should they all have to be after the according to the task i would have been knocked or did i did so you want to be one you know i became want to know i mean the real one slit your

own face out there did work out for you what happened. i worked at a theater for four years so you did play in the theater i did and i played in the future and i did all kinds so for other things but later i realized that there was something inside me that i hadn't been aware of and i had to express it i had to try writing and. you don't regret it you never became a hero any cooling or a denny de vito do you not for a moment have fun maher thing you know i enjoy my work at work and when i feel that i really belong here says agag that was one of the most titled. russian animated. spotlight to move out shortly the right to break stay with us we'll continue this interview less than a minute and a half. this

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welcome back to spotlight. just a reminder that my guest today is. one of the most renowned russian animated cartoon makers at this point in the what. let's finish the subject of you take makes another that's probably had like says kid about the music called soon as he has all sorts of music that seems to me that music is always very important i read somewhere that you were listening to music all the time. with that do you always work like that and does not use it for you personally. you know i had a cartoon i made with the wire received a. ton. no music at all but generally music even more than animation so when i'm working on the duckling for example the reason. the duckling turns into

a swan beauty swan the closeups one means that swan lake you know was a swan lake. began. looking for what he had to offer to fit in with that story i found several themes from the nutcracker tree then emeril and composers have vanished in your arranged a musical. performance of your session he agreed on condition that i don't do stuart tchaikovsky score so i told you my love take kolsky as much as he did but your libretto comes straight from understands book right that there are no notes that was that the only thing left from understand is the duckling turning into a swan that's all the rest is mine. so you did change the libretto actually did him in music and in all of the music yes to the libretto but you can change it as much as your life and i did without any hesitation and how much does it do it all himself. and in told her anything she steps solos purely

a classical rendering general knowledge was an arranged tchaikovsky we had twenty seven numbers twenty five were arranged things so wildly to less to ones more original tchaikovsky scores it was in the impression you get is that here wrote those pieces specifically for me and this is what i saw as the orchestra recorded music it was a brilliant job keeping to the music healy team wrote the lyrics and these were performed by some of the best actors like constantine ragnar mentor good. svetlana step chin cut. himself who did the porn of the. let's hear more now from spotlights he and they did me the. cut too and instead of a concert in moscow house music has decided on an unusual opening to its new season the ugly duckling is not just any cartoon the soundtrack is cheap one like and not correct that recorded by the national feel are more nick ocus truck because they

were recorded the music for the cartoon i conducted the orchestra which is my usual job. it was gary barnes the director of the conduct of the process. he knew exactly each word in each movement of his characters from the very beginning until a very end so i just had. the full length cut to music stop go and imation in russia this kind of animation has always been considered more sophisticated with the dominance of computer technologies on screen hand made characters appear to possess specialist. for kilos of clay and feathers were turned into the four hundred characters of the fairy tale it took gary hart in the director six years to make them talk and walk finally it's down to his to say if the magical then a nation works for them and if clay characters are able to compete with computed

contracts. because it's ok let's talk about your latest work what. took you six years and interest and. in one of your recent interviews. you said that the cartoon. was turned extend your response to the growth of xenophobia for would be in a strain if you said you wanted to show that any person can turn out to be totally different from what they initially seem to be. six years ago you already wanted to speak out against those things this problem existed six years ago you were an eight or nine years ago i made a cartoon called at the janet interest of same issue it's a ten minute film. music when the work was over i realize that high haven't covered this subject sufficiently when there is more to be said on the sure my son who's a fictional film director developed a subject in his film russia eighty eight it's also bugs in

a fog and so i thought that in this country where naziism is tolerated where skinheads can march in the streets and people think. no but i must talk about these things to children and current ups alike so they never despise a person because they are different to you or your work i hate it when people scorn immigrants this must be happening in russia. this means you're not a free person to say you're free and yet you're sending this rather serious social and political message. so that i'm not free from society but i'm free to express my views the way i see things it's where you should open your mouth you showed your film it looked her no no it was a success for usually are you happy what was it rayless success did you expect anything else. well i'm looking forward to being shown in russia of course but judging by locarno reactions to the world premiere of that we had i wasn't accepted

by the critics remarkably well let me be motorist and see that it was accepted remarkably well when you need it in another confirmation is the fact that the foam has been invited by around thirty world film festivals you don't like film festivals it seems to me you're easily offended you or do you think so not at all which they did with said make if they do something you don't like you don't talk to them anymore yes that's true and that's normal normal but why that but you know if it was the last show what i've said is that you know they sure are anything else you know it's my knee injury you're the same i'm sure you don't visit a house where you're not welcome you know that sold out their other houses or used other festivals that may dislike an artist of your caliber there are many directors that are highly unpleasant people as a role they're not very good natured people well i don't want to go into detail there are people of this kind so why rule it out for myself. holroyd souls that you said not so long ago that the ugly duckling could have only been made in russia.

but i do think still. well you know for example i travel to to switzerland. simply you know i was thinking why we know russia had so much of a loss to feel switzerland has much less solid people over there are simply living source people over here are in agony and ask themselves why are we that way and then philosophy springs up but in principle i wouldn't have done it over the years because they're kind of living his weary quiet and that's their way generally. let's let me give you some statistics regarding you but let's listen said there were four hundred plus characterise seizures was more to mentally frame after frame have had that are one hundred and seven thousand frames in the film the sensations of screen time in three days of filmmakers will process took six years why do you have so unwilling to use computer technology after all even in your technique you

can use computers to finish the frame carve the leap you don't have to work on the menu it would be the same thing sure some live with no no it wouldn't the difference is that he'll sit in material culture and its me because that and i like it i like it because i trust what i see on the screen when it's a real stuff but if it's orange has to be a real wire and if it's a mood in has to be real mood as a viewer i trust real things more than something immediate to look like aren't or would what do you how would the computer reason. i don't have anything against it if one day i feel i want to use the computer all do so not because someone expects me to but because i wanted myself let me ask you one more question. well i think i know the answer but i don't know if you're willing to give a frank answer what's it to do here three d. call citizens seven times take a breath taking creative and of course children are crazy about them what's your

attitude to that she meets want to commit to action museum in cork at least for now demo day when you go against it and you. know i'm not against it in but i value. cinema for all other things for instance when i watch the closing scene off studio lights where the formally a blonde girl in the us the troops charlie chaplin's hands in the recognizer scene and he has a flower between his teeth and he's smiling it's a black and white movie but i wait much more it's a corona holiday for example he again it's a black and white not always she's leaving any closing scene. no special glasses no three d. just great cinema pure and simple and it makes your heart beat or two bucks or so for me it's so foreign museum and if it's on to the person who comes in does this tour that will make your soul sore is just wonderful with me but it was so foreign

to technological thing simple tools and nothing more spicy about space and i'm not sure thank you very much for being with us and just a reminder that my guest today was gary barlow one of the most titled russian animated cartoon makers and that's it for now from all of us here if you don't have your sales spotlight or have someone who lied to you think i shouldn't tell you next i'm at spotlight will be back with offers that comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay an hour to take it. back.

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