this is also you coming here live for most of the headlines. the russians so you space crawl on successfully adults from space station with really only making their way about to attempt a day ago was halted by a false alarm problems with two russian cosmonauts under an american astronaut is due to london come let's start in iraq three and a whole hours time. reports of sounds of cia trained i've been to some since operating in pakistan and raise concerns over what's to happen after the you ask who was on the region and what control they leave feeling full scale

leading to. a war of words between the american and the iranian president's up to do the job tells the grand jury are some great most people in the world believe the united states was behind the nine eleven times despite being around the ring the president says his country is open to negotiations on its nuclear program as a city as the next not. just a few moments out into spotlight on today's guest is gary bowden a russian of the age so would the magic touch who can similarly breathe life into any object he's talking to host right next you know.

are. going to come back. we'll have a rally will sell lots of beer will. they will wear uniforms that will damage is down the black man moving but very little damming the white. and they are the key to our problem our own right. and welcome to spotlight the. guest in the studio is. talking about something that brings a smile to everyone's face cartoons. is

a russian animator a man who can breathe life into objects how does he do that and why his old fashioned puppets instead of three d. animation would be talking about this morning. one of the most accomplished russian mobsters of petunia mation gallery bargain started his career as an actor after the most who puppet theater hired him as a director of the little moving camera to his galleries attention is soon moved to the main soviet could choose to you to become a director and. the best way. discovered his talent has made over a dozen of petunia nations many of which have received awards in russia and abroad and now runs his own car to studio and says it allows him to be free up in his fantasies and strange it may seem but gary's still sticks with good old puppets and plasticity rather than high tech animation.

hello mr borden thank you for coming to our program. first i would like to ask you about your cartoon technique when he was told to use the traditional technique of hand drawing to make cartoons so it's not what you meant classical animated cartoons similar to disney films pushtuns was ever think that whereas your gave up a traditional technique at some stage and switch over to unconventional trains like that matches nails and clay. the thing is that i started with classical animation as you said but then i invented it took me a used in the conflict my film about matches and when i understood that i had invented that even in this right here as i realize that i wouldn't trust it to anybody in that i should do it myself and when i did it myself with my phone stop motion much more interesting than just drawing cartoons. this thing is that

disperses of making a hand drawn cartoons long involved in many people and steamships therefore it's hard for me to control the process but in stop motion there are only three people involved a camera magically a cartoonist and i that's all of course the technique has changed still in studios produce more cartoons these days that i remember when my sister and i were smoking strongly preferred hand drawn cartoons motion cultures were more for adults the formula children of my generation was washed only drawn called susan of course will disney cartoons were the best is the situation different now. i think so it doesn't change that view. no i don't claim audited but i have to change it should be a special wonderful stop motion cartoon. in the middle could you tell us more about can you explain what she never looks nice on paper. but is because he's a three d.

character at this is amazing isn't it to be an he requires a three d. presentation as was initially designed the feeling was it's impossible to drop ship because it looks ugly yes he's flat as his flat an ugly finish the thing is when children watched a good stop motion film they thought it was hand drawn there is children's perception of a cartoon anyway even though our viewers may dislike this to can you can issue that we need to cross this bridge and make them like it if we succeed in making them interested we consider that to be our victory because it may be wrong but i think that the soviet union and russia with claire knew years of unconventional animation like claymation and so on that was to leave it there were no many countries out to lex paramount it would stop motion for example there was a man by the name of. in bristol in the u.k. who put the word was a because nobody could make less a go chorus is better than disney. no that's thought it actually never answered my

mind you're the first person to whom it occurred right now because it's a polaroid which only why do i think that crazy a favorite material is in its. clays one of my favorite materials because i also work with the wire and it matches and then i had a cartoon called the banquet where we have a table with a real fork snipes and wine glasses moving around without human characters i've tried various techniques but place closer to hand drawn animation that's easy to work with it's easy to produce on the usual and brisk movements that's why i prefer clay to shoot it because it's it is there is someone in russian or foreign and. mation you consider to be your teacher your guru. when you watch because not in any mation but to me there are three giants charlie chaplin federico fellini and won't make up in something like i worship them but to me they're the best give me us well

i'm not surprised you have mentioned disney and yet they have them which is hard to find a cartoonist who wouldn't mention disney by the way surprisingly disney didn't drool that didn't make films they didn't read music for his cartoons inserts he was a businessman he no he could draw in addition to other things he was a cartoonist you know he could draw but he didn't draw his own cartoons you know but he was brainy when actually he was a producer yes he was a producer but also he was a very smart person with a director has to be smart or to me was smart and he knew so much about people that he could portray any person the way he did the bench after disney animation became the different kinds good but it's different. so you think what will disney studios have been producing since disney's death is not as good studio by the way what was the last concert introduced by disney. i don't remember which one was the last but i can see that the lion king there must have been after his death. of

course he had long been dead by the time the lion king is somewhat reminiscent of bambi here's. the long history of the schools or to what you did then there are other cartoons you know i don't think the lion king is anywhere near them they know and king is vulgar whereas many diverse well that's what you say. oh right. let's talk about something else. in the soviet times runs freedom was considered practically nonexistent. but even in new experiments with a lot of animation. in the present there of market relations that in the once everything is considered from the standpoint of money if the bill was to you think it would be possible to work the same way today for your. i don't know what that the upper looked up at the this is a tough question there were for sure we're doing today there is no censorship on

the one hand but on the other hand there is no money but that perhaps they saw. both director and producer i have to consider these things at the you know in the past we said we need films but i'm sure today we make a product but a book with products you need to make them attractive to people but i try not to think about it but that was just i tried to do the same thing i did in the soviet period things that i care about and that hopefully viewers carry. however in my elitist project. duckling trying to combine incompatible things as a tour zero it's both commercial success and artistic values you who go to there's an interesting thing i'd like to talk about what is said that no man's faults you know trying to work the way you like like wish that doesn't mean that there's a certain financial independence that you enjoy in that frees you from worrying

about the commercial success of what you did. which you know i don't have such financial independence. even during the soviet period really valued in the cheeriest my ear freedoms went on this idea that you should rule freedom from what's from viewers from the interests and preferences seem to say i don't care i do what i want you don't have to watch if you don't want to and i don't wish to know these are your words not mine you know they just go yes press right actually i'm just asking you if you don't want to is not you know measured at their shoes you know it's not like consider my viewers yep and what it. means that. is about things that are important to me i don't care about fashion injuries fashion means nothing to me from my work on things that i care about. you know training as an actor if you're an actor as an all right i think i am. how hopeful is it so much of an actor or you today look at the state of course i'm still an actor to you play your characters so you have to play yes i play for each of my

characters tricycle so these are all the rules and you play the number of the i would have never played these many roles in the theater the ugly duckling alone has more than four hundred characters you know i play them all up that will come when i set tasks for any meters. those roles with accuracy up to each music and persists or should they all have to be acted according to the task i would do just so that to be in oxford and i did so you want to be one and i became want to know i mean the real one for your own face out there did work out for you or what happened. i worked at a theater for four years or so you did play in a theater i did i played in the future and i did all kinds of father things but later i realized that there was something inside me that i hadn't been aware of and i had to express it i had to try writing and. you don't regret it you never became

a hero in the cooling or a denny de vito do you not for a moment have fun maher thing and i enjoy my war over what i feel that i really belong here says agag that was one of the most titled. russian animated to make like the movie back shortly there right after a break stay with us we'll continue this interview less than a minute and go. this

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welcome back to spotlight i'll do you know of and just to remind you that my guest in the studio today is gary biden who is one of the most renowned russian animated cartoon makers at this point but what the mr bardhan let's finish this subject of you take makes another that's probably had like says kid about the music that they're called soon as he has all sorts of music but it seems to me that music is always very important to you i read somewhere that you were listening to music all the times you were working on the window saying with that do you always work like that oh important does not use it for you personally. you know i had a cartoon i made with wire bill he received a poem during con ed no music at all but generally i like music even more than animation so when i'm working on the ugly duckling for example the reason this way the duckling turns into a swan beauty swan at the close ups one means that swan lake didn't it was

a really cool swan lake means to. us i began looking for what he had to offer to fit in with that story which i found several themes from the not crack purchase then emeril in composers have vanished in your range to music you know i ask people to perform it as a procession he agreed on condition that i don't do stuart tchaikovsky score so i told you my love take kolsky as much as he did but you libretto come straight from understands book right that there are no notes that was the only thing left from understand is the duckling turning into a swan that's all the rest is mine. so you did. change the troll will get him in music in all of the music the rest of the libretto but you can change it as much as your life and i did without any hesitation and how much does do it all himself. and in tolls for anything since this all is purely a classical rendering know it was an arranged tchaikovsky we had twenty seven

numbers twenty five were arranged things while the two last ones were original tchaikovsky scores and it was in the impression you get is that here at those pieces specifically for me and this is what i saw as the orchestra recorded music it was a brilliant job keeping to the music healy team wrote the lyrics and these were performed by some of the best actors like constantine reich in our mentor good. svetlana step chin cut. himself who did the porn all the. let's hear more now from spotlights he and they did me the. cut tune instead of a concert in moscow house of music has decided on an unusual open into its new season the ugly duckling is not just any cartoon the soundtrack is cheap one like and not correct recorded by the national feel are more nicole construct because they were recorded the music for the cartoon i conduct of the orchestra which is my

usual job but when i dubbed the animal rooster it was garry barden the director of the film who conducted the whole process. he knew exactly each word in each movement of his characters from the very beginning until a very end so i just had. the full length cartoon uses stop go and imation in russia this kind of animation has always been considered more sophisticated with the dominance of computer technologies on screen hand made characters appear to possess special interest. for kilos of clay and feathers were turned into the four hundred characters of the fairy tale it took gary pardon the director six years to make them talk and walk finally it's down to audiences to say if the magical then a nation works for them and if clay characters are able to compete with computed contra fox. scores it's ok let's talk about your latest

what. took you six years and interest and. in one of your recent interviews. you said that the cartoon. was to extend your response to the growth of xenophobia . is said you wanted to show that any person can turn out to be totally different from what they initially seem to be. six years ago you already wanted to speak out against those things that this problem existed six years ago are you an eight or nine years ago i made a cartoon called it the janet in dress to same issue it's a term in the film. music but when the work was over i realize that high haven't covered this subject sufficiently when there is more to be said on the sure my son who is a fictional film director developed the subject in his film russia eighty eight it's also about xena fall being your profession so i thought that in this country

where naziism is tolerated where skinheads can march in the streets and people think could. no but i must talk about these things to children and curling up so like so they never despise a person because they are different i hate it when people scorn immigrants this must be happening in russia. this means you're not a free person to say you're free and you're ascending this rather serious social and political message. so that i'm not free from society but i'm free to express my views the way i see things it's where we should. you showed your film it look or know that i know it was a success are usually used to show you have was it realistic says straight anything else. well i'm looking forward to being shown in russia of course judging by locarno reactions to the world premiere that we had as i wasn't accepted by the

critics remarkably well let me be modus to see that it was accepted remarkably well when you need it in another confirmation is the fact that the foam has been invited by run through the world film festivals really don't like film festivals it seems to me you're easily offended do you think so not at all which they did with said make if they do something you don't like you don't talk to them anymore yes that's true and that's normal normal but why that but you know if i was there i don't know what i've said is that you know they sure are anything else you have to know it's my knee into your the same i'm sure you don't visit a house where you're not to welcome you but that's out there other houses are used that other festivals that my dislike of not just of your caliber if there are many directors that are highly unpleasant people there is a role there are not very good natured people don't want to go into detail there are people of this kind so why rule it out for myself. holroyd souls that you said not so long ago that the ugly duckling could have only been made in russia. but why

do you think so. well you know for example i travel to to switzerland. simply and i was thinking why we know russia hates so much of the last to feel switzerland has much less of it people over there are simply living true source people over here are in agony and ask themselves why are we that way and then philosophy springs up but in principle i wouldn't have done it over the years because they're kind of living is weary quiet and that's their way generally. let's let me give you some statistics regarding your home that's said there were four hundred plus characterise seashores more to mentally freemantle frame have had their one hundred seven thousand frames in the. sensations of screen time in three days of filmmakers they'll process took six years why do you have so unwilling to use computer technology after all even in your technique you can use computers to finish the frame cards the leap you don't have to work on the menu it will be the same thing

sure some live with no no it wouldn't have the differences that it's in when tiriel culture and its me question it and i like it yet that i like it because all my traumas to what i see on the screen when it's a real stop are and has to be a real irony if it's a mood in has to be a real buddhist as a viewer i trust real things more than something immediate to look like are nor would they even what do you how would the computer reason. i don't have anything in peace treaty for one day i feel i want to use the computer all do so not because someone expects me to but because i wanted myself let me ask you one more question . well i think i know the answer but i don't know if you're willing to give a frank answer what's it to do here three d. call tunes seven times take a breath taking creative and of course children are crazy about them what's your attitude to that she meets what can attract museum uncork at least for now demo day

when you go against it and you think you know i'm not against him but i value. cinema for all other things for instance when i watch the closing scene off studio lights were the formally of a blonde girl in the us the troops charlie chaplin's hands can recognize a scene and he has a flower between his teeth and he's smiling it's a black and white movie but i will eat much more it's a corona holiday for example he again it's a black and white not always she's leaving any closing scene by a week no special glasses no three d. just great cinema pure and simple and it makes your heart beat or two bucks or so for me it's so foreign museum and if you tell it to the person it comes and does a story that will make your soul soar it is just wonderful with me but it was so foreign got to go thing simple tools and nothing more explicit about space and i'm

not sure thank you very much for being with us and just to remind you that my guest today was gary barlow one of the most titled russian animated cartoon makers and that's it for now from all of us here if you don't have your sales spotlight or have someone who lied to you think i shouldn't tell you next time just drop the spotlight will be back with offers that comments on what's going on in and outside of russia until then stay an hour to take a. lol

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