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studio is. talking about something. everyone. objects how does he do that. one of the most. career as an actor after the. attention. to the main. to become a director and. he discovered his talent. in russia. says it allows him to be free.

and strange it may seem. high tech animation. thank you for coming to our program. traditional. so it's not what you meant classical animated cartoons that are similar to disney films pushtuns everything and that's why it is you give up the traditional technique at some stage and switch over to unconventional trains like that matches nails and clay. the thing is that i started with classical animation as you said but then i invented it took me a used in the conflict my film about matches in when i understood that i had invented that even in this right here as i realize that i wouldn't trust it to

anybody in that i should do it myself and when i did it myself with my phone stop motion much more interesting than just drawing cartoons over to the thing is that making a hand drawn carts units long and involved in many people and steamships therefore it's hard for me to control the entire process but in stop motion and there are only three people involved the camera mantra the cartoonist and i that's all of course the technique has changed tone studios produce more cartoons these days but i remember when my sister and i were smoking strongly preferred hand drawn closer to the soaps motion cultures were more for adults the poor children of my generation it was washed only drawn called susan of course will disney cartoons were the best is the situation different now. i think so because it changed it you know i don't claim that it was good but i had to change it special wonderful stop motion cartoon. in the middle because it tells more

about can you explain what never looks nice on paper. but is because he's a three d. character at this is amazing isn't it to be in he requires a three d. presentation as was initially designed the feeling was it's impossible to draw because it looks ugly yes he's flat his flat an ugly finish the thing is when children watched a good stop motion film they thought it was. drawn there is children's perception of a cartoon anyway even though our viewers may dislike this to can you can issue that we need to cross this bridge and make them like it if we succeed in making them interested we consider that to be arbitrary. i may be wrong but i think that the soviet union and russia where news of unconventional animation for claymation and so on was to leave it there are no many countries have to experiment that would stop motion for example there was a man by the name of park in bristol in the u.k.

he was put on was a because nobody could make less ago courses better than disney. you know that's thought it actually never answered my mind you're the first person to whom it occurred right now because it's a polaroid which only why do i think the crazier favorite material is in its. clays one of my favorite materials because i also work with the wire and matches and then i had a cartoon called the banquet where we have a table with a real forks knives and wine glasses moving around without human characters i've tried various techniques but schools are hand drawn animation that it's easy to work with it's easy to produce unusual and brisk movements and that's why i prefer clay to shoot it because it's it is there is someone in russian or foreign animation film you consider to be sure your guru. when you watch because not in any mation but to me there are three giants charlie chaplin federico fellini and well

disney it's not like i worshiped them but to me they're the best. seller well i'm not surprised you have mentioned disney's they and yet they have them which is hard to find a cartoonist who wouldn't mention disney he sneered at by the way surprisingly only disney didn't drool he said didn't make films he didn't read music for his cartoons in fact he was a businessman was this little bit you know he could draw in addition to other things he was a cartoonist no he could drop it. didn't draw his own causes you know but he was brainy one actually he was a producer yes he was a producer but also he was a very smart person with a director has to be smart politically disney was smart and he knew so much about people that he could portray any person the way he did after disney busch claymation became different kinds good but it's different. so you think

what will disney studios have been producing since disney's death is not as good studios by the way what was the last concert introduced by disney. i don't remember which one was the last but i can see the lion king and there must have been after his death. of course he had long been dead by that time the lion king is somewhat reminiscent of bambi here. belong he schools are to what you did then there are other cartoons i don't think the lion king is anywhere near the man they know and king is vulgar whereas. that's what you say russia. let's talk about something else. in the soviet times runs freedom was considered a non existent. but even a new experiments along with animation. in the present there of market relations. in the everything is considered from the standpoint of money if you

think it would be possible to work the same way today for your. i don't know what to look up at the this is a tough question there were for sure we're doing today there is no censorship on the one hand but on the other hand there is no money with the same sign both director and producer i have to consider these things at the you know in the past we said we need films but i'm sure today we make a product but with the products you need. to make them attractive to people but i try not to think about it but that was just i try to do the same thing i did in the soviet period things that i care about and that hopefully viewers carry. however in my elitist project. duckling trying to combine incompatible things as a tour zero it's both commercial success and artistic values you who go to there's an interesting thing i'd like to talk about what is said that no man's faults you

know trying to work the way you like like wish that doesn't mean that there's a certain financial independence that you enjoy in that frees you from worrying about the commercial success of what you did. which you know i don't have such financial independence. woolies even during new soviet period really valued in the cheeriest my ear freedoms went on this idea that you should rule freedom from what's from viewers from the interests and preferences seem to say i don't care i do what i want you don't have to watch if you don't want to and i don't wish to you know these are your words not mine. actually i'm just asking you if you don't want is not you know measured at their shoes you know it's not like consider my viewers my inner freedom means that. is about things that are important to me i don't care about fashion fashion means nothing to me from my work on things that i care about

. you know trained as an actor if you're an actor as an all right i think i am and . that's cool but how helpful is it so much of an actor or you today of course i'm still an actor do you play a characters that basically yes i play for each of my characters tricycles so these are all your roles and you play the number i would have never played these many roles in a theater which through the ugly duckling alone has more than four hundred characters you know i play them all when i set tasks for enemy to. those roles with accuracy show up to each music and. they all have to be acted according to the task just so that to be in the tradition i did so you want to be one and i became want to know i mean the real one of your own face. didn't work out for you or what happened. i worked at a theater for four years did play in a theater i did i played in the future and i did all kinds of father things but

later i realized that there was something inside me that i hadn't been aware of and i had to express it i had to try raj. you don't regret it you never became a hero any cooling or a denny de vito do you. for a moment. you know enjoy my war but i feel that i really belongs here says gary that was one of the most titled. russian animated. movies that should leave the right to. stay with us we'll continue this interview less than a minute and go. to

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welcome back to spotlight i will do you know and just to remind you that my guest in the studio today is gary biden who is one of the most renowned russian animated cartoon makers at this point but in the what the mr barton let's finish the subject of you take makes another that's probably had like says kid about the music that they're called tunes he has all sorts of music but it seems to me that music is always very important to you because i read somewhere that you were listening to music all the times you were working on the plane with that do you always work like that and does music for you personally. you know i had a cartoon i made with bill gates received the poem dorian kohn and it had no music

at all but generally music even more than animation so when i'm working on the ugly duckling for example the reason this way the young lee duckling turns into a swan beauty swan the kind of sub swan means it's one like he didn't it was a swan lake. yes i began looking for what he had to offer to fit in with that story i found several themes from the not crack her going to rule and composers have arranged a musical. performance of your sessions he agreed on condition that i don't do stuart tchaikovsky score so i told you my love take kolsky as much as he did but you libretto comes straight from understands book right there are no notes that was the only thing left from understand is the duckling turning into a swan that's all the rest is mine. so you did change the libretto of troll did him in music in all of the music that's to the libretto but you can. change it as much

as your life and i did without any hesitation and how much does do it all himself. and in told her anything she is purely a classical rendering girl no it was an arranged tchaikovsky we had twenty seven numbers twenty five were arranged things while day two last ones were original tchaikovsky scores and it was an impression you get is that here wrote those pieces specifically for me and this is what i saw. the orchestra recorded music it was a brilliant job keeping to the music healy team wrote the lyrics and these were performed by some of the best actors like constantine reichen arm and you're going to. answer your call himself who did the part of the. let's hear more now from spotlights here and they did me the. cut too and instead of a concert in moscow house of music has decided on an unusual open into its new

season the ugly duckling is not just any cartoon soundtrack this one like and not correct recorded by the national feel are more nick ocus truck because they were recorded the music for the cartoon i conducted the orchestra which is my usual job but when i dubbed the animal rooster it was garry barden the director of the film who conducted the whole process. he knew exactly each word and each movement of his characters from the very beginning to a very end so i just had. the full length cartoon uses stop go and imation in russia this kind of animation has always been considered more sophisticated with the dominance of computer technologies on screen hand made characters appear to possess specialist. for kilos of clay and feathers were turned into the four hundred characters at this very tame it took gary hart in the director six years to make them talk and walk

finally it's down to audiences to say if the magical then a nation works for them and if clay characters are able to compete with computed contra fox. scores it's ok let's talk about your latest work that. is six years and interest and late because of your recent interviews with. the cartoon. was to an extent your response to the growth of xenophobia. is said you wanted to show that any person can turn out to be totally different from what the initial a seems to be even. six years ago you already wanted to speak out against those things that this problem existed six years ago are you an eight or nine years ago i made a cartoon called it the janet in dress to say me she did it's a ten minute film. music but when the work was over i realized that hi i haven't

covered this subject sufficiently when there is more to be said on the sure my son who is a fictional film director developed the subject in his film russia eighty eight he also bugs in a fog yeah you're pretty good so i thought that in this country where naziism is tolerated where skinheads can march in the streets and people think it is. no but i must talk about these things to children and girl enough to like so they never despise a person because they are different to you or your work i hate it when people scorn immigrants this must not be happening in russia. this means you're not a free person to say you're free and yet you're sending this rather serious social and political message that i'm not free from society but i'm free to express my views the way i see things it's where you should open your mouth you showed your film it look or know that you know it was a success or usually used to show you have been was it realistic says did you

expect anything else. well i'm looking forward to being shown in russia of course judging by locarno reactions to the world premiere that we had i wasn't accepted by the critics remarkably well let me be motorist and see that it was accepted remarkably well when indeed in other confirmation is the fact that the foam has been invited by around thirty world film festivals you don't like film festivals it seems to me you're easily offended do you think so not at all which they did with said make if they do something you don't like you don't talk to them anymore yes that's true and that's normal normal but why that but you know if it was the last show what i've said is that you know they sure are anything else you know it's my knee injury you're the same i'm sure you don't visit a house where you're not welcome to you know that sold out their other houses i used to go there festivals that my dislike an artist of your caliber there are many directors that are highly unpleasant people as

a role they're not very good natured people well i don't want to go into detail there are people of this kind so why rule it out for myself. it's all right so with that said not so long ago that the ugly duckling could have only been made in russia. but i do think still. here well you know for example i travel to to switzerland. simply you know i was thinking why we know russia hates so much for the last a few switzerland has much less of it people over there are simply living true source people over here are in agony and ask themselves why are we that way and then philosophy springs up but in principle i wouldn't have done it over the years because they're kind of living is very quiet and that's their way generally. let's let me give you some statistics regarding your home that's said there were four hundred plus characterise seashores more to mentally frame after frame have had their a one hundred and seven thousand frames in the field. sensations of screen

time in three days of filmmakers they'll process took six years why do you have so unwilling to use computer technology after all even in your technique you can use computers to finish the frame car that if you don't have to work on the menu it will be the same thing sure some live with no no it wouldn't go out the difference is that it's in material culture and it's me because that and i like it yet that i like it because i trost what i see on the screen when it's a real stop but if it's orange has to be a real irony if it's rude in has to be a real buddhist as a viewer i trust real things more than something made to look like aren't or would what do you how would the computer reason. i don't have anything in the studio one day i feel i want to use the computer all do so not because someone expects me to but because i wanted myself let me ask you one more question. well i think i know

the answer but i don't know if you're willing to give a frank answer what's it to do have three d. called citizens seven times take a breath taking creative and of course children are crazy about them what's your attitude to that she meets what can attract museum uncork at least for now demos they want for what are you against and you know i'm not against him but i value. cinema for all other things for instance when i watch the closing scene off city lights where the formally a blond girl in the us the troops charlie chaplin's hands and recognize a scene and he has a flower between his teeth and he's smiling it's a black and white movie but i await much more it's a koroma holiday for example he again it's a black and white not always she's leaving any closing scene i always no special glasses no three d. just great cinema pure and simple and it makes your heart beat or two bucks or so

for me it's so foreign museum and if you tell it to the person who comes in does a story that will make your soul soar is just wonderful with me but it was so foreign to technological things simple tools and nothing more spice about space and i'm not sure thank you very much for being with us and just to remind you that my guest today was gary barlow one of the most titled russian animated cartoon makers and that's it for now from all of us here if you don't have your sales spotlight or have someone who lives here think i shouldn't tell you next i'm just at spotlight will be back with offers that comments on what's going on outside russia until then stay an hour to take it.

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