tv [untitled] September 28, 2010 7:30pm-8:00pm EDT
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welcome to spotlight the m.t.v. show on r t i melding of and today my guest in the studio is constantin cost i chop russia has joined in with the u.n. sanctions against iran and stop the delivery of weapons to the country terrine is threatening to sue moscow if it doesn't fulfill its obligations will discuss the reasons behind russia making this u. turn on relations with iran and the possible repercussions with the chairman of the state duma international affairs committee. russian president dmitry medvedev has vetoed the shipment of that's three hundred missiles and other weapons to iran the measure was put in place after the recent u.n. general assembly session experts say russia was not the blinds to impose these sanctions as the u.n. has accepted there is nothing about air defense systems in the resolution now iran may review its position allowing moscow to enrich uranium for its nuclear program
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some analysts say criticism from moscow is especially harmful for to run as it has always seen russians as allies but in this aspect russia is still less vigorous the united states and some other countries with stricter sanctions. thank you very much for coming to. the u.n. resolution in opposing sanctions on iran's past if i'm not mistaken in g. one soldier said you know russia has suspended the arms contracts only now why what happened in the meantime what made russia. tightness stance on the well first i would disagree with your previous description that russia has made a u. turn in its approach towards iran this is not true frankly speaking according to
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my interpretation of the situation we have always been concerned about the iranian nuclear program because iran as a country as a state under its current leadership is not. convenient is not a transfer important for us sometimes we try to convince iran to behave in a different way sometimes we try to propose to iran some eternity is how to behave in order to preserve its civil nuclear program but not to come into confrontation with the international community and almost each time we. do not get support for these ideas from tehran and unfortunately the questions we transmit to iran on behalf of. on behalf of the security council in a bilateral manner do not receive proper answers and this is why we are concerned this is why we have supported the previous four resolutions on iran passed by the security council since two thousand and six as far as i remember and this is why we
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have supported the latest resolution from the ninth of june of this is a constituent policy of russia. increasing pressure on iran but not letting this pressure go come over to any violent actions like use of military force or anything like that though this is our consistent position and we stick to that position number two each resolution or for the security council is not a regular law to be implemented in a member state of the united nations each resolution needs further legal decisions either by the parliament of in any country or by the political leadership in our case by by the president the resolution passed by the security council on the ninth of july is a very technically very complicated document it consists of i believe eighteen
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pages i have it here it consists of thirty eight paragraphs describing how the future sanctions would look like or what what areas they they cover and so on and so forth and of course all. our experts had to take their time in order to prepare legally constraint and. well strong in our document in order to be in compliance with the security council resolution so we have not pleased that our time and the decree by the president is in compliance with the reason lucian one hundred percent but still we have information that iran is planning to to file a lawsuit against russia for refusing to fulfill its obligations what are the chances for iran to find moscow well the behavior of your own was rather predictable because here we have a clear case of a commercial contract found in each case we have a commercial contra contra there should be
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a paragraph. describing how the parts would solve any or all resolved any possible conflicts or disputes i don't know how these specific contract specifies that their way of resolving conflicts maybe it was so cold and maybe it was some other every three but in any case iran has its right to to to to to to well to demand some compensations for the contract which has not been fulfilled the amount of money russia i stress russia loses on this not fulfilled contract is up to one billion dollars it's a very big amount of money and in case iran will be in the air but ration procedure i believe that of the losses of russia may may may increase one but only one billion dollars i have another mission it is that it's up to eleven billion us dollars no no this is in the press well no this is not true it's
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a little bit less than one billion dollars but it's still very big amount is huge money especially for russian military industrial complex it has to be compensated somehow by by the russian state and i believe that will be done the industry over russia will not suffer out of it but if we speak about a global perspective i believe that any. current or possible losses of russia commercial losses should not prevail over the political losses in case or damages in case we are not in line the reason the nonproliferation regime delivers in line with our commitments and obligations to the security council and through the united nations this is much more important let's talk about political losses russia seems to be losing its special influence over iraq this is one of the one of the cars that russia played in the in the group of six when it went when i said we have
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special relations with terror and we can we can like drive the situation all losing our influence number one again i would like to repeat that years we have had some special relations with iran but we did not enjoy it we have never enjoyed the special influence over iran iran has never been a comfortable partner for us so this is number one and number two i do not believe that iran will just say thank you very much we are not have to visit russia's behavior and this is how we leave russia is all part of this this will not happen because iran is. isolated on the international arena iran does not have million friends in the world and they believe that russia is still a friend of iran it's a friend of iranian people it's a friend of iran is a country definitely and this is why the poles and their further decisions like using military force against iran because we believe that there would be
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a disaster yes there are questions towards the iranian nuclear program but that does not mean we are absolutely convinced that iran while it's its obligations according to the nonproliferation treaty while the united states and their allies in nato sometimes are much more convinced than that and we know that united states and their allies sometimes make mistakes while being. very much convinced on certain regulations of international law in case of a rockery you know what happened well let's take a look at the history of russian irena relations and report now by spotlight in the demeanor that. the construction of the bush era nuclear power plant in iran was started by the germans in the mid nineteen seventies however the nineteen seventy nine revolution and the iran iraq war forced them out of the two or beyond to region in one thousand nine to five russia stepped in while supervising the
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construction of the blue share plant it faced technical and financial challenges as well as political pressure at some point the u.s. and other western countries grew suspicious believe in the iran could use its nuclear program to make weapons russia for years defended iran's right to peaceful nuclear energy meanwhile tehran's reluctant cooperation with the international atomic energy agency only added to the international mistrust. issue good ever more pressing when president ahmadinejad's came to power. in two thousand and six the u.n. security council imposed sanctions on iran her own time russia was against aggressive measures and a pure diplomatic solution this year moscow has finally taken a tougher stance on iran and joined the new un sanctions at the same time russia never withdrew from the bush era project the first nuclear power plant in the middle east has been operated by tehran and moscow's joint venture since august
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several days ago they came another sign of human relations between russia and iran moscow halted deliveries of s three hundred miss out systems to tehran. iran criticised russia's decision accusing moscow for in too much under american influence some experts believe the ban is part of the deal between moscow and washington politically cation of the new start treaty. is the cost of iran's defense minister implied i quote that the decision russia's decision was made under pressure from the third countries and questioned the independence of russian foreign policy and quote this is of this is a very very interesting proposition from from the iranian side. do you think that russia may get something in exchange from those third parties third countries
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after it's opposed the sanctions against syria will number one i do not agree with these position of the minister of defense by saying look you and. i believe that russia is independent actor in this situation russia has all of this played a very significant role in discussions on iran and russia does still play an independent role in this aspect no but. set pressure on russia because these are really short stories are run are too important for us so we don't want to spoil to damage these relations and we believe that these bilateral relations between iran and russia are much stronger than these episode to bode. three hundred and and number two i i think that. you know this is not about us trying to earn some more money it's somewhere else to
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get something else as an exchange of our u. turn on the position on iran this is not the case we do lose our money here i am absolutely sure that this morning it will not become been seated anyhow by any other partner or for us and fortunately i would have been happy if you both did but this is not the case by that decision we just demonstrate that we have our obligations sent commitments and we respect of the subjugation said commitments so the chairman of the state duma international affairs committee constantine cause such off we will be back in less than a minute so stay with us then go. every
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month we give you the future we help you understand how to get there and want to bring the best in science and technology from across russia and around the world your knowledge. harjeet. welcome back to the spotlight i maldonado in just a reminder that my guest in the studio today is constantin because i charge chairman of the state duma international affairs committee this is such as you said you have the text of the resolution of the u.n. resolution right in front of you so can you explain to us well one of the russian
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newspapers cumbersome daily writes that the u.n. resolution i quote doesn't ban the delivery of surface to air missiles to iraq while the russian leadership has another view upon this resolution so do the ass three hundred which are surface to air missiles do they cursed pond. do they fall under this resolution or not well. this is i believe the most important question and of course it will be taken into account while the stockholm or any other between will deal with the possible claim from iran there is allusion as i mentioned is a very technically complicated document but still there is a certain paragraph number eight which describes the situation of these weapons deliveries to iran and it consists of are two parts the spirit of number eight per part number one describes certain weapons that are different for this purpose of
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the united nations register on conventional arms which are directly banned by the security council resolution for the deliveries to iran battle tanks. a large caliber. warships and so on and so force s. three hundred is not mentioned specifically on these on the sea. what product or as a type has a broader product as a product but still there is a second part of this paragraph number eight and that they would like to cited that the security council coasts upon all states to exercise. and restraint over the supply sale transfer provision manufacture and use of all our their arms and related material all our their arms and they believe that russia as
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a responsible member of the international community should demonstrate who region lives and restraint in this case because yes we are concerned about certain aspects of the iranian nuclear program we are concerned about the lack of communications lead of good. relation between iran and international agency on nuclear energy and yes we still have unanswered questions and this is how i believe no no weapons whether that it is mentioned specifically here or not mentioned specifically here should not be delivered to iran from russia under the current existing circumstances it mystical feature of s three hundred is a defensive weapon it's an anti-aircraft missile so iran as we understand is pretty vulnerable today. and it is being threatened it was being threatened by direct threats from israel there were threats from certain american politicians does the
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absence of the russian s. three hundred surface to air missiles make iran more vulnerable today said does it make does it make an easier it needs it target for a possible attack syria to calais yes but in practical terms no because the most important part of the russian position right now in the iranian context is to prevent any use of. military force or threat of using military force towards iran so the real target is to reach iran has right now is either to continue its program and similar tenuously to strengthen its defensive potential in order to protect itself against any possible military service is alternative number one but as derivative number two which is much more logical which is much easier which is much closer is to start good cooperation with the international community in order
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to eliminate any risks of being attacked and this is the choice which we hope iran will sooner or later make but which is the which is does not make now unfortunately and we will continue to protect the iran in terms of preventing the use of military force against this country but we will continue to set pressure on iran in terms of this resolution in terms of economic sanctions financial sanctions sanctions which are applied to some certain physical people people and organizations and by they're hoping to do a little convince iran that to curating with the international community is much better much weiser them to oppose the international community trying to convince them that iran has certain rights. there is no other information from iran and it concerns the the cyberattack it says that the rands nuclear facilities
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recently have been undecided britax and some in the rand believe that this this is a cyber attack from russia that this kind of a huge mess and that can only be exercised by a state not by an individual can you say anything concerning that have you heard of that and what's your comment yes i've heard about that and i seeing that the system or the international system is off you ron. against the cyber attacks is much weaker than it is in many other countries this is also a very tight technology. situation and iran unfortunately is not in the position of protecting itself efficiently against cyber attacks this is number one number two i do not see any reasons or for russia specifically for russia to to to to exercise of this type of cyber attacks against iran this is just
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stupid to blame russia for that we cannot reach anywhere we cannot gain in any purpose out of four out of this project so i absolutely exclude that russia could could could have participated as a state or in any other capacity in this type of attacks against you know this is not possible will will this sanction that russia that russia signed now will that somehow affect russia's cooperation with iran on another huge nuclear project which is the nuclear power station and bush area no there is no direct linkage between these two stories. the previous years let's say ten or fifteen years ago the united states certain countries in western europe tried to blame russia for having this coup if your issue is run on bushehr there's potential. contribution to the iranian. military nuclear program this is not the case in
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technical terms the bushehr reactor is a so-called light water reactor you can not use waste from the reactor in order to produce to enrich uranium to produce nuclear weapons you need to have a completely different type of reactors heavy water reactors which is not the case we will share this is absolutely clear for any expert and this is no good enough clear for. united states for four for nato countries for is anybody else nobody creates any problem of out of russian kookery russian the region called on will share further on may probably we will have another contracts because iran or same type of nuclear reactors and they are acknowledged there recognized by. eight as absolutely compatible with the nonproliferation regime. in other quotes i've noticed that you don't really like what the rain in defense minister says.
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just to be provocative i'll continue quoting at another quote from the iranian defense minister concerning sanctions situation this russia's action makes russia quote an unreliable partner not deserving trust in the future well first of all is moscow sorry to have lost the randian arms market and do you believe that this is really a loss of face for the russian arms dealers number one we are not in that situation yet and they hope that we will not come to that situation we have not lost the iranian market on weapons or anything else we have problems on a certain contract this is it and then the iranian authorities may make these or their choice but the heirs crissy hundred situation does not mean anything else this is three hundred situation and nothing else so what you want to say is that
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the russian iranian arms rate is much bigger than the s. three hundred well because it is much bigger in certain cases when we have let's see light weapons. rifles or things like there are some weapons to be used by physical persons what why you know this is nothing strategic this is nothing we change the the balance does not affect the. offensive or defensive potential or off the. and again number two. the minister of defense of iraq is old my respect to him blames russia for being on the reliable partner i believe that they should start from there was something else and i believe that iran has behaved as an unreliable partner each time we proposed certain solutions for the nuclear program of iran like the enrichment center in on guys like some other solutions which were absolutely rejected by iran which
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were never supported by by. but by this sort of this of this country and reach. russia of the previous times in a very difficult situation and i am very sort of that iran did not use this unique opportunity of having russia is a real partner of iraq thank you thank you very much for being with meet with us mr clawson chairman just a reminder that my guest today was the chairman of the state duma international affairs committee and that's it for now from all of us here if you would have your say on spotlight just drop me a line will be back with more first and comment on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay and party and take care possible.
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