hello again a welcome to spotlight. on r.t.r. logar love and today my guest in the studio is it in the box. since she became the director general of unesco shares been promoting the concept of new human is how successful is she and has the world become more humanistic and that you know plenty to talk about it the director general of us is our guest in the studio today. to read a book is a daughter of a prominent bulgarian communist activist and your devoted after graduating from the moscow state university of florida relations just started her political career in the bulgarian foreign ministry when the socialist bloc to sold in bulgaria launched democratic reforms irina temporarily withdrew from bulgarian politics returning

nine hundred ninety five as the deputy foreign minister a year later the rena was appointed the foreign minister but was forced to resign with the rest of the cabinet a few months later. irina actively promotes european values in bulgaria while the european political forum she created she is currently a year in jail for your time as director general of unesco. hello and welcome to the show thank you very much for being with thank you for inviting me first of all welcome to moscow welcome to russia today and i want to ask you about this world conference on early childhood care and education that that's held in moscow well why the attention to this problem and why is a conference held moscow well this is our first such conference on early to. good

care in education because we. consider as the leader of the second millennium development goal which is education for all we do can see the better early childhood care in education have an extremely important role in the life of every human being afterwards as the recent scientific research also shows for one dollar invested in preschool education in child care it means that we can save eight dollars for the run during the education process and i am happy that we have this conference here in moscow moscow has offered it so hospitality and the russian government of course and we could also share experience we kept discussions also among sixty eight ministers of education from all over the world and also with the delegations of more than one hundred twenty countries i would say

that this is a conference which is the last of a whole series of important conferences on education that unesco has organized in the last two years. you know probably to all to well that education is so one of our priorities it's within our mandate we are the only united nations agency which looks at age occasion from a holistic point of view we follow education starting from the preschool being the primary school the secondary high education also so we can see that this is an important. finalising of the whole process of thinking what is education what does it occasionally represent in in our day swirled how we respond to the challenges we talk about the quality education we talk also about a technical implication of training we talk about the. so within age occasion we

talk about education for human rights for sustainable development so it's really an extremely important moment in the life of our organization russians like to say the preschool education system is exemplary is a true bible you know school standards and what makes it unique if it is i discussed yesterday with the minister for saying the challenges also which definitely are in in all of the countries say in the world about developed in developing countries and and i have to commend the russia that russia pays for a lot of attention on the priest calling although as the minister himself has said there's still a lot needs to be done of course our message is taking the examples of for different countries where they have good systems. two on one hand

to make the advocacy for peace corps link and on the other hand also to have a link between prescreening and primary school i think this is also very important you know well. there's so talk about the higher the higher education there is a widespread perception in russia that these days the quality of highly highly cation is decreasing dramatically well at least in russia but also in other countries what does you know school have to say on those disrespect you know i just come from the second congress unesco chair of. within the russian federation we do have here fifty eight to misquote chairs. from all different regions you know are really a vast country and we did discuss also the question of the quality of education i would say that it's it's a challenge. in. in many countries. the dynamism of the

contemporary development in the world the requirements of a quick technological innovation then. a quick adaptation also and a quick i would say the very closely in between economic activity and education between the social agenda in the economic agenda of different countries is very demanding so i understand perfectly well that there is always a need for a higher quality of education i discussed this issue with the such a prominent the russian academician intellectual i would say. could emission the city get copied so we discussed exactly the question of for the quality of education and i and those who believe here is decreasing well a high do they see what is the person as an absolute goalie i think you know i think he's it's not the method of optimism or of pessimism i think it's a matter of for how certain system and how certain i would say way of intellectual

thinking inscribes within the overall world thinking because i do believe that nowadays not no country is isolated nobody is isolated in this world and especially in the condemning terms and especially in scientific terms and i was quite ahead be told to hear such a prominent thinker a member of the roma club also believe expressing once again the believe there to night school could lead to these international search for for high quality and also promote closer cooperation among scientists among the different circles because all the the challenges are common in the responses also should be common well does the bowline you know milan your process guarantee the quality of education because in russia it's a matter of great controversy especially if for example the the. unified state

examination it's a it's a it's a subject of very heated discussions and the president has what are the advantages of the bologna process from your point of view i think that to belong to sets criteria will belong to sets of standards. and will anya also the fact that so many academic institutions follow this process and also that many also of the russian or high schools. economic institution also fold this but this creates the possibility of a a cause a corporation in some kind of a common common the descending and common sense i think this is important i wouldn't pass judgments and say this is the perfect one i don't believe that there is a perfect when but but still it's setting high standards and following these standards i think it's an important stage. in this process of international cooperation

a little a little does so the standard but since most of the russians are saying that once we join the blah new process the quality of russian education is becoming low does that mean that the russians lose one higher than the bar just that a lot of food is going down i it's difficult. to pass judgement i know that you were educated you yourself were educated russian yes. yes and i can say that the institute where i studied the moscow state he said to the international relations. said it had been extremely high quality of education. very qualified professors i would say a world class high class quality of education and why recollection of what i mostly value was that there were. king encouraging and then

he says in thinking which was not very easy at those times but i do believe that if if we look at from this from this point of view i think that. in russian universities. standards are high but i would not like to pass judgment whether it's laurel high i think it's a. it's a it's a very good them bishan to have a high quality of education in the wording and but i do believe also that. nobody's isolated there should be a common approach and they should because the corporation and what's your personal i mean your personal opinion since you have personal judgments on the bill are you process what's more important to teach the kids students school students high school students to think to analyze or to do to make them fit into certain standards to go further in life to high school high school university postgraduate then i think this. contradicted your has there because i mean you can go from from

last h. turns out there and at the same time you can think it's a method of how your what your approach is and where you what method where where you put a priority in doing this. i don't believe that they contradict each other so in the book of a director general of you know ask our spotlight will be back shortly right after the break so stay with us don't know. jews are leaving england and france tried to reason with hitler germany demands of the land and gets its way they are being treated the safety net for them so. demons are denied the whole of europe is involved in war efforts to establish a system of collective. the nine hundred thirty trail and it's still on the egypt.

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a reminder that my guest here in the studio is it in the book about director general of unesco it is just before the break you said an interesting thing that that you think that speak of education we can do both in harmony you can't we can teach children young people to think. to analyze and at the same time make them fit into certain standards to be ready to live in a modern technological society but as far as i understand these things do contradict his shadow because like like in the army you have to fit into started this is the name of the game the less you think the better your career goes in the army but on the other hand in it and science mr perelman doesn't fit in any standards at all but he is a great thinker so so you still believe that these things can be harmonized well you're very. convincing in the way you express it but i really do believe that when

we talk about quality education especially. in higher education there should be really some stand there it's the way you reach this tender attend of course you may over pass this ten that you may. think out of the box you may be very creative and on the very many examples we know that i can see that some point even to be almost mentally retarded because he didn't excel in schools we have such such cases but but my in my point is that if we want to really have a competitive to give the possibility of very many students from from all over the world i would say and from from different countries in different institutes. to be competitive. we still have to follow some kind of a a common part otherwise we won't have specific create terror for evaluating them

but in any case i still believe all by your very convincing i command center i still believe that thinking and the ising trying to find your own way can be encouraged also in high school or should be encouraged ok. you know sco is one of the main u.n. organizations and all human organizations are pursuing the so-called millon new development goals you this could states that i quote if we want to make development sustainable we have to invest in education in which part of the world do you think the situation. with education is the most deplorable you know the millennium development goals i believe were the most ambitious and the same at the same time the most humane the gender that the united nations and the international community have set up in the recent in the recent days. kates and that's why i would say

there is so much even patient around the implementation of these goals i was just there in new york a week ago i participated in the debate summit of the united nations and of course mostly engaged with the education because this is our priority tendin we are the leaders there. our assessment is that. the there is certain progress in any case there is a lot of firm movement forward there is a lot of progress in the primary education in the roman t. in the very many parts of the world. in countries where for example. taxes for primary education were abolished we have first seen in rome and doubled in countries such as tanzania been in senegal in many countries but also we see that in many countries it will be impossible to reach the millennium development goals in general and concretely in education and there are probably some twenty

countries in sub-saharan africa which are confronting enormous difficulties and we believe that we have to focus and help them but let me make another point talking about education i do believe that all of course the eight million development goals are closely interlinked poverty eradication of poverty or gender equality or plan to make such as ha ve in aids. in education of course closely interlinked but still i believe that education underlies the implementation of all the other million and development goals the secretary general mr bank human said a new priority in the rightfully so i would say concerning maternal health and child mortality where progress has been probably the least. analyzed and

good preached. and now by discuss that also with the world health organization with the rector general mr manley says margaret chang and with unicef a coordinator and with mr banking on himself last week i do believe that. without education whatever investment we make in maternal health and child mortality to take just one example which is so much important we won't reach results on a sustainable basis we may reach some results on the on the concrete basis on a temporary basis we may do things but if we want to really to have something on a sustainable basis i think that education is so much important and all the recent developments schol that if a mother is said to k. to primary education the all the data about

mortality and child care in everything improve dramatically in if a woman a mother receives secondary education then this improves in times so once again my advocacy is that education so be should be the priority of the priorities when we talk about the implementation of the millennium development goals i also understand that there is a problem in europe too for example let's say let's take the problem with gypsy children which is a pretty popular subject these days. as far as i understand there are a lot of efforts made to improve the situation with education but less than fifty percent of gypsy children complete even primary education if this is if this is really the case is there a program to do this problem it is a problem and countries where there are population naturally the. majority of the wrong population is. many lists in europe but not only in eastern europe also in

some other countries syrup and countries recognize this this problem they have for asked us also for some assistance and some advice and we are working with the council of europe on that matter we will participate tenth of october also in a meeting with the council of europe on the education of for the roma children and we are putting also our first such program in order to especially in the area of education because there are other problems canonic problems but education he says basic in other to solve also all the rest that by the way this is a an excellent example also for the developing countries that without education they cannot have the problems of poverty for exclusion which is so important so yes we will be involved and we will try to contribute to the finding of the proper responses for this problem well more of this now from spot lights.

in the august fronts explode about two thousand drew back to their home countries over many and. they returned mostly to poverty a little chance of employment the decision by the french president was controversial and like to protests across europe it brought the so-called room issue to the international spotlight an estimated ten million members of the roma community in europe like access to health care education employment and housing put in to a unesco report half of the room with children failed to complete prime rib you cation extra costs of schooling huge problem for many families sometimes do not have warm clothes and prefer to have thank you desert home and called together. gary which is home to one of the largest room communities in europe twenty percent of crude children never go to school. in many countries such kids will have sent to

school and up in classes specially created for children with mental disability said we gave only contributes to the exclusion of through the u.s. group called the true sponsibility and government in calls on them to think of the school social causes which would lead to do children get in a fresh start in life. since you since you became director general of you know school you have been promoting the concept of new humanism what is it do you do do you want to say that the contemporary world is losing its humanistic values the world. well. modestly i would say that. all that is within your nesquik unesco's agenda. is very closely linked. i would say two to two human values.

took human rights to the dignity of. for human beings it sits inscribed in our constitution that. we should throw education culture science and communication we should build peace in the minds of people in the sugar for the human dignity and and i believe that probably. this believe that we have to reconsider unesco's a trend which is still extremely valid and not also our agenda but the overall approach of the united nations and international community to solving their problems i call the kind of when you knew him when ism and for me for example you can win these i'm definitely is the millennium development goals agenda which is one of the most humanistic agenda that the international community has said set up after the its it establishment the creation of the united. ations for me

a new film we need them is the way we look to the climate change. a protection of our environment i would say that also knew when we need them is the quest also in the bishan to preserve for biodiversity we do need to have a different look for new poor me also new companies amuse the protection of cultural diversity in the promotion of cultural diversity protection of languages languages who are in danger in danger of promoting mother tongue education promoting also with a new i would say conviction and a new stronger political will gender equality i believe all these seas i knew very humanistic agenda and as long as i am now director general for this great organization i would call your next call i believe that we could contribute

more to this new search of for humanistic various and how we implement the matter i believe that the economic and social crisis and the environmental crisis also to some extent also accelerates and should make us more convinced that we have to bear once and make society smaller in course if and more coherent thank you thank you very much for being with us in just a reminder that my guest today was. director general of unesco and that's not for the after all of us here are going to have your say on spotlight and have someone in mind who you think i should go into next time just drop me a line will be back with more first time comment on what's going on outside russia until then stay on party and take care thank you thank you very much.

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