if you look at the white house line i think that again i'm going to i guess i agree with gareth there are different issues that are laid out in the woodward book and it's not clear to me that this is ministration knows exactly what we're doing in afghanistan and i'm sorry i mean i may not agree with the policy but i'd at least like to hear it clearly articulated what it seems to me right now is the president's policy is a political policy it's not a strategic policy i'm more inclined to agree with the vice president i think it's an enormous issue and no i mean you know i would love to see a national government come out of afghanistan i would love to see as many terrorists you know from the taliban killed as possible i just don't know what the strategic point is is it to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of bad elements of the what exactly is the issue here this is ministration has not made its policies clear all right well there's a reason i don't think i'll use it i may say so that. there's a reason to introduce this is ministration about this issue and there are certainly

different objectives and there's certainly a case to be made that we can secure our minimal interests in afghanistan and pakistan you know i have to jump in with run out of time i hope we don't we won't be doing this program ten years from now many thanks to my guest today david cole of policemen and gareth porter and thanks to our viewers for watching us here darkie see you next time and remember cross talk rules. for the full story we've got it for. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers.

welcome back this is all so you could triple the headlines. as the morning promised on the end as that yeah the tables turn on the coalition soldiers posting basile pilbeam here is on the internet that town about now using clips uploaded by allied troops to drum up needed support i don't think withdrawal deadline you're in was in the country shows no signs of a. tension mounts ahead of the switch carriers parliamentary elections and political divide in kurdistan security badges of being intensified across the country to avoid closure as the country has been in time or else as president but

he it was a smooth road and a bloody tonight. made slick tall from the baikonur cosmodrome in kazakhstan a soyuz rocket has left for the space station with a payload of navigation and data systems on board the two russian cosmonauts on the market analyst who will complete the expedition twenty one and they are expected to dock with the i assessed on sunday where they'll spend the next six months. time now for our special report where we're me getting back to by six find out why the people attending that box on the bright lights all the seats will be at one with nature. out in the countryside every day hard work is far more valuable than urban creature comforts here the people have no use for the latest high tech handheld devices consumer

crazes. they build what they call ecological settlements to live in harmony with the natural environment so while they simply escaping big city life for a short break or are they fully rejecting modern civilization ecological settlements a refuge for misfits and down costs or a place for the independent and strong minded of these people moving to be the economic crisis or to escape from themselves. that is thirty's or. early or in some is an important time for a few that's when he begins collecting honey from his forty bee hives as he pulls out each heavy honeycomb he suggests the bees may be in nature's original eco

settlers. i mean bees are very rational creatures that's what is amazing about them and that's why i adore them. they're very useful creatures they don't harm nature in any way whatsoever nature blossoms with the arrival of. eighty years ago fielder who's a former engineer and several of his friends were given a one hundred hectare plot of land one hundred forty kilometers southwest of moscow they divided it into one hundred equal parts they offered the land to anyone willing to adhere to special conditions takers were expected to live in the settlement permanently. we follow these rules there is a ban on pesticides and manmade fancies of trees every one of us must plant trees we are dead set against smoking and alcohol. are banned in public places.

the name of the settlement means no is the maybe no biblical flood but dozens of people have flocked here from big cities only a few plots of land are still vacant. hello . we shifted i'm doing i was a go on. maxine from moscow is one of the most recent newcomers he wants to take advantage of the warm weather to finish building a house he spent a good deal of time and effort preparing for his move to come check his boss had allowed him to report to work in moscow only twice a month he also convinced his wife and children that it was much easier to work outside the. i grew up in a village. in my apartment there wasn't enough space for me.

to my windows trees all around. so i don't have people cramping. things before the country. seems wife is a doctor by trade after she came here it took her a while to get used to the daily manual work there are neither shops nor centers in the settlement electricity only came here a couple of years ago residents are frequently found baking their own bread. when life gets tough i take comfort from the i was working in moscow i'd spend three hours going to work and back. i spend as much time in vegetable garden out in the open. this bakery at an ecovillage in scotland begins work at half past seven it's in an

old fishing village near findhorn scotland's north sea coast and is one of the world's oldest and most famous eco settlements the people here. it's autumn and time for the harvest. it's very important to grow our own food so that we don't have to buy it in from overseas so that we know that the food trevitt so much but that it's really fresh. and. elliot sank species happy to see the bumper crop strictly speaking growing tomatoes is not his every day job he's in charge of the generation next project of organizing programs for young eco settlers and he had maintains that life without physical work is impossible in the village. my. different. people rufus it can be really engage

in a different word so i love. some of the vegetables that he had gathered this morning will end up in the community center kitchen where the center. meat products are strictly for and this kitchen eggs a permitted for use in pounds and salads. with. and. schools of settlers turn up at the community center and the cooks finish preparing the food for dinner. everybody is expected to join in the.

the history of what is now a well known community goes back forty seven years peter. came with a friend. to live in a trailer near the village. when their efforts to grow vegetables succeeded others followed. campaigners for the eco friendly lifestyle began arriving at findhorn from around the world during the one nine hundred seventy s. the community grew from twenty to one hundred fifty members. as we come through this landscape here we start to move into what we call a poem a culture a garden. garden is the same thing as co-creating with nature working with nature one of the reasons why i came to. because of meditational focus the spiritual progress but also working with nature. gibson was one of the first

settlers. he's lived. his house is one of the eco village is an attraction it's made from whiskey barrels we were looking for would particularly wood to use and so on which is very hot and whiskey barrel wood the hard wood is great. right now the water to speak. and that's the way to get. inside the whiskey barrel everything is just as simple and ecologically pure as it is outside as a village veteran craig is in charge of several ecological projects we live very simply we still live quite simply but it was not difficult was really wonderful because we were. not working for money. doing everything

just for the collective. nice climate nice people we're not trying to create something alternative we're trying to demonstrate a different style of living and we see ourselves more. so we are almost a little town. moscow one of the biggest cities in europe concrete and glass towers are cropping up in the capital the brand new financial center housing both russian and foreign firms. and with. i think it's ok on the how. shall we draw conclusions regarding chile i mean school should we tie that in with kazakhstan. this workspace is on the top floor of one of moscow's skyscrapers but the head of the firm with this prestigious office space doesn't care much about the view from his desk he's done in stellar golf the man considered to be russia's

first millionaire in the early one nine hundred ninety s. he also set up the first russian commodity exchange but things took an unexpected turn seven years ago when his business went bust stole it off himself also went bankrupt when he was forced to sell off his apartment he took an extreme measure and resolved to leave moscow for a place without central heating running water or electricity. i said to my wife i lost my job and money and we could no longer own our apartment and we had to go somewhere else immediately so that there would be. my daily routine is like this i get up at six in the morning to tend the cattle

then i have the right first and go to moscow my eldest son stays behind to look after the household i visit the big bad city to formulate anti-crisis measures and mechanisms. of the start of the financial meltdown was asked to head a private and he crisis center but even after moving into his huge office in moscow he never even toyed with the idea of returning to the capital permanently. thank god we have no apartment in moscow this coffin of an apartment no matter how spacious it might be is a far cry from my house is here is my home and this is what i call life. but now only gets to spend weekends in his out of this world settlement. maxime's daughter a computer expert living in gov jack is fresh from a horse ride the neighbor breeds horses. look at do we she

says and she's beautiful. see the bills that pull these. most of the one hundred settlers have opted for country life because of their children. they believe raising them outside town is easier to refuse to temptations in the countryside. in the evening. the common home. is in the night. there. is a newcomer to come she teaches the inhabitants. and tells them about the country's culture. most local residents have volunteered jobs be a teaching. school children.

for the first time people asked me to tell them about indian dances and demonstrate some of them since it is a good deal of interest on the pontiff local residents and even asked me to teach them and i greet. the. indian song. this one's been filled with many activities from work in the vegetable gardens to learning new skills. people hear. the low traffic jams supermarket queues old t.v. set but they have to get the day's chores completed. hungry for the full story we've got it first hand the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers. wealthy british.

market. can. find out what's really happening to the global economy with. the global financial headline. in this part of scotland but this summer. in the eco village. some of them. who pay for their vegetables. phoenix's the in the settlement it's items are targeted mostly at visitors and

guests but. but instead of paying in pounds she uses the local currency. the exchange rate stays the same one equals one pound. seventy years ago to support local businesses. in order to keep. the people proud of their recycling system. with a special device called the living machine. from here under ground. the next step is that. this is the first place we introduce into the time

and that kills the bacteria that was previously. used here bacteria microorganisms purify it in several phases hey you can see the bubbles in the water condition is the. process. after this process in which. we come to the car if you look into the water. and this is the final tank cleaning from this point the water goes underground. which runs it up the wrong way. the end result is crystal clear. in the pond you can see with maybe there.

generally speaking a very simple principle. green technology is used. to maintain the must not take from nature than she can. for the chemical fertilizers and not used whenever possible. pride we just wanted to have as many renewable features as possible so that you could see them you know. turbines complement solar panels or the wood stove or whatever else. electricity generated in this way. but willing to pay because they know computers. this was a community wind project we also wanted to involve the community and after they were rectitude we had groups of young community artists and school children

decorate all three turbans and this was a school project about the ecological footprint. it's daybreak in the russian. revisits the. indian says the day before but today she is the teacher and she's taking a geography global oh that's was the right. how would you describe the race to reach a. strayed. two years ago and has. always been in good supply the. children cheerful generous and elsewhere. they want to learn things. i get the desired response from them that you back if you will.

this. recently. last winter living in a small. room. came here last july the grass was very high here. the first thing that we did. and we'll leave here until december. and into that barn we carried it with the film and did the same inside to make the barn warm. but the and then my husband found bricks and outlaw ants. and he used them to make a stone. alexi and his wife nina lived in this tiny bomb until the summer. alexy who was a successful photographer then began building his family a new home in the spring. gave birth to their second child now the house is almost

complete alexian lien say they found happiness. we don't do what we don't want to do of course forcing people to do what they dislike is no good it's. your expectations much what you see in the new place you adapt to the situation naturally and you do what you want to do. people feel much more comfortable here to have an apartment and money and job or a business where everything was ok with that and yet they decided to come here they're successful here too as for escapism it doesn't work out well as a rule. yes it's me. i know i haven't sacked him to the urals as for the money it goes to.

government telephone barely stops ringing even on saturday mornings as an entrepreneur whose business was ruined years ago sterling of sees the financial crisis as the best time for spreading the economic lessons that land. this crisis offers a big opportunity for one thing urban people are losing jobs nobody needs this is a powerful stimulus for them to move to other places and if this city sewage system goes down that it compel people to move in no time the government dislikes the term eco sattler he calls himself a peasant and hates progress more than even the most radical greens and feels that scientific progress does nothing but harm and maintains that people should go back to their roots living as he does just like in days gone by the food should come from your own vegetable garden. just like them and eat them. laurie we don't use

any cameco to grow them. come on try it. even has an eco solution to making a nice without a freezer. this is all free only a short time ago i had always dreamt of making a realized box and that's the right time for a big chunks of meat to be stored here. the freezer is on one side of the fridge bought all jars and canned food are kept on the other one a freeze comes around i crammed into this place. the eyes down their last for a whole year. according to government people should eat at home with their families and say prayers to he believes the best way to beat the crisis is to reject innovation and revert to time tested practices. well any

novelty is the work of the devil everything that is old has been tested for thousands of years people used to leave quite well they just gave birth to children and multiplied through they quarreled and went to war but came to terms in the end but now great discoveries by dan scientists. suicide for all of us. back home in scotland once a closed community has become an education center that's over fifty years old many international organizations hold seminars here. as issues and guests visit to the internet from the experience. of visitors coming to the fentanyl eco village this time it's a focus everyone's invited to see the show. another object of pride in finland is the large concert hall which is filled to capacity this is.

musicians are not asked to perform at the theatre settlement one hundred forty kilometers from moscow strangers are now treated with suspicion on one occasion house was burned down and there's been dead or is it others visitors need permission to come to. the. found office a simple explanation a community of settlers is a convenient arrangement but everyone's responsible for their own livelihood. you must leave something behind in this world blending hundreds or thousands of trees bringing more happiness into this world that would be a good outcome from my life that's the case we'll be happy to have with. other has numerous followers all over russia. settlements. and in the

far east the recession has prompted people to leave the town behind and move closer to nature. and that now people understand. bank balances can be easily lost but if you found a place under the sun. you can stay afloat.

this place make sound i managed to. coop but another is it sparkles and unexplainable interest. in a place where supernatural things are happening. before . the so. on r t. k. keep. cool.