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a yellow voiced to the all the latest expedition to study the area and to state russia's territorial claims. and in a few moments to be sure spotlight good old talks to twenty time nobel prize winner in physics from russia professor constantine's of us who together with his scientific revolutionized nato attack engineering using just pencil lead and scotch tape stay tuned for the. this place makes some unmanaged. but another is it sparkles and unexplainable introduced. to a place where supernatural things are happening. on

. probably one of. those. on our. hello again or welcome to spotlight they interview shallow artsy i'll be in awe of and today my guest is going to spend soon not myself six years ago two russian scientists in manchester discovered a revolutionary material called left think last week they were awarded a nobel prize in physics for what is likely to revolutionize nine attack engineering today again and not a soul of our packing their bags for stuff to collect their million pounds from the cell of is joining us via satellite link from england. born in

russia sent in the us all of his father was an engineer while his mother was a teacher after graduating with honors from the moscow physical technical university constantin started work at a scientific research center in the in moscow two years later he moved to the netherlands breaking met another russian born scientist and drug game under his guidance he continues to work the do physicists later moved to the university of manchester and. ok to continue their research six years ago no less often game discovered graffiti for which they were awarded your physics prize there to receive the world's most prestigious scientific word the nobel prize for producing graffiti which can rival silicon as a basis of computer chips so perhaps their sense of letting silicon valley stay american but making griffin valley more russian creation at.

home instead of a cell of welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us. first of all have you already got yourself a joke see that maybe you got one. too much too many of our problems. i would i would appreciate any advice ok. well the russian government as far as you know i'm sure is attempting to create a sort of a silicon valley here outside moscow well do you think it's maybe a better idea now to to to create a new graphene value rather than a silicon valley. the former regime is of course of the priority of the silicon valley would be it would be quite. well you would know you have published a paper describing. describing your your your invention your work well five years

ago right so. far five years what have you been doing since where where are you now with your research is it one hundred feet or is something else. that was that was only the beginning what we showed in that paper is that we can produce this material apparently. this material got so many fantastic properties that we were still stuck there in for those six years i guess we're going to start it or people you go into or studied for for the next ten twenty or you or you or more years or so so you still are working on graffiti and the same on the serious subject yet so so you know they can you not be measured phyla from the subject on one fortunately norther and the main problem is that i guess the most interesting experiment is still had a farce and of course this prize really. brings us

a little bit behind on this in this rush so to get to those very nice experiments can you tell us what is this most that made experiment and frankly speaking for every single research. might be there the type of experiments because this this material or has a number of very different but very innocent properties the mechanical properties the optical properties the. electronic properties for me is the combination between mechanical and electronic properties which are the most interesting constantin you easier said than a minute ago that you were in this in this paper of yours for which you got the nobel prize you said that you said i quote we can produce good feeling but as far as i know you are not producing anything or you are interested in production or you just interested in research. well we do research on this

material bugs in order to start our experiments we need to produce those samples first so of course the sample production reproduction of all this material is quite and portland's and. very often the most important parts or for our research you said that you have to produce enough material for your research but one of your colleagues in the united kingdom i quote said in this age of complexity with the machines like the super collider these guys managed to get the nobel prize using just sellotape so. is it true did you really that's yes that's absolutely true and furthermore i guess a cheaper sounds good eighty percent of researchers across the world who do graffiti and it's actually it's a it's

a clear mission subject no they but they still use this sellotape methods or issue introduced introduced in two thousand and four and you also still use hello tape in your associates. in most cases yes and like it in greek. you have a year year do you have enough sellotape now or you still i wasn't allowed to you still have to do to pick to pick it out out of garbage beds room got an exclusive supply from a few companies ok now. why are you called garbage scientists you know this label garbage scientists is it is it really because beer because you you pulled your first samples are the garbage bin or what is it. yes probably and i totally don't don't don't come although nobody tells us brave enough to say to me

two twenty phrases. totally are totally fine who is being called like this and so it's an interesting story we were gods it is indeed rooted our colleague electioneer ski who was working with us at the time. during experiments on the way how he clean draw fire from the throw in this cellar table with pieces of thin pieces of of graphite into the bin and basically what we've done we've picked a top and. made our first samples from from those that so so you don't regard this next day mad as being insulting to you know absolutely no i don't i don't care whole people call and ok you know can you tell us when did you realize that what you were doing is really a revolution in physics did you ever realizing it. well. you see we are quite lucky you know all that we can afford to

work result thinking about producing area lucian physics we can't afford to work just because we were really really like it and already the very first experiments are true. than it was was those samples made from those first tapes we realize that we have something extremely interesting you know hans and you took us to probably easier or you win more to get the fields graph and samples bods the interesting physics you can see in the verify in the first experiments ok how many people except you and game contributed to this graphene research because as far as i know usually one or two people get the nobel prize but actually it's a it's a company of like dozens of people is it the case with you. oh yes here i was in

that it was a pool of great researchers of fantastic people who were doing those first experiments you see i don't think that. the prize is due in just on the merits of the one experiment so rouer doing very interesting physics over the over the whole all over the years. in that we we actually i especially want to think should be more of it in the green or who've been working with us for for quite a long time and. also have a great pull off from toss to the students on poles dogs who from all over the world with us but this science is no. this is this this area so vast now that we rely you know experiments not on the on the on our results we do rely on the results of all the community and it is you know it consists of

probably hundreds of labs across the world so are you going to split the million quit you hey going to get it yet is that. well it's million one asli i. have so busy at the moment i do know a thought for its. thought about this and really come hard here ok your teacher and now your colleague andrew again said i quote that graphene has all the potential to change our life the same way plastics did in the twentieth century so do you think that the twenty first century will be there the the age of growth feed the age of game and know myself. oh yeah absolutely graffiti changed our lives come completely dramatically so we've had fantastic time over the last years and we arrive to this small one which is which is quite good as well but

seriously i think it's. it does have a great more potential we still don't realize. how large is this potential i don't want to speculate about a place in silicon or griffin there are far more can complicated questions than. the as a said already there are quite a few properties of this material which are unique the mechanical optical electronic and it's refined it's a applications. you know we're still there for the nobel prize winner in physics this year spotlight will be back shortly right after the break so stay with us. live. live.

live. live showbiz that stands at the payment of the insel trade it's a nice presentation high production the success of these graphics is all of this is a way to sort of focus people's attention by using techniques that are sensitive that seem to come out during this war we had millions in the military entertainment lists . imagine your life under the big cities.

crystal clear water. organic food. living in harmony with nature. sounds impossible. some people have already chills. a place under the sun on our. little lives. lives . welcome back to spotlight i am al green of in just a reminder that my guest today via satellite link from from manchester is constantin number still of the man who was awarded nobel prize in physics this year . consensus well i know that you both you. and regain the colleagues you have just mentioned telling us about. most of them

are russians and i know that you even work of the so-called russian floor at the inverse of manchester although about stories now that by russians so you are a british citizen game is a dutch citizen but did consider yourself still too good to be russian or or british where i don't know european or what do you think oh. i definitely consider myself russian. i'm british as well and we of a lot to russian education to stare. and sounds absolutely. but you chose to go to continue your work in england because what because the university you're in now gives you more research possibilities what else what if you compare well you already said in

a couple of interviews that that the russian system of training in physics is the best in the world but after you trained compare russian and european british what are the differences. first of all let me let me tell you that it is absolutely normal practice that scientists go from one lab to another to learn different techniques and obtain different skills i can tell you that if you go ph d. in holland for instance he won the big be able to continue as opposed over there because you would have to while or you would have to go away from the country ok there are some some some some researchers of course applied. was them to measure difference well probably one of the one of the good things for me about. western system of science is its openness and so so easy to move from one

university to to another and definitely help in transfer in the knowledge of the skills and the technology and it's it's it's one of the key issues in a more them science well president medvedev when he was speaking well a couple of days ago i think it was the national teacher's day was he was presenting awards to the best teachers in russia he he said a couple of words about you you and again many said well it's a pity that those russian guys actually got their prize working abroad and he said i would like to see more and more russian scientists working in russia getting the same possibilities the same funding advantages and what do you feel the do you share the same concern with our president. i would say that you should you should do it more broadly i should say that we were shrewd in the in wide back to russia

not only russian scientists but we should in the wide the best scientists. back to russia and that that includes russian british american who else science is very different mission is international and you always get a war always want to get the best result and the best results are produced by the best people and you cannot rely on one nationality only in this in this process you have to you master in white the bastion for us well the really mentioned result of brain drain from russia is that russian scientists are increasingly uncritically sighted in world scientific press and in world scientific publications but since all these scientists are now abroad most of them are abroad does it mean that the

younger generation of russian scientists would may not be as successful as you are . two points just toward north all the russian side is broad there are huge number of from past in fairly good scientists who work in russia that's i totally disagree with you on this point and second as i said already exchange of scientists is not about things that's absolute can or practice brain drain is nor is not of both in the berthing is the is no a real us promises that scientists are coming back to russia and shoot him a sure russia from plastic school of science we should share it with the war but we also have to get something back from the war and we need to unwired best the best people and i don't think that. makes a big issue here constantin the russian government the kremlin has been pretty much

obsessed by nana technologies over the last couple of years and many people a journalist have been pretty sort of casting at there about this obsession with nanotechnology do you think that investing into nanotechnology is really the right thing to do for the russian government today. well i guess as you probably misread all this all this initiative. you always need a big flag and i call the the main idea behind this is it is to invest to technology in general and it's the correct things it will be absolutely wrong of course to invest into knowledge of knowledge ian forget completely about my critique knowledge of your own forgets about. and concentrate only about on this time minus nine profits. so invest in into college

as long as it was was some science is is a perfectly good idea e you said that she didn't even know the for the ten minutes ago the amount of the money will get within the prize does that mean that you are not at all interested in money and in business that you are you are not at all you and your colleagues are not at all interested in the commercial they use of graphene of putting it into it into well real life into gadgets and whatever. well look what. you cannot tell it's also for my colleagues who have students who own companies which are we should reach produce graphene who have nothing to do is that they those companies do do exist so some of my good friends and colleagues they do have some interest in in business. why we are interested in having

a good time in the lab. if it involves creation new type of devices from from graffiti we will do it so we are since we produced a prototype of liquid crystal display made of moon where the head of graph you you are absolutely right it will be very extremely very boring for me to sit for here and try and so. to make this this device work slightly better that will be to work for me but that's an important part of or of jobs and you mentioned spending time having good time in the land which we should say it is that it is well to really think for her for in life tell us about it what is having a good time with your friends in the lab what do you do what do you mean by having good time in the lab. ok don't take your own or. write

like picking up squash table and making make in first samples of graphene that's fantastic time. making some new type of devices that's fantastic so for for me the best one is a device which you can produce. in the day you just got an idea where you will produce a device and you measure it in the evening that's the. best one. and. any interest in arguments any unusual that's having a good time. constantin this graphene as far as i understand it is a unique unique two d. material a material with unique qualities is it really unique is it one of a kind or there may be other materials with similar or even better qualities yet to come yet to be invented. oh yes absolutely that's and i'm

a little bit concerned about this but we are so so much concentration on griffin i really would like to to look a little bit broader now but it's even griffin by itself already it's gives us so much fun that it's hard to. go somewhere else but i'm sure and probably we would suspect how to do it there are other materials there it means worse similar interests and problems as well russian kids have have lots of sellotape and we call scotch one of their well whatever so where where do we have to look for these new materials you said it may be other than graffiti where it what it is what does this do we have to look for it while we can you can think about combinations of graphene and some signals and that will that will produce you a new material and like just put into will gather on three or three

rough interns who gather the will be a new material or together so there are so instead of using sellotaped to split grafin you just put it back or you just use some none the glue if you want to glue it back together so that's just one just i just corrine you ideas well last question i have read in the press that the military our old ready getting increasingly interested in your invention have you heard anything about that do you think that can that get. this interest from from the side of the military can spoil your life make your life after. well we were gods i know if you guys from from the office of air force us and from and they all researched if there were nice guys and we do have funding from from them your goal for a conference you you see

a top talk from from even told that you did the show you were a performance of high frequency to the ministers and half of the screen is bland because they say that it is its information so yes there is some. drive from military as well i hate what it is and this. classified by. the recent. research which is which is doing most of them mostly by nearly three in the it's close thank you never still of russian russian scientists in manchester a nobel prize winner that will need some help getting these coming couple days it buying it to see though we didn't sound so please give an answer because thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind us that the fans in the myself was our guest today and we'll do that with more friends than comment on what's going on in the.