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hello again i was going to spotlight they interview on r.t. i'll do not mind today my guest is. not myself six years ago two russian scientists in manchester discovered a revolutionary material called think last week they will award a nobel prize in physics for what is likely to revolutionize nine attack engineering today again and not a soul of our packing their bags for stuff to collect their million pounds. of is joining us via satellite link from england. born in russia sent in the us all of his father was an engineer while his mother was a teacher after graduating with honors from the moscow physical technical university constantin started work at a scientific research center in the in moscow two years later he moved to the netherlands way he met another russian scientist on drug game and whose guidance he

continues to work the do physicists later moved to the university of manchester in the u.k. to continue their research six years ago no less so a fun game discovered graffiti for which they were awarded a euro physics prize there to receive the world's most prestigious scientific award the nobel prize for producing graphene which can rival silicon as a basis of computer chips so perhaps there's sense in letting silicon valley stay american but making griffin valley a more rushing creation at skolkovo. close to the sale of welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us. pleasure . first of all have you already got yourself a top seed elo maybe you got one and of the too much too many of our other problems . i would i would appreciate a midwife ok. well the russian government as far as

you know i'm sure is attempting to create a sort of a silicon valley here outside moscow well do you think it may be a better idea now to to to create new graphene value rather than silicon valley. from a graffiti is of called the a priority of words silicon valley would be you would be quite we would you would know you have published a paper describing. describing your your your invention your work well five years ago right so. far five years what have you been doing since work where are you now with your research is another good scene or is something else that was that was only the beginning what we showed in that paper is that we can produce this

material apparently. this material got so many from passing properties that we were still stellar in for the last six years i guess we're going to start it or people he's going to started from for the next ten twenty or you or your more years or so so you still are working on graphene and the same on the serious subject you're so so you know moving you're not moving i'd be measured if i were from the subject. on one fortunately norther and the main problem is that i guess the most interesting experiment is still had a fast and of course this process really. brings us a little bit behind on this in this rush to to get to those were nice experiments can you tell us what is this that made experiment frankly speaking for every single research. might be their own type of experiments because this this

material or has a number of very different but very even the simple properties the mechanical properties the optical properties the. electronic properties for me is the combination between mechanical and electronic properties which are the most interesting constantin you easier said a minute ago that you were in this in this paper of yours for which you got the nobel prize you said that you said i quote we can produce griffin but as far as i know you are not producing anything or you are interested in production or you just interested in research. while we do research on this material bugs in order to start our experiments we need to produce those samples first so of course the sample production reproduction of all this material is quite a port and very often the most important parts or for our research

you said that you have to produce enough material for your research but one of your colleagues in the united kingdom i quote said in this age of complexity with the machines like the super collider these guys managed to get the nobel prize using just sellotape so. is it true did you really that's. yes that's absolutely true and furthermore i guess a shipper sounds good at eighty percent of researchers across the world who do graffiti and it's actually it's a it's a huge subject you know they but they still use this. methods which you introduce introduced in two thousand and four and you also still use sellotape in your results yes. in most cases yes and don't like it in greek. you're healthy

a year do you have enough sellotape now or you still do you still have to do to pick pick pick it out out of garbage beds. room got an exclusive supply from a few companies ok now. why are you called garbage scientists you know this label garbage scientists is it is it really because beer because you you pulled your first samples are the garbage bin or what is it. yes probably and i totally don't don't don't come although nobody tells us brave enough to say to me two twenty phrases. totally are totally fine who is being called like this and so it's an interesting story we were gods it is indeed rooted our colleague alexa clearly who was working with us at the time. during experiments on as chair of the way how he clean draw fire from the throw in this cellar table with pieces of thin

pieces of graphite into the bin and basically what we've done we've picked a top and. made our first samples from from those that so so you don't regard this next day mad as being insulting to you know absolutely no i don't i don't care how old or people call and if you know can you tell us when did you realize that what you were doing is really a revolution in physics did you ever realizing it. well. you see we are quite lucky you know all the stuff we can afford to work result thinking about producing area lucian physics we can't afford to work just because we were really really like it and already the very first experiments are true we wish we had done it was was those samples made from those first tapes

we realize that we have something extremely interesting in our hands and you took us to probably easier or you win more to get the graph and samples bods the interesting physics you can see in the very. first experiments ok how many people except you and game contributed to this graphene research because as far as i know usually one or two people get the nobel prize but actually it's a it's a company of like dozens of people is it the case with you. oh yes here i was in that it was a pool of great researchers of fantastic people who were doing those first experiments you see i don't think that. the prize is due in just on the merits of the one experiment so rouer doing very interesting physics over the over the whole all over the years. in that we we actually i especially want to

think should be more of an integral or who've been working with us for for quite a long time and. also have a great pull off from tustin pigeon students and poles dogs who from all over the world with us but this science is no. this this this area so vast now that we rely you know experiments not on the on the on our results we do rely on the results of all the community and it is you know it consists of probably hundreds of labs across the world so are you going to split the million quid you hey going to get it yet is that it's well it's million dollars lee i. have so busy at the moment i didn't know or thought it's. thought about this and really come hard year ok

you're either a teacher and now your colleague andrew again said i quote that graphene has all the potential to change our life the same way plastics did in the twentieth century so do you think that the twenty first century will be there the the age of graffiti the age of game and know myself. oh yeah absolutely your feeling changed our lives can completely dramatically so we've had fantastic time over the last years and we arrive to this small one which is which is quite good as well but seriously i think it's. it does have a great world potential we still don't realize. how large is this potential i don't want to speculate about a place in silicon or who is with griffin there are folks who more can complicated

questions than. the as a said already there are quite a few properties of this material which are unique the mechanical teco electronic and it will find its applications. because that's you never sold off the nobel prize winner in physics this year spotlight will be back shortly right after the break so stay with us. wealthy british roles in the. markets. find out what's really happening to the global economy for

a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines join into. leap. discover its museum leap. leap. with the wild. and become free and the. new leaf. welcome back to spotlight i am algor now than just a reminder that my guests today via satellite link from from manchester is constantin number still of the man who was awarded nobel prize in physics this year

. consensus well i know that you both you. and regain the colleagues you have just mentioned telling us about. most of them are russians and i know that you even work at the so-called russian floor at the inverse of manchester although about stories now that by russians so you are a british citizen game is a dutch citizen but do you consider yourself still to do to be russian or or british or i don't know european a what do you think oh. i definitely consider myself russian. i'm british as well. of a lot to russian education to stare. and sounds absolutely. but you chose to go to continue your work in england

because what. because the university you're in now gives you more research possibilities what else what if you compare well you already said in a couple of interviews that that the russian system of training in physics is the best in the world but after you trained compare russian and european british what are the differences. first of all let me let me tell you that it is absolutely normal practice that scientists go from one lab to another to learn different techniques and obtain different skills i can tell you that if you got ph d. in holland for instance he warmed be able to continue as opposed to get there because you would have to while or you would have to go away from the counter ok there are some some some some restrictions of course applied. was the the major

difference or probably one of the one of the good things for me about. western system of science is its openness and so so easy to move from one university to to another and definitely help in transfer in the knowledge of the skills and the technology and it's it's it's one of the key issues in a more them science well president medvedev when he was speaking well a couple of days ago i think it was the national teachers day was he was presenting awards to the best teachers in russia he he said a couple of words about you you and again many said well it's a pity that those russian guys actually got their prize working abroad and he said i would like to see more and more russian scientists working in russia getting the same possibilities the same funny advantages and well do you feel the do you share

the same concern with our president. i would say that it's did you should you should do it more broadly i should say that. in the in wired's back to russia not only russian scientists but we should in the wide the best scientists. back to russia and that that includes russian british american who else science is very different mission is international and you always get a war always want to get the best result and the best results are produced by the best people and you cannot rely on one nationality only in this in this process you have to you master in white the bastion for us well the really mentioned result of brain drain from russia is that russian scientists are increasingly uncritically

sighted in the world scientific press and in world scientific publications but since all these scientists are now abroad most of them are abroad does it mean that the younger generation of russian scientists would may not be as successful as you are. two points just toward moore's old russian side his broad there are huge number of from past and for good scientists who work in russia that's i totally disagree with you on this point and second as i said already exchange of scientists is not about things that's absolute can or practice brain drain is nor is not about think the berthing is the is no a real us promises that scientists are coming back to russia and shoot him a sure russia fantastic school of science we should share it with the war but we also have to get something back from the war and we need to unwired best the best

people and i don't think that nationality makes a big issue here because that in the russian government the kremlin has been pretty much obsessed by nana technologies over the last couple of years and many people a journalist has been pretty circa asked think that there and now this obsession with nanotechnology do you think that investing into nanotechnology is really the right thing to do for the russian government today. well i guess as you probably misread all this all this initiative. you always need a big flag and i call the the main idea behind this is it is to invest to technology in general and it's the correct things are it will be absolutely wrong of course to invest into knowledge because knowledge and forget completely evolves micro technology and forgets about adults in technology and concentrate only about

on this ten minus nine preference. so invest in technology as long as it was was some science is is a perfectly good idea e you said that she didn't even know the for the ten minutes ago the amount of the money will get within about twice that that means that you are not at all interested in money and in business nature you are not at all you and your colleagues are not at all interested in the commercial they use of graphene of putting it into is into well real life into gadgets and whatever. well look what. you cannot tell it's also from my colleagues who have students who own companies which are we should reach produced graphene who

have nothing to do is that they those companies do do exist so some of my good friends and colleagues they do have some interest in in business. and we're interested in having a good time in the lab. if it involves creation new type of devices from from graffiti we would do it so we are since we produced a prototype of liquid crystal display made of woman we had over heard of graphene you are absolutely right it would be very extremely very boring for me to sit for here and try and sue. to make this this device work slightly better that will be towards me but that's an important part of or of jobs and you mentioned spending time having good simon the land which we should set is that it is a natural really good thing for her for in life tell us about it what is having

a good time with your friends in the lab what do you do what do you mean by having a good time in the lab. ok don't take your honor. like picking up squash table and making make in first examples of graphene that's fantastic time. making some new type of devices that's fantastic of for me the best one is a device which you can produce. in the day you just got an idea where you will produce a device and you measure it in the rain that's the. best one. and. any interest in arguments any unusual having a good time for us constantin this graphene as far as aniston is a unique unique two d. material a material with unique qualities is it really unique is it one of a kind or there may be other materials with similar or even better qualities yet to

come yet to be invented. oh yes absolutely that's and i'm a little bit concerned about this but we are so so much concentration on griffin i really would like to to look a little bit broader now but it's even griffin by itself already it's gives us so much fun that it's hard to. go somewhere else but i'm sure and probably we would suspect how to do it there are other materials there reads worse similar interests and problems as well russian kids have have lots of cell a tape and we call scotch one of their well whatever so we're where do we have to look for these new materials you said it may be other than graffiti where it what it is what does this do we have to look for it while we can you can think about

combinations of graphene and some signals and that will that will produce you a new material and like just put into will gather on three or three rough interns who gather the it will be a new material or together so there are so instead of using sellotaped to split graffiti you just put it back or you just use some non the glue if you want to glue it back together so that's just one just i just corrine you ideas well last question i have read in the press that the military our old ready getting increasingly interested in your invention have you heard anything about that do you think that can that get. this interest from from the side of the military can spoil your life make your life after. well we were god i know if you guys from from the office of air force or us and from no research there there were nice guys

and we do have funding from from them your goal for a conference you you see a top talk from from even told that you did the show you were a performance of high frequency to the ministers and half of the screen is bland because the say that it is it's restricted information so yes there is some. drive from. as well i hate what it is in this. classified by. the recent. research which is which is doing more than mostly by nearly three in the it's contents you never saw all of the russian the russian scientists in manchester a nobel prize winner that will need some help getting these coming couple days it buying it to see though we don't sound so please give the time to those thirteen thank you very much for being with us and just to remind us that there are plenty

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