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more ridiculous if that's even possible and you know i wasn't really sure that we were ever reach a day where the threat of killing your puppy would be in a political campaign ad but thanks to the most vicious campaign season ever we have reached that day take a look. bill please i am a republican but i don't care for the man you can. start . to feel free. to think that it might be the other. oh my goodness popular all going to die if you elect that man i mean ok it sounds like it could be a bit of a drastic bill but it makes it sound like bill brady is going to be gassing each single little puppy himself like the puppy holocaust the only thing missing from
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that ad was somebody shouting puppy killer and injurious love how the ad featured super cute dogs with their owners we do have a love their dog who hasn't received the typical brighten your day cute little puppy clip from your. that is just too cute i feel better already even after the realisation that our political system has stooped to new lows and now back to original time a group of fact checks ads rated this one by pat quinn is only half truths but in the history of t.v. ads i think this one is up there i mean hey you can get people to vote for you by
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scaring them if you can't get them to offer you sorry by scaring them with terrorists or taxes all you have to do is threaten to kill their dogs i mean it's so obvious i can't we haven't seen as like this before and it just proves the ridiculously insane ads are bipartisan because pat quinn is a democrat makes you feel even better so the tonight's tool time award goes to pat quinn the governor of illinois. you know it's really good to know that while the world suffers through the greatest recession over fifty years the world's wealthiest citizens aren't suffering at all in fact they are thriving and willing and able to flaunt it india is more cash on body is making quite a splash in international media c m bonnie is the richest man in india he currently ranks as the fourth richest man in the world and he's the chairman and managing editor director of reliance industries which is india's largest enterprise the private sector his total wealth is valued at a cool twenty nine billion u.s. dollars so i guess it's really no surprise that a body decided to build
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a house fit for his earnings the business tycoon is just build a house in mumbai that is valued at one billion dollars that's billion billion with a b. just to make sure he has heard that making it the most expensive house in the entire world now we just got the specs on this mansion that he named and tilia after a mythical island and frankly it is overwhelming and a little bit sickening the house has twenty seven stories it's over five hundred and seventy feet tall which makes it taller than the statue of liberty it also has the basics of you know any humongous house health club a gym a sauna pools a ballroom lounges and a fifty seater cinema but waits there is even more the first few floors of the house are solely dedicated to the one hundred and sixty car garage that has a full mechanic station and if you're not up for driving around move by traffic just take a chopper from one of his three heller pads these are just
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a few of the specs on his crit trust me we could dedicate a full ten minutes just to elaborate the embellishments alone but i just couldn't bring myself to do it but the best part of it all is that this skype scraper that he calls home is only home for himself his wife and their three children now i absolutely understand working hard making your money and wanting to be able to enjoy that but a one billion dollar house. especially in a country like india where so much of the population lives in abject poverty that's just tacky and it is beyond tacky and it just goes to show that as the rich become richer so does everything that they invested including their homes. now lawmakers in the lower house of parliament in france have just approved a bill that well i think it's radical to say the least if passed it would strip french nationality from foreigners who had acquired citizenship and who were convicted of violent crimes against police and other officials yet i mean is no
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matter how long you lived in that country if you did something wrong enough you are no longer a citizen and it's representative of the anti immigrant sentiment spreading all over the world and the crazy thing is that well it's not just france in europe it's talking about it see back in may senator joe lieberman proposed a similar citizenship stripping law that would apply to all americans not just naturalized ones if they were to join for a foreign terrorist organization these laws really problem solvers or is this just a sign of poor leadership and an excuse to get around the laws and strip people of their rights well joining me in studio to discuss that is attorney jordan secular director of international operations for the american center for law and justice and from our new york studio we have immigration attorney and former federal prosecutor michael wildes managing partner at wild and gentlemen nice to have both of you back on the show again we have this debate where george negus started with you last time so i want to jordan i'm good michael duffy too nice to each other
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michael i'm going to start with you do you make fighting there. do you think laws like this are a step in the right direction i mean if you ask me these are some these are some pretty drastic actions that are being taken. i think you alone are that it has to be a limited remedy so not to terrorists to people who have lied on their citizenship applications where you can show through fraud and the status in the same place but it is still conceived to think that you can take citizenship away from somebody and mission by the government of france that they can deal with their problems that they effectively would put a band. cancer if they're criminals that we don't why we're going to deport them we're going to start with the gypsies then maybe we'll start with the jews then maybe we'll start with the muslims it is just poor judgment and historically we see countries try to strip people or label people in ways that do not bring out the diamond in the rough very special diversity we in america need right now to help
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mend our economy it's a slippery slope and a very dangerous track to take particularly in this country with a different vision of us citizenship who cares where crime happened if the punishment is meted out properly if the punishment of somebody is murder is done where that person loses their life or sits in jail for the rest of their life their citizenship is not edition well that year my question here is because i mean what really what difference does it matter if you take away someone's citizenship they still get the exact same sentence what's happening in france is different than what would ever happen united states first of all we can both say that you could never have a law that just applied to people who were naturalized in the u.s. that would violate the that and i must say that our that we are here that's why i don't think that french law will survive the european union challenge the council of europe challenge the europe had already has a lot of crazy things there are other people are being more conservative but it's what i think it goes back to is not the french law so much because it would never
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be applied in the u.s. could not be drafted but in the united states we do have laws on the books that if you serve a foreign military the government can prove by a preponderance of the evidence and you lose your citizenship what joe lieberman was trying to do this is different french law the french laws about deporting people joe lieberman's proposition was well the foreign military doesn't really cover foreign terrorist groups and so what happens when you catch someone on the a battlefield but they're not technically part of the government's foreign military they're the there are terrorist there al-qaeda but they're an american citizen if you don't mirandized them then you can't use that and use what they said in court so his it was actually a reservation that a court when you when you decide to torture that well you know if they so even if you just want to iraq. if there is going to is an excuse there is no problem by the way and that is what they do that is the start extract of leading from there what they do is they start expanding the laws no this day in the united states we do in america today because no one no one is really i don't know if you actually look at the wall that's on the book it's very difficult the last i was really used
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successfully with the nazis the government has to prove not only did you join the foreign military and the government the court will assume that that was voluntary but you have to prove your actions of intent on your wish to kill him you also have started saying no but you said you know this right michael the person you have to prove that the person had the intent to relinquish their citizenship that's a pretty high bar just because they don't happen to want to do that lawyer jordan is that you want them to go further than that to be able to do i have one people where i am when the conversation is brought up and it becomes something you are debating here the regular every day then it sounds like there are people out there that wouldn't want this to have i think definitely would tear down with tears it sounds like there is stigmatizing or there at least scapegoating immigrants immigrants are right now in a world that's facing very troubled economies the how should i say this and you know and not being politically correct they have become right now the pawn in major international games where france has allowed communities to expand beyond control and did not have proper immigration thought where washington and our nation here
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has a deafening silence in washington and it's not facing that challenge all we hear coming out from conservative pundits you'll forgive me jordan is ultimately individuals that are trying to stop people and remove people rather than fixing the problem what i what i already saw with the difference with mike they were not about illegal immigration we're talking about naturalized citizen like to tell us their i mean how if terrorism also has a problem that we're showing right how do laws like this happen stripping people of their citizenship make us more say our right to two things first of all it doesn't apply just to immigrants so michael's wrong in this characterization we would never adopt a law in the us nor to be held constitutional that would only apply. people who are naturalized that's part one part two is you just as usual is that a dangerous thing to do if you are right now let's say for terrorism right now it's just what it has to be i have proof that you helped an illegal guys i'm out of the ordinary you just have a great ally next that would like but you're also going to get your citizenship like i was just advantage alone because i can see you guys but let me just say this
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there are plenty of mechanisms in place of a person has a green card i spend my whole day getting visas and green cards for people if they have a green card and they commit a crime that's moral turpitude or an aggravated felony we have mechanisms in place to deport them but that's not what they are going to do on their name out there like you want to around the world and they are not banished from their country but we are having this was only about his legs and we are the usa are going to go even this here in the military pocker see it is completely wrong to remove people from a country when they serve their debt to society so it's ok if they deserve their end because that here is an organization with going to have a list of organizations there are terrorist organizations so you know it's out there you'll probably see what you tell us all right you know if you are just that's what a lot of this means you have responded well this is about terrorists and me and france are claiming that this life main thing is. if you tell me this at the application first i'm sorry yeah well just to me if you can't answer the question i'm sorry if you don't need various ideas people sure. this isn't my issue is so if
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the government does put a law like this on the books i just don't have faith that my government isn't going to strip innocent people of their citizenship because i feel like they have a very very bad track record now after the past ten years after nine eleven after guantanamo bay haven't we learned anything why would we give our government these powers. it's like the seat belt law where people extrapolated that if we give police officers in the united states the law the right to stop people who are wearing seat belts that use that law to say well i stop them first and then i saw they had drugs in the car that they were going to use that as an excuse this is a government. i teach and often say this that was given power by the people from john lennon to the founding fathers and further we have always believed that the power is vested with the people and ultimately the people in this case should be very cautious alone and when they give the government the right to take away citizenship we have mechanisms in place to deprive people of the privilege of
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getting citizenship and we have mechanisms in place to deport people up until they have citizenship i do not trust unless the standards are strenuous and unless they are extreme and it is it isn't everything is either very well running out of time it is over spirit here in the united states is a very strenuous stands it's why it does not happen often i think the most likely next step would be terrorism it would not be something like what happened in france if congress wanted to pass that similar law and add that to the immigration and naturalization and they could but they'd have to go into court and prove that you killed a police officer because you want to lose your u.s. citizenship they would never be able to do that ok well they start with baby steps look at the application form alone to apply for citizenship they don't even have questions they're talking about where you are not see a prostitute or communist i don't even try i apply terrorism so i am i am a naturalized u.s. citizen so this is also you know this affects me personally which is why i take such an interest in this life i want to thank you both for joining me thank you all right still to come tonight it will probably go down as one of the craziest
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political debates of the year christine o'donnell and chris coons debated in delaware last night and some o'donnell's comments in the debate they were beyond strange they were so we're going to try to dissect what the hell she was talking about with wonkette servant causing next. wealthy british style. it's time to. go already. market why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy with my stronger no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to conjure reports on our. forty two thousand americans die each year six thousand.
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seven hundred thousand people. and thirty two thousand will kill themselves cancer in all its forms kills five hundred sixty thousand of us here part is easy the more devastating it kills over eight hundred seventy thousand americans every year. yesterday we told you about the media frenzy surrounding the chilean miners rescue reporters and photographers were literally fighting each other all for the sake of getting that golden first interview now the very intense media environment had the media trampling tense fighting to make the most grandiose comparisons but so why was this coverage so intense exactly i know one thing is for sure there was a lot of money riding on it an article out of the guardian gives details about just
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how far the b.b.c. was willing to go according the b.b.c.'s own editor john williams the company blew its a lot of the miners coverage spending over one hundred and fifty nine thousand dollars they allowed themselves around seventy thousand for the story but hopes they accidentally one hundred thousand over budget well what can you expect right they spared no expense here by sending twenty six people to the scene and look i love the story as much as the next person but come on twenty six people that is just not necessary b.b.c. is defending its actions by saying that viewers wrote in expressing their appreciation for the round the clock coverage. but there will be consequences for those viewers in the future as williams himself wrote their financial situation is it's serious it turns out of the b.b.c. is going to have to cut down their coverage of other major international events like the g twenty which will only get one lonely reporter never mind that it's
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arguably the most important international meeting of the year now they only get one little reporter and i know it's not as inspiring as the miners the coverage of the miners did take in a record amount of viewers and it ranks as the station's third best day in ratings history but it sounds like from here on out they're screwed so i do hope it was worth it. ok so we've been showing you some ads as a representation of just how weird and vicious how just plain stupid this campaign season is getting china is the enemy puppy killers you would have thought that you'd heard it all by now but oh no oh no it got way better last night as christine o'donnell and chris coons held a debate for the senate seat in delaware it almost belonged in one of those credit card commercials you know filling up the tank to make it to the debate forty dollars mcdonald's drive thru on the way to the debate twelve dollars a bumper sticker to make clear who you support two dollars
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a watching christine o'donnell make a complete fool of herself on national television that is just priceless and despite the fact that this is like the fiftieth time that she's done it she just never seems to get old now going to give you the details on that in a minute but first let me introduce my guests before i get carried away joining me from new york is blogger sarah bennett caza sarah great to have you back on you know it's been a little while we've talked about the sarah pailin the sharon angle is i don't quite remember if we talked about christine o'donnell before but i do want to start with her today we're going to get to the other ladies. i've got and i'm kind of speechless i guess let's first just play the clip of what she said last night. when we were fighting the soviets over there in afghanistan in the eighty's and ninety's we did not finish the job so now we have a responsibility to finish the job and if you're going to make these politically correct statements that it's casting us too much money you are threatening the security program of this topic let's just get there. do you think to the get that
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we can't fight the soviets to be more because there's no war so we have to fight and we can't finish the job because the taliban isn't on our side this time around i mean come on what is this woman talking about i think she was just hearkening back to the good old days that exist only in her head remember when in one thousand nine hundred three the soviets were fighting us in afghanistan and also they were unicorns and flying monkeys those were the best days of our lives alone she's just imagining them. i imagine that the reason we were fighting them too is because they're you know they like to masturbate or something and that's a sin and that's why their enemies they love it they adore it that's what afghans and flying monkeys are known for username she's ridiculous and i love it i never want her to stop talking on t.v. ever well you know what she actually kind of did stop talking at one point in the debate last night because they asked her
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a question about supreme court cases and if she could tell them a ruling that was made recently that she disagreed with and she was kind of stumped let's listen to that one. so what opinions of late that have come from our high court do you most object to. give me a specific one i'm sorry actually i can't because i need you to tell me which ones you object to. i'm very sorry right off the top of my head i know that there are a lot but i'll put it up on my web site i promise. i promise you it is she five years old come on. she's going to put it up on facebook i think she's going to write about how she's still pissed about brown versus board of education like that's the last supreme court case she's the only one she's ever heard of quite frankly yeah well you know the funny thing is that we actually checked her web site today to see if if she had kept true to her promise and she did it apparently even
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the people that she's hired to write things for her and make up her opinions for her they couldn't even think of a supreme court case that they didn't agree with recently which is kind of sad but you know the funny thing is that that moment really was a little eerie because it resembled something that we've seen before want to play another clip for you. what other supreme court decisions do you disagree with. well let's see there's. of course in the great history of america there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every american and. the great sarah pailin this is this is like chris you know it's done go ahead go ahead you did this in the way you took us in the way back machine alone i felt like i was stuck through time and space to two double zero eight which was a delightful year and yeah they were like sisters so are you saying that i guess i
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shouldn't be upset because when i first saw this christine o'donnell debate i got a little upset i mean when you and i talked about how politicians are playing the stupid card these days and for some reason it's working in her first was kind of funny now some of them might actually get elected but then if sarah palin did it in two thousand and eight i just am i scared for no reason. no i don't think you're scared for no reason i think there is authentically a fear that we should be feeling and i think that as much fun as it is for me as a comedian to crack up and laugh and crack jokes on these people it's important to realize that you're absolutely right alina she's very well could be the next senator from the great state of delaware so i think that it is funny until somebody actually wins and that's when the sobbing starts well ok i want to show you a new billboard we also spoke last time about how some americans thought obama was a muslim and that they couldn't really decide is evil christian or is the evil
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muslim someone's gone ahead and decided they put up a new billboard that has obama as a bad a terrorist a gangster and a gay man and we're showing our viewers right now what do you say to that it's all it's all there on one billboard. they should have also dressed him up as shock and maybe like one of the bad vampires from twilight and possibly whatever that thing is and paranormal activity come on people it's so blatant it's so obvious if you're just taking somebody who you don't like because sure i'm sure you disagree with his policies but also because he's a blunt gonna freak you out and you're just dressing him up in things that you hate i don't like cheese i'm not going to dress a picture of christine o'donnell up in swiss. well i mean there are better uses of photo shocked i am i am with you there are people are that stupid
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they're not they're giving you four different options of why you should hate obama anyway we got to go there but always a pleasure talking to you and you know maybe you should dress up as christine o'donnell for hollowing in or something. and again that was director of the day before we go do you see the clip spreading on the web today bill o'reilly said on the show on a.b.c. the view that muslims killed us on nine eleven so co-host joy behar and whoopi goldberg both freaked out and they both walked off set so here's my tweet to joy will be props ladies but why play so nice. i would just kick to figure that right that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in make sure you guys come back tomorrow and smith will be back on to give us his two cents on the week's craziest stories in the meantime though forget to become a fan of the ilona show on facebook and follow us on twitter and if you missed any of tonight's show or any other nights you can always catch it on the you tube dot com slash the want to show repose the news interviews as well as the show in its entirety coming up next is the news of the latest headlines from the u.s.
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you're watching on t.v. broadcasting live from moscow welcome to the program russia and venezuela there are focusing their energies on getting closer and that includes a raft of time from nuclear power to military development here chavez continues his ninth visit to the country with a meeting with president medvedev later on friday let's get more from our correspondent habits. what can we expect from today's talks. will carry out that one of the recurring themes that will be it for this is the food. for gulf coast all the way their relationship to eighty. eight. yeah it's a state. that has played it was one of the very few punches to. the.

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