but. internationally widespread moralized when you speak about international events so what's the greatest the most absurd lie the most evident one that you have come across quite. another so i'm going with that in general yes and in general without the movie or in relation to venice some of those and of all the lies well there are so many lies i would say and i would make a selection of these lies when if you speak about venice well a then these are the lies that i suffered these are the lies that i felt for example new ones so many times it was repeated that. chavez was creating even before i became president that i was creating the.

colombian and then a swell and guerrillas quads. and that was repeated a lot in the press on the radio going to the military that's when i decided to put out for the first time and only you know there was a real magic and create a. design that i had a lot of fun weapons and i was and during the orinoco bay to arm these groups that was supposedly creating with the. before it was repeated so many times it was. everywhere that's once and when i was in a small office. and a journalist from london called me and i got the call quicker than if i just answered the phone yes me if i was yes that's me can i help you are you in caracas yes i am your pain woman from i have information he said that you are one of. the organizing with tips and armed security organizing something big i

was laughing a laws but these are lies that are actually moving towards a tragedy. and not long goal someone was repeating it in venice well that president chavez is a crazy man when about america and that was the first notice in the election campaign this year and ninety a. very seriously valan analysts would say that i was grazing kind of the child was raising. also look up some things and i was married. and my wife and they were talking about my wife that i was sitting down and leaving us free space for someone to leave a free charitable and they were talking absolutely seriously about and that's absurd that's one of the lower most absurd things that are hard but there are so

many things that we need to categorize them. and there are some projects of cooperation very important ones for probably both countries for example about a factory of bicycles for. children for women board bicycles and it was published mr and they were saying that it was not about bicycles that isn't in the open in this building where the factory was situated where you know in reaching uranium up and i'm interested you. were talking about this supposed supposedly serious people but you are times or some european newspapers that are you know very serious people they were desperate to film to just transform into something that i was not and transform your life my projects

and to what they were no because they're afraid of what we represent they're trying to transform it into something else just to put an end up becoming how simone deliver used to saying two hundred years ago one hundred eighty years ago. they say that they will leave are not for believe or not the man himself but the idea that you represent this they are afraid of a fire that's can come out of and. once i had an interview with a journalist in the meeting. very experienced while i'm sure your experience as well was about barbara walters from the united states at the end of that interview she asked me who is your counted in the u.s. elections. there was when bush was being reelected and al gore was the other candidate by the way they live here more without actually

robs him of his president saying. well you know about of. this i said something that. bothered her but that came from the inside no not all of them none of the two. that's what i said if i were going to be american i would be the candid i want to win elections that's something that's maybe a little like and show a game but. once we were walking around bronx and we were visiting some neighborhoods and there was one christian schorsch and i was giving a speech. and then they sometimes do all the events that we organize for example the lights would go on and they were. afraid of what once

people feel and what they try to speak about from the heart because i speak from the heart and with my eyes flooding with of course i wouldn't be able to become a candidate in the united states that would have killed me like luther king. the true leader of the united states used to have i would go off of wars that would have been a great threat but at the same time a great change. so what are what is a cause for them to do what. the united states yes. it's very difficult to find a way out for them to maginot. because. the to the destructive power. that is being formed in the pit of us you know the perversion and the capacity of hurting we evolve is crazy to listen or

miss and. to to hurt not only the whole world but their own society no longer go because there was this information about some with all. like maybe something some in-situ had to organize and they were asking young people. who was bitten beethoven and most of them said it was a dog. not long ago i also read another report. by some us university me. investigations that. ninety five percent. of. the money that is circling around us has something to do with cocaine if i can just take a look at what is happening to this society what it has come to with i'm going to

home that they have been. i think that they see everything upside down or at least part of the world and there are so many more people there and there are dictatorial but it's legislations there and you know that there's tyranny of true. or oppression and there present the true democracy so it's difficult to imagine the destiny of the society and of course we need to hope for the better and we need to positively know that one day. soon. the winds from the south will come and could calm and change. the north of the americas. i am talking about the whole world and general solomon about hurricanes. from from africa for examples as beautiful

continent where supposedly we all call from according to the investigations everything comes from there and that's where the winds of change good karma. you very often. on the used world some words that you've heard or someone showed to you. so you look like a person that is always memorizing recollecting the wisdom that you come across and if you had to choose of all the advisors in the morals the lessons that you've been given what would be the the most precious one. actually since i was a child and i'm grateful for that to live where for a while where i was born and how i was born when i was just a small village how. it was all made out of earth and.

clay my mother was. and my father there were amazing people around me. some of us you know and they they made me love with the books i cannot live without books and. for example you cannot live without oxygen but i cannot live without books either i love reading studying analyzing and of course i believe that that's that was my obligation to be here to be where i wasn't a society to study the things that were happening in the world with. the reflections of famous serious people who take a look at fidel castro and he is constantly studying at his age you still studying and learning. for example and since. the days of my. since i was

a child since my childhood i was. there was an african person working with my father we didn't know his name we just call him african and my grandmother was and in some mix i'm a mixture of wives and little indians and blacks i remember one of my teachers. general a philosopher i. went out of prison and he looks for me and he found me one day and he told me he was a true philosopher. thing and he was imagining things so were not visible to others. he was teaching me when i was a cadet. at the age of seventeen eighteen i've always admired me he no works for me as an assessor. once he said to me well go.

look at it even if you don't want it though we were talking about the years of where. they're at the age of thirty nine i was in a prison and i so i went out and found me. that and he said i was only one to say to you one thing. even if you don't believe me you're going to become president of this country and he said to me so you need to do a lot of things and study a lot and he gave me a box of books and he said you need to become an old man before your time you have to become more mature. and i will never forget this advice to become mature and ahead of time. to assume this great responsibility been blessed with. grandmother i had gotten up and norma's

willingness to. to come out of jail and open new paths to everything push me to become the presidential candidate and then win the elections the first ones the second ones the third ones and now it looks like i'm going to win the fourth ones in several years to the gerund see the security of the democratic revolution in venice well and the development of socialism in a swell a but it has to be ahead of time it was like an obligation another one that i remember. one of these days i was very tired and. it was several years ago with what happened there they're making me signs i mean they were gholson so i went to cuba it was working vincent fidel said to me that i look tired because he is

a great psychologist he knows me so well and he's now my doctor and he even sends me pills and vitamins or whatever and you know if you i love them i'll say small bills that it's like taking it like drinking ten bottles of wine so i'm i don't like wine so i take these pills vitamins so he said to me maybe three years ago i see that you're tired and i want to recommend you a place. so he sent me to a place. where he used to go with her in a cigar and. so she made me go there no democracy that was the last the house where she used to live before going to believe and he you made me. i know that you're coming out of one almost home while one's walking around in the mountains i was very tired to see them not just physically my spirit

was tired of them but i'm numb and then there was a man on a mule in the mountain i suppose only came out. but he saw me and he was not surprised. he saw me calmly. got down when i went and with. he's greeted me and i said yes hello but i gave him my head he said i live up in the mountains and what do you do for work i said before the longer i'm an invention list i'm a priest my sense of the within reach of this and a villager who seemed as if he were reading my soul he said to me i want to exhort so you're sort of i make sourcing you go to continue without getting tired ever told me that i will never forget that meeting there was

something magical in the mountain. now you're no longer tired of course i was full of energy i went out of flying from there like this and even the birds cuba's a special place a magical place my daughter also says to me it's the island of the giants cuba and the map of the marshes allow me and other question i say that's you're pressed for time. but it's inevitable and so i ask you this question that if you had a possibility to travel in time and for example we're talking about the year twenty fifth how would you imagine. the life of latin american people first of all. time. according to the. office is there would be nine billion people in the world that's that's going to be

a lot more difficult to hold than what we have right now russia venice well. i'm any other countries are preparing creating the conditions so that our children and our grandchildren could live in this world and the conditions. that would be full of dignity you know how would i or imagine let's in america and the twenty fifth if would be free but i mean otherwise it will be free and it will be even before that i'm not going to be there anymore but there will be new generations. i'm sure that this century is going to happen look at this or that way just like general. said i know that you lived and argentina for several times for several years. he

once. in the twenty first century when. we will maybe going to get to it. will be either united or will be just what you know home to you and me the centuries here and we're not united and we're being dominated destroyed by the domination so to answer your question in twenty fifteen so you don. we will be united and liberated that's how i imagine it and i believe that while we just like walt whitman said that it would be great. i'm from here so you know i mean i am here with this mystery i am sure. and i'm sure that america will be free and so how do you imagine the role of russian.

ok well it's going to be a great role for the balance in the whole world so he will live with great sadness and really only latin america. to see the collapse of the united states of its union address reform and that's when became the revolution of the people. i mean. we live to this fall of the u.s. ceasar and now i'm in the dark you. know i'm here in moscow. and there remember how we saw this post soviet russia on its knees to remove the top of the but then weighs a song like him or puts it meaning out of nowhere and i met him and two thousand and one and new york he was just. there and there was a meeting and we spoke for about ten minutes and he told me to. come to

moscow was like to see you in moscow to keep talking and he and i and several months later i was in moscow and he invited me to his residence it was very called outside and we were walking for i'm going to make several hours in the night and. he gave me a cold and. he said to me i don't know if everything is going to come true what we've talked about but we're going to become friends and that's when this path opened up the doors only and now we're continuing it with major means we're holding when i was. younger i was dreaming of coming to moscow one day and seeing the soviet union it was not possible but it doesn't matter now is russia back again on its feet and. i know and i believe that russian and speeds well it's called sure it's the devil exists history it's leaders it's new leaders are going to keep

assuming this responsibility and contributing as it's a great country. to make the world is really truly free and. and what about this visit in particular what are your impressions. our that we keep going the rightwing. that we are constructing the future. but you know we signed so many agreements very important agreements and. guess agriculture transportation. we're going to. coffee bananas coke or here. we spoke about so many things with the president and other people and i am leaving this country with the feeling that it's. deeper and deeper the relationship between our countries and

we're going to continue it this way. strengthening our ties with side this action plan two thousand and ten two thousand and fourteen and that's our obligation to say to win the elections in twenty twelve. at the end of twenty twelve so it's a group that we have no other choice than to keep going in open this future thank you so mind. i gotta go already because of the put in is waiting for me but i'm inviting you to caracas. it will be nice for you to see the latin american venice well that you love because you live there is your simon voting is there you know. we have had the presence of the president of the bolivian republic of venice well. thank you for being with. venezuelan president

hugo chavez there giving an exclusive live interview to us here in our to take a short break here on our team will be back at the top of the hour with more news.

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don't comb. mapping out a partnership the venezuelan president is in moscow to thrash out plans for closer ties with russia. and the first ever post war exit adolf hitler's life opens in berlin days after a new poll reveals one in ten germans want to see a return to a ruling fewer. also are closer team visits we need to know grip a city steeped in history in northwest process to discover how local people use the area gifts of nature. seven pm in the russian capital mrs r t coming to. first stop is in moscow as

russia and venezuela are energising cooperation in areas for nuclear power to arms deals and oil production president medvedev welcome to his guests in the kremlin where the leaders put pen to paper and signed several kids deals alice had reports . on friday presidents but that is the on chavez signs to stop agreements pledging but actually cooperation is a huge range of speeds up until the year twenty four. cheering at this meeting both leaders were great pains to stress the importance of the venezuelan the russian relationship indeed president the dead of himself even to the fact that back in two thousand and nine venezuela was one of very few countries to support the russian backed pendants wake up and south possess yeah didn't help that together with venezuela russia was helping to create a new world's problems you know us here even you feel like russia and venezuela would like to see a new.