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lists chose to focus on the head leader the head leaker julian of songe rather than the content of the actual leaks themselves so can we call this a major media fail and we get professor christopher chambers thoughts on the following story and then a federal court ruled yesterday that the u.s. could keep all of the information on the bog or imprisoned in afghanistan a secret so how can the u.s. even try to spread his goodwill around the muslim world when we still have secret prisons and secret prisoners in their country and we just or a dollar to the window afghanistan war veteran gigolo barito will join me in just a moment to hash it all out then with the us elections just a week away conservatives are doing their best to scare the public with and new up and rising group called the new elite right wingers like glenn beck and mike huckabee claim that this group is out to get you america does weird things like yoga and they don't watch nascar so they actually a threat and americans really buying this we're going to speak with comedian and political commentator sam cedar and this week marks the tenth anniversary of the
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international space station the home to over two hundred people and cost over one hundred billion dollars to build we're going to sit back to sit down with commercial space pioneer jeff remember at the end of the show and this monumental international adventure but first today's top story. so what do you do when you have a vast and very expensive homeland security bureaucracy with not that much to do now there hasn't been a terrorist attack attack on america since two thousand and one of course we've lived through endless terror alerts we all know those flight delays that kept us from getting to our families and christmas but feel if any have resulted in uncovering a real terrorist and so the f.b.i. has resorted to creating terrorists in cases where they couldn't find any you see they solicit muslim americans and spend a month working on them with various schemes to take up the so-called jihad against our country it's called entrapment and it was a major issue in
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a recent new york city case known as the new burg for archies marina portnoy's finds out whether this is a case of homegrown terror or manufactured crimes take a look. may two thousand and nine according to the f.b.i. the four men intended to carry out their planned day for african-american muslims are arrested we have to say sorry paraded in front of new york news cameras presented as the faces of homegrown terrorism even if it was a. jewish facilities here in the bronx it also takes on a military aircraft. a terrifying plot the f.b.i. claims to have thwarted the suspects quickly dubbed the new book for our poor illiterate ex conflicts with neither passports nor licenses no direction by a foreign entity or a real terrorist group instead it direction came from shahid hussain a pakistani immigrant on the f.b.i. payroll reportedly paid nearly one hundred thousand dollars for his services f.b.i.
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operatives provided the fake c four and actually showed them a fake stinger missile fake weapons and a manufactured terror plot according to court testimony hussein recruited the economically strapped defended spy offering cars and cash to carry out the orchestrated operation then the agent provocateur or testified as the government's key witness in this nine eleven america the f.b.i. has upped its ante against terrorism allegedly boiling hot summers the country question is would there be any thoughts well without government form in place to help free that despite surprisingly little criticism from amnesty international and human rights watch others have expressed a lord over what they term entrapments a proper just considered on that sceptical and countries all throughout europe but i don't think it is i know what is entrapment aleesha mcwilliams mccullum is the
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ont of twenty nine year old david williams one of the newburgh for she says her nephew is languishing behind bars for a fake terror attack grown in the home of the u.s. government they are creating scenarios. why manufacturing crimes that would not have occurred if you had not planned on unconstructive seat into a community bin ladin is still out there there are real terrorists out there that we should be concerned about and they should use those resources declined those individuals in not sit back in rely on a woman's to make up crime well these are all people that we begin to identify attorney steve downs who tracks cases like newburgh four argues the u.s. government is systematically employing preemptive prosecution targeting those whom officials deem predisposed to committing crimes before an actual crime is committed there taking some really down and rather vulnerable individuals and not only
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implanting the ideology of jihad on them giving them all the things that they need all of the material setting up the plan doing all the research everything else and then grabbing them and then claiming that these were homegrown terrorists it's just a fiction downs created this ten foot wide visual listing the names of individuals he believes were entrapped by the f.b.i. government the size of for some reason your ideology is causes them concern because then they can come after you and they can manufacture crimes against you and they can make up a whole case and put you through the whole thing and eventually if they can persuade a jury that this manufactured case is valid you can go to jail for a very long time guilty verdicts for all formats as is the case of david williams and the other three who now face life in prison i don't have slaveholders i got government owns a government that will sell a family off a political game. and this is a god damn shame as a son said to be
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a goddamn larry king today. r.t. new york. and there is some very real outrage there for. the family members of the new book for joining me now for more from our new york city studio is artie's maria hi marie and i thank you so much for being here now you know i don't know if you saw the movie minority report but this case almost makes me think of that i mean is there a trend of convicting people for crimes before they actually commit them here in the united states or is this an exception to the you see this certainly is not an isolated incident and to those that are supporting defendants the newburgh four case that essentially say that they are victims of the f.b.i. point to a pattern there is other cases such as the fort dix five there's another case up in albany that the f.b.i. is using the same informant for the new work for they're using for a case or have used it for a case in albany and a pizzeria owner and
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a new mom from a mosque both muslim men were convicted on conspiring to help fund terrorist attacks and help plan terrorist attacks and other supporters of those men in albany supporters of the men in the for the fort dix five case the newburgh four case they argue that the f.b.i. is purposely planting these paid informants that they say are not even trained properly and giving them the incentives these informants incentives of one hundred thousand dollars salaries to go in and find would be terrorists and which would allow the f.b.i. to foil a crime before this crime is committed but as we've been asking with this story is would there be a crime without the f.b.i.'s involvement and without the paid informant that the f.b.i. has hired and then the system is almost stacked up against whoever ends up being the target of these paid informants because a lot of these informants are guys who have gotten in trouble with the law themselves and so instead of going and serving their time they're essentially being
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co-opted into working as informants and it's in their interest to actually convince the f.b.i. that you know they found other guys they're about to commit crimes in the. it is in their interest to prove that innocent people might be doing something wrong. lucy as a matter of fact i'm glad you brought that up because according to what's been reported about this informant shahid hussein was serving in the the informant in the newburgh four case he's a pakistani immigrant and he emigrated to the states in the early one nine hundred ninety s. and he was caught cheating on driver's license exams for immigrants and according to what's been reported he faced a string of felonies followed by deportation and the f.b.i. allegedly offered him an alternative to staying out of prison and then and not being deported of going to work for them and because he fit the right profile according to what's been reported spoke the right language was from the right the right country and was able to get into these communities. and develop relationships
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and they hired them so we were yeah you're absolutely right in terms of the informants in their experience i want to switch gears a little bit and look at the justice system itself and sort of the lack of outrage by a lot of the institutions that exist here to protect the rights of innocent americans who are being victims of these crimes and i want to play you a sound bite that we have from malcolm smart of amnesty international talking about the justice system not here in the u.s. but in iraq let's take a listen. some may be forced to comply they may go before courts that will accept the any information as evidence against them that may be sent to the. system that doesn't distinguish between you know who are the real culprits some who are the innocent victims. now marina i don't know if that sounded familiar to you but that seems like he's almost talking a bit about the united states hearing out have we heard anything from from memphian and other rights groups on this. absolutely not lucy we have not heard anything
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from amnesty international human rights watch and amnesty international particular needs to start focusing on these cases and what is happening within the borders of the united states if they're going to try to to be fair and judicial around the world that's great but you know there's a lot of similar cases to the new work for they're taking place here in the u.s. that have received no attention for amnesty international and the supporters of these defendants have spoke out and said where are these so-called human rights organizations how come they are not questioning what is happening here in the u.s. and how the u.s. government is treating their own americans so it's interesting to see amnesty international speak out about what's happening in other countries but yet say so little about what's happening here at home all right marina well thank you so much for bringing us this important story other outlets may not be covering it but we know they are on it thank you so much now still to come in tonight's show according to the mayan calendar of the world is going to come to an end in twenty twelve but with the mines probably didn't tell you is that the porn industry is to blame you
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heard me right and i want to explain in just a moment and the mainstream media's fail in covering the latest iraq war logs from wiki leaks to the press focused too much on the messenger and miss the message we're going to suss this with georgetown professor christopher chambers in just a moment. we'll see british science it's time to. go. to the. markets why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy there's a report on our g. now
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yesterday we told you about act out and how countries are trying to adopt measures to stop file sharing and illegal downloading so how am i going to get my music i don't know but it's not just the music labels in hollywood who want piracy to end now the adult industry is the arresting and soared into the fight as well porn stars and producers have for years lamented the lack of compensation and recognition for their or creative endeavors after all they don't get the same box office promotion of family friendly movies and of course netflix and blockbuster have left them out of the dust and many of these free porn sites are actually stealing their copyrighted footage now it's gotten so bad the poorest parts have actually been forced to team up with the free speech coalition to spread the word check out the following p.s.a. . hi i'm charlie lane you know it makes me really sad is when people hurt
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animals and when people even legally download my movies movie piracy hurts thousands and thousands of people hard working people with families just like you i love my fans and work really hard to entertain and arouse you so if you could show your support and actually buy my movies it would make me really happy now isn't that better. and we block that out i'm so upset now i gotta give credit to some of these triple x. rated stars who really do know how to use their access to their advantage but back to the illegal downloading the head honchos of porn recently got together in a secret meeting to try to come up with a plan of attack against this growing problem pun intended you see they've released pledge to redirect the business and say that they have a plan to crush these soulless evil porn fans who dares feel their hard work without fair fair pay and they plan to end the era of pretty free porn by january
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twenty twelfth two thousand and twelve now it all makes sense if you when people were talking about the mayan calendar and how the world was going to end in two thousand and twelve they were actually talking about the real physical world just a world of free porn so without free porn people will obviously have to pay for their kicks which will totally kill everyone's sex drive bringing an end to procreation and humanity i guess concerned viewers just start stocking up now because twenty twelve is not that far away. now yesterday we took an in-depth look at some of the horrifying revelations gleaned about the iraq war from the whistle blowing web sites wiki leaks torture murder war crimes lies about the justification for and the execution of the war but those at the highest levels at the pentagon now of course are he wasn't alone in covering this story after all it's hard to ignore the biggest leak of secret information in u.s. history but today we want to look at how the mainstream media chose to tackle the story by focusing on the messenger wiki leaks instead of the actual message in fact
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it got so bad that we can weeks founder julian the signage was forced to storm out of an interview with c.n.n. after the reporter kept asking questions about him and not the leaked information take a look. now joining me now to discuss this is christopher chambers georgetown university professor and author of the blog now turn us revenge thank you so much for joining us so before we get to julian i sort of want to start over by going over how the iraq war logs were covered in the domestic media versus abroad let's look at some of these headlines we had b.b.c. wiki leaks released shows the u.s. ignored iraq torture all right the guardian secret files show that the u.s. ignored torture all jazeera the u.s. turned a blind eye to torture and then we get to the new york times and what is the new york times have detainees fared worse in iraqi hands i mean it almost seems to me like there's a white washing of the i want regulations and in the press i mean what's up with
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that well first of all the subject matter and the coverage involves a lot of hypocrisy and a lot of irony traditionally american media has not done prosy an irony very well because choir's analysis that requires getting beyond what the least common denominator demographic can understand they want to put things in bite sized pieces for people and drama the messenger julian his quirks and peculiarities are much more compelling for them for our our little minds in europe it's not like that now the i'm not irony here is the new york times doing this it's not saying i know that it's not it's newspapers and the new york times which was one of the outlets that vetted the original. afghanistan leaks you know so what is their problem you know it's sad it really is i mean and this is also the same paper that brought us the pentagon papers and all these other historical leaks i mean do you think that they're so tired of being called i don't know anti-american you know liberal that
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maybe they're trying to go the other way. perhaps i don't think so i mean in terms of you know the president arthur sulzberger and all them they're they're not they're not into that they're not they're not fighting it like n.p.r. have beautified now they were. really already established in a traditional media now perhaps there's jealousy there perhaps there's bad a bad taste in their mouth from them being you know getting dumptruck the afghanistan stuff and not discovering it originally but but look at this i mean spiegel the guardian i mean these are these are amazing newspapers and they are calling the spade a spade torture hypocrisy people turning. iraqis over to death squads you know yet what are we focusing on the original afghanistan release and saying well julian the songes responsible for turning people over the taliban death squads when there's no proof of that i mean we like drama our little brains can get around
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drama in europe they're more into the detail and they're also they don't have a dog in this fight this is our war this is our history and americans do not like looking back on uncomfortably bad things well not only are they not focusing on the on the substance but they're the bigger question especially to look at the t.v. coverage seems to be what's going to happen to week in weeks after they did this and i want to play you a clip that i think we have from a.b.c. news where the reporter just finished outlining all of the devastating information that was found in these clips right and take a look at how diane sawyer reacted. diana i know there's a lot of outrage about this again tonight martha but tell me anything more about prosecuting the wiki leaks group well the head of we said this afternoon that he said the f.b.i. has actually interviewed people and there might be espionage charges against him might be ok martha raddatz reporting tonight all right so. what why well you know again we like stories we like villains we like characters and the
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look a little of this is his fault because he is a very mysterious kind of cat as my grandfather used to say he's a mysterious cat and you know what the hair and now it's a different color and his background that's tailor made for the sound bite so proper is coverage that unfortunately our major cable outlets are involved but also john burns in the new york times i mean glenn greenwald excoriated him for that. we what was the purpose of that why would the new york times sink to network news coverage which they attack all the time as being shallow and it's because we like the we like the villains we like the story we don't also don't want to admit that what was going on in iraq was a mistake on many different levels and that's why we don't want to cover makes me think too i mean we all know that. the news business in america these days has become a business we're entering into what our customers they were and people want and it
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is it almost a sense of the that there is torture fatigue because remember when the album greater kind of broke everyone was outraged it was all over the headlines and yet now instead of focusing on the actual torture we're focusing on julio you know there is torture fatigue we also don't want to admit uncomfortable and bad things and do things right in the level of war crimes but even with abu ghraib that was a good story there were villains there was lynndie england there were those pictures that it was almost hollow we you know this is this is this is devil in the details kind of stuff. it's reams of paper it's you know what they talked about germany after world war two the banality of evil or with stalin when he was exposed to what he had been doing the if you will of reams of paper outlining in almost vanilla detail bad things we don't do that we americans don't like the networks and apparently the new york times doesn't do that very well well it's a sad day when an institution and
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a single man is of more interest to to our news organizations than an unfortunate rise that led us to a war that continues to claim american lives thank you so much now for prosecuting americans for crimes they have yet to commit to the dark shadows of america's torture facilities in guantanamo bay have become synonymous with illegal torture but now the u.s. military bob graham detention facility in afghanistan is joining their ranks prisoners of bhangra could potentially vanish and never be heard from again thanks to a federal court decision earlier this week that lets the u.s. officials keep secret key information about hundreds of these detainees now the news of course comes on the heels of the wiki leaks revelations about u.s. misdeeds in iraq so how is all of this in the big picture affecting america's reputation abroad joining me now from our los angeles studio is afghanistan a war veteran jake gilberto hi jake thank you so much for joining us now i mean the program thank you now i want to start off by looking at this decision with barbara
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i mean america essentially decided to greenlight the u.s. practice of keeping info and bother with secret not so much coverage of this issue here in the u.s. so for those of our viewers who may not be familiar with the case why should we care. well yeah i think the american people should care for a number of reasons number one is most of them as we saw in iraq most of the people that are captured. get sent to these secret prisons and they get what they once they found out they weren't really a part of the insurgency but. they were innocent bystanders which is what most prisoners are during wartime environment they're released back to the population and when they go back to the population they end up becoming combatants but in joining the insurgency because they've been a part of injustices so americans need to be concerned because in war often times the people they get captured are not the bad guys the second reason that americans should care is because that ours are soldiers that are that are partaking in the in the war effort that capture innocent civilians sustain
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a moral injury there's soldiers that capture people they themselves are human and they themselves get hurt when they have to capture and they see the torture or the waterboarding or the dogs barking or the handling of of innocent civilians and they take that back into society and that's something that bear forever well jake not just post-traumatic stress i mean there are soldiers are bearing real physical injuries injuries as well i mean there were seems to be a disconnect between our foreign policy what this country actually does abroad and how we're perceived abroad and when you talk about secret prisons torture drone attacks military bases and all these things have bury real repercussions abroad and they fall into the sort of narrative of america the bad guy and it's going to be our own soldiers who are going to pay the price with their lives i mean i just i'm going to try as did i mean i had. no we have to see this i mean i mean adam gadahn is the is the american born al qaeda member and adam gadahn has put out a zillion videos with with al qaeda and other sorts of other organizations and
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these efforts inside of baghdad inside of guantanamo bay and inside of. all the other prisons that we have inside of iraq and what not to grab in other places these are recruiting tools for al qaeda the islamic jihad the terrorism effort to to attack the united states civilians back home is exasperated by having secret prisons like this and that the tough part that we face is we're in a war inside of afghanistan which in my perspective is contrary to the interest of the american people. we're in a war and while we're in war we have to have jails so i think that what the corrective action to confront this is to be as open and honest bring in amnesty international bring in the international red cross bring in the international community to they can see and be open and see who people who the people are being captured and to make sure that they withstand an international court that's how you deal with combat and that's what we did world war two that's what we did and korea and that's what we should be doing inside of iraq and afghanistan and also with
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international terrorist efforts i mean the people the decision makers at the top of the pentagon in the white house etc i mean these aren't stupid people so is it that they just don't realize this or do they not care i mean these policies are directly affecting how our soldiers abroad being affected. yeah you're you know this is a credible question and people want to blame obama or they want to blame the pentagon this isn't the real problem i think is that the intelligence community i mean bob baer has made a point over and over and over again that the intelligence community has become more and more reliant on electronic surveillance and haven't been directly looking at human intelligence received on the ground and so we've got a lot of scoop as we said the marines are got a bunch of bad information and we're capturing innocent civilians and what we need to see is a intelligence reform. equal access from the f.b.i. from m i five from the cia to make sure that the people that we're targeting the people we capture in a counterterrorist effort are really indeed combatants that pose an existential
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threat to humanity if we don't see that the innocent capture of civilians the capture of innocent civilians is only going to continue and that is a travesty as far as human rights issues that concern and as far as the security of international world last quick question i mean the u.s. also spend billions literally billions in humanitarian aid abroad which isn't just about helping those people in need but really about keeping the perception of america as this gentle country that's doing good aren't these policies sort of contradictory trying to buy friends with aid while doing it and keeping these secret prisons where where innocent people are at and actually captain in the dark . and this is the most glaring obvious point of the entire afghanistan war we've got secret prisons we've got torture and waterboarding happening and and guantanamo bay and abu ghraib we've got secret private wars taking place with contractors inside of yemen so yes i mean development and aid is absolutely essential in the diplomatic effort but we really need is the international world needs an open ended
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an open discussion and clear obvious war against terrorists who pose a threat to everyone and not to the invasion of innocent countries like iraq and afghanistan another place i take a lot of contradictions there that folks in washington will one day hopefully. have to answer for now coming up we have two time winner so night that's a special night and they both have something to do with public sex now when explain in just a moment and of course we are one week away from the midterm elections here in the u.s. and the latest or right wing attack is against the scary new elite apparently if you practice yoga and don't watch oprah you aren't american i'm going to speak with comedian and political analyst sam feeder in just a moment. broadcasting
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live from our studios in central moscow this is our t.v. certainly glad to have you with us to get your headlines you don't want to be german but you want your benefits the harsh message from some politicians who accuse immigrants in the country of failing to integrate comments by chancellor angela merkel that multiculturalism has failed to open a divisive debate on this sensitive topic. saddam hussein's deputy to wreak has been sentenced to death for persecuting islamic parties however some say the verdict is to distract from the wiki leaks exposé of secret american files wind spread killing and torture by the us backed regime which replaced
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a dictator. the russian security services cut off in international funding terrorism in the north caucuses they say the money is it behind a surge of recent terror attacks in the region. my colleague is coming up in just a bit about thirty minutes with a look at your full news but right now it's back to part two of the only on the show. for the full story we've gone to. the biggest issues get the human voice things to face with the news makers. i now it's time for tonight's tool time award because you guys have been so kind to me while on has been away we have two winners for you now the first award goes to air new zealand for a plan that unfortunately is only going to lead to trouble according to their website the airline is soon going to start offering sky couches on their flights they claim that these new seats will be perfect for cup.
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