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use it for good health. back with more news in around thirty minutes time up next while going to discuss is gas prices and shipping security the spokesperson of the world's largest natural gas producer that's an interview program spotlight coming up in just. a cell phones would be useless without this minerals. the tiny pieces needed to make them work. but a piece of colton is extracted at a cost to life. hello

again and welcome to spotlight. on i t. v my guest in the studio is syria gate. this one or the world's biggest producer and exporter. will be heating hall from the european continent and with cold season had talks about gas prices. is something going to happen maybe something bad something we better be prepared for to share the news on this subject here is the official spokesman of a. new presidential process only craned the gas wars with russia that could across the continent look over the two countries reached an agreement on discounts for natural gas bookkeeping return russia got a longer lease on the sebastopol naval base but ukraine is still not happy with the

gas price and prime minister putin says russia is ready to discuss another discount flukey of the most of the several european countries agreed with discounts for imported natural gas it seems a good deal for the europeans feel progress in london from central asia is an attorney to russian gas but some experts suggest the book is just words and no alternative to moscow's north stream and south stream pipeline. thank you for coming to our program with the as i said the winter is coming to words yes prom winter and ukraine somehow connected in the minds of journalists could you tell us if agreements have been reached with ukraine should near the border i mean. the price would be lowered he was talking about two hundred thirty two hundred thirty five dollars. four thousand cubic meters from gazprom we have the number two hundred fifty dollars four thousand cubic meters how are these

negotiations with ukraine going to go. we have a contract based on which we calculate the price which is adjusted every quarter depending on how prices change and also the different numbers that you hear a different times contradict each other they just reflect the current situation so there have not been any new agreements on gas prices we were just discussing what price we will get you based on the formula that we have in the contract. contracts could you just clarify something for me this is all happening under the agreement that put into motion cosigned right there well it is more appropriate to see that the deal was between us croman after god it is the same contract right because i gave once to revise these agreements we got they were ready to revise it was. we have heard about this from our ukrainian colleagues of course we can consider

different proposals and suggestions but it is the producer and we are satisfied with these contracts. which so you are ready to revise the contract see if it's because some of the new ones will benefit you even more. or could there be other conditions or if they propose something that we would find interesting also not today but maybe sometime in the future well you've already mentioned it several times seen out if russians the russian people think that good relations between the two countries should influence gas prices i mean in relations between. spotlights. that. hi there well the recent change of course in the relations between russia and ukraine has triggered an interest. today i'll try to find out if this improving relations of the two countries. the good relations between russia and other countries should influence

gas prices. i think everything should be fair i think ukraine should pay the same price for gas as any other of all neighboring countries why should we lower the price for them if we do other countries with their prices too. i think we should because we need to have as many allies as we possibly can it would be even better if these allies could surround us that we would have a more peaceful life but it is anything else would come with a price. yes i think we should lower the prices because they are our neighbors would you try to have good relations with your neighbors. why should we on one hand on the other hand in order to support good political interests we have to pay the price just you know we shouldn't lower the price because i think that everything should be based on market conditions good relations between states should be measured by some of the criteria the economic relations.

in order to have good relations of course we should because everybody would gain from it so who would actually benefit from the creation of russia ukraine. russia ukraine even europe. the. who's interested in creating this consortium alluded that ukraine would be willing to make some concessions for the sake of this consortium. think that all sides will benefit from this is for a state interests are concerned but. because on the gas business side of things. there is a very tight technological connection. between naftogaz and gas profit sharing. it was created as one system. therefore we control the system from one place you know it will be able to save more we will be able to be more

flexible and so on and so forth. that you will be shown how would your a benefit from this consortium. on interrupted deliveries. point different entities controls supply in transit given that ukraine is responsible for transit to russian gas prong are responsible for supply if we have one control center yes and the whole system will be more reliable obviously which europe will naturally benefit from them steve you know who these gas problems is convinced that these consortium is beneficial not only to you but also to the ukraine and europe see of that but produces consumers transit countries absolutely everyone put you in why are you the ones who have to convince everybody and they concessions and lower prices but does it benefit you more than anybody else am i right it is anywhere

near to do it i don't think so. when problems with transit to europe to place. they mostly complain to us because they had signed contracts with us not somebody else. so when looking at such initiative and european if this would help us carry out our contractual obligations. as you crane is concerned. this issue has been on top of for a long time now. for ukraine this is a very sensitive issue from the standpoint of politics. and that is the main reason for doubts about this consortium. we have just heard what people in the streets of moscow think. correspondent ask them if

they thought russia should pay for this friendship in other words should gazprom to sell gas at lower prices to friends and allies like ukraine belarus ukraine everybody knows things that you see choose. i was there not too long ago during what the russians themselves called the gas war i don't know what you think but to me didn't look like a gas war because it was different from the situation in ukraine belarus thought it was a war because you wouldn't of the prices in two thousand and eleven the current agreement expires a new contracts will have to be signed do you think it is possible that there will be another the so-called war prices will be raised. you know all right yes to many different questions so all trials they're open necked what can we expect from the situation bellerose. first of all the stuff about whether or not gas prom

should pay for friendship with our allies if we look at these two examples in ukraine and belarus we will see that certain concessions that you need for them didn't truly affect their business and the discount that the economy got this year is to basically a lower x. sports tax also this money goes to the student budget if they didn't get up at a point and then package deals which involve stationing the black sea fleet and it's a vast of all are something that the. wealth of the state is really to pay for that you don't gasp wrong as a business was not affected by that. so you know the same with belarus about it some time ago we agreed on a transitional period. for us as the producer this was a chance to prevail period the consumer for higher prices it also i'm no expert the tax on gas deliveries to bill reduce which we initially did. so this should be

creaming to the ukraine expires seen the twenty nineteen issue so we are fine here i hope we don't need to warri. as far as they'll roost is concerned though i just think you're right on the contract expires next year but will have to negotiate the terms for a new agreement. at this point it is hard to say what is going to happen with these negotiations but we think that over time we have reached a mutually acceptable level of god peroration. and based on this but he we hope you got to sign a new contract. and you and i just said no we're going to have to ski. you don't expect serious complications the so-called gas war was. when you hope to signing you usually beneficial agreement

a look at the league and go right well we all know the expression of hope for the best prepare for the worst how to shop all right another question about belarus. these negotiations affect the consumer not but the bt heating it want consumers in europe. it is a difficult question. in any negotiations our objective is to make sure that they don't hurt anyone but if we're concerned about our consumers we consumers in countries who are we deliver gas to the consumers in transit countries and of course every time we do everything we can to make sure it doesn't happen in your position there are no problems but of course there are exceptions squishing says on the gas prospects that spotlight will be back shortly after we take a break so stay with us we'll continue this interview in less than

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welcome back to spotlight i'm and i just want to remind you that my guests here in the studio today is sit again. the spokesman for russian gas problem who is the gas giant here in this country and this one could be on the mystical prion of one of the journalists favorite topics to discuss with a guest pramod fishel at the u.n. is south stream is the majority's opinion that strain is the bucco pipelines rival. gazprom has recently started work on the project and is currently negotiating with the french. and the german. i you negotiate ing with any new partners in this project. to reduce its share for

the sake of new partners. that's what. i would say we have activated oh we're since we have always been actively working on the project but the fact that as you say people talk a lot about. sauce three now because among other reasons. there is nothing to save bulk nordstrom animal shipping into the pipeline construction is under way. you may remember that some time ago there used to be a lot of criticism and doubts about it budging it was i know for some reason but i actually enjoy lists. with journalists completely forgot about it when everything is fine in the media to forget about it so what's wrong with the south koreans since all of them out there. in a book in south through rivalry we have many times he repeated that there is no reason for such a rivalry with the. south stream is it to have it delivering our gas to our rick

consumers national can other words transit they versification into and the two for it delivery it's diversification or say the word is in a pipeline he's and was created as a two for source diversification for the european consumers in this respect we do not compute it's all well read enough that we are sure that our project will be implemented according to schedule and again twenty fifteen gas delivery will be performed i forgot torture and i mean right now we are at this stage when they fiza billet the study for the c part of the project is rating which us so next year we expect to be considering. she haas abilities in all the options we have ships and you know that recently mania became interested in this project to you. was not part of this project prior to that. when you say interested do you mean

that you have started negotiations already yes a direct contact it's a right they're just saying direct contacts that at the moment they are trying to give their proposal soft how they will jump on this train. which is running fast already past soonest possible. and in the first part of the next year we are to make the final decision on this pipeline through. in a final name self the intermediate geographic fleeces off the roof. great. question is gazprom ready to decrease its share in the project to attract new participants are you talking about the c part of the project and i assume because regarding the lamp board in every country we created tooling to venture and sharing it is fifty fifty plus one cheer so always lean you've asked about this. it's an issue to be negotiated with are telling in french nurse and any new partners if

they emerge. you don't comment much on the pipeline however the majority of russian commentators in the next person analysts are more politicized than usual because you are more business if you should they tend to criticize nabucco saying that it has little chances to get implemented it has little grounds to exist and there is nothing much to sell and cetera what do we as a representative of russian and big business. can you really say that the pipeline is not a rival to gazprom or do you have to consider it as the business that can stale a bit from your profits. should i repeat once again it's a two for resource there were suffocation and we're in it we're building soft stream to increase or reliability omar deliveries and reduced transit to risks do

you have that's why these are two different tasks that cannot contradict each other . for the criticism of the book i don't think i have just become that skeptical. supporters of this project without me. i think that for example if their financing. claim to be media soley by state banks shows what the ratio between economic. non economic interests is. in this project. now about. we often hear that. council of ministers recently gave consent to signing a new gas agreement with russia. to it. correctly the owner

of the pipeline on the polish territory is the polish state owned company system. newspapers say that this system company will perform only technical functions but the. problem will be the real and will limit the company's role in maintaining this part of the pipeline that they control the pipes. in european. commission through this agreement to each hole and has already agreed. or all i have just said is not true. the situation is as follows you're probably remember the mall europe gas pipeline in the polish part of it was built onto the program all for delivery diversification. and about

a new key do initially there was only one corridor that went through ukraine so in addition to that it would have a pipeline period to the polish one and sometime later lose three most bill directly to turkey just up all the right now the polish part of the mall europe pipeline belongs to the joint venture a europe whole gas joint venture with gasper oman the polish national gas company put it when you put into the new requirements of the european commission. guess transporting system is to be operated by an independent company and at the moment gas system which is a hundred percent polish state on company use a point two billion dependent operator we s. era poll guess shareholders are interested that the company receives enough revenue to be able to pay for credits. and we wanted to provide us with a reasonable terrorists for gas transit through polish territory and we think that

the agreements which we have signed but i want to. enable us to do so it was it to leave it with the intergovernmental agreement proving the entire package cream and so we hope that it will be signed soon and poland itself is interested more than anybody in it as well in the region as a community based gas deficit if you're in the winter which is here and pleasant. it's a list system of agreements with poland to. take up a system of only take or pay that with the leader yes of course i would. gazprom negotiating abolishment told the paper principle with other clients about me they need to know what by no means so you're satisfied with it right we do our best to demonstrate to our clients that it's good for them as well because if you don't

consider just the current situation if you look at shared for a year or two you will see that as a long term condition it's good for everybody because our clients know that they will always have gas they will have a secure source of energy. to the head of gas aleksei miller said that the domestic russian market is becoming the development priority for the company here i have several questions. first of all why is it a priority gas is much cheaper at the domestic market and what looks like gas problem doesn't want to earn more money and secondly it would is it the reason for europe to look. if it's a take or pig and then they have nothing to worry about now as for the domestic market its volume is twice as much as so rocks are toward string and considering

their decision to shift to equally profitable domestic crisis by twenty fourteen will have to markets like europe within our countries and we won't have to build expensive pipelines. to provide gas market which will be asked profitable because the european market and. you know considering that there will be no x. import tax and that we won't need to delivery of gas to remote regions for russian consumers gas will be cheaper and they whom lose their competitive advantage based on the fact that russia. he's reaching natural gas but i share that ana and you did it as you said russia is a region guess where does this paradox come from as i know in russia there is still no guest supply network that even in moscow region there are many villages without a guest supply is their name to provide guests applied to every settlement in

russia there are two issues here your first let you say something about cheap gas considering that it's several times cheaper than any other shanachie source like boil or your cool or anything else due to the fact that it's more convenient to use gas in case we had to lower g.s.t. all consumers would have caused when it's going to negative profit and would have exhausted gas resources that's the first thing and now just as the price is cruel we are sure that demand will be reasonable and that we'll be able to deliver as much historic klein says they will need and i mean certainly in the country it's huge and from the economic viewpoint it's not always profitable syrian stall if you're piped to a separate village but there are other options we could provide autonomy gas supply with. a chain or anything that was there for cuts or all options but of course there won't be one hundred percent gas supply network it's not profitable. it would

have to think about it thank you very much for being with us and just a reminder that my guest in the studio today was the on the spokesman for the russian gas giant and that's it for now from all of us here if he wants your say on this show the ally spotlight will be back with more first and comment on what's going on in that russia until then stay on and take.