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i see live from moscow these are the top stories identity crisis nato is set to meet in lisbon for a summit to figure out where the cold war alliance is going in the twenty first century u.s. led blogs now looking to russia for help as the war on terror in afghanistan drags on in a drags on into it stands near. bringing democracy to other style with u.s. money american slammed their governments for the billions of taxpayer dollars funding regime change abroad which they say is only a bath. hiring on them. and no prison time for petty crimes is what russian

lawmakers are proposing as they prepare to prevalent as the country's penitentiary system russia's prisons are currently overflowing. this would have lines here in art's you'll have more on those stories about thirty minutes time up next though it's our special report on the controversial american academic norman finkelstein and he's been cold a self hating jews by some at a street fighting visionary by others we explore his journey around the world as he tries to negotiate a voice among his supporters and critics that's next here in our team. you know the famous joke. a journalist goes around them asks a russian of oh and it's really the same question he first goes to the russian excuse me what's your opinion of the meat shortage the russian says what's in the penny and. the reporter then goes to the pope excuse me what's your

opinion of the meat shortage the pogos what's meat. you know goes to the israeli excuse me what's your opinion of the meat shortage is really replies what's excuse me. norman finkelstein speaks for no one but himself and a handful of people who have such hatred for america. famous in this recent tragic events should that if a person walking the streets of london going to treat people he could probably be killed before he met. every single member of my family on both sides was exterminate both of my parents who are the who i was ghetto uprising. and the first five flake and exactly the

price of know matthew my parents for me and my proof simply and i will not be silent when israel commits its crimes against the palestinians. norman finkelstein is a professor of political science he's been to the center of numerous heated academic and political disputes he can. who has ever managed to stifle you look at you there's a plethora of books the rise and fall of palestine the holocaust industry reflections on the exploitation of jewish suffering it's been the.

huge increase in the debate hasn't been. easy to look to as well in some dusty room unable to speak. today a debate and a new book called the case for israel it's by alan dershowitz who is one of the nation's foremost appellate lawyers felix frankfurter professor of law at harvard law school and why don't we start with you laying out the thesis of your latest book the case for israel well i want to write

a progressive liberal case for the two state solution which i think that most israelis favor and have favored for a long time i argue in the book that no country in history faced with comparable threats both external and internal has ever tried so hard to comply with the rule of law i compare israel favorably to the united states in this regard norman finkelstein your response i was asked to comment in the sky whose new book i went home purchased one copy in fact i purchased two copies i read the book very carefully i did with what someone serious does. with the book. i read the text i went through the footnotes and went through it very carefully there's only one conclusion one can reach having read the book and this is a scholarly judgment it's not an ad hominum attack mr dershowitz has concocted a fraud. my parents were survivors of knobs and.

sometimes i was. because. i thought it was going to be like. opening up this new skates everything is going to come out and i wouldn't be able to handle it. the one. my first involvement publicly in the israel palestine conflict was the israeli invasion of love between ninety two. and the estimates or you know somewhere around twenty thousand palestinians. all

the womanly some police were killed. and so i started to to we ration sleep on the israel palestine country. so now i have both the european and the scholarly commitment and then obviously i'm jewish so i have a personal commitment and a free came together. i saw one back in the occupied territories chair in the first intifada i'm going to live with a book house to do families. develop enduring relationships. norman was always a very political person even in the tenth grade eleventh grade he was always

very political he was probably more political than anybody that i knew with the time and we were many of us very political beings being against the war in vietnam was very was involved that was the thing to do but norman was truly was truly against it. you know i could understand why you weren't torn apart by what the u.s. was doing to you you have these scenes on television you know real cruel things to my shoes being incinerated from my parents i got the moral commitment but what i got from professor chomsky was a way to articulate it intellectually without losing the passion and commitment it was a way to do both when i met him. the time he was

a graduate student he was a graduate student at princeton. in the police department working on the history of zionism and at that time a book appeared to draw on peter's book from time immemorial which was receiving an enormous praise just everywhere under it's a lot of reviews the greatest thing since chocolate ice cream. the poll was completely preposterous and worthless the book said that there were no palestinians in palestine until the zionists came along and made the desert bloom and then the palestinians began to arrive to palestine it was the book that was a no value whatsoever it simply recycled very old and stale israeli

propaganda but it was the book that american jews want to have because it completely whitewashed israel. and the book was a huge success and received every accolade in america until norman finkelstein wrote a longer view article in which he exposed the spurious scholarship behind that book and i send out my findings to like twenty five people tied them up. and then one side of a morning i got a quote from professor chomsky you know this is noam chomsky and he said i read your writings and they saw on the right to me i mean is going to be controversial in a generally it isn't but there are certain issues in certain subjects where debate can be difficult.

this book in the holocaust industry and norman finkelstein in the author of welcome to you thank you for having me controversial and i can't not use words mean of you . i. know many things that i don't know i don't even know so that all of us i remain faithful. to the horrendous suffering of my parents yet then i see how the course has of all ceased to be a source of morrow or his sorrow in my opinion and it has become a straight out extortion racket i have full of american jews have

a fact of holy hijack the nazi holocaust for the last mayo europe. these how local i'm tough having one of the main phone or. an anti semitism in europe as well as the main purpose is a holocaust denial i do slightly disagree with the tone of us was slow to discuss these matters because i do feel that remember a specially organized to remember and since it's costly it doesn't just happen it

isn't just done by volunteer. there is no avoid something like that organization that we call that. this is not about some construction of memory this is about people using history for their political purposes there is no new anti semitism this is pure fabrication. there is a creation of a new anti semitism to serve the same purpose as was used for the past twenty years the holocaust industry to divert attention from what's being done to the palestinians so everybody is talking about the new anti semitism instead of what's being done to the palestinians and the wonderful inversion

to her israel and its supporters and to the victims and her and the palestinians and their supporters into the victimizers turning reality wholly on its head. my grandmother did not like her because. she was afraid. and she was very good for me. she felt. i was frankenstein's monster in this case finkelstein sometimes i had taken her too literally. taken it too much to heart. and. she felt i was destroying myself.

and david wrote a book called the holocaust industry the whole point of the page has been said to trivialize i am not blocking the whole point of the book was to trivialize to minimalize jewish suffering that took place in the holocaust that is not. i think to do with the conflicts going on in the middle east the only thing that it does is it adds to the tension on campus he made his entire career is based on was me let me see. that.

they. were through a bit of respect i'm an old timer i know how deeply frustrating it can be when you're sitting in the audience and somebody goes on for an hour and a half saying things that you find obviously utterly loaded some repulsive and also you think factually incorrect and. i think i think people should have more than sixty seconds as i said i'll leave it to the patience of the audience when you feel it's going on too long you know how to express your disapproval otherwise they should be allowed to go on. you joining your speech you made a lot of references to jewish people as well as certain people in your audience not just people in general but certain people especially in your audience to nazis you know that is extremely offensive when certain people. and they're also extremely

offensive to people who actually suffered the nazi world i don't respect that anymore i really don't i don't like and i don't respect the crocodile tears to come to their crocodile theory. i'll allow them to finish and i live only here i love made it very very certain. allow me to finish. i. oh mike well i don't like to play before an audience the hi-lo course card but since now i feel ok now i feel compelled to write farmer welcome to our. mary mary. shylock one thanks for i work while you're out.

my mate my bro where from mike i'm going i'm from french repaired. every single member of my family and my father. i might well have. to take a look at the father was at auschwitz concentration crowd my my brother was in my prime concentration camp every single member of my family on both five was exterminate both of my former who of course i know are rising. profile fully and exactly the crux of the right foods my parents taught me and my proof simply that i will not be silent when israel commits its crimes against the palestinians i consider nothing more openness. to use very suffering and very well for them to try to justify not what

you're not brutal was very few can remember much from the poem threat is real very clear it's ok to close to me and so i reply you know i do longer to be in him a day or browbeaten by my peers if you had you know you would be crying for the palestinians. norman finkelstein is a classic anti-semite. invokes the oldest stereotypes against the jews if he were not a jew that is she i don't think he is a jew he is as someone once put it he's jewish only on his parents' side. if he were not a jewish person or a person of jewish heritage with a name like finkelstein nobody would have any doubt that he was an anti-semite it's only because he's jewish sometimes i feel that it's suffocating to the secular jew

hating you good to be critical of israel. many israelis are critical of israeli policies and many israelis are. antenna zionist even i have no problem with people challenging and critiquing zionism israel israeli policy i would never call that person really did that anti-semitic what does goes well beyond the . thank. you israel question whatever you feel about the justice or injustice of the establishment of the state of israel whatever you think about that that's a historical question there is now a current political question all of the palestinians are the palestinians

intitled to their self determination there are two people living in doubt when one people have the full rights of statehood in any percent of the land and the people who occupied that land for several thousand years consecutively are being there not their right to self-determination in twenty percent of their homeland thank you thank you. i don't entirely agree with the previous speaker. this is the israeli palestinian conflict he says the israeli palestinian front of the arab this whole conflict will be jailed journalists killed on the hill goes to pakistan. this is the story of islamic extremists. and he gets kidnapped

now they kidnapped him because he was an american journalist a battle over you sleep like all american journalist he must be a cia agent. the inside could not to be discovered there would school who's a jew. and as a matter of fact technically speaking an israeli. they go so so we did about it. but then they didn't confess on camera. speaking to video camera cops not unlike this one forced into to thessaloniki camera i am a jew the son of a jew less and then they slit his throat. the people who did that have not been stopped it is really checked for people develop an episode in israel that. no matter what all the roots of this call for it all we've evolved into a situation in which

a large segments of the world. tali well in the western world of the seventy's it was almost vanished in this classical sense large sections of the world and in fact it was something that's almost indistinguishable from that he said to see the entire world community say between one in six states depending on the vote the entire world community believes that the palestinians should have their right to self-determination in twenty percent of their homeland yes real and united states are denying them that right it's as simple as that and you can drag in that conservatism the holocaust daniel pearl and everything else but it can't change the fundamental facts the fundamental facts are these the entire world community supports a two state settlement along the june one thousand nine hundred sixty seven borders israel the united states the chief rejectionists in the world are opposed to it.

many issues with mr finkelstein's position chief among them is his notion that really this cut this situation which has persisted in the middle east for decades really comes down to something very simple it's all the fault of the israelis but i think there are a number of reasons that could explain this for instance popularity with those individuals who support palestinian side of the middle east question first is with . a well read and their take to it spokesperson of their cause said in the bow and i have to really be quite candid here the fact of the matter is that norman finkelstein is a member of the jewish community and have a member of the jewish community speak out against the state of israel gives his words a certain cachet that no one jew or a palestinian spokesperson. would simply would not.

say of course were about israel. let's be clear about one thing and my view as a release have the right to be there they have the right to exercise self-determination in. what's his star palestine i have no question in my mind about that and i have many friends who live there many people who i deeply respect i have no interest whatsoever in playing this game of bashing israel that's not my thing but but allow me to buy it for those of you who are snickering but just as it would be shameful shameful for any german during world war two to give a lecture singing the praises of germany and just as during the us war in vietnam for me to sing the praises of the us. amid the horror and amid the suffering

i'm not going to sing the praises of israel when the war is over when palestinians have equal rights when there is justice they are very happy to join along with everybody in seeing israel's accomplishments and criticizing its faults but not while and when it's torturing the palestinian thank. you this is late much less. waste. heat. stay here. we do have the problem but every time and effort is may on the palestinian or in the europeans to negotiate an

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