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offenders could soon see time behind bars for a fine community service as part of the country's ongoing prison reform to relieve overcrowded jails and introduce punishments suited to crime. about with more news for us in half an hour from now in the meantime he's called a jew by some and a street fighting visionary by others will follow the journey of the controversial american academic norman finkelstein. i would not say i was an absolutely top form you do great for media now as an opportunity to grab on a couple things like what was the last question about palestinian terrorism well i thought i answered that well you getting line is you know be in the media to marshal the focus and house and karen bennett you know is really charismatic i mean i think it's a question of priorities i spoke for two hours we're going to people showed an enormous amount of tolerance and then me speak for two hours and therefore i have

an obligation to let people have their say no i'm saying things which deeply upset many people in the audience if they controlled themselves for two hours and showed me their respect and i have an obligation to let them lead out their feelings and thoughts and complain about immediately get this done i don't want to be i don't want to use the media i don't like expressions like that i don't want to success which is based on ruthlessness a success that's based on. the victory of scoundrels and no right to copy at the ankles i need to speak you know said norman finkelstein is profiting from the holocaust just like the industry that you criticize and using the memory of his parents to profit off and that's basically what is when you think about him well. it's a strange way to profit to lose your job and be thrown into exile in the place

where you have don't want to be after fifty years of living in new york it's an odd sort of profiteering end up living in chicago and. losing my job i can't say i was a happy household my mother she always tries to derive lessons from what she experienced. she was always analyzing what happened she thought that you know in the thames you saw the secret of human nature there was another disco song which you all know i will survive and i will survive is about zero or woman whose boyfriend you know sarah lives there and she's. out some violence my mother love the song she didn't know the lyrics she just knew the refrain and there are a frame for her was the war

sorrow. players. were. last night i spent several hours several unpleasant hours reading and rereading their paper presented by dr finkelstein and i find it disturbing in a way which is not easy for me. the paper is suffused with press and hatred and i strongly hope that when the proceedings of this conference are printed with such parts of this paper will not be included in the.

invite that dr finkelstein to speak we have in the expression in english the truth is often a bit ter pill to swallow we are supposed to be seriously examining history but you mention a few words about jewish collaborators and people get so upset this is i'm sorry to say it's a form of emotional blackmail he says hamas is not recognized by the united states because hamas won't recognize israel the logical question is can you name a single israeli government official political party which has ever recognized a palestinian state with then its internationally legal borders.

you know i'm on ok how about international law then where of course you agree with that they say occupied palestinian territories the whole of the west bank and gaza you agree with the core no to the point yes i agree with the folks in this you know very well this is a. decision with the full by fall of the necessity to implement do you agree with their opinion. do you agree with their opinion.

is what i'm the argument which i think as a certain amount of credibility as the argument that there was a look at this so the argument goes something like this i'll start as a special meaning for a jew graph from a book that will go on our interview for the point of view of history of the jewish oh i'll stand has a special resonance for the jewish people to imagine i'd sure stay in argentina you know in uganda or elsewhere simply the work of the jewish people who made no sense i'm bashing the jewish state out start made

sense for jewish. we're talking to professor alan dershowitz he's author of a new book it's called the case for israel intimate with norman finkelstein among his books the holocaust industry and n.h. and reality and the israel palestine conflict now one thousand nine hundred eighty four one joan peters published a book called from time immemorial the book was universally recognized by serious scholars to be a fraud without wanting to toot my own horn i'm largely recognized as the person who exposed the for what. i know that book inside out i read it at least four times and i went through eighteen hundred and fifty four footnotes. i started to read your book mr dershowitz. i then came to chapter one footnotes ten foot no the left and footnote twelve footnote thirteen footnote fourteen

footnote fifteen footnotes sixteen all of the quotes are from joan peters may or so from joan peters but you have a long quote here from mark twain and pages twenty three to twenty four i turned to joan peters page one fifty nine to sixty the identical quote from twain with with the ellipse ease is in the you know that meaning is the twain quote ranty a lip is the way to liberate france or a bit at the key of the ellipse sees in the same places the identical quote from twain with the ellipses in the same places it's been why then it really has stood mr dershowitz i don't what's your point is it that is a correct let me finish mr i want to ask you guys have is it a direct is it an accurate quote of twain that there is very clear it is not of plagiarism to quote marks exactly excepts not except that you cite mark twain and

not shown peters i'm a professor sir i know what plagiarism is. is each expression true my. mother means to a writer to use a month or two to dust if there she was this book made of cloth i wouldn't even use it as a schmuck. in the read you made to challenge my positions he accused me of plagiarism his charge was that because i used quotations from mark twain for example which he says i originally found. in. a woman named peter's book i had to cite the mark twain quotation not to mark twain himself which is of course what you're supposed to do according to the chicago manual and all other standard

manuals but i was obliged to cite it to the peters book and fact cited peter's a times in fact i didn't find the mark twain quote in the peter's book as soon as he accused me of plagiarism i went to harvard university and i said there's been this accusation i insist that you investigated please put an investigator on it they put their pocket former president of harvard with whom i had not had particularly good relations over the years and derek bach came to the conclusion that there was absolutely no basis for any plagiarism.

you're listening to worldview from chicago public radio and we've been talking a day with norman finkelstein assistant professor of political science at the paul finkelstein it's always had a controversial ads but the controversy never ends in his conflict with harvard's alan dershowitz it began in the democracy now radio program several years ago when he alleged that dershowitz his book a case for israel was plagiarized more recently dershowitz is not i don't want to campaign against illegal schemes can you get all the president of all university has about the middle of this month to decide and that was dr finkelstein he's a pastor at the paul university who might get his tenure on tuesday if the university allows and but how can people like this be changing our children in the class of us thanks for joining us i'm going to start off by also where things that i know you're a ten year old. had you become too hot for american academia the american association of university professors has been watching. the demise of the american

higher education of the ministration. you know why don't you get rid of my memory. then you. think. now my. i. know the flow university and myself reach a settlement this is the whole universe the state. today we are free to the

resolution of our dispute with professor finkelstein. as a part of that resolution he has agreed to resign effective immediately. professor finkelstein is a prolific scholar and an outstanding teacher the university thanks him thank you thank you thank you the university thanks him for his contributions and his service. i know a great deal about the finkelstein tenure case because the paul asked me to write

a letter on finkelstein which i did and then i followed the case very closely from start to finish and i think this is an open and shut case i think that finkelstein should have gotten tenure he's not a teacher he's a propagandist he's not a scholar he simply writes screeds the scandal was that paul university ever appointed him in the first place they appointed him because hard left professors who didn't care at all about his lack of scholarship just like his ideological. radicalism and lowered the standards to appoint him so it was a good decision of a deployed university and it was a good decision for academic standards in general what he expects the shorts was going to hear cases dershowitz of being a liar and a plagiarist what is he going to expect when to us what's to keep quiet did he know all the kind of connections the dershowitz has in the united states so why don't you tell it like on campus not so i mean normal so person wouldn't have done

anything right so paul what do you expect right i don't feel it was that he should downplay the issue of plagiarism i didn't think it at first but in the news and wouldn't issue the pity so there should it's a plagiarist here's it's not significant but significant is the material about the history of. it he did i thought he would put it in a separate article just drop. thank . you. thank you. in my view most of this talk about civility is

a red herring when you consider that our best universities eagerly recruit in dubai the bull war criminals whether it was colombia that sought out kissinger whether it was george howell which employed kirkpatrick or stands for which now has rumsfeld when you consider that professors in our best universities advocate torture and the order medic destruction of villages after a terrorist attack when you consider all this becomes clear that the question of civility whether one treats his or her critics according to emily post's rules of etiquette. however rio the question is is by comparison a meaningless sideshow or just a transparent pretext for the gnawing

a person the right to teach an account of his or her unpopular political beliefs thank you. to the outside world the conflict in lebanon seemed to stop some of. the fighting stopped about one thousand two hundred people killed most of the civilians the map of web allies of the middle east to be drawn in ways that no one expects or. many of those who smile at them in the capitals of the west of since a visit to the states the structure of my.

welcome you and ask that you take a moment of silence to honor the lives of those who died in palestine iraq and lebanon. some of you might know that dr norman was born in new york city led to a jewish family that survived the nazi camps. but our guest heard stories from his

parents of the nazi massacres or the reincarnation of those stories in the streets today. we have a challenge and i know that that the challenge is to be both principle and reasonable at the same all i've had and it means sound i'm reasonable you're going to lose the international community but that's that when they come out i don't think that's the way to win the struggle like that and that you. are better at this very important that we have americans who want to assure that luck or the american people or i guess that but a syrian lights we know when the people knows anything. on the site.

there was. room for. that. was. the place i could have given a rather awkward tork you know wrong live on struggle and smash those are innocent of the crap life. i don't believe i think it's pointless. i did when i can which is pleased that we intelligently about possibilities for change in the us. but it's been tough in the us one woman you know sort of rugby how. a prayer of a profound thing comes out from the simple person she was lying in bed she's seventy two years old and i asked her how old are you she's and she lives in little

shop of. rock concert start open sewage cold and she said i'm twelve years old or twelve years old she was you're twelve because i love palestine and i was twelve years old enough to that there's been a life. so i'm told it was just. it was a good learning you remember things back there. after ago harbor. and after the shame not done robbie well by the odd and after the anger over them although there still remains the hope. i'm not. and i know that i can get in a lot of trouble for what i'm about to say while a man you can. see it on the map. but i think that there is a lot represents the hope like a not better than has been lost you must and sometimes i think i had an effect it's

a very good thing and now i'm going to you and has inflicted and hezbollah and huge defeat. could be at a time just for you have to keep knocking them into a while and that and you also will doubt about i don't see how they reach their. yarwood. but if i get to get his fame has come from one of his books about the holocaust and other books involved in the palestine conflict. the month is out when you. visited lebanon meetings are scheduled for you with various political leaders and some a hezbollah leader so there is a fundamental principle people have the right to defend their country from foreign

occupiers and people have the right to defend their country from invaders who are destroying their country and that to me is a very very sick our men three and uncomplicated question. look who's not in the same classes as bala. position to lob missiles and all that as well like the third of the country and inhabitable. he's not a clear and present danger in the way that hamas is what he like him and name of terrorism. people who are creating a climate. incremental in which. israel's legitimacy is no longer considered axiomatic in which violence against civilians is no longer axiomatic.

it's more more of a qualitatively more then the usual this content of proof in the fields with the world. i see it as. radical is

unfair and therefore it has to be radically changed other people who think it's wrong but the interact with these are not radically. the world go you know who you choose through whose eyes. through whose are is you choose to see the world. this is a radically unfair plan is. and it requires a radical change. in.

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