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is being built to provide protection for at least one hundred gays against another radiation catastrophe. underbrush you can see it is changing the law to give fines all communities said this instead of prison some minor crimes it's part of the country's ongoing criminal known. would fail to revive overcrowded jails by introducing clannish want to fit the crime. of the next hour a special report about american academic norman folk insisting an ardent critic of israeli and u.s. middle east policy he's a moderate who stood strong reactions with some calling him a self hating jury while others see him as a beacon of inspiration stay with us for an up close portrait next here on out. i'm not saying i was an absolutely top form but you did great with the media now as an opportunity to grab on a couple things like what was the last question about palestinian terrorism well i thought i answered that well you get the green line is you know be in the media

smart with a focus and house and tear and then if you know israeli cares i mean i think it's a question of priorities i spoke for two hours we're going to people showed an enormous amount of tolerance and then me speak for two hours and therefore i have an obligation to let people have their say no i'm saying things which deeply upset many people in the audience if they controlled themselves for two hours and showed me their respect and i have an obligation to let them lead out their feelings and thoughts and complain about the media to get this done and i don't want to be i don't want to use the media i don't like expressions like that i don't want to success which is based on ruthlessness a success that's based on. the victory of scoundrels and economy at the end cosigning street you know that said arthur fine is profiting

from the holocaust just like the industry that he criticized and using the memory of his parents to profit off and that's basically what it is when you think about him well. it's a strange way to profit to lose your job and be thrown into exile in a place where you have don't want to be after fifty years of living in new york it's an odd sort of profiteering right end up living in chicago and. losing my job i can say i was a happy household my mother she always tries to derive lessons from what she experienced she was always analyzing what happened she thought that you know in the tens you saw the secret of human nature. there was another disco song which you all know i will survive and i will survive is about no one man whose

boyfriend you know dumped sarah leaves her and she's. out some violence my mother loved the song she didn't know the lyrics she just knew the referring and the rest frame for her was the war sorrow. players. were. last night i spent several hours several unpleasant always reading and rereading their paper presented by dr finkelstein and i found it disturbing in a way which is not easy for me. the paper is suffused with

press and hatred and i strongly hope that when the proceedings of this conference are printed because such parts of this paper will not be included in them. dr finkelstein to speak we have an expression in english the truth is often a deterrent pill to swallow we are supposed to be seriously examining history but you mention a few words about jewish collaborators and people get so upset this is i'm sorry to say it's a form of emotional blackmail he says hamas is not recognized by the e.u. in the united states because hamas won't recognize israel the logical question is

can you name a single israeli government official political party which has ever recognized a palestinian state within its internationally legal borders. who are you on your own ok how about international law where of course you agree with that they say occupied palestinian territories the whole of the west bank and gaza you agree with the court no the point yes i meet with the. indians you know very well this is a. decision with the full by all necessary to implement do you agree with their opinion. do you agree with their opinion.

by you here is what i'm the argument which i think adds a certain amount of credibility as the argument but i want to look at this if so the argument goes something like this house armed has a special meaning for a jew the vast form of good will go in our interview for the order of three of the jewish. palestine has a special resonance for the true issue. to imagine i'm sure stay

in argentina go and uganda or elsewhere simply the work of the jewish people who made no sense i'm bashing the jewish state out start made sense for the jewish people. we're talking to professor alan dershowitz he's author of a new book it's called the case for israel intimate with norman finkelstein among his books the holocaust industry and n.h. and reality and the israel palestine conflict now one thousand nine hundred eighty four one joan peters published a book called from time immemorial the book was universally recognized by serious scholars to be a fraud. without wanting to toot my own horn a martin recognized as the person who exposed to freud i know that book inside out i read it at least four times and i went through all eighteen hundred and fifty

four footnotes i started to read your book mr dershowitz. i then came to chapter one footnotes ten foot no the eleven footnote twelve footnote thirteen footnote fourteen footnote fifteen footnotes sixteen all of the quotes are from joan peters may or so from joan peters but you have a long quote here from mark twain on pages twenty three to twenty four i turn to joan peters page one fifty nine to sixty the identical quote from twain with with the a lip sees is in the you know that meaning is the twain quote ran the olympics he went liberate france or a bit at the key of the ellipse sees in the same places the identical quote from twain with the ellipses in the same places it's been wife then read here really has

stood mr dershowitz i don't what's your point is a god is a correct let us finish never sure when i would ask you that have is it a direct is it an accurate quote of twain that are very clear it is not of plagiarism to quote marks exactly except it's not exactly a cite mark twain and not shown peter's i'm a professor i know what plagiarism is. is each expression for my. mother means to turn around and use a month or two to the dust. if there sure was this book made of course i wouldn't even use it as a schmuck. in the radio to me he didn't challenge my positions he accused me of plagiarism his charge was that because i used quotations from mark twain for

example which he says i originally found in. a woman named peter's book i had to cite the mark twain quotation not to mark twain himself which is of course what you're supposed to do according to the chicago manual and all other standard manuals but i was obliged to cite it to the peters book and facts added peters eight times in fact i didn't find the mark twain quote in the peters book the soon as he accused me of plagiarism i went to harvard university and i said there's been this accusation i insist that you investigated please put an investigator on it they put bach the former president of harvard with whom i had not had particularly good relations over the years and derek bach came to the conclusion that there was absolutely no basis for any plagiarism.

you're listening to worldview from chicago public radio and we've been talking today with norman finkelstein assistant professor of political science at the paul i think you'll see it's always had a controversial ads but the controversy never ends in his conflict with harvard's alan dershowitz it began in the democracy now radio program several years ago when he alleged that dershowitz his book the case for israel was plagiarized more recently dershowitz is not one campaign against illegal students can you get a president of all university has about the middle. this month to decide and dr finkelstein these are festered to paul university who might get his tenure on tuesday if the university allows it but how can people like this be teaching our children in the class first thanks for joining us i got to start by asking where

things stand on your a ten year old. how do you become too hot for american academia to the american association of university professors has been watching. the demise of the american higher education of the ministration. you know how to get rid of the memory. and you. think. i think. now i think. now my. favorite. was.

a few moments ago the flow university and myself reached a settlement this is the code university state. today we are free to the resolution of our dispute with professor finkelstein. as a part of that resolution he has agreed to the design affected immediately. professor finkelstein is a prolific scholar and an outstanding teacher the university thanks him thank you thank you thank the university very simply for his contribution. and his service.

i know a great deal about the finkelstein tenure case because paul asked me to write a letter on finkelstein which i did and then i followed the case very closely from start to finish and i think this is an open and shut case i think that finkelstein should have got tenure he's not a teacher he's a propagandist he's not a scholar he simply writes screeds the scandal was that paul university ever appointed him in the first place they appointed him because hard left professors who didn't care at all about his lack of scholarship just like his ideological. radicalism and lowered the standards to appoint him so it was a good decision of a deploy university and it was a good decision for academic standards in general what he expects the shorts was

going to he says dershowitz of being a liar and a plagiarist what is he going to expect but just what's to keep quiet did he know the kind of connection for dershowitz has a united states so why don't you tell it like on campus not so owning or most own person wouldn't have done anything right so paul what do you expect right unfeeling was that he should downplay the issue of plagiarism i didn't think a person would in the news and wouldn't issue the piece there should it's a plagiarist here's it's not significant but significant is the material about the history before. it he did i thought he would put it in separate or just drop. thank. you.

thank you. in my view most of this talk about civility is a red herring when you consider that our best universities eagerly recruit in dubai the bull war criminals whether it was colombia that sought out kissinger whether it was george howell which employed kirk patrick or stands for which now has rumsfeld when you consider that professors in our best universities advocate torture and the automatic destruction of villages after a terrorist attack when you consider all this becomes clear that the question of civility whether one treats his or her critics according to emily post's

rules of etiquette. however rio the question is is by comparison a meaningless sideshow or just a transparent pretext for the knowing a person the right to teach an account of his or her unpopular political beliefs thank you. to the outside world the conflict in lebanon seemed to stop. the fighting stopped about one thousand two hundred people killed most of them civilians of the map of web allies of the middle east to be drawn in ways that no one expects or. many of

those who smile at them. because of the west since if it is the stakes of destruction of my. welcome you and i ask that you take a moment of silence to honor the lives of those who died in palestine iraq and

lebanon. some of you might know that dr norman was born in new york city led to a jewish family that survived the nazi camps. but our guest heard stories from his parents of the nazi massacres or the reincarnation of those stories in the streets today. we have a challenge and i look at it the challenge is to be both principle and reasonable at the same all i've had and it needs sound on reasonable you're going to lose the international community but that's that when they come out i don't think that's the way to win the struggle like that and that you. are better at this very important that we have americans here who want to assure that the knock on the american people against that but

a syrian lights we know when the people knows anything. on the site. was. that. was. scripted so you could have given a rather well record torque you know long live on struggle and smash their inner strength of their craft by the. i don't believe in b. i think it's pointless. i did with i care which is pleased me intelligently about possibilities for change in the u.s. . but it's been tough you know there was one woman you know sort of rugby or

both. a profound thing comes out from the simple person she was lying in bed she's seventy two years old and i asked her how old are you she's and she looks a little shuffle. wracking first open sewage i suppose. she said i'm twelve years old or twelve years old if you're twelve because i looked i was starting out of twelve years old enough to that there's been a life. from twelve years of age and. it was a good learning you remember things like that. after and go barber. after the shame on robbie well by the odd and after the anger about them although there still remains the hope.

and i know that i can get in a lot of trouble for what i'm about to say while a man you can. see it on the map. but i think that there is a lot represents the hope like and i thought and hezbollah you must and sometimes i think i had an effect if it's a very good thing i know what i'm going to tell you and has inflicted on the hezbollah huge defeat and i was sorry as you might done a bit of time to spare you have to keep knocking them until they heard what i am and got and you also got about i don't see how they reached their son and. yeah i would. let them get to be his fame has come from one of his books about the holocaust and other books and knowledge of the israel palestine conflict.

and the month is out when you. visited lebanon meetings are scheduled for you with various political leaders and some a hezbollah leader there is a fundamental principle people have the right to defend their country from foreign occupiers and people have the right to defend their country from invaders who are destroying their country and that to me is a very very sick our men three and uncomplicated question. look he's not in the same class as bala you know he's a position to lob missiles and all that as well like the third of the country uninhabitable. he's not a clear and present danger in the way that hamas is what he like him and name of terrorism. people who are creating a climate. incremental in which. israel's

legitimacy is no longer considered axiomatic in which violence against civilians is no longer axiomatic and yearn.

for more of a qualitatively more then the usual this content of earth in the fields with the world. i see a. radically unfair and therefore it has to be radically changed other people who think it's wrong but the interact with these are not radically. the world go you know who you choose through whose eyes. through whose are is you choose to see the world. this is radically unfair. and it requires a radical change in the.

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