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a new protection shield is being built to provide protection for an least one hundred years against another radiation catastrophe. and russia considers changing the law to give fines or community service instead of prison for minor crimes part of the country's ongoing criminal north aiming to relieve the cloud of jails by introducing punishment to fit the crime. of next hour special report about american academic norman finkelstein an odd and critical way israel and us middle east policy here's a man who's does strong reactions with some calling him a self hating jew while others see him as a big can of inspiration stay with us for an up close purport next year and elsie. you know the famous joke a journalist goes around them asks a russian of oh and it's really the same question he first goes to the russian
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excuse me what's your opinion of the meat shortage the russian says what's in the pinion. the reporter then goes to the pope excuse me what's your opinion of the meat shortage the pogos what's meat. you know goes to the israeli excuse me what's your opinion of the meat shortage is really replies what's excuse me. norman finkelstein speaks for no one but himself and a handful of people who have such hatred for america. famous in this recent tragic events should be that if a person walked in the streets of london going to treat people he could probably be killed before he met. her through her every single member of my family on both sides was exterminated
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both of my parents who i know who i work i know i thrive. at it for five and exactly because of the one food my parents taught me and my proof simply and i will not be frightened when israel commits its crimes against the palestinians. norman finkelstein is a professor of political science he's been to the center of numerous heated academic and political disputes he can. who has ever managed to stifle you look at you there's
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a plethora of books the rise and fall of palestine the holocaust industry reflections on the exploitation of jewish suffering beyond what's been the. huge increase in debate hasn't been able. to look to as a way in some dusty room unable to speak. today a debate and a new book called the case for israel it's by alan dershowitz who is one of the nation's foremost appellate lawyers felix frankfurter professor of law at harvard
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law school and why don't we start with you laying out the thesis of your latest book the case for israel well i want to write a progressive liberal case for the two state solution which i think that most israelis favor and have favored for a long time i argue in the book that no country in history faced with comparable threats both external and internal has ever tried so hard to comply with the rule of law i compare israel favorably to the united states in this regard norman finkelstein your response i was asked to comment in the sky whose new book i went home purchased one copy in fact i purchased two copies i read the book very carefully i did with what someone serious does. with the book. i read the text i went through the footnotes and went through it very carefully there's only one conclusion one can reach having read the book and this is a scholarly judgment it's not an ad hominum attack mr dershowitz has concocted
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a fraud. my parents were survivors of knobs and. sometimes i was. because. i thought it was going to be like opening up this new skates everything is going to come out and i wouldn't be able to handle it. the one. my first involvement publicly in the israel palestine conflict was the israeli invasion of love between ninety two.
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and the estimates or you know somewhere around twenty thousand. of the womanly civilians were killed. and so i started to read for a short sleep on the israel palestine conference. so now i have both the event and the scholarly commitment and then obviously i'm jewish so i have a personal commitment and the three came together. and i saw one back from the occupied territories cheering the first intifada the one to live with a couple pounds to the families. to fill up enduring relationship to.
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normal was always a very political person even in tenth grade eleventh grade he was always very political he was probably more political than anybody that i knew with the time and we were many of us very political beings being against the war in vietnam was very was involved that was the thing to do but norman was truly was truly against it. you know i could understand why you weren't torn apart by what the u.s. is doing to you. have these scenes on television you know real cruel things to my shoes being incinerated from my parents i got the moral commitment but when i got from professor chomsky was a way to articulate it intellectually without losing the passion and
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commitment it was a way to do both when i met him. the time he was a graduate student he was a graduate student at princeton. and the middle east department working on the history zionism and at that time a book appeared to draw on peter's book from time immemorial which was receiving an enormous praise everywhere under it's a lot of reviews the greatest thing since chocolate ice cream. the poll was completely preposterous and worthless the book said that there were no palestinians in palestine until the zionists came along and made the desert bloom and then the palestinians began to arrive to palestine it was the book
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that was a no value whatsoever it simply recycled very old and stale israeli propaganda but it was the book that american jews want to have because it completely whitewashed israel. and the book was a huge success and received every accolade in america until norman finkelstein wrote a longer view article in which he exposed the spurious scholarship behind that book and i send out my findings to like twenty five people tied them up. and then once are they morning i got a quote from professor chomsky you know this is noam chomsky and he said i read your writings in the base on the right to me i mean is going to be controversial in a generally it isn't but there are certain issues in certain subjects where debate can be difficult.
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this book is the holocaust industry and moment think of steen. welcome to you thank you for having me controversial and i can't not use words being over you have my. own opinion i don't i don't even know so that all of us i remain faithful. to the horrendous suffering of my parents yet they're not see how the course has who all ceased to be a source of morrow or his sorrow and mightn't it has become
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a straight out extortion racket i have full of american jews have a fact of holy hijack than i see how the course of the last mayo europe. these how local on tough having fun on the main phone or under an anti semitism in europe as well as the main purpose is a holocaust denial i do slightly disagree with the told opus voice what it discusses these betters because i do feel. remember
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a specially organized brooms is costly it doesn't just happen it isn't just done by volunteer. there is no avoid something like that organization that we call the dentist. this is not about some construction of memory this is about people using history for their political purposes there is no new anti semitism this is pure fabrication. there is a creation of a new anti semitism to serve the same purpose as was used for the past twenty years the holocaust industry to divert attention from what's being done to the palestinians so everybody is talking about the new anti semitism
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instead of what's being done to the palestinians and the wonderful inversion to her israel and its supporters and to the victims and her and the palestinians and their supporters into the victimizer turning reality wholly on its head. my grandmother did not like that because. she was afraid. and she was very cold. she felt. i was frankenstein's monster in this case finkelstein sometimes i have taken her to literally. taken it too much to heart. and. she felt i was destroying myself.
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and they missed he wrote a book called the holocaust industry the whole point of the page has been such a trivialize i am not blocking the whole point of the book was to trivialize to minimalize jewish suffering that took place in the holocaust that is not. i think to do with the conflicts going on in the middle east the only thing that it does is it adds to the tension on campus he made his entire career is based on was me like.
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they. were through a bit of respect i'm an old timer i know how deeply frustrating it can be when you're sitting in the audience and somebody goes on for an hour and a half saying things that you find obviously utterly loathed some repulsive and also you think factually incorrect and. i think i think people should have more than sixty seconds as i said i'll leave it to the patience of the audience when you feel it's going on too long you know how they express your disapproval on the wife they should be allowed to go on. joining your speech you made a lot of references to jewish people as well as certain people in your audience not just people in general but certain people especially in your audience to nazis you
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know that is extremely offensive when certain people. and they're also extremely offensive to people who actually suffered the nazi world i don't respect that anymore i really don't i don't like and i don't respect the crocodile tears to come to the crocodile theory. i loudly to finish and i live in a fear of my made it very very certain. allow me to finish. i. oh mike well i don't like to play before an audience the hi-lo course card but since now i feel ok now i was serious compelled to write farmer welcome to our. merry merry. shylock
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one thanks for iraq whether our troops. my mate my bro where from mike i'm going i'm from tracy have every single member of my family i'm my father right. i'm like well i was. just another rider was at auschwitz concentration throughout my my mother was in my prime concentration camp every single member of my family on both sides was exterminated both of my former who of course i know are rising. profile fully and exactly the crux of the rescues my parents taught me and my proof simply that i will not be silent when israel commits its crimes against the palestinians i consider nothing more openness. to use
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various suffering and. they're trying to justify not what you're not brutal was very few can remember not only for the poem right it is real very clear it's ok to me and so i reply you know i do longer to be in him a day or browbeating by my peers if you had you know you would be crying for the palestinians not. norman finkelstein is a classic anti-semite. invokes the oldest stereotypes against the jews if he were not a jew that is she i don't think he is a jew he is as someone once put it he's jewish only honest parents side. if he were not a jewish person or a person of jewish heritage with a name like finkelstein nobody would have any doubt that he was an anti-semite it's
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only because he's jewish sometimes i feel that it's suffocating to the secular jew hating you good to be critical of israel. many israelis are critical of israeli policies and many israelis or. anti zionist even i had no problem with people challenging and critiquing zionism israel israeli policies i would never call a person merely did that anti-semitic what does goes well beyond that. thank . you is the real question whatever you feel about the justice or injustice of the establishment of the state of israel whatever you think about that that's a historical question there is not
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a current political question all of the palestinians are the palestinians intitled to their self-determination there are two people living in doubt when one people have the full rights of statehood in any percent of the land and the people who occupied that land for several thousand years consecutively are being there not their right to self-determination in twenty percent of their homeland thank you thank you. i don't entirely agree with the previous speaker. this is the israeli palestinian conflict he says the israeli palestinian front of the arab this whole conflict the wall street journal journalists killed on the
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hill goes to pakistan. this is the story of islamic extremists. and he gets kidnapped now they kidnapped him because he was an american journalist a battle over you sleep like old american jew it was he must be a cia agent. but once it kidnapped him they discovered they would school who's a jew. and as a matter of fact technically speaking it was really. a go so so i did about it. but then they didn't confess on camera. speaking to video camera cops not unlike this one forced into two thessalonians camera i am a jew the son of a jew less and then they slit his throat. the people who did that have not been stopped it is really checked for people develop an episode as
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well that. no matter what all the roots of this call for it all we've evolved into a situation in which a large segments of the world. it's hard work in the western world and semitism is almost vanished in this classical sense large sections of the world and fit in fact it is something that's almost indistinguishable to satisfy the entire world community say between one in six states depending on the vote the entire world community believes that the palestinians should have their right to self-determination in twenty percent of their homeland yes real and united states are denying them that right it's as simple as that and you can drag in that conservatism the holocaust daniel pearl and everything else but it can't change the fundamental facts the fundamental facts are these the entire world community supports a two state settlement along the june one thousand nine hundred sixty seven borders israel in the united states the chief rejectionists in the world are opposed to it
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. many issues with mr finkelstein's position chief among them is his notion that really this cut this situation which has persisted in the middle east for decades really comes down to something very simple it's all the fault to be israelis but i think there are a number of reasons that could explain this for instance popularity with those individuals who support palestinian side of the middle east question first is with . a well read and their take to it spokesperson of their cause said in the bow and i have to really be quite candid here the fact of the matter is is that norman finkelstein is a member of the jewish community and have a member of the jewish community speak out against the state of israel gives his words a certain cachet that no one jew or palestinian spokesperson. would simply would not have.
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say of course were about israel. let's be clear about one thing in my view as a release have the right to be there they have the right to exercise self-determination in. what's his star power i have no question in my mind about that and i have many friends who live there many people who i deeply respect i have no interest whatsoever in playing this game of bashing israel that's not my thing but but. allow me the blood for those of you who are snickering thought just as it would be shameful shameful for any german during world war two to give
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a lecture singing the praises of germany and just as during the us war in vietnam for me to sing the praises of the us. amid the horror and amid the suffering i'm not going to sing the praises of israel when the war was over when palestinians have equal rights when there is justice they are very happy to join along with everybody in singing israel's accomplishments and criticizing its faults but not while and when it's torturing the palestinian three three. and. this is late much less. complete annihilation stay here. we do have the problem but every
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time and effort is may on the palestinian or in the europeans to negotiate an end to the violent attacks against israel which i have no fear at all calling terrorist so long as you have no fear calling the leader of the state of israel one of the main terrorists in the world thank. you news today violence has once again fled up. these are the images and seeing from history that can attach to. operations or on the day.
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