because. she was afraid. and she was very good for the. chief though. our lives frankenstein's monster. we don't have the problem but every. effort is made on the palestinian or in the european side to negotiate in to the violent attacks against israel which i have no fear of war call being cowards so long goes you have no fear calling the leader of the state of israel one of the main terrorists in the world. we are supposed to be seriously examining history but you mention a few words about jewish culture happening and people get so upset

this is i'm sorry to say it's a form of emotional blackmail. to the headlines now that shape the week signals the bad times are over russia nato relations as president get of a grace to help the alliance on missile defense and anti drugs missions in afghanistan. russian businessmen quick to brute charges of weapons smuggling and terrorism but of course in new york moscow calls for a fair trial and blames washington for pressuring the legal process. no

jail for israeli soldiers in the palestinian boy as a human shield instead they get a three month suspended sentence for forcing a nine year old to check for bombs. across the continent roma communities affected by european governments being left without shelter or health care or seen and it's a crime to make ends meet. the next the first part of our close up portrayed norman finkelstein the outspoken critic of israel and the jewish son of holocaust survivors. you know the famous joke. a journalist goes around them asks a russian of oh and it's really the same question he first goes to the russian excuse me what's your opinion of the meat shortage the russian says what's in the pinion. the reporter then goes to the pope excuse me what's your

opinion of the meat shortage the pogos what's meat. you know he goes to the israeli excuse me what's your opinion of the meat shortage is really replies what's excuse me. norman finkelstein speaks for no one but himself and a handful of people who have such hatred for america. famous in this recent tragic events showed that if a person walking the streets of london going to treat people he could probably be killed before he could. do for every single member of my family on both sides was exterminated both of my parents who i know who i look i know have privacy. advocates precisely

and exactly because some know refuse my parents for me and might simply and i will not be fighting with israel commits its crimes against the palestinian. norman finkelstein is a professor of political science he's going to the center of numerous heated academic and political disputes he can. who has ever managed to stifle you look at you there's a plethora of books the rise and fall of palestine the holocaust industry reflections on the exploitation of jewish suffering.

huge increase in debate hasn't been able. to look as well in some dusty room unable to speak. today a debate and a new book called the case for israel it's by alan dershowitz who is one of the nation's foremost appellate lawyers felix frankfurter professor of law at harvard law school and why don't we start with you laying out the thesis of your latest book the case for israel well i want to write a progressive liberal case for the two state solution which i think that most

israelis favor and have favored for a long time i argue in the book that no country in history faced with comparable threats both external and internal has ever tried so hard to comply with the rule of law i compare israel favorably to the united states in this regard norman finkelstein your response i was asked to comment in the sky whose new book i went home purchased one copy in fact i purchased two copies i read the book very carefully i did with what someone serious does. with the book. i read the text i went through the footnotes and went through it very carefully there's only one conclusion one can reach having read the book and this is a scholarly judgment it's not an ad hominum attack mr dershowitz has concocted a fraud. my parents were survivors of knobs and.

sometimes i was. because. i thought it was going to be like. opening up this new skates everything is going to come out and i wouldn't be able to handle it. did no one know. my first involvement publicly in the israel palestine conflict was the israeli invasion of love between ninety. two. and the estimates or just somewhere around twenty thousand towers to. overwhelmingly civilians were killed. and so i started to read for racial sleep

and israel palestine. so now i have both the event and the scholarly commitment and then obviously i'm jewish so i have a personal commitment and the three came together and i saw one back from the occupied territories chairing the first intifada i went to live with a couple pounds to the families. to fill up enduring relationships. norman was always a very political person even in tenth grade eleventh grade he was always

very political he was probably more political than anybody that i knew with the time and we were many of us very political beings being against the war in vietnam was very was involved that was the thing to do but norman was truly was truly against it. you know i could understand why you weren't torn apart by what the us was doing the. right thing seems on television the little girls at least in my shoes of being incinerated from my parents i got the moral commitment but when i got from professor chomsky was a way to articulate it intellectually without losing the passion and commitment it was a way to do both when i met him. the time he was a graduate student he was

a graduate student at princeton. in the middle east department working on the history zionism and at that time a book appeared in a john peters book from time immemorial which was receiving an enormous praise everywhere under it's a lot of reviews the greatest thing that's chocolate ice cream. the bull was completely preposterous and worthless the book said that there were no palestinians in palestine until the zionists came along and made the desert bloom and then the palestinians began to arrive to palestine it was the book that was a no value whatsoever it simply recycled very old and stale israeli propaganda but it was the book that american jews want to have because it

completely whitewashed israel. and the book was a huge success and received every accolade in america until norman finkelstein wrote a longer view article in which he exposed the spurious scholarship behind that book and i send out my findings to like twenty five people tied them up. and then one side of the morning i got a quote from professor chomsky you know this is noam chomsky he said i read your writings and they saw on the right to me i mean is going to be controversial in a generally it isn't but there are certain issues in certain subjects when debate can be difficult.

this book is the holocaust industry and moment think a steam engine the author of welcome to you thank you for having me controversial and i can't not use words mean over you have my. own opinion i don't i don't even know so throw at us i remain faithful. to the horrendous suffering of my parents yet then i see how the course has a long ceased to be a source of morrow or his sorrow and mightn't it has become a straight out extortion racket i have full of american jews have

a fact of holy hijack than i see how the course of the last mayo europe. these how one tough have had one of them a phone or. an adhesive that isn't in europe as well as the main perpetrators of the holocaust denial i do slightly disagree with the tone opus voice what it discusses these betters because i do feel that remember a specially organized brooms is costly it doesn't just happen it isn't

just done by volunteer. there is no avoid something like that organization that we call the dentist. this is not about some construction of memory this is about people using history for their political purposes there is no new anti semitism this is pure fabrication. there is a creation of a new anti semitism to serve the same purpose as was used for the past twenty years the holocaust industry to divert attention from what's being done to the palestinians so everybody is talking about the new anti semitism instead of what's being done to the palestinians and the wonderful inversion

to her israel and its supporters and to the victims and her and the palestinians and their supporters into the victimizers turning reality wholly on its head. my grandmother did not like her because. she was afraid. and she was very close. she felt. i was frankenstein's monster in this case finkelstein sometimes i had taken her literally. taken it too much to heart. and. she felt i was destroying myself.

and david wrote a book called the holocaust industry the whole point of the parish council to trivialise i am not blocking the whole point of the book risk to trivialize to minimalize jewish suffering that took place in the holocaust that is not. i think to do with the conflicts going on in the middle east the only thing that it does is it adds to the tension on campus he made his entire career is based on was me like you.

were probably respect i'm an old timer i know how deeply frustrating it can be when you're sitting in the audience and somebody goes on for an hour and a half saying things that you find i believe utterly loathed some repulsive and also you think factually incorrect and. i think i think people should have more than sixty seconds as i said i'll leave it to the patience of the audience when you feel it's going on too long you know how they express your disapproval on the wife they should be allowed to go on. sharing your speech you made a lot of references to jewish people as well as certain people in your audience not just people in general but certain people especially in your audience to nazis you know that is extremely offensive when certain people. and they're also extremely offensive to people who actually suffered the nazi world i don't respect that

anymore i really don't i don't like and i don't respect the crocodile here or. the crocodile theory. i loudly to finish and i live in a fear of my meat is very very certain. allow me to finish. i. almost to play i don't like to play before an audience the holocaust card but since knowledge still come my way i feel compelled to write my late father well to our. no i raise my right raise. i. write my remark while her out

my right my brother was in my time and my friend tracy cared. every single member of my family and my family right. i was. ok and my father was at auschwitz concentration proud my my brother was in my prime concentration camp every single member of my family on both sides was exterminated most of my hair was to wonder where i could get off rises and if it precisely and exactly the price of the restrooms my parents taught me and my proof simply that i will not be silent when israel commits its crimes against the palestinians i consider nothing more opus pick a book to use very suffering and very well for them to try to justify not work you're not brutalization become

a member much of the poem right here is really very clear it's a guy to be and so i reply you know i do longer to be in him a day or browbeating by my peers if you had you know you would be crying for the palestinians thank you. norman finkelstein is a classic anti-semite. invokes the oldest stereotypes against the the jews if he were not a jew that is she i don't think he is a jew he is as someone once put it he's jewish only on his parents' side. if he were not a jewish person or. of jewish heritage with a name like finkelstein nobody would have any doubt that he was an interest so it's only because he's jewish sometimes i feel that it's a self hating job he's certainly a jew hating you no good to be critical of israel many israelis are critical of

israeli policies many israelis are. anti zionist even i have no problem with people challenging and critiquing zionism israel israeli policy i would never call a person merely did that anti-semitic what pincus name does goes well beyond that. thank. you is the real question whatever you feel about the justice or injustice of the establishment of the state of israel whatever you think about that that's a historical question there is not a current political question all of the palestinians are the palestinians intitled to their self their terminations there are two people living in doubt land

one people have the full rights of statehood eighty percent of the land and the people who occupied that land for several thousand years consecutively are being there not their right to self-determination in twenty percent of their homeland thank you thank you. i don't entirely agree with the previous speaker. this is the israeli palestinian conflict he sees israeli palestinians. rodent of the arab israel conflict a wall street journal journalist school done who will go to pakistan. to do some story on islamic extremists and he gets kidnapped now they kidnapped him because he

was an american journalist of the overview sleep like all american journalist he must be a cia agent. but also kidnapped him they discovered they would school who's a jew. and as a matter of fact technically speaking an israeli. they go so so i did about it. but then they didn't confess on camera. speaking to video camera cops or the like this will force them to to fess up camera i am a jew the son of a jew less and then they slit his throat. the people who did that have not been stopped it is really checked for people dig up another sort of israeli. no matter what all the roots of this conflict all we've evolved into a situation today in which a large segments of the world. tali well in the western world of the seventy's it

was almost savage and its classical says large sections of the world and fit in fact it was something that's almost indistinguishable from that he said to see the entire world community say between one in six states depending on the vote the entire world community believes that the palestinians should have their right to self-determination in twenty percent of their homeland is real and united states are denying them that right it's as simple as that and you can drag in that conservatism the holocaust daniel pearl and everything else but it can't change the fundamental facts the fundamental facts are these the entire world community supports a two state settlement along the june one thousand nine hundred sixty seven borders israel in the united states the chief rejectionists in the world are opposed to it . many issues with mr finkelstein's position but chief among them is his notion that really this cut

this situation which has persisted in the middle east for decades really comes down to something very simple it's all the fault of the israelis but i think there are a number of reasons that could explain this for instance popularity with those individuals who support palestinian side of the middle east question first is with . a well read and their take to it spokesperson of their cause said in the fall and i have to really be quite candid here the fact of the matter is that norman finkelstein is a member of the jewish community and have a member of the jewish community speak out against the state of israel gives his words a certain cachet that no one jew or a palestinian spokesperson. would simply would not. say of course were about israel. let's be clear about one thing and my view

as a release have the right to be there they have the right to exercise self-determination in. what's his star palestine i have no question in my mind about that and i have many friends who live there many people who i deeply respect i have no interest whatsoever in playing this game of bashing israel that's not my thing but but allow me to buy for those of you who are snickering but just as it would be shameful shameful for any german during world war two to give a lecture singing the praises of germany and just as during the us war in vietnam for me to sing the praises of the us. amid the horror and amid the suffering

i'm not going to sing the praises of israel when the war was over when palestinians have equal rights when there is justice they are very happy to join along with everybody in seeing israel's accomplishments and criticizing its faults but not while and when it's torturing the palestinian thank. thank. you. and. this is only one female way less. waste. heat. to hear. we do have the problem but every time and effort is may on the palestinian or in the europeans to negotiate an end

to the violent attacks against israel which i have no fear at all calling terrorist so long as you have no fear calling the leader of the state of israel one of the main terrorists in the world thank.

you.