welcome back this is our c.n.n. in this week's headlines. mosco tells may so it will get involved in their lives as a missile defense plans point zero but only as an equal vote in a historic summit in lisbon which declared and then stirred from take from both iraq. and. i did not get my liberty here and now the enemy. and all see the news crew has been arrested in the view as while filming protests against a military training school policy american special services dobs an assassin count by opponents. russian businessman victory denies charges of arms trafficking and terrorism at

a point in the us probably it's swift extradition from toronto news day. and an israeli military court has led to soldiers convicted of abusing a palestinian boy the human true full story on charges new from a caring a three year jail these soldiers were suspended for three months for making a nine year old boy open bugs they thought an explosives during the israeli also in gaza old was two years ago. and our program continues up next the second part of our close up portrait of norman philcon steen an american school and son a holocaust survivors whose fear is criticism of israeli policy in the middle east has seen him bond from that your state don't miss our special report next. i'm not saying i was an absolutely top form but you did great for media now as an opportunity to grab on a couple things like what was the last question about palestinian terrorism well i

thought i answered that well you getting line is you know be in the media smarter to focus and house in terror and then if you know it's really scary scary i mean i think it's a question of priorities i spoke for two hours we're going to people showed an enormous amount of tolerance and then me speak for two hours and therefore i have an obligation to let people have their say no i'm saying things which deeply upset many people in the audience if they controlled themselves for two hours and showed me their respect and i have an obligation to let them lead out their feelings and thoughts and complain about immediately get this done i don't want to be i don't want to use the media i don't like expressions like that i don't want to success which is based on ruthlessness a success that's based on. the victory of scoundrels and no one in a copy of the iconic screen no said arthur no sign is profiting from the

holocaust just like the industry that you criticize and using the memory of his parents to profit off and that's basically what you think about him well. it's a strange way to profit to lose your job and be thrown into exile in the place where you have don't want to be after fifty years of living in new york it's an odd sort of profiteering end up living in chicago and. losing my job i can't say i was a happy household my mother she always tries to derive lessons from what she experienced she was always analyzing what happened she thought that you know in the cans you saw the secret of human nature. there was another disco song which you all know i will survive and i will survive is about the one man whose

boyfriend you know sarah leaves her and she said i'm not some violence my mother love this song she didn't know the lyrics she just knew the referring and the rest frame for her was the war so. well here's. your. last night i spent several hours several unpleasant all over the. reading and rereading them paper presented by dr finkelstein and i found it disturbing in a way which is not easy for me. the paper is suffused with

press and hatred and i strongly hope that when the proceedings of this conference are printed that such parts of this paper will not be included in them. dr finkelstein to speak we have an expression in english the truth is often a bit ter pill to swallow we are supposed to be seriously examining history but you mention a few words about jewish collaborators and people get so upset this is i'm sorry to say it's a form of emotional blackmail he says hamas is not recognized by the united states because hamas won't recognize israel the logical question

is can you name a single israeli government official political party which has ever recognized a palestinian state with then its internationally legal borders. who are you on your own ok how about international law where of course you agree with that they say occupied palestinian territories the whole of the west bank and gaza you agree with the court no the point yes i believe in the fog advisory opinion as you know very well this is a. decision with before buying fall of the necessity to implement do you agree with their opinion. do you agree with their opinion.

is what i'm the argument which i think as a certain amount of credibility as the argument but i want to look at the sea so the argument goes something like this house armed as a special meeting for a jew is bad for most people go through our interview for the point of view of the history of the jewish. palestine has a special resonance for the insurer. to imagine i'd sure stay

in argentina you know in uganda or elsewhere simply the work of you the jewish people who made no sense i'm bashing a jewish state i'll start made sense for his jewish. we're talking to professor alan dershowitz he's author of a new book it's called the case for israel intimate with norman finkelstein among his books the holocaust industry and n.h. and reality and the israel palestine conflict now one thousand nine hundred eighty four one joan peters published a book called from time immemorial the book was universally recognized by serious scholars to be a fraud. without wanting to toot my own horn a mildly recognized as the person who exposed for what i know that book inside out i read it at least four times and i went through eighteen hundred and fifty four

footnotes. i started to read your book mr dershowitz. i then came to chapter one footnotes ten foot no the left and footnote twelve footnote thirteen footnote fourteen footnote fifteen footnotes sixteen all of the quotes are from joan peters may or so from joan peters but you have a long quote here from mark twain and pages twenty three to twenty four i turned to joan peters page one fifty nine to sixty the identical quote from twain with with the ellipse ease is in the. is the twain quote romance the a lip is the weight letter a financer of it at the key of the ellipse sees in the same places the identical quote from twain with the ellipses and the same places it's been widely then read here really has stood mr dershowitz i don't what's your point is if that is

a correct let us finish netters i would make i want to ask you guys have is it a direct is it an accurate quote of twain that there is very clear it will never play ger is a quote marked exactly x x not except that you cite mark twain and not shown peters i'm a professor sir i know what plagiarism is. busy dish expressions from my. mother means that some of the writer really could use a month or two to dust if there she was this book made of course i wouldn't even use it as a schmuck. in the read you made to challenge my positions of plagiarism his charge was that because i used quotations from mark twain for example which he says i originally

found. in. a woman named peter's book i had to cite the mark twain quotation not to mark twain himself which is of course what you're supposed to do according to the chicago manual and all other standard manuals but i was obliged to cite it to the peters book and fact cited peter's a times in fact i didn't find the mark twain quote in the peters book soon as he accused me of plagiarism i went to harvard university and i said there's been this accusation i insist that you investigated please put an investigator on it they put their pocket former president of harvard with whom i had not had particularly good relations over the years and derek ma came to the conclusion that there was absolutely no basis for any plagiarism.

you're listening to worldview from chicago public radio and we've been talking today with norman finkelstein assistant professor of political science at the paul finkelstein it's always had a controversial ads but the controversy never ends in his conflict with harvard's alan dershowitz he began in a democracy now radio program several years ago when he alleged that dershowitz his book a case for israel was plagiarized more recently dershowitz is not one campaign against illegal themes can you get a call the president of the call university has about the middle of this month to the side of that was dr finkelstein he's a faster to paul university who might get his tenure on tuesday if the university allows and but how can people like this be changing our children in the class of us

thanks for joining us i've got to start a file somewhere things that i know you're a ten year old. had you become too hot for american academia the american association of university professors has been watching. the demise of the american higher education of the ministrations. you know why don't you get rid of my memory . when you. see. me. now my. way. i.

know the flow university and myself reach a settlement this is the whole universe the state. today we are free to the resolution of our dispute with professor finkelstein. as a part of that resolution he has agreed to resign effective immediately. professor finkelstein is a prolific scholar and an outstanding teacher the university thanks jim thank you thank you thank you the university thanks him for his contributions and his service.

i know a great deal about the finkelstein tenure case because the paul asked me to write a letter on finkelstein which i did and then i followed the case very closely from start to finish and i think this is an open and shut case i think that finkelstein should have gotten a ten year he's not a teacher he's a propagandist he's not a scholar he simply writes screeds the scandal was that paul university ever appointed him in the first place they appointed him because hard left professors who didn't care at all about his lack of scholarship just like his ideological. radicalism and lowered the standards to appoint him so it was a good decision to deploy university and it was

a good decision for academic standards in general what he expects the shorts was going to hear cases dershowitz of being a liar and a plagiarist what is he going to expect but just what's to keep quiet did he know all the kind of connections the dershowitz has of the united states so why don't you tell it like him keep us not only normal so person wouldn't have done anything right so paul what do you expect right i don't feel it was that he should downplay that issue of plagiarism i didn't think it at first but in the news and wouldn't issue the piece of shit it's a plagiarized piers it's not significant but significant as the material. of. it he did i thought he would put it in a separate article is dropping. thank

. you. thank you. in my view most of this talk about civility is a red herring when you consider that our best universities eagerly recruit in dubai the bull war criminals whether it was colombia that sought out kissinger whether it was george howell which employed kirkpatrick or stand for which now has rumsfeld when you consider that professors in our best universities advocate torture and the automatic destruction of villages after a terrorist attack when you consider all this becomes clear that the question of civility whether one treats his or her critics according to emily post's

rules of etiquette. however rio the question is is by comparison a meaningless sideshow or just a transparent pretext for the gnawing a person the right to teach an account of his or her unpopular political beliefs thank you. to the outside world the conflict in lebanon seemed to stop some of. the fighting stopped about one thousand two hundred people killed most of the civilians of the map of web allies of the middle east to be drawn in ways that no one expects or.

many of those who smile at them in the capitals of the west since it is just the stakes of destruction of my. welcome you and i ask that you take

a moment of silence to honor the lives of those who died in palestine iraq and lebanon. some of you might know that dr norman was born in new york city led to a jewish family that survived the nazi camps. but our guest heard stories from his parents of the nazi massacres or the reincarnation of those stories in the streets today. we have a challenge and i look at it the challenge is to be both principle and reasonable at the same all i get and it needs sound on reasonable you're going to lose the international community but that's that when they come out i don't think that's the way forward in the struggle like that and that you. are better at it is very important that we have americans who want to

sure that luck or the american people or i guess that by the syrian lights we know when the people knows anything. on the site. that. was. the case i could have given a rather awkward torque you know long live on struggle and smash those are innocent of the crap life but. i don't believe in the n.b.a. i think it's pointless. i did when i can which is pleased to be intelligently about possibilities for change in the u.s. . but it's been tough you know there was one woman you know sort of broke the

power of. a profound thing comes out from the simple person she was lying in bed she's seventy two years old and i asked her how old are you she's and she lives in little shop of. rock concerts that open sewage told me she said i'm twelve years old or twelve years old you're twelve because i love palestine and i was twelve years old enough to that there's been a life. from twelve years of age and. it was a good learning you remember things but. after a go barber. after the shame not done robbie well by the odd and after the anger about them although there still remains the hope. and i

know that i can get in a lot of trouble for what i'm about to say while a man you can. see it on the self a little bit on what i think. represents the hope like and i thought in hezbollah you must and sometimes i think i have an effect if it's a very good thing i know what i'm going to tell you and has inflicted and hezbollah in huge defeat as you might be at a time this where you have to keep knocking them into a while and then you also will doubt about i don't see how they reach there so. yeah i would. but i just can't even get his fame has come from one of his books about the holocaust and other books involved in the palestine conflict.

and not the south when you. visited lebanon meetings are scheduled for you with various political leaders and some a hezbollah leader there is a fundamental principle people have the right to defend their country from foreign occupiers and people have the right to defend their country from invaders who are destroying their country and that to me is a very very sick i remember three and uncomplicated question. look who's not in the same process as bala in a. position to lob missiles and all that as well like the third of the country and habitable. he's not a clear and present danger in the way that hamas is the what he like him and name of terrorism. people who are creating a climate. incremental in which. israel's

legitimacy is no longer considered axiomatic in which violence against civilians is no longer axiomatic and.

maybe it's more more of a qualitatively more then the usual this content of perth in the fields with the world. i see a. radically unfair and therefore it has to be radically changed other people who think it's wrong for the inec with these are not radical in. the world go you know who you choose through whose eye is. through whose ari's you choose to see the world. this is all radically unfair. and it requires a radical change in.