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video on demand tease my old costs and r.s.s. feeds now in the palm of your. question on the dot com. hello again and welcome to follow me into the show on our take over not and today my guest in the studio is veronique even know. in his recent state of the nation address president medvedev spoke about the problems facing people with disabilities most russian cities are simply not that good to catto for them it's a state program and it's setting new standards to cities in an attempt to make them more disabled fred but isn't it rather a problem within our minds we're asking

a disabled rights advocate there i think if i know. official statistics say ten percent of the russian population suffer from disability many people say they either know a disabled person or have experience in taking care of one and many people still think of people with disabilities as different from others despite those perceptions disabled people themselves are optimistic about their prospects of enjoying better conditions and quality of life but currently every day can be a struggle and society isn't well equipped to help them. hell of a nickel welcome to the show thank you thank you very much for coming. in the latest state of the nation address president medvedev said i quote there is a lack of basic facilities for the disabled in the towns and cities and well there's actually no news in what the prince and we all know about it so what or who

do you blame for the lack of progress in this respect. well a vigil to the difficulty of lemme. recover. someone to blame for this lack of their problems due to their. ignorance alone an annoyance or needs of people is it a bit with a disability which have been for decades for a few decades problem. and part of their lack of attention from them from government from the government but russia has been and still is pretty uncomfortable for the disabled is it getting any better at least or it is tell us about that well let's take lascars an example public service professionals get access for instance masses reduce actual live as

there was emotionally as well since rand was around special little device and. so with all the fifty years of it. i've been a user in a social texas service for people with my military parents and vision impairment. arise who are. those who hears x. . and those. and those have. problems due to their parents and i think it's very comparable to come in a. provider that the overall system is not accessible at all and sit in well let's see what russians think about disabled in their country spotlights cards when you want to try to find out. why they're well there more than

ten million disabled people in this country they did leave face difficulties let's try to find out what is on their way to living a normal life. i think that our country's not disabled friendly social places and transportation are not designed for those people i also think that our society should be more tolerant towards them. streets apartment building stores and all of the social places are not treated out for people with disabilities i think that was society should change its way of thinking about them and treating them we should start with the younger generation we should teach them to be more tolerant inclusive education is a big plus. the way our society deals with the disabled the younger generation doesn't have any respect for older or disabled people they never think that they might end up being in the same situation being disabled themselves. our society lacks patients compassion kindness towards disabled people there should be many

systems and laws changed in our country there is very little being done by our government to better living conditions for them. i think there is very little done for them in terms of social conditions however i think that our people are very helpful when it comes down to helping those in need those with disabilities. like a well we just heard the opinions well do you agree with what many people said that the main problem for the disabled people is not the lack of physical access not the problem of physical access to venues and meeting educational facilities but rather the main problem are the psychological problems the problems within the society within the attitudes is that is that true yes i completely agree with that and. in employment for example for an employer and there was a disability. this where there. are

discriminated and employment. means understanding and problem is that. the presentation or the image of disabled people. wish it. was. made in their minds i won't speak of speaking about employees well there is. there is sort of prejudice towards towards the disabled people including. of employers and including the medics including government well. in this connection the disabled rights activist why do we avoid didn't for example here's what he says i quote the situation for people with disabilities here is now worse than in the soviet times it's or i can undercard war against us says mr vojvodina with would you agree with such a pursuit mystic assessment now i wouldn't agree. and there are

more. people who are that it is abilities have more access to the occasion they have more access to an environment yes that process and that i'm very slow slowly but surely i'd say on the other hand. and loans has social benefits. i'd say that my bet is that they're more generous than people's ability with disability. used to have understood tons i mean in comparison to just have a times. i did hear it speaking about attitude. again and. i don't agree with mr wavered and because in terms of i did. our side i think it is getting more and more used to. the whole concept of

latent blacks to people with a disability. they have ten chance years ago it was not the visible. people those are the disabilities been a visible problem for the most and visible and the last ignorant group of. people in this country well you are absolutely right because when i when i read this quote from mr wynn what it came to my mind that in the surgery terms we didn't even see disabled people illustrates and i worked to and talked a lot with foreigners who came to the soviet union and they said you don't have any disabled people i mean everybody is healthy in this country and i said probably not but they don't they just they just don't mix they they just don't go out is it true that this was the policy of the soviet government starting from the starland times because i read somewhere that after the war. shows of stalin who was the head of

the service they didn't want to see or didn't want the russians to see victims of the war among us yes this was the policy to drive them away from these trees from big cities is it true that this was government policy yes yes yes yes as far as i'm a restaurant shortly after them to their world war two problems and since for so aid for to seven well i mean i'm not sure about that the dead and the whole idea of us to give the house to say to them press now their houses or that house in nation . and nation. when a nation house or when a nation so all the victims are veterans severely disabled. basically that exam it was out as i remember that. island lost in the service because they didn't want this reminder of the horrors of the war yeah ok so so i'm

very glad to hear from you that there that the situation is changing and the attention of the president in his lays the latest addressed a nation is also it's also gives us an optimism here's another quote from mr madrid statistics say that terms of thousands of children with disabilities go without education this country and the president said in his address i quote quite often a disabled child visit to school turns into torture and quote do you think that this attention on such a high level will improve this terrible situation yes i'm sure. it was dark put more emphasis on the. and get some children at sandy mansour schools. those children result as abuse and have disabilities. they would start getting used to. they be yours was it inabilities from at from age

at the age. course. it's was it it was a very interesting quote about torturing. and i think it's more. psychological moral torture of. this than in the not knowing from the in unaware all. his ability of what his ability. what was what caused him to be disability one that particular period their cause in their own class. and do and why and. as long as we try to put all bunch more efforts on educating children on foot and have to get in a mass room in mansour i mean sitting masters course for those who are capable of

attended master and example the children ha ha less capable of italian restaurant schools i think our children all. i think that we have more chances all four eyes than a generation of people waste. says they're in the car even or disabled rights advocate spotlight will be back shortly after we take a break so stay with us. bringing you the latest in science and technology from around the last. week the huge earth covered.

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welcome back to spotlight i'm going of in just a reminder that my guest in the studio today is a very unique even our disabled rights advocate. you just started talking about the different programs that exist to to to make to make the society and the violin more work serviceable for the disabled people and the russian president was also speaking in a state of nation address of a new state program called accessible environment have you heard about this program and what what what would you say that can you comment on that please well read program. on a physical on physical ability billons. national army and as well as. a more access to education employment says basically about.

about. providing more access to give them opportunities and empowering people to have a. better quality of life. as possible as much as possible in this country and. it's more about i says it's even more about. change and. there is progress. in modern line. over this program as more as far as more about changing our minds rather than as a government physical physical merits physical. i have i have another quote from from. one of the top politicians in this country the federal council chairman said again miron said recently i quote almost five point five million people with disabilities are capable to work but the state doesn't create jobs for them doesn't

pressure the employers to give jobs to the disabled as a result the state has to pay zero ounces to the people who could earn money themselves and quote is is the new federal program there we're talking about is it going to seduce all the situation. well. provides four quarts of one part of quartz for company is. secure in place secure in work and. work in place for the roles that was the disability. well there is a new draft law i have heard about that that according to this new law that they want to pass the state will no longer be compensating the money that the disabled pay for full for the facilities like the arm chairs and some similar things is there a chance that the disabled organization that that that the activists may block this

legislation or is doing to be passed. i think of the thousand and the bans and i do i do hope that it will it will finally make. their ability to enjoy us sara be more proactive. so it may give them the. beginning and even more prayer and ferret. attentive to the needs of people with disabilities. are your organizations powerful enough to influence the law makers legislation yes yes do you give us examples we will when the disabled actually actually made the politicians make some decisions and other such as well picking up. there is original i have a cross i have personal experience i was a i was involved in the i personally was and walled it and make an amendment.

civilization by laws. and of that in the last almost ten years ago. there are regional society for people visitors of it with a disability perspective are. around or a while or around a serious affair less ten years ago just two thousand and one. tick and share. my commandments and and for proven pos and the law on. how it was called the engineer and engineering and viral physical marmande excessive excess of all physical engineering their arm environment. and i had said that by that time actually the city government. had been ignoring their law the draft for five seventy years and after

a serious so friendly apprenticed that made their. check made them change their mind a lot of their draft pilot was asked ok there are a lot of people with disabilities often go beyond what's expected of them showing there really are limits to human abilities spotlight's limited me there has more in it. you regs report. became russia's national hero after he won four gold medals in vancouver a last winter oh no russians paralympians brought home only eight men also the success of athletes with disabilities was a kind of compensation for disappointment at the olympic games were russia's performance was the worst in its history and sports is not the only sphere where people with disabilities excel against the awards the recent law schools across the entire festival proved they capable of creating at very special atmosphere on stage

marginalised by society these people are eager to try and make people look at the world through their eyes people with disabilities are not only more fragile than others they're often more perceptible to beauty like this teenager showing issue kena born without arms showing it injuries are and jaw in which she has to do with her toes and st petersburg's maxime's in a congress one of those who expand the human perception of dance work to miracles in his wheelchair people like jenny and maksim first have to come to terms with their own disability to learn to live with them and then to try and prove to the rest of the world they can do much more than is expected of them their stories make sure turn out to be great motivators for everyone not only for people whose abilities are limited. to talk to their children about inclusive education about trying to educate the new generation to be more

a more tolerant more compassionate more helpful what do you think is the best way to present the problems and then the out of the disabled people to the generation to kids what's the best way to do that. to have a tenant a sense quote doesn't mention school and here. and here on the stand that. risible children children who are capable of attendant mess from schools they should be there. my experience is very positive with. heaven who was attended when. i attended and a man's friend. as for this week i i had a homeschool indication but meanwhile i turned and.

some of us for. school must call most was in some of us social advances school at school and we had some joint classes so even though i didn't attend. in full. my school. never and never will another the less than experience was very positive and was very valuable for me but you know the problem with inclusive education is what i know would be because it is an experiment with inclusive education is carried out in the school where my son go he's eleven and the kids didn't do didn't mind you i mean there were a carrying with with the disabled children going to the same classes but most of the parents were strictly against the us. how do you explain that it would also

with prejudice with sort of old thinking the problems in the minds of the parents they said this is what we don't want the disabled kids to spoil our children this is going to spoil our school we have a very high quality of education and this will put the level of education down have you know such things and what can we do about it it can't educate area but they don't go to school at what was like blackwater mentioned again it's a lack of. real understanding and. understanding real emission of people who sit in the billets and there their capacities. their abilities. and their more with the kids parents of every children to as a result disabilities are the more we. live all of them and we are talk about.

abilities it is about children and. i think. the last pretty the left prejudiced this was so you mentioned that you did receive a proper education and that you're actually you're happy with the education you got what helped you and what was your main problem when when going to school. well mark i would believe there weren't any problems but. there are a lot of hardliners below me. legislation. that occasionally just educationalist lation saw that of saw it occasionally i was leisure that. i had a home school education. which provided element of number of hours i couldn't call hours for up. for clinical on.

physical or physical marland was completely excess i was one of the main reasons why a why i was receiving home with the medication and all i had to accomplish in terms of education was done you and i thanks to efforts of my parents. thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind my guest in the studio today was very runny given all that disabled words advocate who is trying to change the minds of people in this country thank you thank you for being with us and just a reminder that we'll be back with more first open wounds on what's going on in a lot of russia france already pay an o.t. and take a. home

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