five thirty am in moscow good to have you with us here on our t.v. you see your headlines. london erupts and protests in response to the latest in a string of government austerity cuts in europe thousands of students in trade unionists flooded the streets as parliament narrowly passed a new law crippling university tuition fees. a deal for the fat cats even with unemployment and homelessness in the u.s. had a half century high the country's largest banks may record bonuses early to help the

wall street alito void higher taxes. and the arrest of wiki leaks founder shows that the west has no right to dictate to others what democracy means according to russian prime minister vladimir putin he was commenting as moscow's demanding an explanation from nato after a leaked by the online whistleblower site suggested the alliance has secret defense plans against russia in eastern europe despite the ongoing reset in relations up next the show spotlight without growing up today his guest today is a disabled rights advocate veronica even over who is discussing a new russian state program to make cities more disabled friendly.

hello again and welcome to the show on our take i'm over knob and today my guest in the studio is veronique i even know. in his recent state of the nation address president medvedev spoke about the problems facing people with disabilities most russian cities are simply not that good to catto for their needs it's a state program and it's setting new standards for cities in an attempt to make them more disabled fred but isn't it rather a problem within our minds we're asking a disabled rights advocate there i think if i know. official statistics say ten percent of the russian population suffer from disability many people say they

either know a disabled person or have experience in taking care of one and many people still think of people with disabilities as different from others despite those perceptions disabled people themselves are optimistic about their prospects of enjoying better conditions and quality of life but currently every day can be a struggle and society isn't well equipped to help them. hello but i think a welcome to the show thank you thank you very much for coming. in the latest state of the nation address president medvedev said i quote. there is a lack of basic facilities for the disabled in the towns and cities and when there's actually no news in what the prince and we all know about it so what or who do you blame for the lack of progress in this respect. well as digital to

the difficulty of leymah. recover. someone to blame for this lack of fear problems due to their. ignorance alone an annoyance or needs of people is that it was a disability which have been for decades for a few decades problem. and part of their lack of tashan from the from garment from the government but russia has been and still is pretty uncomfortable for the disabled is it getting any better at least or it is tell us about that well let's take lascars an example public service profession is a guess and i was asked by the friends masses readers actually lived there surely as well since rand was around special little device and.

so with all the fifty years of it. i've been a. social texas there are still people with my military parents and vision impairment. arise who are. those who hears. and those. and those have. problems due to their parents and i think it's very comparable aspheric i mean a. that overall that the national system is not accessible at all and this it is. well let's see what russians think about disabled in their country spotlights you want to try to find out. why they are well there more than ten million disabled people in this country they do leave face difficulties let's try to find out what is on their way to living

a normal life. i think that our country's not disabled friendly social places and transportation are not designed for those people i also think that our society should be more tolerant towards them. streets apartment building stores and all of the social places are not flooded out for people with disabilities i think that was society should change its way of thinking about and treating them we should start with the younger generation we should teach them to be more tolerant inclusive education is a big plus. the way our society deals with the disabled the younger generation doesn't have any respect for older or disabled people they never think that they might end up being in the same situation being disabled themselves. our society lacks patience compassion kindness towards disabled people there should be many systems and laws changed in our country there is very little being done by our government to better living conditions for them. i think there is very little done

for them in terms of social conditions however i think that our people are very helpful when it comes down to helping those in need those with disabilities. like a well we just heard the opinions well do you agree with what many people said that the main problem for the disabled people is not the lack of physical access not the problem of physical access to venues and meeting educational facilities but rather the main problem are the psychological problems the problems within the society within the actually choose is that is that true yes i completely agree with that and. in employment for example for an employer and there was a disability. where there. are discriminated and employment. means understanding and problem is that. the presentation or the image of disabled people. wish it.

was. made in their minds what speed of speaking about employers well there is. there is sort of prejudice towards towards the disabled people including the attitude of employers and including the medics including government well. in this connection the disabled rights activist why do we didn't for example here's what he says i quit the situation for people with disabilities here is now worse than in the soviet times it's all i can under clear the war against us says mr weaver do with would you agree with such a pessimistic assessment now i wouldn't agree. and there are more. people who are that it is abilities have more access to education

they have more access to an environment yes the processes that are very slow slowly but surely i'd say on the other hand. and loans has social benefits. i say that my bet is that they're more generous than people's ability with disability used to have understood tons i mean in comparison to just have a times. i did hear it speaking about attitude. again and. i don't agree with mr way of arden because in terms of i did hear it. outside i think it is getting more and more used to. the whole concept of a latent blacks to people with a disability. they have ten chance years ago it was not the visible.

people was it it is ability of an invisible problem or the most invisible and the last ignorant group of. people in this country well you are absolutely right because when i when i read this quote from those two religions came to my mind that in the soviet terms we didn't even see the sable people who disagreed and i worked a lot and talked a lot with foreigners who came to the soviet union and they said you don't have any disabled people i mean everybody is healthy in this country and i said probably not but they don't they just they just don't mix that they just don't go out is it true that this was the policy of the soviet government starting from the stalin times because i read somewhere that after the war. of stalin who was the head of the service they didn't want to see or didn't want the russians to see victims of the war among us yes this was the policy to drive them away from this trees from big

cities is it true that this was government policy yes yes yes yes as far as america's worst orange shores after them to their world war two problems. for so aid for to seven well i mean i'm not sure if there was a dead and the whole idea of us to give the whole society the empress now their houses or their health in nation. health. and nation. when a nation house or when a nation so all the victims are veterans severely disabled. basically that exam it was out as i remember that. most of the service your lives because they didn't want this reminder of the horrors of the war yeah ok so so i'm very glad to hear from me that there that the situation is changing and the

attention of the president in this lays the latest dressed in nation is also it's also gives us an optimism here's another quote from mr majid if statistics say that terms of thousands of children with disabilities go without education this country and the president said in his address i quote quite often a disabled child visit to school turns into torture and quote do you think that this attention on such a high level will improve this terrible situation yes i'm sure. it was dark put more emphasis on the. and get some children at sandy mansion schools. those children result is abuse and have disabilities. they would start getting used to. they be yours was it in the bill is from at from age at the age. course. that it's was it was

a very interesting quote about torture and. it's more i think it's more. psychological torture of. this time and not knowing from the in unaware of. his ability of what his ability. what was what caused him to be disability one that particular period their cause in their own class. do and why and. as long as we try to put all natural efforts on educating children on foot and have to get in mass from immense from imus's and masters course for those who are capable of attentive master and example the children ha more or less capable of attack and master schools i think the children. i think

that we have more chances off whereas than generations of people with one. says they're in the car even or the disabled rights advocate spotlight we'll be back shortly after we take a break so stay with us i'm. sure it's the same i think there's a let me begin i'd say yeah real serious let's. see what does. this mean i think it was a seriously consider. i. cut . cut.

cut. cut the line. length. ok. welcome back to spotlight i'm going of in just a reminder that my guest in the studio today is a very unique even our disabled rights advocate. you just started talking

about the different programs that exist to to to make to make the society evolve and more work so simple for the disabled people and the russian president was also speaking in a state of nation address of a new state program called accessible environment have you heard about this program and what what what would you say that can you comment and please well read program . on the physical and physical ability of billons clash on our land as well as. access to education employment says basically about. about. providing more access to give them opportunities and empowering people to have a. better quality of life. as possible as

much as possible in this country and. it's more about i says it's even more about. change and. there's progress. in modern line. over this program and some are as far as more about changing our minds rather than as a government physical of physical barriers physical. i have i have another quote from from. one of the top politicians in this country the federal council chairman said again miron said recently i quote almost five point five million people with disabilities are capable to work but the state doesn't create jobs for them doesn't pressure the employers to give jobs to the disabled as a result the state has to pay zero ounces to the people who could earn money themselves and quote this is the new federal program there we're talking about is

it going to seduce all the situation. well. provides four quarts of or employment rewards for companies. secure in place secure in work and. work in place for the roles that was the disability. well there is a new draft law i have heard about that that according to this new law that they want to pass the state will no longer be compensating the money that the disabled pay for full for the facilities like the arm chairs and some similar things is there a chance that the disabled organization that that the activists may block this legislation or is doing to be passed. i think of the thousand and abandoned i do i do hope that it will it will finally make.

their ability to enjoy us sarah to be more proactive. so it may give them the. beginning and even more prayer and ferret. attentive to the needs of people with disabilities. are your organizations powerful enough to influence the lawmakers legislation yes yes do you give us examples we will when the disabled actually actually made the politicians make some decisions and other such as well picking up. of their original i have a cross i have personal experience i was a walled in. i personally was and walled in and make an amendment. civilization by laws. that in the last almost ten years ago. there original society for people visited it with

a disability restrictive. around araya where i ran a serious affair less ten years ago than two thousand and one. tick and share. my commandments and and for a proven pos and the law on. his car the engineer an engineer an environment of physical marmande excessive excess of all physical engineering their arm and arm and. and i had said that by that time actually the law if it a garment. had been ignoring their law of the draft for five seventy years and after a serious so friendly a prayer list that made their. check made them change their mind their law their draft pilot was asked and ok there are

a lot of people with disabilities are from the go beyond what's expected of them showing there really aren't limits to human abilities spotlights limited me there has more in it. the regs report. became russia's national hero after he won four gold medals in vancouver a last winter oh no russians paralympians brought home a man also the success of our fleets with disabilities was a kind of compensation for disappointment at the olympic games were russia's performance was the worst in its history and sports is not the only sphere where people with disabilities excel against the awards the recent law schools across the entire festival proved they capable of creating at the very special atmosphere on stage marginalized by society these people are eager to try and make people look at the world through their eyes people with disabilities are not only more for a child in others they're often more perceptible to beauty like this teenager

showing issue kena born without arms sharing it enjoys art and joy in which she has to do with her toes and st petersburg's maxime's in a chorus one of those who expanded on perception of dance working miracles in his wheelchair people like genuine maxime first have to come to terms with their own disability to learn to live with them and then to try and prove to the rest of the world they can do much more than is expected of them their stories make sure you turn out to be great motivators for everyone not only for people whose abilities are limited. to talk to their children about inclusive education about trying to educate the new generation to be more a more tolerant more compassionate more helpful what do you think is the best way to present the problems and then the out of the disabled people to the generation to kids what's the best way to do that. to have an attendant

a sense quote doesn't mention school for them and to hear. and hear understand that. those little children and children who are capable of attendant mess from schools they should be there. my experience is very positive with. heaven who was handed me when. i had to and a man's from what i was for this with. i had a home school indication but meanwhile i turned and. some of us for. school must call most was in some of us social advances school at school and we has some joint classes so even though i

didn't attend. in full. my school. never ever and ever and ever the less that experience was there positive and was very valuable for me but you know the problem with inclusive education is what i know would be because it is an experiment with inclusive education is carried out in the school where my son go he's eleven and the kids didn't do didn't mind you i mean there were a carrying with with the disabled children going to the same classes but most of the parents were strictly against this. how do you explain that with also with prejudice with sort of old thinking the problems in the minds of the parents they said this is what we don't want the disabled kids to spoil our children this is going to spoil our school we have

a very high quality of education and this will put the level of education down have you know such things and what can we do better if we can't educate area but they don't go to school at what was like a clerical term measure again it's a lack of. real understanding and. understanding real image of people who sit in the billets and there their capacities. their abilities. and they move with the kids parents of every children so the result is a built this article we. have all of them and we are talk about. abilities it is about children and. i think. the last produce the left prejudiced this was you mentioned that you did receive

a proper education and that and that you're actually you're happy with the education you got what helped you and what was your main problem when when going to school. well money i would believe there weren't any problems but. there are lots of problems below. legislation. that occasionally just educationalist lation solve it have to saw it occasionally i was leisure. i had a home school indication. which decided time provided element of number of hours i couldn't call hours for all for clinical. the physical physical moment was completely accessed so i was one of the main reasons why a why was ricin holistic on medication and all i had to accomplish in terms of education was done and thanks to the efforts of my parents.

thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind my guest in the studio today was very runny given all that disabled guides advocate who is trying to change the minds of people in this country thank you thank you for being with us and just a reminder that we'll be back with more first time comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay in our teeth and take a. look . bringing you the latest in science and technology from the realms. we've got the future covered.

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