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country despite the nation's financial troubles some say the growing addiction has turned into a religion has to be confronted. and next for god to the heart of the u.s. capitol well the last. twenty ten. well convey alone a show where you get the real headlines with none of the mercy that we continue our we can review of the best of the a lot of show from the past year and tonight we're going to focus on the hottest and most contentious debates that consumed america the plans to build an islamic community center named park fifty one just blocks away from ground zero set off a fierce debate one side claiming this is an insensitive move to those who suffered

on nine eleven and their families the other calling it islamophobia creating the false premise that all muslims are equated with terrorists but this battle didn't remain only in new york as communities across the nation started taking similar actions protesting the building of mosques oh yeah another neighborhood has become the stage for the debate over mosques in america and the board of trustees a roman catholic church on staten island has formally rejected a proposal to sell a vacant convent to a muslim organization the plan to use it as a mosque now neighbors that opposed to its claim of the mosque might become a front for terrorism so in the wake of nine eleven do we see this as a full on assault on islam in america an act of ungrounded prejudice and fear own should this be a real concern or joining me here in the studio is will humans rap artist and representative of the palestine center in washington and in our new york studio i

have pamela geller executive director of stop islamization islamization of america and editor of the blog alice shrugs thank you both for joining me now we'll start with you since right here. so there's been a lot of debate lately about the fact that they wanted to build a mosque expand its exotic center near the site of nine eleven and i understand back can be a little touchy for people but here this isn't a nine eleven the site of nine eleven this isn't staten island so what's the big deal. i don't want to sort of play saying that i don't represent the polls that are in this talk but i really speaking as a. individual and there's someone who's a muslim and it's very sad for me to see this person put in place like new york city which is such an international city so diverse where there's a statue of liberty saying we welcome your huddled masses that there happens to be this kind of intolerance for people just practicing their religion or wanting to practice their religion so i think that the church in stand island was kind of acting within its rights there was

a lot of community pressure but that community pressure was invalid it was a rational it wasn't based on an actual threat of any kind it was just based on this fear and to me that's tragic because catholics and jews and other immigrant groups came in places like new york city were subject to the same kinds of intolerance the same kinds of irrational fears without people really understanding their religions in question now they only do you think that you understand their religion that's in question here. well i've been studying it for eight years but that's really not the issue here mosques of being built across america the issue in staten island was primarily it was the muslim american society the muslim american society is the public face of the muslim brotherhood the muslim brotherhood in an internal capture document that was brought in as evidence during the holy land terror funding trial a captured internal document said the goal of the muslim brotherhood was to eliminate and destroy western civilization from within my brain has been tied to

terrorist organizations muslim brotherhood is a terrorist organization the community was very concerned and rightly so in addition that church was by and large supported by the parishioners the land was donated by the parishioners and funded by the parishioners and they were not asked they were left out of the entire process it is their community it is their church this is not a general attack on all mosques in america this is a very specific case of concern. with terror tied welcome ization is building a huge center in the middle of this community well i strongly agree with the principle that parishioners should have a voice and people local community should always have a voice but it doesn't mean that it's a smart decision i want to bring up your use of evidence i mean to bring up this kind of document which i saw this on your website it's a twenty year old document to bring one document and say that therefore the muslim american society is the public face of the muslim brotherhood that is

a very huge statement to make and i think it also shows a certain amount of ignorance about muslim brotherhood i don't think there's a connection i'm not i'm no matter i'm not i'm wrong but the muslim brotherhood and our chairman they're represented in the parliamentary of egypt which is an ally of the united states the muslim brotherhood is hated what they are talking about you know you are if they are not born they can find ideology my god you're connecting it with the organization might be given a chance to speak no you're going to you interrupt ok. it's a benz it's a band political party it's a band it's a terrorist everyone is a band that if one's every one the band i am speaking i now out and now everyone's bad once and for five seconds ago it was not banned now it is banned as that's why the egyptian government who's the a mother and i was a muslim brotherhood remembering are in the are lame is to destroy western civilization from within and the muslim arabs where i get anywhere where i have this is like a mask badly on the muslim american society well yes actually well you are other

good it's on the muslim brotherhood it's on the muslim brotherhood website the muslim brotherhood as i said the most americans as i was at iran so the lesson is rather like it's on the muslim brotherhood website listen to what i'm saying it's on the muslim brotherhood site that the met muslim american society is the public face a stablished by the muslim brotherhood if you're for ninety one ninety these only ever a few that are is that it's not years old it's not it's not one quote it's not an article please go into the evidence show you are not in the i want to get this all over then you know you know there are a. i didn't read all that documentation because we can talk about the muslim brotherhood all we want we can but the greater issue at hand here too is pamela i also know that you're not a fan of building a mosque side of nine eleven there are still these are these issues that are coming up in different communities as in fact i suggest you think they are going to reassure you that believe that these things these types of decisions also perpetuate the idea that the u.s. is fighting a religious war because we claim that we're not and yet you could say that there is

a lot of anti muslim anti islam. prejudice in america and i think that the big threat of war i am a little yes me the christian right yes me the us sitting here that i think islam who i think i think is i think the military wing of islam has declared war on the west which is evident by the attack the largest attack on american soil on nine eleven and the subsequent fifteen thousand six hundred forty four islamic attacks across the globe since nine eleven inspired by jihad that has not been addressed what has what is islam doing to expunge it's not on a violent text that inspired jihad still the west event itself. an act of god mosques around the country the muslim american society has more than forty chapters around the country and the post nine eleven climate i'm sure the government would know if these charities are terrible and they are going to i mean you know not necessarily frightening that there are fifteen hundred mosques across

this country i mean don't we practice the freedom of religion and i know that's not what's that's not what's frightening what is what i rated by the but by if they're operated by the arm of the muslim brotherhood that's frightening we all know that every single claim fifteen thousand excuse me the fifteen thousand six hundred forty four islamic attacks have had the in for mater of a muslim credit cleric the times square bomber the cresent that they were trying to avoid to come to the lackawanna a lot of them were there when they turned the bar the guy on one hundred jihadi the . the former no doubt imagine the kind we're talking allo here there's no connections you can say so listen if that isn't ever you're not unless it was one of the convent therefore it's the same you could never get away with saying that about jewish people that all jewish people have a conspiracy and they're all the same person you can never say that about a christian that all their tongues are they said just so i look at him here and see if you have all the same the way you do in the book spirit it's very horrid i have little to retailers are out here so i want to first of all talk about the koran the

last chapter the most violent repentance sorry i want to say something i love muslims i have nothing against muslims there is no collective guilt here i have a problem with the ideology that inspires jihad where you have no need to have an open i have no problem you i have another problem with modern the muslim brotherhood and al-qaeda but why do we think that building a mosque building and they all go to gaza is in america to worship is necessarily going to inspire jihad is not the issue here is that the people are scared there we are there with their qualities and i designed the people places of worship we have terrible in staten island i was at that community board meeting i've been involved in that fight the people in staten island were concerned with apart from the zoning the parking and all of the tumbles it would have caused in that neighborhood they were concerned with the muslim brotherhood proxy muslim american society as far as nine eleven goes the ground zero mosque that's a whole other issue that building is a woman morial

a piece of the plane hit it should be designated a national historical landmark it is incredibly insensitive to build a fifteen story mega mosque on the sacred ground of ground zero on what you are how americans know you have worked at home where it has its course it has course it is course enormous pain and norma's pain and grief this was supposed to be outreach well i have to tell you maybe it was how do you think how do you think of the family of the two hundred i want to listen to as i learned of this will since you are yourself muslim you know after nine eleven i think that deaf. the climate has completely changed in america the way that americans are scared these days and we're fighting a war with terrorism but has the muslim population also suffered because of this because of the attacks on nine eleven do you feel like you got treated like you're less american i mean absolutely can look at the hate crimes you can look at the discrimination reports very well if you want if there's a draw sure you guys know documentation. organizations like pamela narratives that

she. wanted to go on is law now recognizing all the differences i am not unity we why you're not right let's talk about no longer a muslim going to go to prison or attacks. every day or even having. to be related to them at every death was a murder every death was a murder and they don't know the cause of jihad and every and every death was a murder and every death was terrible i agree with you but the nine eleven situation is completely i agree with you there is no muslim backlash that's part of this islamic narrative you cannot say is cite any hate crimes that have been no he crimes america has gone out of her way to make sure that there was no backlit there's we are ok ok you guys and we are not words and we're out of time we have to . i want to consume every instruction in the battle and i go. after nine eleven there's a lot of yeah i think the government not ordinary assistant watch we're not going on there i'm just in i don't think it does it doesn't exist but islamic anti-semitism is in the very family a family base

a lot of my family thank you have a will it's the right thing and i guess my semitism this next story took not only america but the world by storm a florida pastor plans to burn the koran on september eleventh now in the days leading up to it mass protests were held in muslim countries people were killed in afghanistan the obama administration and top military officials they became involved pleading with this event be canceled saying that it put the lives of american troops at risk for months before the mainstream media picked up on it the a lower show first called on pastor to. barry jones the man planning burn the qur'an day to explain his reasoning now perhaps some of you are still not convinced perhaps that you think stereotypes affect everyone not every religion is allowed holidays and school and that not every religion is allowed as many houses of worship as they like to build but take this next example a church in florida with signs in front of it that say is of the devil is planning

a burn the koran day on september eleventh they say that their mission is to warn but were there warning against this is this a sign that the freedom of religion in america no longer exists where earlier in studio i caught up with. my two and a blogger acca bob s. and dr terry jones a senior pastor at the dove world outreach center from florida i first as dr jones why it is that he wants to make september eleventh burn the koran day. well of course september eleventh was a and what happened was. of course a very very serious thing. i believe that it reveals the true colors of islam and we thought about what can we do to really show. the dangers of what happened that day and it's not only what happened that day but actually what islam does around the world and we still burning the koran would be

something of that magnitude what is it here that islam does do around the world. well i believe it's islamic mission to dominate the world. to replace local governments if you replace the constitution of the united states was surreal all our leaders very obvious that as you look around the world you see difference of islam if you look at the trouble that england's having the trouble there germany's i haven't. you see dominated countries who are dominated by islam even countries like saudi arabia you see there are no individual freedoms and rights. and it is they are. according to care to replace the constitutional united states we sure real all and we believe that it is time to stand up now. before it's too late it is almost too late for europe now

hannah stated that because you are you are muslim do you think that your mission here the mission of your religion is to to dominate the world to answer to sharia law wipe away the constitution of the united states i don't believe so and i speak to the doctor and his opinions but the fact is i think he's totally wrong in this subject because islam is not the snapshot nine eleven was a snapshot religious progress people make mistakes it's unfortunate all the death of the civilians in nine eleven there are two hundred day muslims who got killed that day so they are part of that narrative i hope the doctor is aware that these muslims were also worshipping. the koran the very very book that he plans to burn on september eleventh and that's frustrating because the city where he's from is gainesville florida which is the most technologically advanced state in florida but this philosophy is very backward and it comes from the city i think it's very insulting for a lot of us and for that as events of that city now dr jones you know this is america after all the freedom of religion is written ed to our constitution so you

know it by your actions. by wanting to burn the koran aren't you just criminalizing against towards a certain or against a certain religion. no not at all we feel also as a church should use our job to stand up we not only speak out against islam we speak out against homosexuality same sex marriage abortion we speak out against islam because we as a christian church christian organization we believe that the only way to salvation eternal life is through jesus christ and of course islam in the koran. where you choose just the opposite of that i mean you cannot you could believe that dr jones i mean islam talks a lot about the virgin mary and the stories of jesus and his much as much of the muslim narrative as much as of the christian one and the jewish one the fact is i mean you could discriminate against muslims gays tomorrow other die cherish dominations i went to a christian school here i didn't think you would say they are christian but they

think they are christian so this is that's probably where this discrimination it's obviously frustrating for many of us and muslim community who try to work hard and do what they can to progress and grow in this country that's been good to us that you come here and want to burn the koran when i think you that you what you do is for the extremists you're very supportive of that agenda because that's what they're doing and yes the united states is at war two wars with more same country so they're not sitting at home just chilling and hanging out so that they lament what you're doing i think in the enjoys a lot of the american troops who are you know trying to protect freedom so that's another aspect you have to think about that dr johns what do you say to a lot of people i mean for example burning a koran isn't exactly the most peaceful and rather it's kind of violent and so don't you think that in some ways that creates more of a religious war that that and then makes pits more people muslims versus americans versus christians. well we believe that it will definitely open up

a dialogue. actually gets people's attention. it is our hope that a little nicer human desire a lot of the things that end the dialogue i mean. i think emma i think you're not opening the dialogue by burying the qur'an and i think that honestly a very ignorant mistake i mean the only way the proper way to. terminate a book of the qur'an is to burn it so you're not doing that offensive act your intentions might be offensive but your act for many muslims that's what we do and we want to get it it's a copy of the qur'an we just bear in it but your intentions are clearly vile and i think you know i don't see that as an opening a dialogue that's just ended and i'm sure i am sure my mike has his back and that they're like oh look at this now these americans are burning the koran when it's you call it an international day when it's actually not even a state wide event as far as i know so that's frustrating for me to you know everything we have eric and we've got national. comments on that on our day

and i think what we're also basing ours on we believe that right now it is time to speak up against islam as i said before because it's too late you may get a statement a couple times in european where you're living your dr jones you know later why. but before we end up like europe before we end up like what you were talking about the financial crisis in europe or what crisis where are you talking about as if organization america they said it is their goal to replace the constitution of the united states we should real all that is what you're saying i mean i'm not going to defend you care but i think that's very inaccurate statement they've been part of the american lot and narrations here in the land see if you look at the fruit of europe you should look at what is going on in europe look at the violence they are in his law the very we are say well if god if you don't get it and then at the very minister who says championed a campaign to ban then it might because converting to islam pretty soon so it's not

a piano problem muslims are much of a happy ending as you know as everyone else and yes the arctic same is their limits of that and i mean you would have to be a tirade not to see the extremism in their legend but you know they are going to say it's as old so you know he's waging war as a people and for just here to come and burn copies of the koran i think you're just complicating to think i love they all are going part of it all the time but i think that's their own act and a divine intention is doing what dr jones tell me this are is for you is this simply a religious battle or religious topic or is this an american one because to me it also seems very un-american it seems like you yourself want to change the constitution if you no longer want to respect the freedom of religion if you want to go out and burn the koran if you you know want to offend other people of other religions. well we believe it is our constitutional right to stand up and say your opinion of course of course it is a radical thing to do but we believe that the times and we believe that islam and

the koran is that dangerous a religion that drastic means or necessary like i said before we look at europe look at what they did with their political correctness we look how they how they tolerated how they've done nothing and now it's virtually too late in germany and so they have called in the turkish police to help them because of moslem islamic dominated areas in germany. now we have to wrap up here but very quickly as an american muslim how do you feel these days post nine eleven how do you feel the people who are advocating for for burning the koran i think america's a great country and the biggest thing about it is the freedom of speech of pastor wants to burn the qur'an go ahead do it i don't think it's a wise decision but it's their freedom to speak i think it's hard sometimes for some people to be here because there have been backlash is that is the discrimination cases and things i have seen none of that i don't speak to their

pain or you know there is many documented cases of discrimination and illegitimate . and what's not but the fact is i think america does it's not perfect but it's always perfect and it's so that's that's what i'm going to end well there definitely are a slew of very different opinions here and we've just got two of them gentlemen thank you so much for being here. coming up after the break i'll take a look back at one of the craziest ideas thrown out by political candidate this year arizona's passage of s.b. ten seventy the immigration law that made it legal for officers to check one's documents and status at routine stops set off nationwide hysteria calls of racism calls for comprehensive immigration reform and in one case calls for internment camps all replay my fireside on that topic and then it was a battle of the titans as google faced off with viacom in court by comes one billion dollars copyright infringement case targeting you tube for allowing

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u.s. you know that we've been covering the immigration debate tirelessly on this show trying to show both sides trying to understand why emotions are running so high but i have to say that people are going too far politicians are going too far in trying to play upon the public's emotions the worst example being. g.o.p. candidate for florida state representative she thinks the we should just round up all legal immigrants and throw them into. what. you already are the very little girl that you. feel like you know for you to come under the gun very well if you're really going there you are going to finish things that you care. now i'm not exactly sure what she's we're for in june the forty's in florida but perhaps she

means you know that time when the u.s. has rounded up thousands of american citizens who were japanese and threw them into camps you know that left a black mark on this country that was a horrible and inhumane act and not one that should be repeated i just can't believe that it's going so far that people are advocating for the return of internment camps people lost their minds immigration is a problem that needs to be addressed and for that these are people we're talking about these are human beings not animals to be rounded up and further into a pit so it's sick but anybody anybody would think that that would be a viable solution. to tonight's fireside with your host. earlier this week we told you that a judge ruled in favor of google and you tube are by a common one billion.