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a fast buck out of failure. those are the headlines here in r t coming up the firsthand stories of soldiers and officers who chose conscience over army orders and price paid for that decision. because. group of generals had planned a coup d'etat you know i wasn't in on the cool i was not contaminated by the desire to overthrow the government. or you. want to put you at about eight thirty am. i received

a memo from the division commander. ordering me to take control of the region of delta and to rest a governor and members of the regional government. and it will i gather my officers and told them what i thought about the whole fame. to be beside me until i gave them a short verbal order maintain calm in order do not change the system. and respect the life of all citizens. of the m.b. on september eleventh. i was mayor of the city of tulka and we see that. we know my name is a coup and foresee. and i was a member of the communist party but that day the party had decided. that about ten thirty am. i would go to the military barracks to speak with.

find out exactly what's going on. to assess the situation. i think i must be the only communist mayor in the country who went into military barracks on september eleventh and spoke with the military commander expressed reservations about the events of the day. down of their free to carry out my duties as mayor. if i spoke to this man if i agreed to see him it's because use a chilean citizen a man who had been elected mayor of talca by the population he had that title i could not despise and that's why i treated him like i did. i am alive today because. if rain.

was the military commander. otherwise impossible for get it. i was among the first on the list of people to be eliminated. by the put use. to them two thousand. number when you think of later three years running to drive the heat on. ninety six the news conference good morning to a good morning text on an american soldier who went a while rather than fight what he calls and oil driven the war in iraq faces a current martial at fort stewart today and his trial is attracting international media attention spanish and canadian television crews joined local news teams to report he faces up to a year in prison for desertion if convicted. think

themselves. to date is the first day of the trial in the court martial of staff sergeant will be used charged with one specification of violation of article eighty five of the uniform code of military justice you see m.j. desertion. i will introduce mr ramsey clark as you all know by now as a former attorney general united states in the sixty's certainly the johnson ministrations set to go be leading the defense on the issue of whether international law defenses that we want to offer should be admitted in this case is that this is a or the most important issues in this case. come down to the station. no. because it should such great importance.

to our country tend to peace. in iraq you have soldiers accused of violating international law. the geneva convention. and for that matter domestic law course you can brutalize people under any circumstances under any law. here you have a soldier. who served in iraq. you to squad leader. his squad was cleared in. two abuses that were violations of international law. you know they were they were stationed out at the international airport. and you were handing detainees but what comes in is three sheen your man who had no dinner if it cajun have.

only code names and they do the actual interrogation. but they order. these young soldiers around on how you handle the detainees when the actual impaired geisha isn't going on. and they were ordered to do private. sleep. forty eight hours. to keep them blindfolded. them around make them stand make noise. take your weapon to defuse may shoot the person right in the head at that time. he thought he had a duty to stay out of that. activity. is a violation of international law. that's what you want to soldiers to do. take more if you want to be a democratic society than to find obedience to authority. and you see that an order

is illegal and you're being ordered to commit a crime don't do it. yet they make the prosecution fears that a light sentence or make it will encourage other immigrant soldiers to desert the defense argues it may hear. had the right to obey his own conscience rather than orders from his commanding officer a ten person jury will hear testimony tomorrow from fort stewart georgia. univision . i.

one of the soldiers who have been. told his mother. mom i don't feel like my life belongs to me. why did you move me so much to the soldier said that he did because i failed the same way when i was there. because we were told to go on missions that we knew were not for the benefit of anyone other than the officers who were given such borders to go into such missions because we knew that there were officers there were pretty much instigating firefights and creating social distress because they had gone through so many years to have gone through entire military careers without having any type of experience and in order for them to have the experience the background they need to get their promotions and to make god knows what gen perhaps have in scum but experience. is very helpful.

but. they don't really care who you are all they care about is that we go there and don't we get into firefights so they can get their medals so they can get their promotion so they can get their purple hearts. that it is. all going to. go. into said when i said it yep and then you ask yourself why did all this happen you

know why did all these people die. why did i allow myself to be put in a situation where i have to kill in order to survive. were. should watch of english moon in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight there was no palestinian national authority. cities had their own town councils knew at the time that the palestinians could govern themselves to a certain extent. that issue one day. israel expelled the

mayor of his brother. and the mayor of algeria to jordan. we must feel that the next day we were sent to patrol the city of heber. the but there was a huge demonstration to protest the expulsion of the two mayors and that would mean there were a lot of protesters they were throwing stones at every government installation they saw whether military or civilian three. women shot and then the government issued the order to open fire on the demonstrators. in we look for that if i said no i can't open find a lawyer i didn't have the capacity to break up a demonstration that lad had no tear gas is no shield it's no rubber bullet. it's

with the you had nothing at all i said i'm a soldier a fighter. for my fire my weapon it's to kill me with someone asked me are you refusing to obey an order shoot she i said yes i refuse because this order goes against my principles. no one can force me to kill if i don't want to do it every so i don't want to be a war criminal. he was doing as if so i was reprimanded and demoted. it. one sunday i was in the government building if you want it and i received

a phone call from the second in command because he said commander gen i really a noise here to seal. that will but i told him i would be right there and immediately went to the barrel of a commune. in a moment thinking to be when i came in the room because i saw a general in combat uniform butterwick in our glasses whiskey in one hand. if you see any machine gun on the other hand what if you introduced myself and said general there is nothing to report in the area yes me what does that mean nothing to report it i'm any political prisoners seen how many detainees are there. but also i insisted nothing to report general. once and what commander don't you know we are at war he asked me. he like i couldn't help myself and i said

via both of them did he want war are you talking about generally when i mean i know it's possible to declare war against neighboring countries or scene but not against our own countrymen. went in with. very well he said you're dismissed wait in the next room but it may be then met with most senior officers in my unit and with his staff. and then he informed me that the military junk i had to sign and that i should report to army headquarters and relinquish my command to get it went in to get him .

it will simply have a thimbleful i was cord marshall and accused of dereliction of military duty to me to get in dereliction of military duty it made. me that i was sentenced to five years in prison because. i went to prison but endured persecution slander threats of execution it was he not me and spent seventeen years in exile.

we're going to have to start here let me just professor jules folke l l o l is a full professor of international law at university it's for he's also the vice president of the center for us to show right wing always gets forgotten midnight exhausted learns that the judge is not going to live i want to just start this fall what he would testify to it. the underlying issue this case is really whether the united states government will comply with its international obligations treaty obligations and national. and for i would have testified that five men in his absence from his unit was authorized

under international under the treaties which we have signed and under the precedents which we are still. after world what's. at the nuremberg tribunals which the united states government was the chief prosecutor of decided that a soldier or a command or citizen has obligations under international law then are higher than their duty to obey the best the quad superior orders even to assume cannot be considered in mitigation where crimes as shocking and extensive has been committed consciously ruthlessly and without a military excuse or justification. and that set the basic precedent that a soldier ought to this obey. an order that is a week old. and it would have been much better in the prison systems in iraq if more soul. it's had disobeyed it would have been better for our whole international

image and our whole foreign policy and it's in the military's interest. even though most military people would say this has to be the key thing but this point at what cost if the cost is committing war crimes and discipline has to give way to the broader principle that military should operate on the wall.

good morning everyone of us here in the newsroom his attorneys say he's a good squad leader who took care of his men but the government says he left them behind when they needed in the most those are the opening arguments in the court martial of florida national guard soldier. he is accused of deserving is unit well on a two week furlough from iraq last fall convicted he faces a year in prison this charge. the military court has reached a decision. very serene. he says he stands by his action it's. the latest news from fort stewart georgia.

three to seven. army specialist jeremy sivits was the first soldier to be charged and is expected to plead guilty to taking pictures of the abuse as part of his deal with prosecutors he would testify against the other soldiers sivits faces a maximum of one year in prison. for it some are not quite be getting sweeter. what is. the men who gave the orders not fully assume the responsibility of the

commanding officer. they tire responsibility for the entire fall to their subordinates. one cannot delegate the command responsibility. response ability i can delegate authority to my second in command my responsibility under no circumstances. i was willing. and i'm still willing to defend my home. to defend my country. but i am not willing and i will never be willing. to conquer. another nation. i think about the real

price. that was paid for this war at. the time and not only by american and allied troops. but also by the families of the soldiers who suffered a great deal. and mainly by iraqi embassy attack that in who are oppressed now and who are paying them dearly. i think what i am doing now. even if it costs me a few years in prison is a small price to pay and even if i go to prison for this and i will be free. i will have been free enough to make the right decision that i will feel that despite the contract i signed to become a soldier i gave myself the freedom to make the right decision.

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