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if you move soon from plans to. team don't come. this is out see the international news from moscow thanks for being with us one of . her all top stories this month europe's asylum policy comes at a fun after last year's spike of a rest so the suspected terror plots detainees links to terrorism and al qaida to get accusations of lax checks or offering extremists a safe haven. touching the post and opening it hoping it won't become the president of moscow but museum offers a chance to relive
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a coup d'etat you know i wasn't in i'm a cool i was not contaminated by the desire to overthrow the government. or you. want to put you at about eight thirty am. i received a memo from the division commander. ordering me to take control of the region. and to rest a governor and members of the regional government. and it will i gather my officers and told them what i thought about the whole thing. going to be bits of me until i gave them a short verbal order maintain calm an order do not change the system. and respect the life the of all citizens. of the m.b. on september eleventh. i was the mayor of the city of. you
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know my name is. an foresee. and i was a member of the communist party but that day the party had decided. that about ten thirty am. i would go to the military barracks to speak with. find out exactly what's going on. to assess the situation. i think i must be the only communist mayor in the country who went into the military barracks on september eleventh spoke with the military commander expressed reservations about the events of the day. they're free to carry out my duties as mayor. but think on it if i spoke to this man if i agreed to see him
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it's because he was a chilean citizen a man who had been elected mayor of talca by the population he had that title i could not despise and that's why i treated him like i did. i am alive today because. if rain. was the military commander. otherwise impossible for get it. i was among the first on the list of people to be eliminated. by the put use. to them two thousand and. number one million singles later three years running to drive the new he's on site ninety six has the news conference good morning to a good morning text on an american soldier who went a while rather than fight what he calls and oil driven war in iraq faces a current martial at fort stewart today and his trial is attracting international
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media attention spanish and canadian television crews joined local news teams to report he faces up to a year in prison for desertion if convicted. make themselves. today it is the first day of the trial in the court martial of staff sergeant will be used charged with one specification of violation of article eighty five of the uniform code of military justice you see m.j. desertion. i will introduce mr ramsey clark as you all know by now as a former attorney general united states in the sixty seven of the johnson
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ministrations you just have to go be leading the defense on the issue of whether international law defenses that we want to offer should be admitted in this case is that this is a or the most important issues in this case. i'll come down to the station. you know. because it should such great importance. to our country tend to peace. in iraq you have soldiers accused of violating international law. the geneva convention. and for that matter domestic law course you can't prove people under any circumstances under any law. here you have a soldier. who served in iraq. you describe leader. his squad was cleared in. two
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abuses that were violations of international law. you know they were they were stationed at the international airport. they were handing detainees but what found in his three sheen your men who had no dinner and have. only code names and they do the actual and para geisha. but they order. the pete young soldiers around on how you handle the detainees when the actual interrogation isn't going on. and they were ordered to prise them. sleep. forty eight hours. keep them blindfolded. jerk them around make them stand make noise. take your weapon just you may shoot the person right in the head at that time. he thought he had
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a duty to stay out of that. activity. is a violation of international law. that's what you want to soldiers to do. more if you want to be a democratic society than to find obedience to authority. and you see that an order is illegal and you're being ordered to commit a crime don't do it. yet they make the prosecution fears that a light sentence or make will encourage other immigrant soldiers to desert the defense argues. had the right to obey his own conscience there's an orders from his commanding officers that a ten person jury will hear testimony tomorrow from fort stewart georgia. univision .
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one of the soldiers who have been in my squad. told his mother. mom i don't feel like my life belongs to me. why did you move me so much of the soldier said that he did because i failed the same way when i was there. because we were told to go on missions that we knew were not for the benefit of anyone other than the officers who were given such orders to go into such missions because we knew that there were officers there were pretty much instigating firefights and creating social distress because they had gone through so many years that have gone through the entire military careers without
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having any time some experience and in order for them to have the experience that background they need to get their promotions and to make. general perhaps i mean this combat experience. is very helpful. they don't really care who you are all they care about is that we go there and don't we get into fire fights so they can get their medals so they can get their promotion so they can get their purple hearts. even though.
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yep and then you ask yourself why did all this happen you know why did all these people die. why did i allow myself to be put in a situation where i have to kill in order to survive. were.
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shit watch of englishman in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight there was no palestinian national authority in the cities had their own town councils knew it that's the palestinians could govern themselves to a certain extent. that it should fit for one day. israel expelled the mayor of his brother. and the mayor of albury to jordan. him a fellow at the next day we were sent to patrol the city of heber. the book but there was a huge demonstration to protest the expulsion of the two mayors and that would mean there were a lot of protesters they were throwing stones at every government installation they saw whether military or civilian three. women shot then the government
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issued the order to open fire on the demonstrators. in the local for that if i said in so you know i can't open fire a lot i didn't have the capacity to break up a demonstration that lad had no tear gas no shields no rubber bullet. it's with the you i had nothing at all i said i'm a soldier a fighter. i fire my weapon it's to kill me with someone ask me are you refusing to obey an order should she i said yes i refuse because this order goes against my principles. no one can force me to kill if i don't want to do issues i don't want to be a war criminal. he was doing this if so i was reprimanded and demoted.
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it to you on the one sunday i was in the government building if you wanted and i received a phone call from the second in command because he said commander general i really annoys here to seal. that will because i told him i would be right there and immediately went to the burial of me and in a moment think it will be when i came in the room because i saw a general in combat uniform butterwick in our glass of whiskey in one hand. previously and a machine gun on the other hand when you introduced myself and said general there is nothing to report in the area yes me what does that mean nothing to report on it
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how many political prisoners she know how many detainees are there. but also i insisted nothing to report general. but commander don't you know we are at war he asked me. i couldn't help myself and i said both of them did he want war are you talking about generally case when i mean i know it's possible to declare war against neighboring countries it's seen but not against our own countrymen. went in with a very well he said you're dismissed wait in the next room but it may be then midwest most senior officers in my unit and with his staff. and then he informed me that the military junk i had decided. that i should report to army headquarters and relinquish my command get it went in to get him.
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before i was court martialed and accused of dereliction of military duty. dereliction of military duty immediately. to me that i was sentenced to five years in prison because. i went to prison but endured persecution slander threats of execution it was he not me and spent
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seventeen years in exile. we're going to have to start here let me just professor jules folke l l o l is a full professor of international law at university it's for he's also the vice president of the center for us to show right wing always gets forgotten night exhausted learns that the judge is not going to live i want to just start this from what he would testify to that's. the underlying issue this
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case is really whether the united states government will comply with its international obligations treaty obligations and international law. and they ask for i would have testified that five men in his absence from his unit was authorized under international under the treaties which we have signed and under the precedents which we are so selfish after world what's. at the nuremberg tribunals which the united states government was the chief prosecutor of decided that a soldier or a command or citizen has obligations under international law then are higher than their duty to obey the best aquash superior orders even. cannot be considered in mitigation where crimes as shocking and extensive has been committed consciously
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ruthlessly and without a military excuse or justification. and that set the basic precedent that a soldier ought to this obey. an order that is a week old. and it would have been much better in the prison systems in iraq if more soul. had disobeyed it would have been better for our whole international image and our whole foreign policy and it's in the military's interest to promulgated such a rule even though most military people would say this has to be the key thing but this point at what cost if the cost is committing war crimes and discipline has to give way to the broader principle that military should operate on the wall.
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good morning every one of us receive or hear the newsroom is attorney say is a good squad leader who took care of his men but the government says he left them behind when they needed in the most those are the opening arguments in the court martial of florida national guard soldier. he is accused of deserving as you did well on a two week furlough from iraq last fall convicted he faces a year in prison and a dishonorable discharge. a
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military court has reached a decision. very serene. he says he stands by his actions. the latest news from fort stewart georgia. three to seven. army specialist jeremy sivits was the
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first soldier to be charged and is expected to plead guilty to taking pictures of the abuse as part of his deal with prosecutors he would testify against the other soldiers sivits faces a maximum of one year in prison. might be getting sweeter. what is. is that the men who gave the orders not fully assume the responsibility of the commanding officer. tire responsibility and the entire fall to their subordinates. one cannot delegate the command. responsibility i can delegate authority to my second in command my responsibility under no circumstances. i was willing. and i'm still willing to defend my home. to defend my
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country. but i am not willing and i will never be willing. to conquer. another nation. i think about the real price. that was paid for this war. at home and not only by american and allied troops. but also by the families of the soldiers who suffered a great deal. and mainly by iraqi embassy attack that who are oppressed now and who are paying them dearly. i think what i am doing now. even if it costs me a few years in prison is
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a small price to pay and even if i go to prison for this and i will be free. i will have been free enough to make the right decision that i will feel that despite the contract i signed to become a soldier i gave myself the freedom to make the right decision. yeah. yeah.
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