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reminder of the top stories here in our. amid widespread corruption. as soon as the. top secret. information on the. fishel say armed forces shouldn't even be posting pictures of themselves in

uniform. and a russian man in the forest has his isolation rudely interrupted after becoming an internet sensation gave r.t. a warm welcome at his hand made home an awards outside moscow but said he's seeing too many welcome visitors. next albert nobbs talk show spotlight is guest today as prominent russian artist. face to face with the.

old one. can be found in. the world. and. my guess. is.

in one thousand nine hundred nine the return of the work to russia began with the first exhibition there since he went. to continue to show his work in russian. political repressions and to the architects and builders of st petersburg to the. national museum. today.

mr xi thanks for coming to our program. that's walk down memory lane and. we all know that you were expelled from the soviet union the nine hundred seventy one. citizenship. what was your fishel reason for expelling your from the country. since i was not one of the chosen people. was quite a complicated one. i was arrested and then taken to the kind of state security for a so-called chat. explained to me that i had three options. first option which if it was to go into a man to asylum where i spent half a year. now it was the atsic of clinic us which was an experimental clinic actually

one of the most horrible wants as it was under the jurisdiction of the state security services. they tested new psychotropic medication on us. did help. my mom hadn't gotten out on bail as a disabled i think i would have spent three years there she was told that she should be expecting her son back no sooner than three years later and he says he would actually i wouldn't have the honor of talking to you today b.c. of the usually people left that place in a state of deadheads to go straight into the hospital for people with chronic diseases. who would you feel when you took those medications no if you're well it's not that we actually took them it was different all the time and i was in an almost twilight state when they said various experiments for example they would who'd had films on my head and shout out the names of western artists but with gross mistakes . instead of picasso for example they would say because. my sense of humor help me i mean conscious. so they would shout the names together

with things like motherland of the land followed by a bride flashes of light i was seated in front of a huge color screen with some stripes moving on it in different ways. there could be complete darkness and then suddenly the screen would burst with right such were some of the experiments. to me don't you think there's something like that yes i mean that's why when i got to france my friends advised me not to watch that movie because they knew my story though when i did watch it i found many similarities. so basically if they wanted to see a repeat of your personality and your intellect. you see they try to catch us i mean the young people and to help us stick to the truth cough they first tried to crush us in certain and read us. but them when they

saw that you didn't give in a psychiatrist would give a cue if. the kid should be considered as if you were to version to western principles or not or your general of socialist thrillers or something else when you weren't a dissident as such right now but i have always protested against being called a dissident you know no it wasn't like that i don't like it when someone says that she can is a dissident dissenting i was actually involved in very simple things like studying russian icons but it was considered as interest and mr says though it was also into group there was a book called match his group written by an author from the german democratic republic at those it was a very distressing fascination i don't know if you know anything about his books but he writes a lot about crucifixion it using a very expressive catechism etc the main crime was my interest in a rented. says on sicily and it was considered

a crime yeah even if you were interested in impressionist because they praise the buddha to ideology moreover i really want to. make it a pain to the naked and gay people so when you were expelled from the soviet union nine hundred seventy one. before we start talking about. the socialist liberalism that you basically denied as you were do you sanction the soviet union which is now becoming very trying to special in the west its words fashionable in moscow and actual in russia like that kind of warred that's. that doesn't make you said i was there. you see i have never been opposed to socialist realism. on the contrary when perestroika began the small knowing the russian nature i was one of the first to write a letter to the ministry of culture warning them against bringing down the monuments all over russia and suggested preserving the ones that are made by some

real. like. bill and. as works of ott. so if you know that people started to smash down stallin monuments and monuments of a different political leaders. but those were done by some real. i actually seriously defend the school of socialist realism. because i had teachers like an amazing illustrator it was illustrations collaborating on. the tremendous along to come with him. my author teacher was you know she was an amazing theatrical must. have always admired for. me so i think what happened back then was a big mistake. russia is known for its extreme decisions. but if

you saw the it's union collapsed it was tragically what happened too quickly. and immediately everything that it was connected with it was he was declared very bad. well. it's well deserved when its. people also destroyed all the. destroyed tortures. it's what they call germs you know it's in the old world. that's why i suggested not to denounce it so quickly because those sculptures were true masters of the school socialist realism. if you can't decide special order things which are clearly trouble again. the school of socialist realism world even if the world doesn't you know about it yet greet a number of truly great. britain russia has all the rise to be proud of that and. that's cool like a world of meet

a lot of and sort of. for instance in the distorted linnean hugging mickey mouse and the marilyn monroe kissing stalin. or an almost pornographic by comrade let me know when it's stalin on the top of a naked little girls there as well. it's a nasty takeoff on what was going on. on the one hand it might be needed but it really has nothing to do with the serious school of socialist realism in. your story with fifty dollars it. has already be comically share. it with fifty bucks and. i didn't go to america i went to france. fifty dollars in your pocket when you got to france which was one hundred fifty francs at the time. it wasn't hard to find your place you had to find in any local artist seen the artistic establishment did you feel like no one needs you over there.

my fate was a difficult one in the sense. that but almost nine hundred seventy want. i was a vision of mine it was held by dint of it and his gallery and you know very nice a well known gallery going to my you're my old school my muse who because she was his muse. his entire property. to some litigation but she laid her hands on all his houses. everything he had ever created in his lifetime. something of a lady's anything. but poor good out. of our own stalk if you use it right maybe judea. well we did she was in love with me and my work. came to france she saw me and gave me as a gift a small shutoff and trumbull here. three days later she came to the chateau with

a contract for ten years. the way was an absolute give. russia today that is a market. i was wise enough to see she was out to milk me. under its terms i was supposed to do as i was told. i had to give up my quest in the area of metaphysical synthetics as i was only allowed to do gallant scenes and still lives because they were sold better than anything so on and so forth. do you mean you. refused to sign your contract. which if you know i gave out the shut. up when i returned and three days later after reading the contract i said to my dear girls in my wonderous creature my sweet roly-poly i'm giving you back the key. blue and dreams of us travelling in india me seeing the world a not for me. i want exchange a plane or

a gilded one. left for the great wide world to the screams about any crawling back in three days on my knees. for him she was yelling i was a soviet but not in the western jungle i would soon learn what it was like. but i said to her proudly precisely because i'm a soviet my pride is a special one that i won't come back to you either on my knees or otherwise. you. will be back shortly. to stay with us. wealthy british style stock.

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welcome back to spotlight i am now doing our than just to remind you that today we're talking about all right and my guest on the show is we should make it. you said you had come to france with two hundred something francs in your pocket and you and your each competitor i'm a christian should you wish it over your contract for twenty years but he declined old and you would through to the altar darker so with what was left of your francs is that yes the states are you sure you didn't make it was cool or was it because of something green in your ability russian nature at all. five years i had handled some. and messy jobs. i was a menial work at the hematological and that implied that you did the dirtiest and hardest jobs. i was a hand to the city scrapyard surreal with a pair of rubber boots on and a pitchfork in my hands i had to move restaurant and saw that eating house waste.

so what i was handing those heavy speech after the first of may but it's because the festival padres were held to a palace where waialae and eleven guys were in charge of the palace square of what they do with it so it was absolutely out of the question that i'd be scared of hard physical work the most important thing for me was my freedom and when the owner encroached upon the holy of holies my creative freedom which was my conscious choice after all i could have joined the artists union i could have made good money as a black and white artist i think but did you really feel part your first encounter with the sheeple that contrary to your really feel that you warn the free world after all that away or do you truly boast the freedom which the soviet union left yes of course absolute freedom i wasn't seeing portraits of landing on a. non-standard iraq. everywhere you know still beyond that numerous as lenin's.

for another and you fairly well that if the conditions where i live but just to pull them there was no heating the windows were smashed and hammered some plywood on and painted the walls as good as i managed. there was no kitchen at the well known generally anything. it was an abandoned me where i began my new life and i was happy as i was happy for one simple reason because i knew that no one would invade my friends as without even a search warrant no one would drum machine my books drawings easels and letters at six in the morning and i knew that i. be taken for questioning with the word bred on it as it happened in the past and most importantly i wouldn't be confined to a mad house they didn't get me with god knows what in short i was walling and happiness. and where money was concerned i wasn't frightened at all i didn't come to us from the sky i didn't think i was

a genius do you believe you're one now it's because you said i didn't. know i'm describing the frame of mind i was in shock. and i felt the other way about it . nor would i make a new shows a ball. and be just marking time big problem with some great guys because at that time we were all nonconformists and had the same status regardless of how good. skills work was but when we began making it to the west became clear that some were not quite so good painters others are not so good sculptors and if i differences cropped up for me knowing full well that if i had to take or annoyed to take it without thinking twice i even have an article entitled. hand i keep it in.

by the way one of the latest project. based on. fairy tales. details. this fantasy world is coming to live a new. idea. has been. the stream has turned into the biggest project that there were. this worked on since the collapse of the. new computer animation a special effects on the notion that its unique atmosphere. to created shoemaking had to first make sketches for the one hundred fifty characters in the seventy eight minute. vision of hoffman's world is want to be trusted the russian audience has never denied the chairman of rages in france. hoffman himself is the main character in the new cartoon during his lifetime he found refuge in the true work

likewise the animated hoffman is travelling in the mystical world of his own tales which is produced in his own imagination. this particular fairy tale for children has also become in this drama something they were on the ship escapism for life. you've been working on for some time now on the small orange phone there's theodore in the details on the fairy tale rider how many eddie as you call it you promised it would hit their screens in two thousand and nine we didn't see it any time soon . the problem as usual. were making a piece by piece ten to fifteen minutes a film to go to bed and then wait for the sponsors should all wait for the government to shell out it was not mostly the entire project has been stalled for several years because the russian government lacks the money to sponsor the project at all which is a truly that experience or what is a ballpark figure that goes into fooling third soon just peanuts i don't even say

how much it was really never let me know but i know the conditions we've been working in so little why don't you invest some of your and money spent that it will repay its way which usually i have nothing but debts. quite happy for what i have in my pockets nash my lane. used to teach the not character in the morning ski future. not only that stage five bali's. why do you like this german off. so much. let me explain the son of a very jealous when i did company and possibly even half of the family would my actress mother and when he fell in love with her. hand in marriage under the condition that she'd follow him to the battlefield. for two

and a half years my mother served with my father's cavalry division it was during the war during the war. but when your humble servant was conceived to the roar of cannons and the time came for my mother to give birth i was sent to moscow where i was born. after my birth mother again went to join father taking me along and we follow the division with the baggage train and thus reached today's a kaliningrad where i grew up. at the. beginning. my father was the military commander after koenig's back became kaliningrad and the germans were removed my father was sent for further service to saxony. grew up in germany till nine hundred fifty eight. my mother well educated person was fond of the german romantics. and it was the joan dramatics writings. that fairy tales

influence in my mind. not the brothers. grimm brothers too they're not quite in the romantic category well they retailed white cruel. there is little romanticism in them and much fantasy. you handle many productions including it's a theatrical designer. what is your attitude more than music you seem to be a man who'd rather use something composed in our day. or would you watch. more than music there's a stylistic vice. that. you know you're not quite tried there because my second larry. the magic not and elaborates as it were not correct . it is its first act at the y.

and not cracka became the not correct but it was heels of several choreographers that tempted to fit it into a tchaikovsky school but most of it was unbearably to think of stuff that was illegible in egypt all this is a story of the princess spittle a part of a story of the magic of not a cracker to what i decided to make a new scenario and i wrote a new libretto. eve and i asked a friend who in my youth is in a very good we have a hard poser in the positive sense of the word sergei slim's. drive to school or to my libretto for his wally but the more. system some unimaginable sounds and you. are simply didn't know it. was like me secured for not writing all the right way. when you were made in appearance you know moscow i mean those with children people started

saying that she knocking. supposed to give people education. here really believe in this. week or are you more supportive all the art for art's sake approach. he wants. to read. they would not have been such tyrants. but the truth is it's a nice phrase and an interesting one. sometimes say that god can change mankind can change some individual people. interested. but cannot position itself is a sort of messiah. and i don't think of myself as a missionary. i think that we do things that are required by the presence of the science or live in. by society or yourself.

but i cannot leave him without a thought. there were times when i was painted at night and worked as a menial work enjoying the day time clearing snow knew for sure that my paintings would not be exhibited and would not make any money and i could not and still cannot live without it as a real artist. thank you thank you very much and just a reminder that. a world renowned artist was my guest on this show today and that's it for now from all of us here if you want to have your lights or if you have some in the minds who you think i can see you tomorrow please drop me that's it for now we'll be back tomorrow with more first and comment on what's going on outside rush until then. take.