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the. sergeant of the israeli defense forces. during his service scorched a street fight. on the colonel of the chilean armed forces participated in keeping down a military revolt. a sergeant in the us army. tried to become an american by getting pardon me and. franks and reasons differ but one thing brings them together once they disobey.
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down the drain the u.s. is pouring. into the afghan war but. with more on this story. the stories of soldiers and officers who choose conscience over orders and the price they have to pay for that decision that's next. the. group of generals had planned a coup d'etat you know if i wasn't in on the cool i was not contaminated by the desire to overthrow the government. or you. want to
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put you at about eight thirty am. i received a memo from the division commander. ordering me to take control of the regional. and to rest a governor and members of the regional government. and it will i gather my officers and told them what i thought about the whole thing. going to be bits of me until i gave them a short verbal order maintain calm an order do not change the system. and respect the life the of all citizens. on september eleventh. i was the mayor of the city of tulka that. we don't my name is a coup and foresee. and i was
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a member of the communist party but that day the party had decided. that about ten thirty am. i would go to the military barracks to speak with. find out exactly what's going on. to assess the situation. i think i must be the only communist mayor in the country who went into military barracks on september eleventh spoke with the military commander expressed reservations about the events of the day. and walked out of their free to carry out my duties as mayor. if i spoke to this man if i agreed to see him it's because he was a chilean citizen a man who had been elected mayor of talca by the population he had that title i could not despise and that's why i treated him like i did. i am
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alive today because. when i reign hanya. was the military commander. otherwise impossible i forget it. i was among the first on the list of people to be eliminated. by the put use. to them for two thousand. and number one million singles later three years running to dry the heat on titan six ninety six has the news conference good morning to a good morning text on an american soldier who went a while rather than fight what he calls and oil driven the war in iraq faces a current martial at fort stewart today and his trial is attracting international media attention spanish and canadian television crews joined local news teams to report he faces up to a year in prison for desertion if convicted. today
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it is for the first day of the trial in the court martial of staff sergeant peel. years charged with one specification of violation of article eighty five of the uniform code of military justice you see m.j. desertion. i will introduce mr ramsey clark as you all know by now as a former attorney general united states in this sixty seven to the johnson administration you just have to go be leading the defense on the issue of whether the international law defenses that we want to offer should be admitted in this case is that this is
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a or the most important issues in this case. are coming down to the station. because it should such great importance. to our country tend to peace. in iraq you have soldiers accused of violating international law. the geneva convention. and for that matter domestic law course you can brutalize people under any circumstances under a new law. here you have a soldier. who served in iraq. you to squad leader. his squad was cleared in. two abuses that were violations of international law. you know they were they were
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stationed out at the international airport. they were handing detainees but what conduit is three cian your man who had no dinner if it cajun have. only code names and they do the actual and para geisha. but they order. pete young soldiers around on how you handle the detainees when the actual interrogation isn't going on. and they were ordered to deprive them of sleep. forty eight hours. keep them blindfolded. jerk them around make them stand make noise. take your weapon to defuse may shoot the person right in the head at that time. he thought he had a duty to stay out of that. activity. is a violation of international law. that's what you want to soldier to do.
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take more if you want to be a democratic society than a blind obedience to authority. and you see that an order is illegal and you're being ordered to commit a crime don't do it. yet then the prosecution fears that a light sentence or make will encourage other immigrant soldiers to desert the defense argues. had the right to obey his own conscience if you other than orders from his commanding officer a ten person jury will hear testimony tomorrow from fort stewart georgia. universe . i.
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one of the soldiers who have been one. told his mother. mom i don't feel like my life belongs to me. why did you move me so much to the soldier said that it did because i felt the same way when i was there. because we were told to go on missions that we knew were not for the benefit of anyone other than the officers who were given such borders to go into such missions because we knew that there were officers there were pretty much instigating firefights and creating social distress because they had gone through so many years to have gone through entire military careers without having any time some experience and in order for them to have the experience that background they
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need to get their promotions and to make. general perhaps i mean this company experience. is very helpful. but. they don't really care who you are all they care about is that when you go there and don't we get into firefights so they can get their medals so they can get their promotion so they can get their purple hearts. that it is. all going.
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into said when i said yep and then you ask yourself why did all this happen you know why did all these people die. why did i allow myself to be put in a situation where i have to kill in order to survive. were. cheating bush more in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight there was no palestinian national authority and. cities had their own town councils
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knew at the time that the palestinians could govern themselves to a certain extent. that it should fit for one day. israel expelled the mayor of his brother. and the mayor of algeria to jordan. we must feel that the next day we were sent to patrol the city of heber. before but there was a huge demonstration to protest the expulsion of the two mayors and that would mean there were a lot of protesters they were throwing stones at every government installation they saw whether military or civilian three. women shelled and then the government issued the order to open fire on the demonstrators. in we look for that if
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i said no i can't open fire a lot i didn't have the capacity to break up a demonstration the goodlatte had no tear gas no shields no rubber bullet. it's with the you had nothing at all i said i'm a soldier a fighter. i fire my weapon it's to kill me with someone asked me are you refusing to obey an order shoot she i said yes i refuse because this order goes against my principles. no one can force me to kill if i don't want to do it i don't want to be a war criminal. he wrote in a thief so i was reprimanded and demoted will.
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it go you on the one sunday i was in the government building if you want it and i received a phone call from the second in command you go on he said commander general i really annoys here to seal. that will because i told him i would be right there and immediately went to the barrel of a mean. in a moment think it will be when i came in the room because i saw a general in combat uniform going on but we can our glasses whiskey in one hand. if you see any machine gun on the other hand what if you introduced myself and said general there is nothing to report in the area yes me what does that mean nothing to report. how many political prisoners she know how many detainees are there. but also i insisted nothing to report general. once and what commander don't you
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know we are at war he asked me. he like i couldn't help myself and i said both of them did he want war are you talking about generally when i mean i know it's possible to declare war against neighboring countries or scene but not against our own countrymen. went in with. very well he said you're dismissed wait in the next room but it may be then met with most senior officers in my unit and with his staff. and then he informed me that the military junk i had decided that i should report to army headquarters and relinquish my command think it went in to get him.
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it will simply have a thimbleful i was cord marshall and accused of dereliction of military duty to me to get in dereliction of military duty it made. me that i was sentenced to five years in prison because. i went to prison but endured persecution slander threats of execution the scene i mean and spent seventeen years in exile.
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we're going to have to start here let me just professor jules folke l l o l e is a full professor of international law at university it's for he's also the vice president of the center for us to show right wing always. midnight exhausted letters of the judge is not a life i want to just talk you this one would testify to the best. the underlying issue this case is really whether the united states government will comply with its international obligations treaty obligations and international law
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. and therefore i would have testified that sought to make his absence from his unit was authorized under international under the treaties which we have signed and under the president which we are still. after work. at the nuremberg tribunals which the united states government was the chief prosecutor of decided that a soldier or a command or citizen has obligations under international law then are higher than their duty to obey the best aquash superior orders even. cannot be considered in mitigation where crimes as shocking and extensive has been committed consciously ruthlessly understanding military excuse or justification. and that set the basic precedent that a soldier what this obey. an order that is
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a week old. and it would have been much better in the prison systems in iraq if more soul. it's had disobeyed it would have been better for our whole international image and our whole foreign policy and it's in the military's interest to promulgated such a rule even though most military people would say this has to be the key thing but this is a point at what cost if the cost is committing war crimes and discipline has to give way to the broader principle that military should operate on the wall.
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good morning every one of us receive or hear the news room is attorney say is a good squad leader who took care of his men but the government says he left them behind when they needed in the most those are the opening arguments in the court martial of florida national guard soldier. he is accused of deserving is unit well on a two week furlough from iraq last fall if convicted he faces a year in prison and a dishonorable discharge. a military court has reached a decision. very serene.
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he says he stands by his action it's. the latest news from fort stewart georgia. three to seven. army specialist jeremy sivits was the first soldier to be charged and is expected to plead guilty to taking pictures of the abuse as part of his deal with prosecutors he would testify against the other soldiers sivits faces a maximum of one year in prison. might be getting sweeter. what
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is. is that the men who gave the orders not fully assume the responsibility of the commanding officer. they tire responsibility for the entire fall to their subordinates. one cannot delegate the command responsibility. response ability i can delegate authority to my second in command my responsibility under no circumstances. i was willing. and i'm still willing to defend my home. to defend my country. but i am not willing and i will never be willing. to conquer.
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another nation. i think about the real price. that was paid for this war. at home and not only by american and allied troops. but also by the families of the soldiers who suffered a great deal. and mainly by iraqi city back at him who are oppressed now and who are paying them dearly. i think what i am doing now where even if it costs me a few years in prison is a small price to pay and even if i go to prison for this and i will be free. i will
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