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but you can always follow developments on our website it's online all the time dot com well up next for our special report on the start of the vietnam war movement in the u.s. in the one nine hundred sixty s. that altered the course of history. oh two or vietnam when you met a black soldier you know he had it debbie had a special handshake you could even he got to the point where you could even till what part of the country he was from because everybody had their distinctive death or handshake and he definitely could tell if he was the new company because everybody knew everybody had their little new one. of them oh my god i'm glad i don't know or they just check back. with you know we got to come. by.

snap this already this where the first just that high and then the down this way like a sony always do as well and you know like a break from don you around right. there you go that's it better to me or the bloods oh it's just going to bases big a big big big thing they've been going to jail for the power would be just what we did to other things when we believe that they've been going to jail the doors just don't. longman jail was it just odd teeth in the well being it was pretty much just like jails in america playing them said black there was a lot of bouncing in this prison a lot of stuff people would be pretty dire situation. a group of the inmates got together and we decided a. good excuse for this place. what happened was is that the result was alone would be. costly.

that it did break down the jail and it was just made. by the people get killed. i'm so badly so. i was going to survive the metal would get ready to come to the deceased and. you know when you're laying on your back that you can't move for doing in a day out you have a lot of time to think sue and think about what you did you know what you've done and things that you've done to the people that you queue people that have made i mean there's always something that reminds you. that you don't hear. things that you see then. you actually see what i saw what was going on in the states. do to ryan down the streets and i'm wearing the same

kind of uniform that i got there in memphis there that they've beaten up on people. who made it we will be here beating up on people over here and at the same time you guys were in the same identical uniforms and i'm going hammer and you're beating up on. black people dong the runner near where tanks are on the street. in the summer of one nine hundred sixty eight army and national guard troops were sent into american cities as thousands of black people rioted following the assassination of martin luther king. that spring troops were used against antiwar demonstrators at the pentagon. then in august soldiers at fort hood were told they would be sent to chicago where antiwar demonstrations were planned for the democratic party's national convention

. we just come back from fighting the vietnamese not i want us to fight the americans. the night before the troops are supposed to leave there was a meeting of blood as they gathered up in a parking lot in the first armored division section and they were out there all night in a parking lot talking to you know. really why they were opposed to going to chicago we're making it clear that it was a gentle south and it was going to go on and how can i go and commit genocide on my people shoot my people and one hundred black g.i.'s and the straight feel brothers came up and really started pointing on the ng about you know discrimination and unfair treatment not getting the right needed about what was happening with the war as the meeting stretched into the night fort hood's commanding general showed up to talk to the g.i.'s he said i'm just a two star general let me go and talk to my boss and i have an answer for you in

the morning so you know we just relax you know went to sleep i was sent cracked said that he cracked me a sad to hear. you know you know what they had to go and o m p's all around it's me you know what are you going to be ten m.p.'s you know it came at us with baroness you know you would have been. and then there is every now and then you open his formation up and the group are in peace come in and grab a brother and take him back and back and beat the shit outta here screaming in the back you know. see. and they were court martialed brought up on various court martial charges but it scared the hell out of the military. then they want to round and went through a roster of all the units who are supposed to go and took. to be quotes of

verses so a number of people myself included will not send. one of the most infamous events the nine hundred sixty s. chicago police brutally attacked demonstrators in front of the democratic convention although the army had send a contingent of riot control troops to chicago from fort hood that kept them off the street. is no longer certain which side the. the military had a problem on and it was about to go from bad to worse. we were in. the practice line i believe it was a long line of a sudden we see this commotion kind of started to being in the line and then start come up towards us and we could see people like one guy would turn to the guy behind them and they there'd be this excited conversation and then that guy would turn to the guy behind him and finally the guy and trying to make out the noose and he turns around and he says to me they're killing women and children in vietnam i

said who's killing women and children the vietcong he said no we are. march sixteenth one nine hundred sixty eight the soldiers of charlie company eleventh brigade america division entered the village of me like twenty four hours later over five hundred villagers men women and children lay dead brutally and want to leave murdered in cold blood around the world to me live massacre would become the touchstone event of the vietnam war. for over a year the american military covered up to me live massacre claiming only enemy soldiers were killed and when the truth was finally brought to light by journalists the highest ranking officer blamed and prosecuted was william calley a lieutenant. in a cramped detroit hotel a new organization vietnam veterans against the war held an unprecedented

investigation that exposed a much deeper truth i think the winter soldier investigation was to try to point out it wasn't really in defense of cali but it was going after the notion that the policies of the u.s. military created things like me lie ok but it was a policy it was both a written and an unwritten policy and the truth has to be told you can't duck away from the truth you can't lie and put up a smokescreen and say oh this is a the words they used back then an isolated instance of aberdeen behavior you are just coming home saying i'm against the war you're saying this is what we did this is how we did it this was a crime this was wrong helped people to really cross the bridge and to see us in a way that i think the anti-war movement had not seen g.i.'s before america went through went through a choke ok because they didn't want to believe that these things occurred in the name of the american people supposedly is supporting freedom and liberation and

democracy throughout the world and there was this terrible slaughter this turmoil in ames slaughter so i think the question was. why are they going after kally we're calley was doing precisely what we were all told to do when we were in vietnam essentially ok which is kill them all and sort it out later. inquiry city i had a friend who is he was an advisor within our group and one time he asked me would i like to accompany you into a village that was milieu with see how they act so i went with them and. they didn't find any enemy but they found a woman with bandages so she was questioned with about she was questioned by six when they questioned her with and she advantages that. they shouted she was about twenty times that she was questioned. of course dead. this guy came over who was knowing him he was a former major in the service is twenty years he got hungry again and came back over working with usa id eight international development and. he

went over there and rip the clothes off into the night and. cut from all the way up well just about of her breast and her organs out completely out of or cavity amount and then he stopped and not over and commenced to everybody skin off her body and left her there as a as a scientist something or other and i went and listened to the three days of testimony and absolutely came away from an emotionally drained and floored by i never grasped even up to that point how powerful was the genocidal plans and strategy of the us twice of the people on every level. whether was agent orange and dow chemical reconfiguring the napalm because the napalm was a stick into the skin. and that was you know all of this just added to the

overwhelming sense of the criminality the united states. forces day and in many cities across the country there were the usual parades displays and. the recent surge of protest over the war in indochina cast a shadow over today's activities. some military bases where the presence of anti-war demonstrators led to the. plywood or windows because the cops told it was going to. but then change it. because we thought making fun of me was. the second year nine hundred seventy one. three.

our army. is in a state approaching collapse with individual units of having refused combat murdering their officers and noncommissioned officers. and dispirited. by the pentagon's own figures during the ten years of the vietnam war five hundred thousand soldiers. in the face of the. war movement military. the nixon administration the policy of vietnam the same.

to shift the burden to the south vietnamese. north vietnam. promised that american ground troops would no longer be involved in the sense of combat. this is richard boyle firebase pace. from the cambodian border sitting in a bunker not a dozen from the first captives a lot of people are kind of wondering if anybody back in the world knows that we're out here. like. two batteries or a tourist posters in all grocery with nobody we don't even exist. we just need a miracle ships we're not supposed to be in combat that's why the american army did nine hundred that they were there you know that far as america was before this i got there were no american troops on the border. it would be funny how democracy.

why no or. why you go back home the north vietnamese were had they had two regiments to crack regiments totally surrounding the fire base it's plain so it's nice to know. that soon as we start going out there will be sitting ducks you know the best thing for order. to try to hire hired man to go on thursday just set us on the captain crowed in order to six men to go out on a night ambush what was basically a suicide mission because he sent six guys out against two regiments and they said we're going to do it when going to go and the only option it was was to get word out to the outside world and they wrote a petition at the ready we are under siege and firebase pace we are faced daily with the decision of whether to take a court martial artist a fate an offense to grow in the event of mass prosecution of our unit i only hope

would be seen as. nixon was so afraid ordered that company pulled out they sent in a. another company they had heard about the refusal of alpha company the other company also refused to fight and after that no company knows troops would be willing to fight and said look we're not going to fight anymore. there are more problems to winding down the vietnam war than just holding the enemy and moving south vietnamese troops into the line one unforeseen problem is trying to keep up the morale of g.i.'s who know they're going on but not soon enough it has produced plenty of grit insubordination shooting of officers by their own men and i didn't a practice called fragging the purpose my mind was he did to get me or intimidate to myself and all others in authority in the company and battalion sergeant gene taylor saying that some of his own men tried to maim or kill him but

it's not an isolated incident since then one officer has been killed another wounded at this base and there have been dozens of similar incidents all across south vietnam because the fragmentation grenade is often the weapon used the violent attacks on authority have come to be known as fragging and many g.i.'s talk openly about fragging and the military countermeasures say more than one big group meeting where. actually all they talk about is fragment as we call pigs. by picture talking about your senior enlisted men in your officers that's correct the most common terms. forced to rely almost solely on the air war of one thousand nine hundred seventy two when the united states launched an unprecedented barrage of vietnam dropping more tonnage of bombs on that tiny country that were used during world war two and with the assault coming mainly from aircraft carrier sailors and

airmen became the center of the g.i. movement on the u.s.s. coral sea twelve hundred signed a petition demanding the ship stay home and san diego california home of the care. constellation and kitty hawk spawn the movement led by a group of navy officers and enlisted men. we truly believe what would stop that war was when the soldier stopped fighting and still an active officer as were all these other guys and sailors and enlisted people as we sat around and brainstormed about what kind of a nonviolent action can we take that can actually touch sailors. around and we saw the aircraft the biggest ship in san diego harbor the most impressive so our. it's hard for people to realize this but that ship is not a naval ship anymore it's really part of airpower and we use to attack it so it's a weapon of a boeing weapon of aggression. the

original concept cain well let's do something where we allow the people on board that ship to cast a ballot as to whether or not they think they should go back to vietnam let's just hear their voice and then we said no this election should be held in every shopping center in san diego county and every safeway store ought to have a little polling booth outside and we have to see how many ballots we can collect and we're going to point toward a day. to day. make a day to day all day all day living. heck i was a carrier qualified aviator and i gave me a lot of credibility with people earned or not or and even though i hadn't been in combat. people would give you a certain amount of credence of course because i knew of whole lot of that out

military function. then. and i. think i can tell the day. here. well the question is why do you people have to look so weird. just look normal up. there was this inside out we would call it where we would where we were collecting more and more of the sailors to get them involved to give them up for you know if they want to end the war nation's war. there is nobody from the captain of that ship to the mayor of the cities or did not hold a press conference about this project everybody was commenting on us senators were commenting on it you know even if the city folds to for that ship to stay we're

still going without thinking just like oh that's a big ever the ship says well i know there's a lot of people on the ship who don't want to go but military is full of malcontents visit listen. now doc. while denying that the g.i. movement even existed the house internal security committee of the united states congress held a series of hearings in one thousand nine hundred seventy one that produced thousands of pages of testimony illustrating how broadly and deeply that movement had spread that same year the f.c.a. show tour de janeiro despite being banned from military bases worldwide the show

performed in japan okinawa and the philippines for over sixty thousand soldiers and every stop g.i.'s took the stage with them we can no longer make silent about the atrocities that are just. being perpetrated by the united states military and peoples of other nations and other petty harassment of servicemen and women i made two hundred day after day demands all the remaining policies against firstly because there are a certain. logic from a nation against first anti-war g.i. because they do not agree with us policies. need to measure media and go through all of our air and ground troops in cia from vietnam as well as in korea open our japan the philippines israel cambodia thailand germany england panama. need it seems i'm sick of bills now that we could have done there. and that you could have

a hall full of guys with their fists in the air sung happy . that we had come to acknowledge their reality. and do you most. and refuse to kill. you said no man will lose you and only. what he's fighting forces to be free i used to love to watch the faces of the g.i.'s when she sang that it was like this shell of tension would drop away and you would see the youth and the innocence and the vulnerability underneath stone to. stand strong on closets. what do you. do.

this is for. this newspaper the one nine hundred seventy one just five years after how it levy and donald duck and sloan acts of protest thousands of vietnam veterans against the war converged on washington d.c. and threw their medals onto the capitol steps. without a fight at n.b.c. take the stand. you know it's kind of a unique opportunity it's very it's very rare i think in anybody's life that you have an opportunity to really think that you are changing history that you're a part of history at first they couldn't boy protest in a war that the buddha or minds or we had a thousand years in nineteen seventy they thought they did know our reactor there because they thought there were a bunch of them a good out there and. we all just thought it was all money of barter i really

learned so much so just spent a day after day after do you know just people talking about you know what it's all about and how we're going to deal with this stuff and how we are really going to look forward change the world that's what we want to do for it would change the world we're pretty sure this sucks you know we're pretty sure those deserve to be here and so that didn't leave much room but to change the world you know people said we keep going back we went back to get not just keep going back to vietnam because i tell you what the other side does they're always going back and they have to go back the hawks you know the patriarchs they have to go back because and they have to revise the going back because they can't allow us to know what the what the back there really was don't you think about this shit and say. gas damn. it i.

checked. the government pushed me in two days she asked. what's the what's the pride in saying you're a veteran if your what your veteran is something. like. being. a veteran of the massacre at some place or another you know i. know there's no pride. here so don't talk about kuwait. so it's amazing to me that as many as many g.i.'s who were actually in vietnam actually there. then spoke out against it and demonstrated against it and i just. mean. that there was. that if there had been one hundred i would have been made that there was thousands missis.

incredibly. brave people. would. do. with their. bodies. so walk out. that it. might be. most daughter. but no better because of the. way that it would. seem. that we read to me like you would. now so.

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