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this is the. top story. but it's called. norway take to the streets to. protest. this. time next the story of israelis desperate for their country to work towards peace
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with the palestinians but to find themselves facing growing condemnation for their . i think breaking the silence all about telling the story of the occupation through night without you. we're here to tell you how you conduct an occupation. if the palestinians will be afraid that the i.d.f. is all the time where they'll be afraid of attacks. so what do you do to give them this hear you make your presence felt that's i would say sixty to seventy percent of what i did as
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a combat soldier territories was to do with deterrence with you know doing what we call making our presence felt. to go out. should somebody so they hear a knock on doors run to the other corner and they don't know how. just to let the palestinians feel that we control the city we are the bosses we know what's going on we are everywhere all the time. when you're just charge you understand. this is the way to. to occupy civil society civilians. not talking about. guarding the borders of israel and i joined on me and went you know to protect my country starting about protecting five hundred settlers. inside
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a palestinian city. in hebron well inside the west bank. hundred and fifty thousand. palestinians and five hundred israeli settlers nowhere else is the hatred between palestinians and israelis more palpable than here the settlers have taken over central parts of hebron but palestinians are hindered from moving freely. checkpoints military installations concrete blocks and israeli soldiers are all many present. in hebron one finds the most extreme and aggressive israeli settlers there is no palestine everything is easy trail. arabs get out was.
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the settler children are protected by israeli soldiers and paris often eukaryotes their young to talk to. the patriarch abraham is said to be buried in hebron the city is one of the holiest places in judaism in that. you look close one must realize that hebron historically has always been a jewish city king david founded his kingdom here in hebron you. little foot our forefathers up abraham isaac and jacob and their wives are old buried here in hebron peace so it has been in jewish place for thousands of years. was
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its. but the real committee for the stone the fruits of what this state is a jewish state and we are here to stay because four thousand years ago god promised this land to the jewish family. we have a divine right to this land neither through war nor violence but as a gift from god. you're a trader. and may your name be forgotten was. a low there we are from jerusalem today. the former soldier in hebron informs
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journalists diplomats and others the both the situation in hebron if someone is willing to listen someone is willing to syria i don't have the right not to take the reason why i wake up in the morning and i go to sleep at night and then the next morning i wake up and still do what i do is because i don't have another option because if i'm not part of the solution i'm part of the problem. i can do it in a different different place israel is my home this is where i live. i just don't see for myself. oh. well good for you that's good most of the. old you are traitor. you are a terrorist jewish blood is on your hands. you should be ashamed of your criminal.
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was. pushing. you look at this boy would you be happy if something happened to leave you murder. when i was a soldier and have. to say cynically but that's a sign that we are ready then we understood that something is wrong in this reality we used to say that in israel people shouldn't get the right to vote before do because of her. once you understand her once you confront her confronted with the most important question that is what do you choose the land of israel. whether what is important is equality democracy rights or land and the settlers are afraid that. the state of israel. now you are with the europeans who also sponsor hamas. soldier family.
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unfortunately. throughout history religion and nationalism not just judaism have been a part of the problem they've been part of what leads to. bloodshed. and. countless from my point of view desecrations of god's name. the judaism that i grew up with. teaches me something different judaism has to be part of the solution. when i first spent time here. and so i had to realize that the vast majority of religious jews
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in this country understands judaism in a way so different from what i learned from my rabbis and my teachers my parents my family. you know there were times there are times when they won't maybe i'm the crazy one but then you go back to the sources and you see what's there. and. now it is true of course that if you look in the bible you cannot escape the fact that god . promises the entire land of israel including the west bank the occupied territories to the jewish people in perpetuity but that same difficulty ology makes very clear you see that in the bible said in the prophets and the torah itself that how much of that land we will be living at any given point in history will expand or contract according to our moral behavior and so there may be a paradox here at the very acts that are necessary to continue the occupation of the wherry ones that make as morally unfit. to be their.
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as holy as the land of israel is human life is more holy. so if you can prevent bloodshed by a territorial compromise as painful as it is to give up part of. the places that was located your history of god's promise to to the place where kings and profits while it's human life. with hands down trumps it's so much more important.
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i've been i've been but i think that. the majority of the person who struggles is a civilian it's an insurrection. when a child throws a stone at a soldier it's just a fight. when you wage a war against
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a civilian population with an army it's incredibly stupid to believe the violence is not going to. go back at you at some point i'm not going to tell you that it's it's right or legitimate or or morrow to to blow up a bus with civilians but if you want to. bomb and kill a thousand four hundred people in. in in a month and you want to expect that this will have no effect until the feet. you have to be either extremely naive or it's to me so. sometimes in some cases you choose unjust means because they're the only means that you have i'm not into execution i can tell you i do not support suicide at times but i'm not in the position where i have luckily i'm not into position where i have
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to make the choice in my position i make my choice and it is to support civilian it's. of postings against israeli or oppression violence definitely does have an effect. i mean i think you'd have to be very naive to claim that you exist in a very violent situation where a lot of very extreme violence is a directed towards you and your environment and to people you care about and to say that it doesn't affect you. obviously everyone is afraid to die and is afraid to get hurt but. being part of something of a struggle worth dying for is something worth living for. get out of here.
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there is one very sensitive issue for israeli peace activists family discussion about the occupation. rarely if ever are outsiders allowed to know about sensitive political discussions within the family. my mother. has their activities which i'm in favor of i mean i don't think that muslim which is a bad. urbanisation they're there to try and help the road looks to be more humane . and as a political statement to oppose occupation the test for oh no it can't. you can always and blame them. you know because i was so close perceived by the palestinian people exactly like we perceive come out i was said
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let's say never will leave. and say the situation was easy i said that when i look at my son and i imagine him when he's eighty i don't think the situation will be solved place a barrel that's going to be there without any human rights you know they can live there that's something but there they can be that. can't be no rights no no get out of here there's a jihad against it. december two thousand and eight israel attacks the gaza strip one thousand four hundred palestinians and thirteen israelis were killed most of the casualties are civilians that's. breaking the silence has interviewed several israeli soldiers giving testimony about abuse and excessive use of force and.
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this is the testimony of one two three four five hundred people. one after the other this is really it's not. abusing the palestinians on a daily basis looting destruction of truck of you know the sort of property killing whatever comes up in the testimonies. you can come from a different world and started describing stories as we're prime's as. i know one of the. this is what we've done what's wrong. testimonies about excessive use of force are met with silence and denied in israel . i don't think silence is an israeli this is silence is a human sickness ok we're not the you know when you don't look good you don't
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confront and there. whoa. whoa whoa whoa we prefer to continue our life itself on its. supporters of this war you're killing children. shame on you shame on you. nobody shouts nobody kleist we refuse to be murderers here all traders here all traders shame on you shame on you these really attack on gaza according to these really press was supported by ninety percent of the strangeness. jonathan polak participates in several demonstrations against the gossip. oppressing the population is a war crime and people are dying. traitors
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traitors. just to arabs. i. i. respect on the palestinian flag. i think you have to understand. this disownment if israel does exist there are a fascist extreme right and it's growing and strengthening but. there really is a democracy for jews in israel it's being limited more and more with time but for. as we speak now there really is democracy for jews in israel but it's not really a democracy it's and of course. if you're jewish you have certain credit rights and if you're not sure your deeds these rights are much less than and if your. a
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resident of the. president territory. you're under a completely different legal system. but i'm not a trial. right wing extremists and nationalists from the organization. are demonstrating against jonathan polak and other activists during a demonstration against the wall. into to encourage soldiers to shoot anti-war protesters. come on guys use live ammunition give them one in the head. go to hell get out of here. to protest against the highlands and against the anarchists are
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both israeli and international activists they called himself he said this activist they have nothing to do with. anarchy and. occupation is a very bad war i mean of course they use this word because it's it's a very extreme terminology we're not all cuban so we're not. just. for. so.
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let me. get. the current clear as we speak i'm facing six
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indictments and i've faced the more before i don't know if i love a little bit you know i fear i get acquitted or i get convicted i dare stay free or i spend some friends or oh. it's part of. once part of reality. you want to sit at home you know do anything that's understandable. but if you want to get out and i think. for one to live. you have to get out and do something about what you see in the world around you. and then here and now this is what we have.
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my concern is whether something is moral or. whether something fits within my mind more about injuries or whether something is right or wrong. and i think we'll have a very important thing to understand for us. as a people who have done the very very bad things don't have horns they look like they look like you you know i fired every night dozens of grenades and to neighbors or people with i use palestinians as human shields. you know all the things that i can tell you and then you will you'll be shocked you know. it's me and we're sitting now in the same room.
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you know if you want to put in jail every israeli soldier will be used the palestinians who are my generation should go to jail than anyone longline the left or right marching in digital because we all know that this is if the levels of different ways and different yes. but no one was there came out clear no want to serve there has clean hands. were were
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