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this week the deadly attack on russia. has cost more than one hundred victims including foreign service to. our hospitals some of them in critical condition police say this was a terrorist attack and the bomb was carried into the building through an unsecured entrance how can we feel safe if the country is. protected here is vice president of the international vets association the terror group. still out. of an apple or two place in the international arrivals the police say the bomb was stuffed with shrapnel to cause serious injury and damage many of the dead are foreigners from the former soviet republics and from

the u.k. and germany present bed of this postponed his visit to switzerland where he was to attend the devils forum the president says the dead of a managers must be charged with a security failure but experts say it's the police responsible for safety at russian airports. thank you for your time my first question to you now what's happened. seems to indicate. has become a very dangerous place to live and do you agree with this if you know this just confirms something that i often say you know only that the whole world and especially in russia we're at war when we are each time in the war on terror there's a new way and we should never forget about this whether we like it or not that's something we'll have to live with for many years to come. is any other big city is a soft target for terrorists let's go back to the war you've just mentioned so

you're one of those who think we're still at war right there are a lot of people who think so not only in russia but also in america in the u.k. in other countries so you think the war is not over yet right well i would not wish well it's not the same kind of war as world war one a world war two so that is still a war you have troops you have terrorist cells because unless you have already agents working among them. in north caucasus counterterrorist operations are conducted almost every week in the sword that. we kill terrorists we find caches who would more pounds in explosives so i think this is their war but so our enemies in the north caucasus is that what you're saying or not only their no personally i would limit this problem to slant at least for russia he's just the caucus is happens to be the weakling what makes our situation with terrorism

different from that in europe for europe when he enemies are outside that's why i believe easier for them to fight terrorism. they have to deal mostly with foreigners with immigrants because you know if they have integrated into their society where is we have to deal with our own citizens but you are the reason this happens in the north caucuses is because it is. in russia. you're surely aware of all the problem. and so we can with corruption unemployment and social injustice to go into russia as a whole is rated among some in african countries but if we consider the north caucasus as a separate creature and the situation in derry it's much worse i believe you're talking about corruption levels or something like that this is right international records. like a seventy eight out of e.t.a. terms of corruption i don't remember the exact figures of course but you get the

idea but its appeal to certain is obvious social injustice unemployment corruption the u.s. can do sometimes even the use of treatment by the authorities just has been security forces so always. very fertile soil for terrorism and all of that takes is for just one skillful creature to come to a place like this and so some seeds of the terrorism will spring up. and flourish. every war has a goal and objective i mean what is the goal of this war for russia will say the u.s. goal is. curative but what is the goal of those on the side if. they have a goal. is the only goals people may have and what they were doing to use just money and power. and islamic fundamentalism is just to to just kill

those who masterminded those terrorist attacks would you save on the costs which was not just the pure his you know people can work for money or they can work for ideological reasons you can replace money with ideology. uses l'amour rather stewarded interpretation of islam to turn people regularly boys and girls into walking bombs as they call them now midst of a lot of i have a few specific requests. part of the terrorist attack took place adama dead of. busiest that on the authorities are blaming the airport management for it they're saying there were security flaws do you think it is fair to blame solely to the management even though it is a private enterprise after all we have the federal security service the internal affairs ministry and the mta terrorist committee there. you know i talk to disagree

i don't think that the airport management is to blame here. travel all over the world or not concede at the end of his perhaps the safest in the world in terms of security at least if you get this impression when you see all those canneries in the number of police officers if the year before it's the safest except perhaps for it. in fact i had a chance to see israeli security agencies at work last year is that when i was flying in they interviewed me for an hour and as i was flying out for two hours i almost missed my flight of course to some extent perhaps this was my fault because i provoked them a little on purpose because i was curious to see them at work still the point is that it is not appropriate to blame the airport management in fact i kind of feel sorrier for that more than general functions well but they were unfortunate to have one accident after another if you remember it was the madrid of what airport that

stopped working because of politics before the new year here and that was not their fault it was beyond their control now they're hit with this terrorist attack some say it's a private airport but let's just take a look at the various places where terrorist attacks have taken place john of cost the hostage crisis in one thousand nine hundred five the moscow theater siege in two thousand and two the beslan massacre in two thousand and four suicide bombings at a rock concert that air filled again on an open ground lucian. you know one thing i don't fly is this something that's happening now too soon as there was an explosion enter the international airport. security measures are introduced at all the transport facilities for example two lanes out of four of the kosciusko highway in moscow have been closed and i don't see any reason for it has shown with reading more traffic jams i think the authorities and security agencies are just trying to press everybody with how hard to work but all the achieve is just make

people angry such measures can hardly yield any positive result so the airport just happened to be yet another size that she had in a series of attacks. the metro the same can happen any place else i won't mention specific places where you can do this anyplace attracting a big enough crowd of people is potentially cited for a terrorist attack. do you see any connection between the terrorist attack and then my dead. and last year's bombings in moscow metro that you know i think it's the same thing to go to some people complain that these attacks happen very frequently but it depends on how you look at it this someone who was nine months since the previous incident write a lorry months now almost. ten months now but they could just as well have been happening every month i think that the terrorists will receive financial aid from foreign sources and perhaps they need just teach such attacks from time to time to

report on the work done perhaps do more often than do their more money to get us to sometimes they succeed sometimes to fail to school in fact i would like to give a warning that should think right now they're planning yet another terrorist attack and it's up to us in our security agencies to prevent this terrorist attack according to unofficial. thousand and seven hundred russians have been killed by terrorists since nine hundred eighty five let's go to. take a look at some of the deadliest terrorist attacks in the country over the last fifteen years has their support from. the nine hundred ninety five hospital see john of course when russia had its first taste of terror for days more than a thousand people were held hostage by militants headed by shamil basayev russian troops unsuccessfully tried to storm the building more than one hundred people died

since then terrorist attacks have repeated in russia on a regular basis and have usually been associated with the chechen militants in one thousand nine hundred ninety four apartment buildings were blown up in the around three hundred people eventually forced more schools hand and the beginning of the second war in chechnya part of it was militants systematic attacks on russian civilians in two thousand and two eight hundred people were taken hostage at a moscow theater russian special forces stormed the building one hundred twenty nine hosted in forty one chechen fighters were killed children became victims of terrorists in two thousand and four the siege of a school in beslan resulted in more than three hundred deaths most school metro has become a popular target for. the subway so a number of deadly attacks over the years the station was one of the two attacked last march forty people were killed in

a double suicide blast there recently explosion at the international arrivals hall that most schools domodedovo airport is a sign that terrorism remains a major threat to the country's security. you've just said something quite terrible right now terrorists are planning yet another attack. paid for. those people. appears to be some sort of the profession. occupation and a way of making a living exhibits that what you're saying that it's. news will advance there on mastermind who wants to destabilize the situation in russia me guess we reduce us to their olof the world's fuel and energy supplier need to live and there are soldiers who may have different motives and again i'd like to repeat that. blame is laughable as it all stems from russia's internal problems such as social discord

and dissatisfaction unemployment and corruption which he could also says the president of the international association the. terrorist the spotlight will be back shortly after we take a break so stay with us we'll continue in less than a minute. which

brightened. soon from feinstein pressure. starts on t.v. dot com. welcome back to spotlight just a reminder that my guest in the studio today is the vice president of the international association of the terrorist departments. mr no one has claimed responsibility for this terrorist attack at the airport.

no one has made any demands which is very upsetting because it means that regular people i mean civilians and russians and those who come to visit moscow. become targets of these murderous business. i will say it again always need to remember that there is a war going on so we should remember that we should always be alert and watchful we should be embarrassed to contact police if we see some suspicious things around us. then the war on terror will be affected. by the way you mentioned israel and the israeli security officials have told me that. most of the time they were able to prevent terrorist attacks because somebody

. them off informed them about a planned attack. nothing works the batter than being alerted by any. surveillance explosive deterrent none of that can compare with the information provided by how would you comment on the proposal by the head of the state duma security committee of assyria. introducing terrorism threat levels i mean you know like in america they have already yellow green threat levels would you think about it. are you suggesting that we reserve permanently to rid. change the current situation in russia this might work in good old europe where things are somewhat calm which put our people have a different mindset do you remember what happened after those explosions in apartment buildings after the first there was nothing we were just considering the

situation on waiting for someone to claim responsibility for the attack and then scratching our heads then ten days later a second blast takes days and was all if that wasn't that we realized that these were terrorist attacks and that we needed to chattel addicts and the beast and use volunteers as a neighborhood watch informing police about all suspicious people and businesses and we don't do anything until something terrible happens then there were no terrorist attacks for a while and we forgot all about them we forget such things very quickly in six months and next time we remember this that is only a year later on incentive bursaries loss and even then our media tries to tune it down making sure they don't upset people who do it let's not think about. and why would we want to do there being certain that enough is the our this is wrong if there is a war going on people should always be on high alert whenever we allow some slack in that situation like this one to happen. we don't often talk about the fact that

the last major terrorist attack in america was nine eleven or since then they have not been serious terrorist attacks in the us state whereas in russia they happen quite frequently. but why all the americans able to prevent terrorist attacks and we're not. because there's some key difference in our approaches the us but it's a bit there is a key difference they have a different enemy mentioned at the beginning that they're dealing with an external enemy their wars against al qaida ours is not we fight first and foremost against our own internal problems more of a. background for example it's hard to differentiate between terrorism and extremism but he's only looks that it's a very subtle distinction. that the pretty much shot it was a well as far as i knew. of the terrorist attack on moscow metro have never been

found. well they didn't mention some names but i think such reports with a grain of salt and that's the way we do things in russia when we have an order to find a person even if we can't find him we'll find somebody best thing to do they always perhaps not sure a specific person but to do your regular work on a saudi and consistently in fact i think both recent attacks are air response to our fight against terrorist groups in the north caucasus which was already killing testified about three years ago in militants and terrorist leaders have been killed so this is a response to that and it's lost to be expected when somebody texts you you want to fight that. after the attack in the metro some suggested installing metal detectors in the metro but then the decided against as saying this would her allies the metro system would this detect this can be used annapolis including the arrivals hall

does it make sense to do that or do you think that's what we have now is enough. doesn't make any sense to put up metal detectors everywhere including airport metal detectors cannot detect symmetrix or see for for example human foot seven or ten kilos the terrorists will still be able to get explosives in the building i can foresee that what is going to happen now is the government is going to allocate he . to install metal detectors everywhere but unfortunately in this money be spent efficiently i think russia can't afford being wasteful so i would say the right to crucial things we should spend money on the first security services should intensify their work with agents and develop any yeah right which we base. long after the collapse of the soviet union this effect only ceased to exist. after the second aspect. of educating people concerning terrorism for our

people should remember that we are at war. so that if they see something suspicious around them just that they should feel awkward involved with alerting law enforcement agencies about that though it soon let's go back to the side of this tragedy for a minute. here are several eyewitnesses of the tragedy in the moscow airport. but often i saw people bleeding badly injured many of them had their faces all covered in blood i had lost it sounded like something fell down as if someone dropped a heavy cargo construction works going on over there so we thought the sound came from there as if somebody dropped something there and really people on the second floor felt a big shake. that they did use for leaving the airport when we heard the blast stuff started falling from the ceiling as we were leaving the baggage claim area we saw everything was in smoke we started getting phone calls and found out that many

people were injured and the explosion happened in the area adjacent to the baggage claim so your. bags everywhere and everyone was scared to get close to you know you grab the lost luggage claim that which is far away from the area where the explosion happened but we still felt it was a very powerful blast. because people were leaving the area in panic some were looking for their family members there were people on the floor covered in blood people were panicking however they left very quickly then apple employees came and began to administer first aid to the injured. you know what i'm watching these are from teaching again i thought about one poster. thing. there was no panic and one of the eyewitnesses did use the word panic but there were no reports of people trampling over each other people who were leaving the area in a relatively calm and organized manner the ones who survived and the injured was

quickly taken to hospitals does that mean the emergency services handled the situation well i want to. think that the airport management did a pretty good job i know from my witness reports that the airport beast emergency services on the spot in a couple of minutes then began to administer first aid and much was taking danger and in the. explosion started it far so they were putting out a far there was no panic as far as i know continue to do that while arriving planes were redirected to other airports. authority has handled the situation well. i guess i'm trying to find a silver lining tragedy like this one so i wanted to ask you i mean.

there was a major terrorist attack with many people taken hostage. then there was the hostage crisis at the moscow theater and now the explosions in the metro and at the airport at the it seems like the scale of attacks has diminished or does this mean that terrorists are running out of steam and can we say that russia is actually prevailing in this war. i think that the terrorists in general want to create as much panic and fear response. they need big reaction and in this sense the aftermath of the terrorists who would join us in the future hostage crisis was a lot more serious. and then what is going to happen now yesterday it was the fact that there haven't been any major terrorist attacks since two thousand and four and what it tells us that the terrorist underground has been critical of the many militants and their leaders have been killed which means only

a few isolated groups are allowed to think it is over the fog or even in conflicts and to disputes among terrorists he did first in the united states the caucus emirate and now there is divided again with the chechen militants operating separate like us but then what is it in this means that our agents are doing that you have a job. we do it's of course it's a lot easier to send a suicide bombers of us into a crowded place and then to organize a large scale operation that is like the dubrovsky a hostage situation so i think that security agencies have achieved certain results of course after this tragedy we can start complaining asking where the taxpayers' money goes and so on i don't think this should be our focus right now and we need to think about what we can do you so that the same thing doesn't happen again to us and our families and children don't have to live in the fear and usually got.

thank you thank you very much for being with us and just a reminder that my guests in the studio today what they did see feel up to vice president al the international vets association the alpha terrorist the caucus and that's if enough. with a comment about what's going on that rush out of jail then stay on our feet and take.

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