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nobody has officially challenge those figures. however robert mcnamara the longest serving us secretary of defense has established a much more. before the vietnam war was considered nixon or johnson's it was considered mcnamara's war and before vietnam mcnamara was considered a bomb damage official see expert. and a top advisor twenty nine bomber force commander. did his position in training. to know the true number of the. year of the vietnamese released their tally of five million soldiers mcnamara paid a visit to vietnam while he was there he gave them his numbers.
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do you mean to say it was not a tragedy for you. when you lost three million four hundred thousand to be timmy's killed which on our population base is the equivalent of twenty seven million americans want to choke up which since it was their country their towns and villages and the lives of their men women and children it is solely for the vietnamese to determine if their independence is worth the price the us attack. had struggled for their independence for two thousand years before it was finally won in one thousand nine hundred seventy five for a thousand years it was directly ruled and occupied by china and even though it regained formal autonomy and nine thirty nine. it remained a tributary state to its chinese neighbor to the north in one thousand century the
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europeans came to asia seeking empire and france conquered vietnam and along with laos and cambodia called it french indochina and made it one of their colonial possessions. at the geneva conference the it was divided at the seventeenth parallel with the french and the puppet government it had set up in one thousand nine hundred nine still in control of south vietnam. i thought it might be you know it repeated here there is no. there is only one temporary divide in geneva in fifty four between the free zone with a little thin man and in occupied it's own. by the french button and the french had to geneva that diction awful because it could not handed over to her she with. mentioning the geneva agreements the ration of saigon is only a temporary one. in one thousand four. according to the geneva
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accord the division was to be temporary with elections in one thousand nine hundred fifty six to settle the matter of reunification those elections never took place their refusal was amply justified only because the kind of election in visage by the geneva agreement of one nine hundred fifty four a free election could not have been hell anyone who thinks that a free election was possible in communist north vietnam knows little of how communist operate and could have fallen into a peeping trap. and he got upset with me on the broader relations committee in one thousand nine hundred fifty six when our intelligence forces brought in their reports warning that it be a luxury called for by the geneva accords were july nineteenth fifty six were
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openly and would be elected president in south viet nam by least eighty percent of the vote and i had a dream that boasts about believing in self-determination used its power and its prestige and it didn't drop out early to get our first puppet government under j.m. not to cooperate in holding those elections that's just a matter of historic record in one thousand fifty five die the emperor of the french had installed as the head of the state of vietnam was deposed and a new later known and the m. was installed as the head of the renamed republic of vietnam d m was the us man in vietnam and what had been the french war was quietly becoming the american war. there was sort of a cult of the little fellow in the sharkskin suit and a little mandarin who's going to stop the reds and there was a great many articles on this on the house of negotiations him our man inside on.
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then as now the danger was greatly hyped to drive the country towards war. with the doing. something. you'd come to see every creature be it from united states from b a would be a communist victory a victory of massive proportions and would lead to world war three. and promises were made to puppets. we'll say for as long as it takes. which will provide whatever help is required to win the battle against the communist and sargent while both the democrat and republican administrations that preceded him had provided funding for the fight against vietnamese independence john kennedy was the first president to send us troops to vietnam in significant numbers he started by replacing the french berets with green berets and had sent more than sixteen
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thousand soldiers by the time he was assassinated. people like to kennedys were used to running countries with names they couldn't even pronounce. need is now a free me my fellow americans play os is far away from america earlier in one thousand nine hundred sixty three the us supported a coup in iraq that put the bath party in power the cia specifically supported a young twenty five year old baathist by the name of saddam hussein providing him with a list of his enemies including seven hundred communists and democrats to be eliminated a bloodbath and soon. anyways house to plan the overthrow of d.m. less than a month before j.f.k. himself was murdered bobby kennedy way said vietnam might not be so easy and wonders about the wisdom of putting someone they hardly know in charge of such an important country.
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they. are. all about. what. they. eat. in the course of the mire ambassadorship which had been agreed to be last just one year i dealt with fire government in other words the house was clean turned over five different times with the chaos that one can imagine while the national
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security council was busy replacing vietnamese governments right and extreme right l.b.j. acted like he was the victim in this thing that. worried johnson and johnson the room where it even was the instability of the south vietnamese government i guess you might call the coat of arms of the vietnamese government turnstile for god's sake and i remember very vividly somebody would come in his office and say those of the like is a coup beginning in vietnam again of the coup you know coups were like like fleas on a dog and johnson said i don't want to hear any more about this coup shit i've had enough of it and we've got to find a way to stabilize those people out there. but johnson knew it was the cia that was the source of the problems they started with they all jam here remember. me are of a kill so we killed and we all got together and got a guy like you and we want to know that. i really had no political stability that
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the expansion of the war into cambodia and the resulting rise to power of a cold pot was to have tragic consequences for that little country in addition to the estimated eight hundred thousand civilians killed in nixon's illegal bombing another two million died after the war as the camera rouge attempted to feed people the us was no longer feeding by forcing millions that the us had moved into the cities back into the countryside. l.b.j. wanted to expand the war but the resolution he had put to congress had been shelved for months for ourselves but is it going to play out such crap he's going. to kill so that's what i'll. try to
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bring something back. after what he called an unprovoked attack he got his resolution. congressional leaders of both parties supported the gulf of tonkin resolution in fact only two members of congress voted against the resolution senators more civil oregon and greening of alaska. being in the minority never true is it your own track history card that senator greening and i voted in the interest of the american people this morning when we voted against this resolution and i do have the american people remember what this resolution really is it's a resolution which seeks to give the president united states the power to make war without a declaration of war the gulf of tonkin resolution was not a declaration of war there never was
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a declaration of war in vietnam but to serve much the same purpose the president was given broad powers to wage war but what the congress did not know what the country did not know is that the second attack in the gulf of tonkin may never have . it is now known beyond any reasonable doubt that in the time did not take place even the official us navy history states there was actually no north vietnamese attack that night. if one. telegram which we later found from amanda herrick of the maddox had been made available to the committee at that time i'm quite sure they would have had long hearings gone into it and a if they'd been able to discover the facts is the actually where i don't believe it passed resolution because it was based book absolutely false eroni is information the even says they related them of all this to force nine hundred sixty four were not true i was sure of it was not an unprovoked labor to attack in fact
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is there was no attack a poll. did the captains report what they were ordered to report. it's also been suggested that washington was put in a great deal of pressure on you to come up with some positive answers to what happened that wasn't as and yes we were attacked. before saying for only. did the gunner show and empty gulf. just above the bridge of the maddox where captain herrick was is the main gun director and inside the director was the sailor who was in charge of firing those powerful five inch guns his job was to open fire once the enemy targets were spotted on radar or sonar those are the main methods for detecting progress you can't see directly the man in charge of the main gun director august fourth one thousand nine hundred sixty four was
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a four year veteran it was also an expert sonar man i drink park park is now a businessman in los angeles tell me do you think that night in that you know at least well. rainstorms. was there anything to shoot that up there no i don't certain that there was not anything to shoot at right from the beginning and the captain asked me mediately after the attack to go down and. so you wait all the recordings that have been made. noise that was but it's omar was reporting and i kept myself pretty busy for the next three days really trying to evaluate these things and determine if we had heard anything that might have been even a question mark that it might have been a torpedo or anything else in the water not related to the two ships or noise of either one of them and then what was your evaluation and absolutely nothing. the
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pilots didn't see anything either before james bond's stockdale became a north vietnamese prisoner of war he was flying air cover over the destroyers at the time of the alleged second attack in stockdale's words i flew solo there was salt spray on my windshield and i still didn't see a thing meaning he never saw torpedoes or any evidence that the u.s. ships had been fired upon the captain of the ticonderoga attack squadron fifty six commander wesley l. macdonald concurred he didn't see anything that night except the maddux and the turner joy after this flight he and those in his command met behind closed doors and each wrote accounts of what they did and did not see stockdale then lock these reports in his safe. the next morning commander james stockdale was ordered to lead the first u.s. airstrike on north korea. i personally am. in my own my little
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attack took place on the fourth but of course it's impossible in a way for me to pull this way they most certainly did not send it if there was an attack since there was no second attack and since that attack was the excuse that the president used to take the us to war in vietnam what are we to make of the following recently released white house tape unit l.b.j. and mcnamara discuss the second gulf of tonkin attack before it takes place how would they know about the attack before it happened and why would they want to keep that prior knowledge a secret unless they were planning it. now this is an action that we might well wish to consider after the second attack but i think it would be an appropriate general peter three director great and appropriate to provide the cat sports commanded out of the already there'll be ample time after
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a second attack to bring this problem to your attention you can then decide how far you are to pursue the attacker into a debate area. but i wish we could have something that we already picked out at bear and ask it about bam quake grettir we will have that and i i talked about by name all i've gone to and i thought that was the most important subject we should consider a good day and be prepared to recommend a response a retaliation against north vietnam in the event its attack takes place from the fact that about an hour and we are now we better do that it watches something like i don't want to go into a base either i want to keep this is closer to a camp so i just try to keep it to be prepared to do so. it will me. on the night of august fourth the united states made public the so-called gulf of tonkin incident at all but the story was a fabrication created by the us national security council. me as
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a made even as the national security council anatomy american aircraft which were being sent to destroy several areas of our country. in reality the second you talk and incidentally never happened. was the whole basis of this moral fraud and alive perpetrated at the highest levels of our government we must ask ourselves that as we survey the damage that was done to our country and especially the damage done to the. air they're going to go down or green or turn around or ask yourself what's going to happen.
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if kennedy who thought he could finesse the vietnam situation with special forces johnson's approach was brutally simple he figured if he could kill enough of them they would cry uncle in the simplest way to kill us with their power. promise. that heard all. the border. the primary tool that the u.s. used in the vietnam war was aerial bombardment that is how the most people were killed both north and south the u.s. to use nuclear. they used white phosphorus they used chemical agents but
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most of all they used to fashion high explosives. and by the time it was all move for the u.s. government had dropped three times the amount of bombs dropped by parties in world war two more than eight million tons of the equivalent of six hundred forty two were shima sized atomic bomb. together.
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making. the transportation system rolling stock car. beginning with the biggest. margin. is what it takes to win the war. tom. thomas is a saudi. in all this nineteen sixty four. for
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millworker maybe necessary that forty four regime. that's this guy is the lemming. culture is that so much different and there's a huge musician apparently trying to hide from the marquesas came changer in suspense continue to unfold in egypt what kind of middle east is coming to me and give democracy is indeed on. wealthy british style. that's not on the title. markets finance scandals find out what's really happening to the global economy
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with max cause or for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into kaiser report on r g well one one deals with wall for us to realize that this tremendous amounts of damage that have done not just human damage but damage the physical environment in which the battlefield takes place tremendous amounts of damage done by aerial bombs by napalm boy coming from the city whether it's a sonic boom so factoring marine mammals or it's the burning oil field syria and iraq or it's destroyed coral reefs in the pacific for planning purposes the list just goes on and on the geneva conventions of nineteen forty nine states that . they are shall be taken in war to protect. against widespread long term and severe damage the united states although it is accepted almost all of the provisions of protocol one has taken exception to that.
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tension mounts on the streets of cairo with neither side is showing any signs of. join me in a few moments. so they say you have six foster children close with a. human rights activists accused the need in social services of money making scams after a russian woman claims her daughters were taken away from her by the country's authorities . also a tainted tehran fear mongering grows in the us as the mainstream media they're increasingly. often without having grounds for their allegations against the islamic republic. and the london high court has halted a deal between fifty and russian oil. potentially containing for them more in business into. minutes.
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you're watching r t two pm here in moscow welcome to the program where we continue with our coverage of the situation in egypt where the egyptian military has been calling for protesters to end demonstrations after more than a week of on rest and this comes after egypt's president hosni mubarak and now is that he would not seek reelection and september's vote but the u.s. president has called for him to begin transition immediately which is a shift in rhetoric towards the leader and back for nearly thirty years of his rule where paulus leader joins us live now from egypt well paula now we know the protesters seem unsatisfied with mubarak's pledge what is a situation now on the streets of cairo have other cities. well put this is going to to do.

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