one million combatants killed nobody has officially challenge those figures. however robert mcnamara the longest serving us secretary of defense has established a much more. before the vietnam war was considered nixon's war or johnson's it was considered mcnamara's war and before vietnam mcnamara was considered a bomb damage official see expert during world war two and a top advisor twenty nine bomber force commander. did his position in training qualify mcnamara to know the true number of the get the meese killed in the. year of the vietnamese released their tally of five million soldiers mcnamara paid a visit to vietnam while he was there he gave them his numbers.

do you mean to say it was not a tragedy for you. when you lost three million four hundred thousand to be timmy's killed which on our population bases the equivalent of twenty seven million americans what did you accomplish since it was their country their towns and villages and the lives of their men women and children it is so only for the vietnamese to determine if their independence is worth the price the us exact. had struggled for their independence for two thousand years before it was finally won in one thousand nine hundred seventy five for a thousand years it was directly rule and occupied by china and even though it regained formal autonomy and nine thirty nine. remained a tribute to its chinese neighbor to the north in the nineteenth century the

europeans. empire of france conquered vietnam and along with laos and cambodia called it french indochina and made it one of their colonial possession. at the geneva conference the it was divided at the seventeenth parallel with the french and the puppet government it had set up in one nine hundred forty nine still in control of south vietnam but it might be repeated here that he still. there is only one temporary divide in geneva fifty four between the free zone we settle down and in occupied zone. by the french but then the french have still geneva that stiction off now because it could not and over to actually with the clip exist even enough people mentioned the geneva agreements their ration of say is on late they've already won. in one thousand four. according to the

geneva accord the division was to be temporary with elections in one thousand nine hundred fifty six to settle the matter of reunification those elections never took place their refusal was amply justified if only because the kind of election in visit by the geneva agreement up nineteen fifty for a free election could not have been hell anyone who thinks that a free election was possible in communist north vietnam knows little about how communist operate and could have fallen into a moscow peeping trap and he ought to set me on the broader relations committee in one thousand nine hundred fifty six when our intelligence forces brought in their reports whining that it be a luxury called for by the geneva accords for july nineteenth fifty six were openly

and would be elected president in south vietnam by least eighty percent alone. and i are trying to read it boasts about believing in self-determination it used its power and its prestige and its influence really to get our first puppet government under j.m. not to cooperate in holding those elections that's just a matter of historic record in one thousand fifty five died the emperor of the french had installed as the head of the state of vietnam was deposed and a new leader known him was installed as the head of the renamed republic of vietnam . was the us man in vietnam and what had then the french war was quietly becoming the american war. there was sort of a cult of the little fellow in the sharkskin suit in a little mandarin who's going to stop the reds and there was a great many articles on this on the house of negotiations him our man inside on.

then as now the danger was greatly hyped to drive the country towards war. it was something. you can't recreate that be it from the united states from vietnam would be a communist that a victory of massive proportions and would lead to world war three. and promises were made to puppets. we'll stay for as long as it takes. which will provide whatever help is required there when the battle against the communist and sergeants while both the democrat and republican administrations that preceded him had provided funding for the fight against vietnamese independence john kennedy was the first president to send us troops to vietnam in significant numbers he started by replacing the french berets with green berets and had sent more than sixteen

thousand soldiers by the time he was assassinated. people like to kennedys were used to running countries with names they couldn't even pronounce. need is now a three hundred eighty my fellow americans play os as far away from america earlier in one thousand nine hundred sixty three the us supported a coup in iraq that put the bath party in power the cia specifically supported a young twenty five year old baathist by the name of saddam hussein providing him with a list of his enemies including seven hundred communists and democrats to be eliminated a bloodbath in syria. anyways house to plan the overthrow of d.m. less than a month before j.f.k. himself was murdered bobby kennedy way said vietnam might not be so easy and one is about the wisdom of putting someone they hardly know in charge of such an important

country. in the course of the miers ambassadorship which had been agreed to be last just one year i dealt with fire government in other words the house was clean turned over five different times for the chaos that one can imagine while the national security

council was busy replacing vietnamese governments right and extreme right l.b.j. acted like he was the victim in this thing the. we're in johnson and johnson the room where it even was the instability of the south vietnamese government i guess you might call the coat of arms of the vietnamese government turnstile for god's sake and i remember very vividly somebody would come in his office and say those of the like is a coup beginning in vietnam and you know the coup you know coups were like like fleas on a dog and johnson said i don't want to hear any more about this coup shit i've had enough of it and we've got to find a way to stabilize those people out there. but johnson knew it was the cia that was the source of the problems they started with they all jam here remember. me are of a kill so we killed and we all got together and got

a guy like you. i really had no political stability that the expansion of the war into cambodia and the resulting rise to power of a cold pot was to have tragic consequences for that little country in addition to the estimated eight hundred thousand civilians killed in nixon's illegal bombing another two million died after the war as the camera rouge attempted to feed people the us was no longer feeding by forcing millions that the us and moved into the cities back into the countryside. l.b.j. wanted to expand the war that the resolution he had put to congress had been shelved for months. or so but is it going to play out trapped as a parallel to kill someone that's.

all try to bring something back. after what he called an unprovoked attack he got his resolution. congressional leaders of both parties supported the gulf of tonkin resolution in fact only two members of congress voted against the resolution senators morse of oregon and greening of alaska. being in the minority never cruz it's your own flag history card that senator greening and i voted in the interest of the american people this morning when we voted against this resolution and i know how the american people remember what this resolution really is it's a resolution which seeks to give the president united states the power to make war without a declaration of war the gulf of tonkin resolution was not a declaration of war there never was

a declaration of war in vietnam but to serve much the same purpose the president was given broad powers to wage war but what the congress did not know what the country did not know is that the second attack in the gulf of tonkin may never have . it is now known beyond any reasonable doubt that in the time did not take place even the official us navy history states there was actually no north vietnamese attack that night. if one. telegram which we later found from amanda herrick of the maddox had been made available to the committee at that time i'm quite sure they would have had wrong here and gone into it and if they'd been able to discover the facts is the actually where i don't believe it passed resolution because it was based book absolutely false eroni is information the even says they related of all this of force nine hundred sixty four were not

true ira ships were it was not an unprovoked or labored attack in fact is that there was no attack of coal. did the captains report what they were ordered to report. it's also visit just so that washington was putting a great deal of pressure on you to come up with some positive answers to what happened that night wasn't as and yes we were. trying the same for only. did the gunner show an empty gulf. just above the bridge of the maddox where captain herrick was is the main gun director and inside the director was the sailor who was in charge of firing those powerful five inch guns his job was to open fire once the enemy targets were spotted on radar or sonar those are the main methods for detecting progress you can't see directly the man in charge of the main gun director august fourth nineteen sixty

four was a four year veteran it was also an expert sonar man i drink park park is now a businessman in los angeles tell me do you think that night all those floors in the pitch black enough of a swell. rainstorms. was there anything to shoot out that no i don't i'm certain that there was not anything to shoot at right from the beginning and the captain asked me mediately after the attack to go down in a. so you wait all the recordings that have been made. noise that was but it's on our was reporting and i kept myself pretty busy for the next three days really trying to evaluate these things and determine if we had heard anything that might have been even a question mark that it might have been a torpedo or anything else in the water not related to the two ships or noise of either one of them and then what was your evaluation and absolutely nothing. the

pilots didn't see anything either before james bond stockdale became a north vietnamese prisoner of war he was flying air cover over the destroyers at the time of the alleged second attack in stockdale's words i flew solo there was salt spray on my windshield and i still didn't see a thing meaning he never saw torpedoes or any evidence that the u.s. ships had been fired upon the captain of the ticonderoga attack squadron fifty six commander wesley l. macdonald concurred he didn't see anything that night except the maddux and the turner joy after this flight he and those in his command met behind closed doors and each one accounts of what they did and did not see stockdale then lock these reports in his safe. the next morning commander james stockdale was ordered to lead the first u.s. air strike on north korea. i personally am. in my home i will

attack took place on the fourth but of course it's impossible in a way for me to pull this way they most certainly did not send it in there was an attack since there was no second attack and since that attack was the excuse that the president used to take the us to war in vietnam what are we to make of the following recently released white house tape unit l.b.j. and mcnamara discuss the second gulf of tonkin attack before it takes place how would they know about the attack before it happened and why would they want to keep that prior knowledge a secret unless they were planning it. now this is an action that we might well wish to consider after it a second attack but i think it would be an appropriate general peter three director great and appropriate to provide the task force commanded out of the already

there'll be ample time after a second attack to bring this problem to your attention you're going to decide how far you're going to pursue the attacker into a debate area. but i wish we could have something that we're already picked out and fair and ask it about pretty happy bam quake grettir we will have that and i i talked about moneyball i don't talk about i thought that was the most important subject we should consider a good day and be prepared to recommend to you a response a retaliation against north vietnam in the event it's attack takes place and i think tonight we're at how we better do that it watches something like i don't want to go into a base either i want to keep this is close to the camp so i just try to keep it to be prepared to do so. it will me. on the night of august fourth the united states made public the so-called gulf of tonkin incident to be all but the story was a fabrication created by the us national security council. on the me as it made

even as the national security council anatomy american aircraft which were being sent to destroy several areas of our country. in reality the second gulf of tonkin incident has never happened. was the whole basis of this moral fraud and alive perpetrated at the highest levels of our government we must ask ourselves that as we survey the damage that was done to our country and especially the damage done to the vehicle. ever make sure to go down or. turn around and try to ask yourself what can i have no idea.

if kennedy or thought he could finish the vietnam situation with special forces johnson's approach was brutally simple he figured if he could kill enough of them they would cry uncle in the simplest way to kill us with their power. vomit. without hurdle. for her. the primary tool that the u.s. used in the vietnam war was aerial bombardment that is how the most people were killed both north and south the us to use nuclear. they used white

phosphorus they used chemical agents but most of all they used fashioned high explosives. and by the time it was all over the u.s. government had dropped three times the amount of bombs dropped by all parties in world war two more than eight million tons or the equivalent of six hundred forty hiroshima sized atomic bomb. together.

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well when one deals with war for us to realize that this tremendous amounts of damage that are done not just human damage but damage to the physical environment in which the battlefield takes place tremendous amounts of damage done by aerial bombs by napalm boy chemicals that he comes whether it's a sonic boom six factoring in mammals or it's the burning oil field syria and iraq or destroyed coral reefs in the pacific for landing purposes the list just goes on and on the geneva conventions of nineteen forty nine states that there shall be

taken in war to protect one by against widespread long term and severe damage the united states although it is accepted almost all of the provisions one has taken exception to that. will. bring you the latest in science and technology from the realm for sure. we've got the future covered. in india in the movie joint the hotels the us the gateway hoto the grand imperial tried to tell us to toast coral until you kind of let her tell socialist seductive to go and read this and the kennel was a hotel or treat. yes

guys we put music in my ear. u.s. president obama has signed the new strategic arms reduction treaty with the deal already approved on all levels by moscow will reduce both the country's nuclear arsenals by about an. island is expelling a russian diplomat allegations that moscow intelligence stole i was identities perspire word russia has responded with a warning that serious consequences will follow. and violent unrest grips egypt as protesters demanding the president's immediate removal from office come face to face with his supporters and the capital streets.

a very warm welcome to this is the line from moscow with me alex hit clashes have flared up on the streets of the egyptian capital cairo between members of the opposition and protesters rallying to support the current president hosni mubarak the country's leader and now seek reelection in september's vote after more than a week of violent demonstrations across the country in him to step down paula slayer is in the egyptian capital cairo for us and joins us now live paula what's happening on the streets of cairo right now well the situation in tahrir square has really calmed down with many of those protesters going home the square is inching.