how many people died in the vietnam war. the americans with some precision it is just over fifty eight thousand each with his or her name engraved on the vietnam memorial in washington d.c. but how many of you to me not to mention. died but the. good news probably no one. in one thousand nine hundred five vietnam released a figure of food million civilians and one million combatants killed nobody has officially challenge those figures. however robert mcnamara the longest serving us secretary of defense has established a much more. before the vietnam war was considered nixon's war or johnson's when

it was considered mcnamara's war and before vietnam mcnamara was considered a bomb damage or fish and sea expert during world war two and a top advisor to b. twenty nine bomber force commander curtis lemay did his position in training qualify mcnamara to know the true number of the get the meese killed in the war. or the vietnamese released their tally of five million soldiers mcnamara paid a visit to vietnam while he was there he gave them his numbers. do you mean to say it was not a tragedy for you. when you lost three million four hundred thousand to be timmy's killed which on our population bases the equivalent of twenty seven million americans what did you accomplish since it was their country their towns and

villages and the lives of their men women and children it is solely for the vietnamese to determine if their independence is more the price the us exact. had struggled for their independence for two thousand years before it was finally won in one thousand nine hundred seventy five for a thousand years it was directly rule and occupied by china and even though it regained formal autonomy nine thirty nine. remained a tribute to its chinese neighbor to the. one thousand century the europeans. empire of france conquered vietnam and along with laos and cambodia called it french indochina and made it one of their colonial possession. at the geneva

conference the it was divided at the seventeenth parallel with the french and the puppet government it had set up in one nine hundred forty nine still in control of south vietnam but it might be repeated here that you still. there is only one temporary divide in geneva fifty four between the free zone we said both on and then looked at by its own. by the french and the french at geneva it just stiction off now because it could not and over the issue with the clip exist even mention the geneva agreement the regime of saigon is on late they've already won. in one thousand four. according to the geneva accord the division was to be temporary with elections in one thousand nine hundred fifty six to settle the matter of reunification those elections never took place their refusal was amply justified if only because the kind of elections in visit by the geneva

agreement up nineteen fifty for a free election could not have been hell anyone who thinks that a free election was possible in communist north vietnam knows little about how communist operate and could have fallen into a moscow peeping trap and he ought to set me on the broader relations committee in one thousand nine hundred fifty six when our intelligence forces brought in their reports warning that if the election called for by the geneva accords were july nineteenth fifty six were openly and would be elected president in south vietnam by least eighty percent of the load and i are trying to read that boasts about believing in self-determination it used its power and its prestige and its influence really to get our first puppet government under j.m.

not to cooperate in holding those elections that's just a matter of historic record in one thousand fifty five died the emperor of the french had installed as the head of the state of vietnam was deposed and a new leader known him was installed as the head of the renamed republic of vietnam . was the us man in vietnam and what had then the french war was quietly becoming the american war. there was sort of a cult of the little fellow in the sharkskin suit and a little mandarin who's going to stop the reds and there was a great many articles on this on the notion of negotiations him our man inside on. then as now the danger was greatly hyped to drive the country towards war. it was something. you can't recreate the united states from

vietnam would be a communist that a victory of massive proportions and would lead to world war three. and promises were made to puppets. we'll stay for as long as it takes. which will provide whatever help is required there when the battle against the communist and sergeant while both the democrat and republican administrations that preceded him had provided funding for the fight against vietnamese independence john kennedy was the first president to send us troops to vietnam in significant numbers he started by replacing the french berets with green berets and had sent more than sixteen thousand soldiers by the time he was assassinated. people like to kennedys were used to running countries with names they couldn't even pronounce. need is now a three hundred eighty my fellow americans play os is far away from america earlier

in one thousand nine hundred sixty three the us supported a coup in iraq that put the baath party in power the cia specifically supported a young twenty five year old baathist by the name of saddam hussein providing him with a list of his enemies including seven hundred communists and democrats to be eliminated a bloodbath and soon. anyways house needed to plan the overthrow of d.m. less than a month before j.f.k. himself was murdered bobby kennedy way said vietnam might not be so easy and wonders about the wisdom of putting someone they hardly know in charge of such an important country.

in the course of the miers ambassadorship which had been agreed to be last just one year i dealt with fire government in other words the house was clean turned over five different times for the chaos that one can imagine while the national security council was busy replacing vietnamese governments right and extreme right l.b.j. acted like he was the victim in this thing the. worried johnson and johnson the room where it even was the instability of the south vietnamese government i guess

you might call the coat of arms or the vietnamese government turnstile for god's sake and i remember very vividly somebody would come in his office and say those of the like is a coup beginning in vietnam again of the coup you know coups were like like fleas on a dog and johnson said i don't want to hear any more about this coup shit i've had enough of it and we've got to find a way to stabilize those people out there. but johnson knew it was the cia that was the source of the problems they started with me on here remember. any art of a kill so we killed and we all got together and got a goddamn like you and we went in a sack and i really had no political stability that the expansion of the war into cambodia and the resulting rise to power of a cold pot was to have tragic consequences for that little country in addition to the estimated eight hundred thousand civilians killed in nixon's illegal bombing

another two million died after the war as the camera rouge attempted to feed people the us was no longer feeding by forcing millions that the us had moved into the cities back into the countryside. l.b.j. wanted to expand the war but the resolution he had put to congress had been shelved for months for all yourself but it can play out it's crap as it will fill out a case of up it's. all try to bring something back. after what he called an unprovoked attack he got his resolution congressional leaders of both parties supported the

gulf of tonkin resolution in fact only two members of congress voted against the resolution senators morse of oregon and greening of alaska. being in the minority never cruise it's your own in fact history card that senator greening and i voted in the interest of the american people this morning when we voted against this resolution and i'd have the american people remember what this resolution really is it's a resolution which seeks to give the president united states the power to make war without a declaration of war the gulf of tonkin resolution was not a declaration of war there never was a declaration of war in vietnam but to serve much the same purpose the president was given broad powers to wage war but what the congress did not know what the country did not know is that the second attack in the gulf of tonkin may never have . it is now known beyond any reasonable doubt that in the time did not take

place even the official us navy history states there was actually no north vietnamese attack that night. if one. telegram which we later found from amanda herrick of the maddox had been made available to the committee at that time i'm quite sure they would have had long hearings gone into it and if they'd been able to discover the fact is they actually were i don't believe it passed a resolution because it was based book absolutely false eroni is information the even says they related of all this of force nine hundred sixty four were not true i was sure of it was not an unprovoked livered attack in fact is there was no attack of cool. did the captain's report what they were ordered to report. it's also been suggested that washington was great deal of pressure on you to come up with some

positive answers to what happened that night wasn't as and yes we were attacked and . things for only. did the gunner show an empty gulf. just above the bridge of the maddox where captain herrick was is the main gun director and inside the director was the sailor who was in charge of firing those powerful five inch guns his job was to open fire once the enemy targets were spotted on radar or sonar those are the main methods for detecting progress you can't see directly the man in charge of the main gun director august fourth one thousand nine hundred fifty four was a four year veteran it was also an expert sonar man i drink park park is now a businessman in los angeles tommy do you think that night all those floors in the pitch black enough of a swell. rainstorms. was there anything to shoot at up there no i don't

certain that there was not anything to shoot at right from the beginning and the captain asked me mediately after the attack to go down and have a. well you wait all the recordings that have been made. noise that was but it's omar was reporting and i kept myself pretty busy for the next three days really trying to evaluate these things and determine if we had heard anything that might have been even a question mark that it might have been a torpedo or anything else in the water not related to the two ships or noise of either one of them and then what was your evaluation and absolutely nothing. the pilots didn't see anything either before james bond's stockdale became a north vietnamese prisoner of war he was flying air cover over the destroyers at the time of the alleged second attack in stockdale's words i flew

solo there was salt spray on my windshield and i still didn't see a thing meaning he never saw torpedoes or any evidence that the u.s. ships had been fired upon the captain of the ticonderoga attack squadron fifty six commander wesley l. macdonald concurred he didn't see anything that night except the maddux and the turner joy after this flight he and those in his command met behind closed doors and each wrote accounts of what they did and did not see stockdale then lock these reports in his safe. the next morning commander james stockdale was ordered to lead the first u.s. air strike on north korea. i personally am. in my own my little attack took place on the fourth but of course it's impossible in a way for me to pull that this way they most certainly did not send it if there was an attack since there was no second attack and since that attack was the excuse

that the president used to take the us to war in vietnam what are we to make of the following recently released white house tape unit l.b.j. and mcnamara discuss the second gulf of tonkin attack before it takes place how would they know about the attack before it happened and why would they want to keep that prior knowledge a secret unless they were planning it. now this is an action that we might well wish to consider after the second attack but i think it would be an appropriate general peter three of the great and appropriate to provide the cat's parts commanded out of the already there'll be ample time after a second attack to bring this problem to your attention you can then decide how far you are to pursue the attacker into a debate area. but i wish we could have something that we are already picked out and fair and just get about three bam quake grettir we will have

that and i know i talked about my name on it on top and i thought that was the most important subject we should consider today and be prepared to recommend to you a response a retaliation against north vietnam in the event that the tactics place of the fact that. we are now we better do better to watch is something like i don't want to go into a base either i want to keep issues close or care so i just try to keep it to be prepared to do so. it will mean. on the night of august fourth the united states made public the so-called gulf of tonkin incident to be all but the story was a fabrication created by the us national security council. me as a name even as the national security council met me american aircraft which were being sent to destroy several areas of our country. in reality the second you call for talk and incidentally this never happened. was the whole basis of this moral

fraud and alive perpetrated at the highest levels of our government we must ask ourselves that as we survey the damage that was done to our country and especially the damage done to the. door down or green or barren of trying to ask yourself what's going to happen all. if kennedy who thought he could finesse the vietnam situation with special forces johnson's approach was brutally simple the figured if he could kill enough of them they would cry uncle in the simplest way to kill us with their power.

promise. better heard on. the border. they're going to. the primary tool that the u.s. used in the vietnam war was aerial bombardment that is how the most people were killed both north and south the us to use napalm. they used white phosphorus they used chemical agents but most of all they used to fashion high explosives. and by the time it was all over the u.s. government had dropped three times the amount of bombs dropped by parties in world war two more than eight million tons the equivalent of six hundred forty

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