covered. hello again and welcome to spotlight the interview show on our t.v. . show is on our jubilance lisa wayne here is now topping the organization for security and cooperation in europe not an easy task if we remember the problems they have to tackle the human rights abuses in. the situation in the transnistria in the garden and so on and so forth what's their fresh look at those problems let's ask the lithuanian foreign minister. just. people we see often some deloris accuse the country's leader alexander lukashenko fall played during recent presidential elections that cost the office its license

and the always see chairman sees little hope mr bush angle can be talked into changing his mind but the lithuanian foreign minister drawn a sociable is optimistic about the fact economic sanctions can have a mains and he's also optimistic about the frozen conflict in trans am hoping something finally change for the better. minister welcome to the show thank you very much we'll spotlight my pleasure well. has assumed the chairmanship of the sea and one of the burning issues is the situation in neighboring neighboring to lithuania also of course to russia where the authorities have shut down the sea office what is your reaction to how we are going to act i doing to try to reopen the office of course it's our intention to the person. to reopen but we would like

to. in this case the office would keep the same meaning for us but it will be this some content not just the creation but to be very frank i do not have very much hope despite of all countries including russia united states. minsk to close various office what next. step is just. to be present especially now and i think some trials are coming just to keep the monitoring situation and now we are working on that well as far as and the e.u. intrade years set of sanctions. against the us which moscow considers to be counterproductive so what makes year i mean what makes the europeans think that these sanctions are going to work i think with sanctions maybe they do not have

very much would say economical consequences but they have i would say moral and psychological meaning and that's why one hundred fifty seven names. i would say put under a visa ban your opposite number in poland rather sluff sikorsky he's quoted as saying that he's convinced that quote alexander look i shan't go faces a popular uprising such as those taking place in north africa unless he changes course and stop says crackdown on the opposition sooner or later sikorsky he will be forced to seek shelter in that country and quote well looking for a vilnius do you believe that look. really faces in uprising do you believe that his regime is doomed. you know i'm

not fictionists. not going to make such conclusions but i just would like to look a little bit back i remember two fathers and six. immediately after the elections what we saw in belittles at the time five four five thousand people a few parties few n.g.o.s what we saw now of the v.c. elections thirty five thousand people a huge amount of different parties n.g.o.s it means that receive it success it is growing up and this is encouraging to me but after some time we will see the changes but really i don't want to speculate when it will happen i think our main effort is to help these two grow of the society i would say to support as we support it if you know it's going to be. having only one university an example in

building of. your open humanities university where the two files and your russian students are learning. you have come to moscow this time to discuss a number of pretty important issues such as the situation in the transit needs to read the good and hard about situation so and so forth is there much difference between the approach to these issues in moscow in the use in brussels i would say so. brussels. is a very divided you know. moscow has very own interests. as well but i think some interests regarding the stability regarding the. not inflaming more situation like. i think it's the same in all three mentioned points

that's what i am i would say but i'm quite satisfied. my discussions with my counterpart mr lavrov. because we found some common i would say points there we could walk of course but to say that. like minded in one hundred percent it would be stupid but i must say one thing but i see the real prospect and real hope to make small i'm talking about very small changes in transnistria conflict and we agreed on some actions i mean on some events and now i mean goal but. resume of the talks five plus two and here i. understood that we could expect some support from the russian side how we discuss the south the city issue at all with the russian foreign minister have you have you

touched upon the matter of the readmission of the o.e.c.d. mission. i present our view and i said that it will be fruitful to i would say to extend the mission in the whole territory and. i must say that it will be not so easy. why because of the position of the russian side or because of the situation. i would think of a much more easy situation engine of. what's russia is russia ready to have the mission that you know we have a different approach as you know and different treatment b. are not recognizing the so-called states. russia the us and this is makes a huge difference how we see visitation in the region. so the talk is about the status of the mission will that be a mission in a separate country or in the part of georgia so this is the problem but on the

whole do you think it will be. worthwhile to have such a shot a hero absolutely because i see this mission as a tool for implementing confidence building measures starting from simple thing not to block what to each other on the border and creedence not to close the gas to each other and something like that just to help people to live their daily life less or more normally start from that from scratch and this mission would be very helpful but unfortunately i think as you have just proved by answering my previous question the situation in south the city. for diplomats it's a purely political matter it's a diplomatic matter and well and it's important to understand this is very important but for people there i mean it's different it's not diplomacy it's not but it's still life so if both sides russia the european

countries even georgia if they want the people to live better to help them do you think we can overcome someday these political issues or they will remain there forever i think it takes a lot of time and the band will depend on that i would say very simple simply on the canonical situation in georgia if you georgia rule succeeds in very fast economical development as we see now some good good good i would say probably all of this you know could happen. and if not. you know then you you know i think the situation would remain the same remain the same for years and years of course as you see we be see and it's not a secret we see some military building in this region which makes very i would say

unhappy because the military building means what tensions. and. i would say russia. will not abandon. this military building i think not not much hope. when you discuss issues like like the tribes the light like city have with your colleagues here in moscow. do you find yourself in a situation when you and the stand each other perfectly i mean well you speak the same language here's a let's say do you feel that that system of thinking is the same that you want to achieve both achieve the same goals and have common enemies are not in some cases he has let's take a positive this is a let's take a cut above the both no but dissertation is becoming dangerous day in day and day

more and more and means that it makes. very much including russia including live in a country because what we are afraid before but one day visitation could go under control and we'll have you know i don't want even to mention in what but here. very like minded and he talked very sincerely want to be could do and of course to be very much for having next t.v. over the russian leadership in trying to appease both leaders from both countries says live thing in foreign minister. he's talking to us in the spotlight will be back shortly after we take a break so stay with us we'll continue this interview in less than a minute. well

when one deals with water it has to realize that this tremendous amounts of damage that are done not just human damage but damage to the physical environment in which the battlefield takes place tremendous amounts of damage done by aerial bombs by napalm boy chemicals that whether it's a sonic boom city truck to bring mammals or it's the burning oil fields in iraq or destroyed coral reefs in the pacific for landing purposes the list just goes on and on the geneva conventions of nineteen forty nine states that there shall be taken in war to protect. against widespread long term and severe damage the united states although it is accepted almost all of the

provisions one has taken exception to that. welcome back to spotlight i am now going off in just a reminder that my guest on the show today is audra newest jubilees the listening in foreign minister minister hugh. we're here in moscow and you were holding talks and i'm sure you talked about compensations this is one of the issues that lithuania has been has been discussing and it's been

a dispute between your country and russia for a pretty long time one of them is is that compensation from russia for the soviet assault on the television tell you remember that thing when when delhi to any was gaining independence do you really think that russia that the russians should have federation should pay up for that first of all what we need and what is discussed it's about common understanding this is the biggest challenge but here i see the some prospects. very i would say. they're very in march encouraged by the. recent decision on stalinist by your president medvedev statements few statements on that but what now we're talking about common understanding of our i would say cruel and difficult common past this past divides us. really. unites. but first of all i think

we should. discuss them ourselves and to find common the relation on other hand if you will look to the legal documents. the first treaty about established states of relations signed by the president deals and president lands were used in one thousand nine hundred one said clearly. nine hundred forty an accession that's what from a legal point we do not have some disagreements but from i would say feelings from a separate political elite in russia it's another question that's not now we are encouraged we are talking about compensation we are talking now how to encourage work of our unique i would say common. historian group how to encourage and work faster now we are going to publish a second volume on relations. will be

about very sensitive period of our bilateral relations ninety nine nine hundred but they are walking we are finding common ground that's what encourages me but i don't want to say very bluntly yes we are talking about money a compensation no compensation could be different but first thing is to get a common understanding of the past but if we talk about common descent listen when gorbachev was still the president of this country and after that attack on the vilnius tower it happened you remember after that yeltsin who later became president of russia he teacher of the boat in country then he condemned this attack and he even called upon gorbachev to resign absolutely over over these events events in your country so so it wasn't that enough. i would say so. but now it's not since time so this is

a country the second figure is time to time the listening the open denial of our past and open denial of not just words and statements but even of a history of a past that's what we should walk together you know i would say quite quite a long time ok i'm not a historian i'm a journalist so my next question isn't about history better about figures like the thinning parliament passed a law on compensations wish to live twenty or will seek from russia for the entire period which you mentioned nine hundred forty nine hundred ninety one do you have the so the amount. how much no it was first of all it was a referendum not a law it was a referendum became a law after that yes of course the law which. every goal meant.

to try to resolve these questions about a compensation on. but i must say but it requires a lot of patients out of common understanding and we are not talking on. brother russia's police payoffs i think very personal sacrifice as well and a lot just just. read. those units in. famous writer both of these terrible period and you will see how many russians names it's mostly russian names. cruelties in the snow will say about all these gulags and so on that's what we're understanding but we would like literature and the political it wouldn't stand also our pain and just after that we could talk about and but i don't want to be specific i don't want to be to streamline and to say look we have talking about is money no. ok now listen if you don't talk about

specific figures let's talk about principles i like putting the question to different historians and politicians recently we discussed it with the body of polish colleagues now and asking it to you a group of experts of scientists are working over the so-called difficult questions of history yours and ours russians and lithuanians well what would you say who should write history today politicians or historians crews who should live or of their story but it is written by politicians what well maybe maybe it's what's what's in their politicians what's because volume first of all in which was published two years ago was written by historians by historians. no no politicians but what even now we agreed with my colleague mr lavrov to create

a form of confidence from both countries and we agreed that no one politician could be a member with this form of trust and now we are working on that and i think that quite soon we will get let's say fifteen people from fifteen from either side who will. i would see through to make a bridges. we still have a religious we are still have a good relation for example let's take about our daily life our business is reached almost the same amount as it was before the correct i mean we have a lot of things rich which are good but that's but that's why i don't want just to stick on some things which i unite. not unites us but which makes some kind of a beast between us ok let's talk about dreams coming true. let's yeah you know it is dreams come true this is the logo of gas projects so our

lithuanian dreams can. you know in this country i remember free four years ago it was a very popular one what. is it and we are mighty can this case well you are prevented i'm sorry for interrupting this over there where you are pretty mad if you want to take over the gas transport system of the always belongs to guest i want to say that this is not going to happen you know and. it's a private thing belongs to guys from like fourteen countries european. union now finished all making starting or going to start to be prosperous i mean and bundling. which would give more competition nobody's talking about. you know what does mean. and here we were simple. up very very i would say clear we want to market the don't want a monopolies we don't like vertically integrated monopolists which robbing our

people day by day you know got to be one hundred dollars more than germans per one thousand cubic meters but only for fifty dollars more than let. selections up paying more to yes and they stay with it but what's ok let's take about talk about lotteries why it's so because we just have a monopoly and europe decided to create a common market devout a monopoly it's not so well as the one hundred did you know what we did we created common market electricity between free country. and we did it in a similarly like skinnerian going through is that what we are getting now we of course as you know we shut down our nuclear power station but being you know we have an auction on electricity and via. buying from different russian companies these companies with electricity and it's cost much money oh well if

you just call the drop. but if your gas dream comes true what will happen was called was president putin calls it a robbery what do you want to do so it's robbery here or robbery then is it a no win situation i would do you find a compromise do you think you can find a compromise absolutely if. you will play according to market rules but second question is i just want to clarify the situation. just recently few days ago a prime minister mr computers went to brussels and had a meeting with mr broyles of mr van rompuy mr were together they all three expressed strong support for the fenian actions but they never find gas pro-forma from an uprising the market they can find if they don't know the questions about. on energy and the question is very simple now we are going step by step we are not

in a rush but beary persistent and very much convinced that to be do need real gas market in phoenix i'm not going to speculate how we are going to do what i don't compromise sports abedin already no i just want to say a very simple thing that we would like to see the market. we do have a market now on oil. he always said yes because we had. a you do that with facility yes that's what. project to dive started their first i am not going to discuss now on one on a particular project because i am not so competent. on that and just leave it to i would say to a specialist who knows how much. could cause but we have a strong political will. i would see. becoming one i would say

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