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special report on the. american hate groups that's next right here. there was one klan plot out of texas nine hundred ninety seven where these klansman attended love a natural gas refining and they succeeded the authorities said after they were all arrested no one was hurt and off they likely would have killed thirty thousand people that is ten times the number of people i started on that i left in the world trade center if there's going to be any south salvation. our culture white european culture in north america. all violence is. guaranteed because they're not listening.

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there a member speaking at the end of elation e.p. branch in dallas about nineteen forty seven and after i had spoken and people were shaking in one fell to hug around money and looked down there was this little girl looking up at me and saying i know that you do you go on to mean white folks in income tell us what a fiction to do stats and kennedy you know was something of a legend i for about him for many many years and he was a guy who worked with congress in all kinds of anti racist groups to try neuter the klan infiltrated the klan and infiltrated very very effectively and i think the great mistake it's think about the klan in terms of

a few nuts or french people who are psychopaths. racism has been a part of the american system and to study as far back as you can go. and decline in the samples in terrorist enforcement arm of it. in the mid one nine hundred twenty s. the klan had over four million members you know at a time when the country was much much smaller than the klan in the twenty's controlled state governorships they control big politicians it was really quite different i record the deathbed statement of well more imperial officer a duck president warren harding into the klan and a ceremony in the green room of the white house. and said he was so nervous that he forgot about the left of the car and the president harding had to stand for the white house bible as a token of appreciation president harding gave all the members a license to so they could run red lights without being.

the next step and really was one of the pioneers and getting the klan to lose credibility on the national stage and on making this an acceptable behavior that people who are in politics and then the police and whatever they should not be part of this method actually of terrorism. when the civil rights movement essentially it was successful the klan really did fade away. what they call the fourth era klan when it came back was the clan of

david duke which peers in the late seventy's and really david duke was all about the idea of kind of let's get rid of the ropes let's put on business suits let's hold meetings and motels we need sort of get out of the cow pastures and into the motels. greensboro was an amazing moments that came relatively late. in the century at a time when people really did not expect the klan to be picking up weapons and murdering

their enemies in open daylight let alone on t.v. the fact is that's precisely what happened. with. part of a group think it organized to have an anti clinton inspiration and conference and win with thirty nine hundred seventy nine. i was one of the coordinators of the march so i was kind of busily looking in on this not the only thing and it was actually standing on the street corner for a little while not far from seeing the smith. line of cars. moving very slowly came down the street and cindy said it's weird since it was weird she said no cops here. she was right and cindy did

moments later. i saw this caravan of cars and. confederate flag on. one of the. clan and the first car in the caravan was the pickup truck a guy leaned out with a long barreled black pistol waved it in the sky a couple times shot one shot into the sky and yelled something and the car stopped and point a group of guys with sticks jumped out of the car began beating people and drove folks back into the housing project began to. confuse what was going on and it was happening but you know running and running with people i reached the point of relative safety behind someone somewhere and looked behind me and i saw that caesar. was a very big fella was standing with a stick and appeared to be fighting off some other guys with sticks. and i was

carrying a stick with a picket sign on it so i turned around and i ran toward caesar thinking he could use some hope that i had a stick. there was just a deafening roar of gunfire try this one the noise people screaming sticks cracking all kinds of things will happen to what was going on. all of a sudden. i got hit twice in the head in the arm but what i did know. i saw my very close friend cesar couse a lying in a strange on his chest and face. i knew he was hurt i knew by that time it was probably shot. i ran up to him as soon as the klansmen drove off and i

tried to. turn him over and a whole lot of air came out of his lung and i thought oh my goodness least he's alive he's still breathing but then the air just kept on coming out and. it was it was his last breath it was all out it wasn't he wasn't breathing an. awful lot of cold to go with the. lead. which. i ran over to paul and he was shot right in his head and it was bleeding it was also shot in his arm and it was the most helpless feeling. i kept trying to get out because when you know it could be useful one doctor going couldn't get up i couldn't figure out why i was terribly confusing

. moved around and i was able to see there was blood on the grimace rumi i thought . wow. he was in five hours of brain surgery that night and they really didn't think he would live. the surgeon already you know he was paralyzed on the left side. he did survive but has been you know. seriously crippled. since that time. here we are where planning to have march and conference we've been you know part of hundreds of demonstrations and then suddenly caravan come in and then in eighty eight seconds kill five very close friends and almost killed my husband.

divided my life and in other words it's like before. november third one hundred seventy nine and after. because we believe life is valuable because five lives were lost. and ten people were injured in the tragedy of november three nine hundred seventy nine we must examine the police and issues that brought about these events written akim agreed bert i put both graham did to the clean it was hard not to rock we were not good in a man walk. i'm not ashamed to say army. and i'm not a prude mostly and i don't that's why i'm here today. i was marching in greece bersih night hundred sixty three. and the police never would leave you alone well

the one in there not they would they all the time to help or hinder both this is the first time i've ever been to a rally where there was no policemen they were there and then it was sent away for lunch. police officers were assigned to be on post they were told get to your post what is not been clarified if their post was not winter center for every one car. their post with a high school. i had access to these documents read them back as i read it ot write a play and watch the clock and believe. you don't want it to groups with extreme political views from each other. come together without a buffer. in the buffer with. yes we should have been made.

i did not keep a record of the race of a juror was selected all rejected but if i can't trust my memory after twenty five years i believe an all white jury was selected. this was. one thousand nine hundred eighty nine and this is still happening. and i was naive enough to believe i was in north. the set up for the first trial was such that it rivaled be set up for the murders themselves in terms of the careful planning that went into it the district attorney who is the prosecuting attorney who was supposedly representing the interests of the victims said people around here think the calmest workers probably got about what they deserved the d.a.'s office chose not only all white jury but a very very racist pro klan jury including people who thought it was less of a crime to kill a communist people who thought that. their neighbors and friends were klansman and

i was really. ridiculous. so that they they acquitted the klan and. express both the local and the federal court acquitted the shooters so no one ever went to prison on those killings it was quite amazing. the jury for the first time had a black person and a liberal woman and that trial. klan and jointly liable with employees of the greensboro police department the survivors pool the resources that we gathered from the civil suit which were the certain amount of money to set up the greensboro justice fund which is an organization to fund grassroots groups

in the u.s. south through funding racial violence and that's really been a tremendous positive legacy this corner of the greens were a massacre i'd say the civil trial was a partial victory but other than that it was just lots of justice. documenting the klan as something i feel is a calling on my wife. my goal for the project is to document as thoroughly as possible they have vents the actions and the beliefs of the klan members. attend rallies ten marches. cross lighting ceremonies on private property. i've promised these groups only to be fair and objective and documenting what they believe even though

a lot of what they do i don't believe it and. i've tried to stick to that promise. you know one child that i've hurt with was i guess five years old when i saw him last he was a fifth generation klansman and i've got this picture of his father assisting him and teaching him how to hold a lit torch or to cross lighting ceremony with him in a full row. there has been one instance where were a father of a child that i photographed was extremely upset about about the project and in this one particular photograph that i took of his child next to a black ball hanging from a noose the members were joking about stringing up blacks from the nearest tree and i wrote their comments and their jokes and the captioning of that photograph and it was published and the father of the child saw picture.

and i was very upset about it. and some months later i came to an event where i had not had an opportunity to ask for permission to be there. the mother of the child had come out to greet me she said her husband was still a bit upset and it would take a little time for him to get over his anger. about the time i turned around and noticed the father. had a rifle pointed at me with about ten or so of his buddies they circled me and told me that it was time for me to leave and they were counting to five and i had best be gone by the time they finished i made a decision to leave at that point. so i got my car and unlocked the doors driving down the road with a truck full of klansmen behind me yelling and shouting and. coming up on my tail so i was able to stir up enough dust on the gravel road to lose them.

and i never turn back you know and i feel fortunate to have gotten out of there without incident most of the clan groups that i've been dealing with feel that they are called by biblical scripture and by god to be separate races they tell me that the lighting of the cross is not a burning but rather of a life that represents the life that jesus brought into the world. today we're looking not at a single clam like we had in the twenty's and during reconstruction but in fact about thirty five thirty six different clans groups and in many cases these clan groups all despise each other right where the one true clan those other guys those are you know f.b.i. agents are there you know they sleep with black women or they're secretly gay or you know anyone any number of things like that so you've got this so with the klan seen today are these thirty five kind of squabbling little groups all of which

together my comprised six thousand maybe seven thousand of the most people around the country. and they're not taken terribly seriously. the ku klux klan is not what it used to be today but unfortunately there are still many many hate groups out there and they just are known by other names and i think without question that the most important groups out there in terms of scary and significant are neo nazi groups. us. was wrong. god. was good i never got my stock was that.

was was. the one person was. in the national socialist movement has been around for almost thirty years for about thirty years but in fact it was a non-entity it was a tiny little group that had essentially no importance at all in the larger kind of radical right or white supremacist world but that has changed in the last year this group has almost literally exploded. next gen x. we. have no working class because we have the scanner at. the height of. you know groups that tell us our sister and and concern for our youth was a. big screw up to our supporters on. the right wing racial groups of which i am not connected to i know

a lot of them but we disagree on a lot of things they have the idea. the mass recruitment that we if we get enough people we just got to sign up enough people that we can when we are here stand against fast ration people get worse he will. be sorry we are going to grow we have been growing our growth enough and stuff and we are going to control him put it back on track to chase evil evil enough race if people wish. and i think. i'm. not. i'd like to have stayed in there and i do think if. they have. this. these people have to be put in special buses and transported to the demonstration by the police and that to

me is the ultimate insult i will not be put in a changeling enclosure here i will not cooperate with police when i talk about my rights to prescreen age for. the white people in this country are. one thing about the national socialist movement is that they are very specialized kind of outraged tactics they go up to lead oh hi oh and they march sure they try to march into a black neighborhood and what happens is they're stopped by the cops but there's riot. or not it's next time. it's you know he said there was a. cease and it wasn't ok. we marched in the streets and the game started.

that i will say was from the national socialist movements point of view and untrammeled victory you never had to march at all and so you know there are a. home and watch on t.v. network television of all three major network shows you know black people riding in toledo and some sits back and says see that's how they are. thank. you. you will be. tell you.

no matter what cause it's happening there's always infighting and in any struggle now admittedly. so much of it in the right wing is so silly and my cat fights all the time i've always said even though we don't like it it's a sign of some why if there was no life there you would hear nothing. what we have found over the years is that perhaps surprisingly the absolute number

one recruiting mechanism for bringing young people into the movement is five the music scene i have talked myself to many many people who've come out of the white supremacist world and have said just that you know when i was seventeen sixteen years old angry about this angry about that didn't you know i was a man of my parents for some reason this music interests. of course the real moment for cruithne it doesn't happen from listening you know on your walkman or whatever to this music the moment of recruitment happens when that kid actually leaves his parents' house and coast his first in this are. hungry for the full story we've gone to. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers.