it was kind of the perfect match for me the first organized group i was involved in was area nations and then i was about seventeen. not long after that i got involved with the church of the creator i started writing a column for women i used a false picture and a fake name and i would write different articles about the role of women and hate groups and that kind of stuff i felt a sense of belonging somewhere and being in an atmosphere where people wanted me around. being a woman people did start to know me so when i did travel around and meet different groups i started to find that my reputation got there long before i'd. got the tattoo on my lip for the first time when i was seventeen and i had it read john to darken it that was almost like my racists class wearing

a swastika and i said yes and the tricycle won. angela first came to our attention through her involvement in the domestic a group. got involved in a crime in which a jewish businessman was pistol whipped. and we came upon and it's all video store that was just a couple miles from where i live. we all sat in the car except for one of the guys and he went in and actually rob the store. he made the guy put his head in a cabinet and he hit the clerk with the gun and pistol whipped him and told him to stay there. our sarge sway with conspiracy to arm robbery and i was also given a firearm charge because there was a firearm involved i testified in those proceedings and had a pretty low opinion. until the king and her associates and quite frankly

i was glad to see that they received the punishment the good news. she fell into a real neo nazi skinhead life and the result was that she participated the major crimes so you know ultimately and she can went to prison for four years when i was first incarcerated i was struck and really surprised because there were so many different people when you know of all every color you could imagine every culture and. they treated me like a human being. after being there for a couple months i started to really question everything that i had done what i was doing there and how i had gotten myself there. i think the first person i actually revealed my tattoos to was an older jamaican woman and i sat down after

rooming with her for a while and explains who or what i used to be involved in and showed her some of my tattoos. i went from one end of the spectrum where i hated everyone to the complete opposite end of the spectrum where i didn't see colors or different countries i saw all just people. when i first met angela i have to tell you i was absolutely amazed i didn't know what to believe and what not to believe i was very impressed with her courage and conviction she had quite a story with skin had on her former life. and. i never believed in sitting there listening to all the story trying to make known

this information i have another story and my mom and and you know the stories i heard today and you're going to hear from them and i'm going to tell you i'm going to tell you where and why. and we're going to hear something momentous event. actually calling i'm on my leg my arms that one of our first student awareness day she had an experience which was amazing when she pulled up her sleeves and shared their tattoos with everyone is that these will never be removed these will stay with me forever this is what i wish i could take them off because of what they represent and i have to look at them every single day. in the audience that day happened to be a daughter of a holocaust survivor whose husband happened to be a dermatologist i think that is marijuana my mistakes and. learn

more. the southern poverty law center was formed in one thousand nine hundred seventy one by two more years from montgomery joe levin and morris dees it began as a very small kind of storefront nonprofit agency that was really about things like discrimination and voter dilution such lee social justice issues especially in the south. the center became probably most famous in the early eighty's for bringing a particular type of lawsuit there often called vicarious liability lawsuits against take groups gets white supremacist groups chiefly and that really was a completely novel approach never been done before trying to hold the leaders of hate groups responsible for the criminal actions their members. probably the most famous single suit was the soup brought in early the knurling one nine hundred

eighty s. portland or i'm against tom metzger the lawsuit was brought against me because morris dees and a.d.l. saw that we were making great headway i mean we're appearing on all the big t.v. shows and i was running for office and winning elections and stuff like that me said well we got to do about this guy actually lived in southern california and his wife mary resistance group war was based in southern california but he and his son had very strongly encouraged skinheads in portland oregon to quote unquote take back their community and had produced all kinds of literature shown what they meant by that. very shortly after metzger sent a representative up there to portland to talk to some of the skinhead groups several people in fact murdered meet the opie and graduate student the accusations brought against those were totally baseless really because we didn't have any members or any cards or anything and we had no agents. you know i could

get a decent jury so all they want a case and i never advocated killing any black person i think that that case was very important it essentially you know destroyed matt scar and his attempts to create really a unified group that would have undoubtedly spread you know if i would submit among the rest of us that kind of put the southern poverty law center on the map it made the place very well known and it took me in her time ten twelve million they said on the press always used to ask me what did you do i said well you know i wrote him a check what do you think. the intelligence report became and in one thousand nine hundred one there seemed to be a resurgence of the klan at that time this is sort of the era of david duke and there was a lot of concern among law enforcement s.p.l. see decide to put out a small newsletter that was really aimed specifically at police officers it's kind

of keep them up on what's gone what clan groups were active and so on and that is ultimately what grew into you know what now is a big serious seventy plus page maxing it's all about monitoring these groups of publishing high quality investigative information a measure of how effective the center seems to really be today is how very hated it is by actual right wing extremists and one nine hundred eighty three when the southern poverty law center was still very small a little storefront office one night about four in the morning three klansmen literally crawled up out of the sewers they probe the back of the office by coming up through the sewers broke into the office sprayed kerosene and gasoline around and far bogard. the office was almost entirely destroyed but the irony was that put the southern poverty law center sort of into the new york times and into the nation's consciousness in a way that really hadn't been. people like my parents heard about it and said my

god you know there's this you know white lawyer in alabama who seems to really be doing something about the clam and you know we don't so much in fact that trying to kill the guy. there have been just a series of attempts to blow up the center to assassinate its co-founder morris dees to kill other people here like myself i often kind of joke that you know it's not the right wing extremists who live in armed compounds it's us we live in a very heavily fortified building we have security twenty four hours a day three hundred sixty five days a year sadly enough that's just the cost of doing business. the internet has become a bonanza not only for that but for us as well because it's a really a window on to this world and you know you're not going to find people on the internet plotting to blow up the federal building up what you may come to understand what the dynamics are of

a struggle between two groups for leadership or an ideological discussion about you know is it more important to kill the jews first or should we go after it off a sexual acts and there are all kinds of things that you learn that really do help you understand that for a typical hate group the availability of the internet is a boon people who are tied together not by physical presence but through the internet they are able to troll for new members target the next generation of young people raise money meet in a virtual environment all of very very low cost. and for those of us who are in the fight against bigotry and extremism and terrorism the internet represents a challenge which we to try to use. a lone wolf is i think without question the most dangerous kind of attacker you can

face because you know if it's a group or a subgroup within say the area nations that is plotting some kind of attack or series of bank robberies or whatever it may be there are enough people involved that more often than not if not inevitably word of these plots gets out you know when it's a lone wolf operating as long as that person keeps their mouth shut you know you have absolutely no way of preventing the attack or knowing it's coming. the wolf is a soft contain. or you know but each one is wrongly individualists. and that's what i want i advocate law war has a. way . way. i think the cafe was

a very smart guy. i don't admire and be wrong but he was the good soldier i mean he made a decision about what he thought needed to be done you know grab the federal government by the throat make him pay for waco and so on and he went out there and did. it was a transformative moment i think that after oklahoma city it no longer really mattered who you attacked it's just a matter of the kind of results you got and in fact i think it's clear that one hundred sixty eight deaths became sort of the minimum right if you want to really do a big thing you've got to get at least one hundred sixty nine you've got to out to mcveigh and you know for people who may think that sounds crazy let me just say that after mcveigh there were a number of plots directed against various institutions the federal government and so on from the radical right. to contemplate the deaths of thousands and thousands and thousands of people i mean there's no extreme or not extreme or simply expediency of what. have

a lone wolf feels must be done. i don't refer to terrorism and all this nothing but unconventional warfare. mcveigh accurately. saw the picture when he was over in the middle east he came home and he saw what the government and. people who run the government are doing and how they killed the people in waco how they killed the people at ruby ridge and at a military man he decided as a general of one to let the government know he didn't like it they didn't even pay attention to the growth of this right wing always did its good ol boys no problem and then you know the oklahoma city bombing just was totally beneath their radar it did send a message but they didn't get the message they may behind the scenes admit the message. but the public didn't get the message it was simply he was

a horrible guy who blew up all these people well that happens in war. right after the oklahoma city bombing in one thousand nine hundred five the f.b.i. in fact hired about five hundred new agents and they were largely tasked to domestic terrorism the american radical right and there were a lot of people arrested and rightly arrested as a result this wasn't some railroading into prison of a bunch of people who merely had noxious ideas these were people who were involved in criminal plots but since nine eleven we've become concerned that the federal government really to start seem to be paying much attention at least high political levels and we've tried very hard to kind of remind law enforcement officials not that al qaeda isn't that important obviously it's a threat and a serious threat but boys we have to remember there's a very serious movement here in the united states and it produced a lot of. sort

of the johnny appleseed of the racist movement i plant my seeds in. many of them have now become pretty good trees they're out there and the most important people that i have influenced nobody knows. i don't even know. so i can't tell a good pull my finger nails i can't tell. my personal views came from my own personal self education whether it's reading or observation of racial groups. it was until i entered the army at the age of eighteen that i began to see racial differences strongly because i was thrust into mixed race situation with blacks from south chicago it was culture shock and i observed them and i don't want to be like that so it was an evolution my education

. you know they always ask me did a black steal your bicycle or some no i have never had a black person beat on me or steal anything from anything like that i observe through our observation of the way people live the culture the general race and then i form a conclusion. the reason i ran for congress was the illegal alien problem i want a democratic nomination what set the bells and buzzers ring and all over the country but then the whole democratic party disavowed me. then i tried to go to the state central committee meeting in sacramento they barred me at the door and so i turned away from politics and i said there's no way we're going to accomplish what

we want to accomplish simply by politics it's a fixed game right down to whether they tinker with the voting machines. develop wore white american resistance. white airing resistance had tried very hard in the early one nine hundred eighty s. to kind of gather skinheads together into a kind of army you know as tom metzger used to say the skinheads would be the shock troops of the revolution and at that time in the early eighty's there really were a lot of neo nazi skinheads in the united states and it was a growing movement but you know now these days this is a movement that has come to realize that it's very short of leaders that it really needs to create a kind of new leadership pádraig. to lead the revolution tomorrow well they also

understand that skinheads and people who like to spend their time essentially breaking beer bottles over other people's heads are not going to be those leaders. twenty years ago i told the skinheads i said look you better let your hair grow and get into college get a good education get into the military get into the police get in any place where you can go up and have power standing around on the street corner in uniforms waving flags and arguing with idiots is not going to get you anywhere so a lot of them took my advice and i told them to keep totally covert totally. don't tell people your beliefs never try to recruit on a job don't a danger your career and senselessly operate like you're behind enemy lines what goes on in the right wing racial movement is it just keeps going around and

around they just keep doing the same thing all the time and the leaders are either not intelligent enough to see that they're not thinking out of the box or they find it comfortable to do this we'll have a rally we'll sell lots of beer will rob rob sieg heil will wear uniforms and it will damage a news and down the black to them everything but very little damning the whites and they are the key to our problem our own race. as far as the other so-called organizations with real violence would break out. they could be very useful as the soldiers. there's this very acute consciousness on the part of the radical right that we need to reach the smart college bound middle class upper middle class white kid before that kate gets college where they will be inevitably brainwashed into the terrible paths of multiculturalism and so on. when

i was at the end of my involvement there was one source of literature or a flyer that has made me think for all the years to follow and it was of a skinhead who was almost an disguise he had a wig on and a uniform like he was a government worker and it was basically showing a message of we don't need to be so outspoken we can keep our beliefs to ourselves and kind of get in the places where you went next pack them to be. it's impossible for me to operate covertly because everybody knows me so i'm the aboveground symbol that people can look to. the insurgent is a voluntary association of independent white people working for the common good.

and survival of the white race and insurgency is a resistance to the one world government idea the white race poses the greatest threat to the white race we can only blame ourselves. we have not kept our own house in order. i despise this government or washington i think they're discriminate. but they're all hooked together through this octopus of the transactional corporations business people and political people who are working for a one world plantation damaging the demographic distribution of people around the world because of their incessant greed factor. and i see the heads in the c.e.o.'s of these transnational corporations to be our ultimate enemy they have the power now but they're losing their grip their

gradually losing their grip the m. fire is broke. and it's gradually going to self-destruct. we want to go back to tribalism in other words they want to go bigger we want to go smaller i think the only thing it can do that is a rising of the working class because any racial war starts with economics and then it turns racial. then whatever violence needs to be perpetrated intelligent violence then i would advocate. racial hostility is out there and these groups represent the tip of the iceberg and it's much deeper than it involves a lot of the power structure that's been in power for a long time. resources museums american south and. d.c. area and if i. read it right every it will.

melt history. i'd like to be able to say that something as monstrous as the oklahoma city bombing is that possible but i really believe that it's possible as long as we have hate crimes and as long as we have scant heads and as long as we have people. think they're better. i don't think we'll ever have a world where we don't have races and i think that's a fairly easy predictions make. you know that said the world learned least partly learned a very big lesson out of the second world war which is you know where does this really all lead in the end establishments that's that's the end point of all these kinds of feelings one of the worst things that might happen in america were people to feel the hatred and bigotry and to hate organizations and streams go to the solutions are irrelevant to our future but there are other until there's no need to

pay attention to if that should we risk our future as a nation are people who train yourself. get educated to. stay out of. the big. big. wide.

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