well we can occur but the obama administration be very clear about what the no fly zone would be put into place for and it would be to prevent a humanitarian catastrophe. as we all know is valid to shed rivers of blood rivers of blood with his own nation to fight to the last drop in maintaining his hold on power and if we were to see serious crimes against humanity then the international community led by the united states might not have any choice of words from the live up to the principles that the united nations stands for in the respect responsibility to protect principles but is that really true i mean if we look at the track record as you just say that clearly there are some interests here perhaps something called oil that is really driving all this mean there are other regions in the world especially if you look at a lot of african countries where there has been civil war there's been genocide going on and yet we've stood by and watched that humanitarian crisis go on where's our moral imperative there and we've regretted it but the united nations has sent peacekeeping troops to places like the congo to somalia throughout africa in bosnia

we intervened as well and that always haunts us and we don't want that to happen on our watch certainly the president does not and that's why this is a serious possibility but ropey think of the media as playing here because the me of course i think it's the media's job to to cover these stories right there trying to get people on the ground because people are trying to play fighting for their freedom here but at the same time are they not analyzing the other side of it you know what that would actually mean if we were to intervene if we thought our military involved well has had a diff we had a drug that out of them keeping track of vans and i think that there have been enough reports on the ground there's probably got a lot better at their geography lately i think so they could probably find that you know on a map there are reports on the ground though reporters who are seeing these massacres occur and who are seeing these bombing runs occur and you know that's tells the story you can analyze that as much as you want but when libyans are being killed.

and when they're calling for intervention then that's something we have to listen to but do you think that if the united states to decide that they feel like intervention here is necessary then it would be just the u.s. and britain we would be the only players here because there does not seem to be a consensus amongst the international community at the u.n. security council china and russia are not on board they have system we show resistance to intervention in other nations internal affairs as they see them but there is a lot of consensus the international community there was consensus for a very strong set of sanctions that just passed you know mission security council with a very extensive no fly zone will have to be seen and also will extend depend to a great extent on the bloodshed that we see occurring you for it means a fairly low level civil war but i think you won't see enough movement towards a no fly zone or military intervention but if gadhafi really lives up to his promise and fights the last man and woman then the pressures might become too great and even russia and china might consider reconsider and identify don't think of the

a politically popular move right now at home if you look at the latest rasmussen poll reports sixty seven percent of americans say they think the u.s. should stay out but we'll see of course as the situation unfolds if some of those sentiments change but in the meantime we also hear hillary clinton rattling about the al-qaeda threat but that's the biggest reason that we wanted to intervene there michel thank you so much for joining us too. now before we wrap up our coverage on libya tonight did you miss the u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton testifying today on capitol hill there she mentioned foreign media including our team she was defending her department's budget said that she was losing the information war around the globe and clinton recall the story of an afghan man telling her what he thought of the u.s. media i remember having an afghan general tell me that the only thing he thought about americans is that all the men wrestled in the women walked around in bikini's because the only t.v. ever saw it was baywatch and worldwide wrestling. and i quote there hillary says

a lot about the media she then stated that r t along with al jazeera and c.c.t.v. are killin it. al-jazeera is winning the chinese have opened up the global english language and multi language television network the russians have opened up english language network i've seen it in a few countries and it's quite instructive. i dare say that i think that means that we're making an impression we're going to have more on that story for you tomorrow and still to come tonight budget cutbacks have some police departments actually using volunteers to investigate crimes our story when we return and after nearly three weeks of protests in wisconsin over union busting attempts the protests are now spreading to other states i'll speak with a student newspaper reporter from columbus ohio just in the. rachel martin here broadcasting live from washington d.c.

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in order to fight the fallout from the economic crisis cities all over the country have found ways to pinch pennies and cut costs and we've mentioned before the police stations have now fired significant portions of their staff in cities around the country it's what have you heard about volunteers replacing the role of police officers this is an experimental project and fresno was the first to enact this new concept training of volunteers ordinary people off the streets to fulfill various roles within police departments now right now the trained volunteers are performing all sorts of activities from searching for missing persons to life seeing evidence at crime scenes to interviewing witnesses the real plot police officers say the training is rigorous for those volunteers but i don't know should volunteers really be trusted with jobs like this i mean can you imagine the interrogation process by volunteer cops and certainly doesn't make me have a whole lot of trust in the system. ok everybody listen i have we've had an

incident somebody left their food in the fridge overnight and due to budget cuts we don't have the camera working we also don't have the people to investigate so i really need some volunteers anybody anybody anybody and i guess you can do it. so i'm going to need you to us step into my office. in i need you to tell me where you were on friday i work would you do after work. i went to the bar would you go i went with some friends and my girlfriend to meet anybody there you know take somebody's home have a little party some friends so you took two people. well my working with

this room you set this up yourself use protection on friday and why what did you eat for dinner on friday night i want to call it way you walked all the way and. it was nice up do you calories are in a chipotle a burrito. one if you've been working now i did join a gym i don't i'm so confused why we here and i feel you're being a little deceptive with my questions here you know i think i might have to put you on my suspect list. are all joking aside can volunteers really handle the work of cops think about all the ways that this could backfire not only is there a lack of training but can you really be sure that i don't know a pizza delivery guy is going to be accurate when they're collecting evidence and what about if this case goes to court surely the digital system is going to call out the volunteer if they're ever questioned about their training this is not

child's play this is police work investigations are wrests things that affect people's real lives because people go to jail so look i get it police are trying to find a way to get the job done but i really don't think that vigilante volunteers are the best route to go on this one so let's scrap this experiment and go back to the drawing board shall we. now thousands of people came out to protest at the state capitol in columbus ohio today as the state legislature began hearings on a bill that targets public sector unions like wisconsin this bill would strip public employees of most collective bargaining rights and take a step further prohibiting state and local public employees from striking ohio faces a budget deficit of nearly eight billion dollars and to get republican lawmakers and the governor are painting this as a necessary step to fix the budget woes this is really just another example of the national war on unions that's happening across america join me to discuss this corey schaefer campus reporter for the lantern i don't highest state university in

columbus cory thanks so much for joining us they sure had me on i appreciate you now there have been. reports some people say that eight thousand people came out to protest in front of the capitol that was reuters a.f.l.-cio so there were twenty thousand people did you have going to be there see with your own eyes you have a guesstimate. you know i wasn't there today i was there yesterday there were voting but they were talking in committee about it and the estimate that i got from the state house was eighty five. eighty five people that's still a lot of people considering that you know we don't so often see americans come out to the streets the way that we have in the last few weeks. yet it's still where is the use wisconsin in madison or anything like that because just historically because madison it was cars that have such more of a labor history but yeah i mean it's great to see people whether there's a little bill or against the bill either way just people coming out and voicing

their opinions and participating in democracy but do you have an opinion on this of course these lawmakers are saying that this isn't about union busting this is just about you know this is a balancing act to fix the state's budget how do you see it. well i don't really have been reporting on it so i can't really give my opinion but from what i've seen in a crowd of a lot of people who do see it as union busting especially people from the unions themselves serious union busting. one of the students i talked to from o.s.u. who gave the speech is trying to become a teacher isn't a program he graduated from the u. he's in a program to become a teacher he says he basically sees this as part of a larger agenda of republicans to strip people democratic supporters of everything they care about n.p.r. planned parenthood. programs like that mostly democrats of course so that's what he

feels about it and he said if it really is not alone now from what i understand in ohio the rules are a little different than wisconsin and they only need a simple majority to pass a vote so having democratic lawmakers flee the state wouldn't really help them now they have a republican majority but do you think the democratic lawmakers in ohio are really willing to battle this one out. i you know i think they're going to try i spoke to the senate house minority leader yesterday arman brutish and he said he's going to do everything in his power to try to stop the bill and because the g.o.p. has such a high a majority after the november elections. this bill actually passed the senate today seven hundred sixteen there were twenty three republicans and democrats so they just barely got going to already in the house or in the senate and in the house the make it was fifty nine republicans forty democrats so there has to get

a lot more republicans coming over so those against the bill to get there so right now it's looking like it very well could pass now what is it the do you think of people who are mostly upset about the fact that their collective bargaining rights are being threatened or even the fact that this bill tries to take it a step further and ban state employees from being able to even protest eight seems like most people are are against the collective bargaining. certainly certainly the protests protesting band is not you know flying too well with them but it's the really everyone has no two reasons he said that they want the issue they want to be able to sit at the table with their employer and bargain for their wages and their benefits they can feed their families and send their kids to college and biomedical insurance and all that stuff that seems to be what everyone is mostly upset about. what do you think about the media coverage so far i

mean you know everybody has been focusing their eyes on wisconsin but do you think the ohio is getting enough attention here. it's been pretty well balanced most of the early on it was more more sort of madison just because the protests there was so much so much more numerous and columnists as you know in ohio moves further in the senate further along and more people come out to the state house to protest it has been getting support almost equivalent to wisconsin you know we in the governor there so that. he think that we're going to see more people come out in the coming days i think so i really do think so. soon i talked to his name was low class. perspective teacher said if the bill does pass in going to case it does signed into law then they're going to create pursue a ballot initiative to have voted on in november. so if the if the bill is not voted on by the public and supported by the public on that ballot initiative it

would not be it would not pass. i want to thank you very much for joining us and we'll continue to follow this from here in d.c. sent thanks to i mean i don't appreciate it. june thirtieth two thousand and eleven is quickly approaching the date of the federal reserve's q.e. two the six hundred billion dollars bond buying program will and and you might be asking so what consumer spending is consistently on the rise unemployment is falling interest rates are low and the u.s. economy is expected to expand by four percent this year but according to bill gross founder of the bond giant pimco and best friends should look at june thirtieth like d.-day the date of a band-aid gets rid of a partially healed scap a day as he writes fraught with hope for victory but fuelled with immediate uncertainty and fear as to what will happen in the short term so what does it mean by that well joining me from our studio in new york to discuss this our chief

financial correspondent lauren lyster lauren thanks so much for joining us now june thirtieth is going to be d.-day according to bill gross here so i guess just just lay it on and give us all the details as to why it's so scary. well you know bill gross huge investor runs the world's largest and so he has a major stake in this market but he's essentially saying and pointing out what everybody is q.e. he has been a very high profile program where the fed has been pouring all of this money out into the market buying u.s. bonds eyeing up u.s. treasuries so what it's essentially been doing is propping up that market six hundred billion dollars this time the first one right before that one point five trillion dollars so trillions of dollars that have been boosting up this market and bill gross his assertion is that when that money is gone there may not be the private investment to replace it and that this market could totally tank the bonds could taint and that's the argument that he's making and pretty strong words this

time but he has been down on bonds and how to bearish outlook for quite some time he's just using some pretty severe language in this latest note now is there any chance that the federal reserve isn't going to go along with their schedule but on june thirtieth they aren't going to cut this program or that perhaps they might even i don't know announce a q e three. well that's a great question you know there haven't been a lot of reports that the fed won't end its buyback program on june thirtieth as it has planned that is when it's scheduled to end but we have heard new rumblings of q e three now the only problem with this is that there's been such a huge backlash against the fed after this last buyback program this last quantitative easing program from members of congress from the public it's gotten a lot more media attention so it doesn't really seem that there is the political will or the political support for that kind of a move but that certainly could be one option as far as the buyback ending though it seems to be that this is what people are expecting to happen on schedule as planned and i should mention of course it's gotten

a lot of international attention as well with a lot of critique coming from other countries but i want to you know lot of the concern about the inflationary pressure i'm just wondering how it's going to affect people like yourself or like myself if in fact this bill gross you know comes through. that depends a loaner you invested in bonds i mean one of the arguments is that bonds have been a safe asset so people that run retail funds for just average folks can put a lot of money into the bond market because it's seen as safe as opposed to stocks which have been perceived as risky and people really flocking to safe investments during these tough turbulent economic times where they don't want that risk so if this market was to crash that means the investments of a lot of people average folks would take ahead now the other way that this could have an impact as bond prices and interest rates are directly related they are like a seesaw so if bond prices go up interest rates go down which is what has happened with the fed's actions that they've taken now if those bond prices are to go down

which could happen as a result of the fed not pumping them up with the money that they've been pumping into them that means that interest rates would go up that means that all of the death of people hold just average tom dick or harry is in their house and their credit cards that their debt will become more expensive so that house that you know maybe somebody can't afford on that adjustable rate mortgage that's going to go up that's going to become more expensive and that is the impact that it could have on average americans very quickly is bill gross the only one that's saying these is facts are going to be so catastrophic or other people out there agreeing with them or does he just have a real dog in this fight. well analysts that i've spoke to his say that bill gross has a really good track record and he's obviously very knowledgeable in this market because he runs the world's largest bond fund so people do pay attention to what he says they have a are known to have a really good research term team at pimco like i said with a good track record so what he says people definitely pay attention to that said

anytime an investor comes out saying things like this you have to assume that he's talking his book that he's going to be possibly putting out a position that would affect the company's position and whatever holdings that they have you know someone that runs the world's largest bond fund you know are they going to gain if the fed puts more money into the market yes so you do have to question the source well let's hope it won't be as devastating as he's predicting lauren thanks so much for joining us. also to come in tonight so it's news spreading false facts when it comes to covering a protest and was cause and we have the proof of there there and balanced coverage ahead of the next all time segment i'm tracking the muslims in the west i'll speak with a man who's suing the f.b.i. for placing a g.p.s. as tracker on his car or driver. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to

break through it certainly didn't they who can you trust no one will issue maybe you would have noble machinery see where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called sessions when nobody dares to ask what we do our t. question morning.

the day. hey guys welcome to shelling tell the obama show part of our guests how to say on the topic now we want to hear our audience just fill out you tube video response or to twitter for fun the question that we post on you tube every monday and on thursday the show long response to. playboy. all right it's time for tonight's tool time award and we're giving it to fox news

for their coverage of the wisconsin union protests now if you watched any of their fair and balanced coverage you might be under the impression that there's been a lot of violence and that is it take a look at the clip of this fox reporter mike tobin doing a live report only blurts out to fox nation that he was assaulted by a protester. you know i hate to put you into this situation because you're being shown around here and yet you're being. very strong family because you're. going to . now they're going to let me show you what you know. it sounds very very serious i'm sure that mike was really shaken up by this brazen attack now fox news didn't get any of the video of this in fact they claim that a protester was blocking the view of the camera so as you can imagine the right wing has gone crazy with this story calling these protesters a violent union but it turns out that there is video of this alleged attack

take a look you know to put him in this situation because you're being shot yet you're being. very strict we believe. that you know. did you see an assault there i think that maybe somebody is arm brushed up against her tact my job and fox news land that's called an assault and i strike guys but again you've been busted misleading the public but the thing is that that's not even the only example box news is still trying to make you believe that union thugs are running rampant it was constant and beating up on its reporters with other forty last night on the bill on the o'reilly factor we'll riley was doing the reporting again with michael but then just take a look at some of the video that rolled during this interview that shows a very heated exchange of wisconsin rally before we roll the clip see if you notice all the beautiful palm trees that they have and that isn't. the stuff to tell when

you get to the weekend you get a lot of out of towners a lot of people are bussed in from a not just wisconsin but a lot of surrounding states talk to someone who is from california who sleep in the capitol throughout this process so you get a real mixed bag girl who brought them in who watched them in. some of the different labor organizations have brought people in. who was confident had palm trees and so much sunshine in the winter right it turns out the footage of the fox air during o'reilly's discussion appears to have come from a union rally in sacramento california last week which you know misleading the public for a political purpose of course and then seems to be a tradition that fox news now and that's why my children bill o'reilly and the entire fox news channel are tonight's tool time winners. well many have work to stop islamophobia in the u.s. there's one organization who in fact perpetuating it the f.b.i.

has been sending informants in disguise to muslim communities and hopes of finding any muslims who are staging militant attacks in this process their deceiving muslims and in some cases turning innocent victims against other members of their own community parties or non-governmental has the story. as american muslims prepare for prayers a theory means that the worshipper next to them may be a spy all. this is especially true in southern california where paid gain formants have fractured the cohesiveness of a law abiding community and fear for. my wife. and i fear that. you know the f.b.i. is going to come down. on us after i leave found out he was being spied on he felt betrayed by his country and now he feels alienated because fellow muslims are now

suspicious that he might be a spy the twenty six year old southern california native was approached by f.b.i. informant craig months he'll presumably because of his devout muslim base now the a.c.l.u. and the council of american islamic relations are teaming up against the f.b.i. suing the agency for what they say is its attempt to incriminate people based simply on where they pray something they consider of violation of the u.s. pursed amendment freedom of religious worship the f.b.i. insists that it doesn't ask it's important to target people for their religious affiliations something muslims are finding hard to believe this is one of the mosques where. you pray and socialize with there are muslims. it was during a car right here they started making some very suspicious comments that set off alarms and local community members reported it to the f.b.i.

little did they know that the f.b.i. was actually a month he'll so what's then he was always interested in other other other topics in jihad and what i thought about. things of that nature was his cover was blown it was revealed that mantilla was paid one hundred seventy seven thousand dollars over fifteen months to collect personal information on hundreds of muslims even though there was no suspicion of them committing any crime became says he wrote in the already shaky relationship between the f.b.i. and the broad law abiding muslim community policing stream the ironic and sad but here in america today we have to stand up here to challenge. a government agency that is taking us back into a time when people feel that we're living in a police chase told the media that his handlers try to instill in.