well max first let's play a little clip from this viral hit remakes of moammar gadhafi he's brilliant speech to the nation there we go. that's a fantastic hit sweeping the globe the population the youth the arab youth the thing they love so much about qaddafi speech is that they for forty years have known he's a totally bonkers and sane dude but the west is prance around the world stage of various i.m.f. and hosts and those sort of meeting the west gave him legitimacy so they love how embarrassing his speech was because it was mostly embarrassing for the likes of tony blair and george bush who's no longer in office but obama you know well i mean where is tony blair is he kind of square in london singings and goes into what is why sure ray i mean is he as insane as gadhafi they all insane as bush insane is

dick cheney as the saying they birds of a feather flock together i was i would imagine these guys are all pathologically and same as just a gadhafi seems to have a more extravagant wardrobe there is also a downside has emerged from libya which is the benghazi dance oh the benghazi dance funtastic this is more of a trance music apparently of the crowd is all waving their hands and they've slowed it down really slowly so everybody does the benghazi downs fantastic it's freedom i can smell it. but i bring up benghazi and i wanted to show you this little screen grab from the television while we're watching here and it was you know the crowds in benghazi and this sign in particular this placard really stood out for me no autocracy no despotism no nepotism no cronyism and that is universal and that is what you are calling the global insurrection against banker occupation it's the same thing it's a desk. running our banking system or despots running the middle east oil those are

for chief races all tied into one placard in the crowd these four key concepts are the push back against the corruption that's within every fiber of this global occupation of corrupt bankers you know we have just as much in the west but there's very little resistance i'm one of the common phrase in britain used to be tony's cronies we have the cronyism we have all of the military industrial complex we have all of the friends of george bush we have all the friends of obama and we have that partisanship that allows it to happen in in the middle east and the arab world they've been able to divide people by sectarianism by whether they're sunni or shia and they cause a split like this but in america it'll be like you know the red states get really angry and calling socialists a nazi and hitler and all this stuff for obama when he gives his buddies like rahm

emanuel jobs but when george bush did it they don't care and the same vice versa here in beirut people talk you know that sunni shia shia sunni and then the states between red state blue state blue state red state and the powers that be like to push that that that conflict which is an artificial construct really just to get people fighting with each other and not giving them any kind of basic services yet and also to allow the looting by the autocrats on the desk but they're only allowed to operate in a situation where there's huge sectarianism wherever you divide it and this brings me to this past weekend we went to a protest here in beirut secular activists planned protest and bid to topple sectarian regime so demonstrators were out the street on sunday calling for the toppling of the sectarian regime they were saying that the possibility of achieving change in a country where sectarian and partisan affiliations often. defeat mass action so

anytime there's a mass movement and a mass anger gets quickly divided into sectarian groups that so change never comes because you pick off the opposition quickly through sectarianism rights or sectarian regime so the leaders they create a bit of a cage fight where they put these competing factions into the ring and they just have a battle it out and they're charging tickets to the to watch the spectacle you know they're basically entertainment promoters and the other thing i've heard quite a lot by young bay rudy's is this concern for the arab revolutions in that they believe they had a genuine one here a few years ago until it became the cedar revolution i you know with the logo and branding by the u.s. state department they came in and turned it into a sectarian battle right they came in and then branded it in such a way as to create their interests and the normal interest on the ground here by

trying to escape this artificial conflict and construct but the u.s. of course is very concerned about only the oil price and you can see that in the the cartoons here they depict cartoons of a giant big uncle sam america only concerned about the price of oil rising rising rising and behind them their dead libyan freedom fighters and they don't care about the dead people they don't care about the torture going on because of course the cronyism in the west they have the oil deals that tony blair signed with b.p. and exxon right while being here in beirut lebanon watching global media and watching c n b c it's amazing because they look at the price of gas and then on one chart and then they have a dead people racking up in various regions in another chart and they're trying to figure out how many dead people it takes to keep the price of gas down a penny and this is how they see the world it's all about dead people versus the price of gas how many dead people per penny and of course if they needed kill more . able to keep the price of gas down another penny then they're all for it so they

have these you know cheerleaders on c. and b. c. these overly quater only make a woman going to bounce around saying yeah they kill people as long as gas prices are down another penny and people think this is the cage fight of america is that they've created a global cage fight to keep that but going forward stacey the fact is that price of gas is going to continue to go higher for a lot of different reasons so mark is going to get into some other business other than the exportation of mayhem and murder i would imagine well let's look at this next headline because america as i said is very concerned about what the price of gasoline will be so could the next mideast uprising happen in saudi arabia so this is from editorial written in the washington post by rachel bronson a senior fellow and director of middle east and gulf studies for the council on foreign relations so this is the grotesqueness comparing what how the u.s. policymakers think how tony blair and george bush and obama and hillary clinton how

they sort of people think and how it plays on the streets here as just. shocking the united states has a great deal at stake in saudi arabia though americans often look at saudis with distaste as one senior saudi government official once asked me what does the united states share with a country where women can't drive the qur'an is the constitution and beheadings are commonplace she tries to answer it's a tough question but the answer quite simply is geopolitics and that we know and like saudis u.s. educated liberal elites cronyism so we have a few cronies there so why do we care if they suppress and repress the entire population as long as they give us their cheap oil as she mentions here she says they're generally committed to reasonable oil prices yeah i mean the so i did hear from tony blair during the iraq war invasion there's no such thing as blood for oil and this is really

a joke it's obviously blood for oil it's tony blair is guilty of this george bush the current administration barack obama of course by his reluctance to get involved in these freedom fighting movements early on and still is kind of has a very standoffish attitude about it that's blood for oil that's a guy who is supporting. death in exchange for cheaper gas per his handlers per the mandates coming down from above that's cronyism that's despicable that's what people want to escape from whether it's madison wisconsin from ohio to cairo people want to get out from the yoke of these crony ists these kleptocrats these banking occupying you know larsen mystic professional murderers. and going to go back to this woman's editorial rachel bronson from the council on foreign relations and we were these people are very integrated into how us foreign policy is conducted and why she also says don't worry about saudi arabia our oil

prices are going to stay fine gasoline prices will stay fine and the reason is that the saudi king's able to get thirty five billion dollars plus these are the positives. and she says he's co-opted the opposition the government has a monopoly on violence there indeed so the saudis are taking no chances and have arrested people trying to establish a new political party calling for greater democracy and protections for human rights so don't worry oil pricing as they find has he's arrested all the human rights activists he's got a monopoly on violence he's a mcdonald's of violence he's serving up make violent burgers every day he's the kentucky fried violet meister don't worry price of gas won't go higher he's a star violence but you see this conflict that what it means to be a puppet is you get to live well but it's always very short because you have children and they have children and then you get this massive bureaucracy in saudi arabia's five to seven thousand princes and princesses that need to maintain a princely lifestyle and it becomes more and more expensive and more intolerable

for your population to see that but part of being a puppet is you're not allowed to use any of the wealth for your own population so you end up being to capitated but if you try to even change it. and start giving a well to your population to share in the resources you get to capitated by another group you know the cia or air hit men economic hit men things like that decapitation or decapitation but never do hasty capitalization oh no that's the american specialty whether it's the americans prince class like timothy geithner or ben bernanke jamie diamond lloyd blankfein american princes who rain down upon the people with their love of a penny here at a nickel the oh thank you lloyd blankfein doing god's work. oh mr getting so you see this in these two headlines about colonel gadhafi who was a good buddy of tony blair they they went camping together in that little tents and

the camels many times and tony blair brought him back into the global community and watching the news here and talking to local people and reading the newspapers they target tony blair as the reason that this guy even had any power so first colonel qadhafi secretly moved four point eight billion of his own money to london last week so next headline libya colonel gadhafi must go now says pm amid mounting pressure on dictator so then the u.k. where who are all khadafi who thought he was buddies with these these cronies and these crooks and these autocrats and despots there he transferred all his money there and then they seize the assets so it's a hard time being a dictator issued by the wax museum in london and it could just stand there all day scaring people you know like looking like a wax figure and then who this kid over in his good buddy berlusconi you know this or donny blair the new wax museum. all right stay here with thanks so much for

being on the kaiser report thank you much i want to come back i'll be talking with anthony de this is an interview that i did a few days ago so stay right there will be right back. on. we'll. bring you the latest in science and technology from the realms are. we going to the future or covered. in a. welcome back to the kaiser report time now to go to cairo to talk with

two time pulitzer prize winning journalist anthony cidade he's a foreign correspondent for the new york times he divides time between baghdad and beirut but today he's in cairo anthony welcome to the kaiser report there it is my pleasure but it seems like all of these revolutions that are going on now across the region have changed the narrative from muslims or bad to arabs or good and now it seems like there's a total shift in the perception of the arab world as now they are in the forefront the cutting edge of democracy is this there's a tremendous pride in the hearts of people there now you know i don't think i would ever accept the notion that muslims are bad necessarily might be the perception elsewhere but i think you're exactly right that in the arab world right now there are the winds of change there is absolutely a fundamental rethink of what arab societies represent and it's breathtaking it's breathtaking in both its scope and also its speed we're talking about basically two months january and february in which to dictators or to say awkward tarion leaders have fallen when people have taken to the streets press demands that have gone an

answer for decades it was a very fundamental questions of societies the relationship between citizens to their leaders the relationship between religion and state the relationship between different opposition parties the ideological trends they represent are being rethought renegotiated in trying to be reestablished along a different formula this is breathtaking this is perhaps one of the most transformative moments in the arab world or at least in the modern history of the arab world now are just too you know what i'm referring to of course in the west in america for example the that what we're fed up. on the mainframe media is this narrative that there is no such thing is the arab world there are only muslims and they're bad that's what the west has been spoon fed this narrative that disk that is financed the military industrial complex financed the terror industry that the us supplies time you know financed the the tear gas canisters that people found in the streets and cairo now talk to me a little bit about the role that wiki leaks and social media played and the

revolution it seems clear that wiki leaks was the spark in tunisia and that's the spark that drove this entire revolution across the region yes or no i think you would you can't underestimate the influence of what some of those wiki leaks disclosures meant for people's awareness in tunisia but i want to be careful in overstating the impact of both wiki leaks the kind of social networking sites absolutely played a role in organizing and helping people together in spreading the word about the protest of the demands of these protests of mate but we're really seeing in tunisia but i think more spectacularly in egypt is the fruition of years of organizing that's gone on course it's being led by youthful protesters it's a generational change a demographic shift that we're seeing in the arab world we can't underestimate the forces the other forces are there in play in places like egypt we're seeing labor unions organize discreetly at first and now very powerful it's one of the that's one of the main dynamics going on these days women's groups islamist groups i mean we've seen a kind of a cross-section of society that has mobilized and has gone to the street that has

been successful pressing their demands sure whatever you have a dictator ruling over millions of people that are unhappy and have been great they think the revolt but until the existence of social media that was impossible now social media came on the scene and suddenly because of two factors not only did it enable the revolution but it also happened under the nose of the barack who i'm sure when i was told there's a facebook revolution going on two or three weeks ago wanted to ask a very interesting question what is facebook so they. a complete disconnect between you know a dictator better power for decades who probably has never you know have has not to work a day in his life suddenly confronted with what is facebook and in that gap if load the thread illusion i think that's overstating it to be honest i don't think you can save face because this revolution if there had been organizing going on here for ten years if there had been a labor mobilization starting five years ago if there hadn't been a coalition between islamist groups and secular groups in this country no revolution would ever happen to facebook in syria nothing's going to happen there

in a syria you've seen a societal transformation going on for years now and i think the forces that we're talking about they've been unleashed by this revolution are far greater than in social networking sites i'm not trying to minimize their role but we're seeing is a new moment in the arab world and it's a moment when one generation is taking the place of another generation i think that's what's driving the change from morocco to bahrain all right let's talk about continue on the threat of finances the the monopoly the financial monopoly that is a currently in place does the military relinquish that financial monopoly because according to one study i looked at actually egypt. over the past couple of decades actually been a pretty dynamically fast growing economy g.d.p. wise and so there is something going on there is the military going to step aside and lead a more free market take take take its place from the monopolization of the mill and the military and the washington consensus as it's referred to i think the reason

great point i think this is going to be one of the really interesting things going forward it may be counterintuitive as well what you've seen is there's a lot of clout let's be frank about it there's an incredible in a classroom sentiment in egypt today and the class resentment helped drive this revolution in a very clear fashion that cussed resentment is coming from these new liberal and the international monetary fund type reforms that have been ensued over the past decade in egypt it helped propel the just an economy forward but also dramatically increase the gap between rich and poor and at the same time created a class of what you might call crony capitalist people who are a group to. around president mubarak son the backlash against these people against the reforms that in some ways empowered them and these are very powerful current egypt today so what you can almost see is the military stepping in to turn back those reforms the motor of course it's going to preserve its place in the economy you know people say it represents maybe ten percent of the economy it's a kind of state controlled type of economy but you don't hear demands out there in the street today the military side relinquish its economic interest in student more

neoliberal reforms if the state of the economy if anything you hear the opposite you hear that the cup he was calling for more subsidies for better salaries for you know what would've could've been called i think back of the generation socialist type reforms in a way to cushion the circumstances that are people living in it so i think that's going to be one thing that's not you know it's almost counter counterintuitive or it's a counter narrative in some ways is that the states being asked to take care of the people more rather than less ok well then how would you contrast this happening in the region with what we've seen now in latin america because that's been kind of a shift from the nail liberal policies to a more socialist model is that what you're saying that that's the people are looking for the bad as a model that's right i think you're seeing a specialist worldwide we're seeing a very pronounced each of especially we can again i keep coming back to the split it's important with this demographic shift those demands those criticisms are becoming louder and louder because of this generation that we're dealing with right now the generation that was out in tahrir square is the one that some ways been hit the hardest all right so let's go into the future five years you've got revolutions and today is it aids ept of iran yemen libya iraq out very morocco the themes are

common to all these protests five years from today. what are we looking at is it going to be i guess what we're saying is the people and including the massive strikes that are coming from the workers who are looking more for what we've seen and in that latin american region is that conti did do you think that's where we're heading in five years or the have a good probability of that happening or without me you know a retro retrograde. back to the old ways i think that you're dealing with you know let me be superficial about of the maybe try to offer a little bit more you know we're insightful answer i think what you've seen here now is a is a reverse of the formula that has long held sway in the arab world and that is that rulers are beginning to be afraid of their people and that's a reversal you've had for decades here which people were afraid of their rulers i think that very almost a cliche in some ways but it's very powerful current that you feel not only egypt but elsewhere authority and the prestigious authority has crumbled and i think if

you take a step further we're really dealing with and it's as you're pointing out is a redo goshen of the social contract but again i don't overstate the economic dimensions to it is absolutely driven in part by economics for us troop efficiency but there is an incredible political awakening going on up there as well and that is i think where this contract is being renegotiated it is you know the idea of individual rights the idea of accountability of the government the idea of people having a say in who controls their lives these are issues that are almost intertwined seamlessly with these economic demands are seen as one in the same into corruption and accountability of the government individual rights people having a civilian who rules them all these things that are coming together in one very loud voice in a voice that i think in contrast to past years has consensus in the society be it if you're a liberal if you're a leftist if you're islamist these people pretty much have joined joined hands around around those demands while it's interesting to see the response in the western media you know you have the extreme right personified by let's say glenn back over there fox this who is on network television in america great casting to

millions and millions of people warning about the muslim caliphate that's going to take over the world and you know it's it's propaganda and at its worst so we know what's going on in the west there freaked out because they lost their lunch their free lunch with them a barrack who play recycling military dollars back to the defense contractors and abusing of people doing it so but what's the perception in the and the arab media i know al-jazeera english after many years being in the wilderness is this type of al-jazeera. remodelers our new model or is that is the media changing and forget social networking as they're on explosion of journalism and they've traditionally journalism you know and we just sort of the beginning of that i mean the idea of somehow restoring islamic caliphate it's just you know it's breathtakingly ignorant to claim that this is the dynamic of this revolution right now if anything we're seeing you know none of retrenchment but maybe a a waning i think of islamised leadership of oppositional singer currents emerging in these societies that are organic excrete their own language and the

representative that we really had in the arab world before i think that's what's so exciting to a lot of arabs today is that different voices are to killing their frustrations and their hopes and that's something that because governments american supported governments have not allowed for years and even decades i think if we go forward it's probably not quite fair to sales as it was in the world and it's always been the most popular arabic tell the satellite channel and it remained so i think if anything it's been able to ride this wave of revolutionary change in tunisia egypt and elsewhere it's been able again to articulate in some ways what these revolutions represent it is interesting also that point that you made that other people are starting to kind of change their tone you look at egypt where you had state controlled media state controlled television newspapers you know newspapers have gone to same supposedly fantastically that there were millions in the street supported mr mubarak so now calling it the revolution of the youth t.v. has done the same thing now t.v. which was just an instrument of the most vulgar propaganda is now basically interviewing protest leaders and talking about the aspirations of the revolution

it's again it goes back to we talked about a little earlier in the very foundations of these societies are being rethought reimagined and reconstructed and that i think is why these revolutions are as important as they are let me point out something i read today without a arabia somebody in that region assange of iran. the whole region and i striving to hook up with them fair clearly is the campaign and in the region they've got the closest relationship of the united states they've got the petro economy and they have the most to lose. in the region if you want to you know put israel aside for a second but they've got the most to live with. at sun are they ultimately is saudi arabia going to be swept up into this or is that where it kind of the revolution ends at the borders of saudi arabia let me put this person saying you know he's for the whole region goes why should the whole region go i mean just two years ago the same writers were saying that the very unhealthy most severe societies was the reason for the emergence of al qaida of bin ladin's and now we're seeing the

societies in some ways become healthier places people the response of their populations that understand the populations demands of the populations are demanding to take part in determining who rules them that's the revolution that is creating a healthier society and you know are we going to lose american allies in the process is israel going to get scared of the government that emerged perhaps but is that is that too high of a price to pay for healthy functioning societies that can offer more hope for the generations to come back on for it all right well that's all the time for we have today anthony shadid thanks so much for being on the kaiser report my pleasure it's on that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacey herbert and i want to thank my guest anthony shadid if you want to send me an e-mail please this at kaiser report at r.t. t.v. dot ru until next time this is that kind of thing bio. hungry for the full story we've gone to. the biggest issues get a human voice ceased to face with the news makers.

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from our studios in moscow you're watching r t thanks for joining us the libyan leader colonel gadhafi is promising more violence if u.s. or nato forces there to intervene well it's his latest salvo as he bids to cling to power meanwhile the u.n. is warning of a humanitarian crisis as thousands of libyans flee across the border to tunisia. has more on the situation in the region. at least one hundred eighty thousand people who have so far fled libya and some seventy five thousand of them arriving here in tunisia most of them off foreign labor as they are being housed at the border point intense where they receiving food and medical supplies aid workers who are on the scene are warning that this is reaching crisis point and we're hearing reports of crisis and chaos at these border points as gods struggle to keep the situation under control now the fighting is continuing throughout the.