teeth don't come. it's all cost now i hear a mosque a this is a key town and libya's oil rich east is reportedly once again targeted strikes there's growing speculation the u.s. on the u.k. could intervene in the country with the use of force. the u.n. is warning of a humanitarian crisis and why is it in libya seems at least a hundred eighteen thousand refugees across the border today is the most of them off our neighborhoods. and americans losing the information war for foreign media

like al-jazeera chinese c.c.t.v. and all that see the regions and voice their concerns she also congress for extra cash to promote if you wrestle. that stuff. about the smell of freedom in north africa or the middle east and someone seeking to tango down into a figure of. for the. we've got. the biggest issues get a human voice ceased to cease with the news makers. all right welcome to the kaiser report imax kaiser we're here in beirut lebanon to get a taste of freedom as it sweeps the region freedom fighters are everywhere all across north africa the middle east and even madison wisconsin it's a global insurrection against the banker occupation with its own tunes and songs

like. this new hit from. gadhafi herbert welcome back to the kaiser report well max first let's play a little clip from this viral hit remakes of moammar gadhafi he's brilliant speech to the nation there we go. that's a fantastic thing the globe the population the youth the arab youth the thing they love so much about gadhafi speech is that they for forty years i've known he's a totally bonkers insane dude but the west is prancing around the world stage at various i.m.f. and those sort of meeting the west gave him legitimacy so they love how embarrassing his speech was because it was mostly embarrassing for the likes of

tony blair and george bush is no longer in office but obama you know i mean where is tony blair is he in kind of square in london things think as well as why sure a i mean is he as insane as i they all insane as bush in saying is dick cheney as in saying they birds of a feather flock together i was i would imagine these guys are all logically and same. just to get off he seems to have a more extravagant wardrobe there is also a downside has emerged from libya which is the benghazi down oh the benghazi down fantastic this is more of a trance music apparently of the crowd is all waiting their hands and they've slowed it down really slow so everybody does the benghazi downs. it's freedom i can smell. but i bring up benghazi and i wanted to show you this little screen grab from the television where we're watching here and it was you know the crowds in benghazi and this sign in particular this placard really stood out for me no

autocracy no despotism no nepotism no cronyism and that is universal and that is what you are calling the global insurrection against banker occupation it's the same thing it's a desk but despite it's running our banking system or despots running the middle east oil you know those are for chief races all tied into one placard in the crowd these four key concepts are the push back against the corruption. within every fiber of this global occupation of bankers you know we have just as much in the west but there's very little resistance i mean one of the common phrase in britain used to be tony's cronies we have the cronyism we have all of the military industrial complex we have all of the friends of george bush we have all the friends of obama and we have that partisanship that allows it to happen in the middle east and the arab world they've been able to divide people by sectarianism

by whether they're sunni or shia they cause a split like this but in america it'll be like you know the red states get really angry and call in socialists and nazi and hitler and all this stuff for obama when he gives his buddies like rahm emanuel jobs but when george bush did it they don't care and the same vice versa right here in beirut people thought you know that soon . shia shia sunni in the states between red state blue state blue state red state and the powers that be like to push that but that conflict which is an artificial construct really just to get people fighting with each other and not giving them any kind of basic services yet and also to allow the looting by the autocrats and they're only allowed to operate in a situation where there's huge sectarianism where you divide it and this brings me to this past weekend we went to a protest here in beirut secular activist planned protest and bid to topple sectarian regime so demonstrators were out the street on sunday calling for the

toppling of the sectarian regime they were saying that the possibility of achieving change in a country where sectarian and partisan affiliations often defeat mass action so anytime there's a mass movement and mass anger gets quickly divided into sectarian groups that so change never comes because you pick off the opposition quickly through sectarianism right or sectarian regime so the leaders they create a bit of a cage fight where they put these competing factions into the ring and they just have a battle it out and they're charging tickets to the to watch the spectacle you know they're basically entertainment promoters and the other thing i've heard quite a lot by young beirut is this concern for the arab revolutions in that they believe they had a genuine one here a few years ago until it became the cedar revolution i you know with the logo and

branding by the u.s. state department they came in and turned it into a sectarian bag right they came in and branded it in such a way as to create their interests and to ignore the interest on the ground here but those who are trying to escape this artificial conflict and construct but the u.s. of course is very concerned about only the oil price and you can see that in the the cartoon. here they depict cartoons of a giant big uncle sam america only concerned about the price of oil rising rising rising and behind them their dead libyan freedom fighters and they don't care about the dead people they don't care about the torture going on because of course the cronyism in the west they have their oil deals that tony blair signed with b.p. and exxon right well being here in beirut lebanon watching global media and watching c.n.n. b.c. it's amazing because they look at the price of gas and then on one chart and then they have a dead people racking up in various regions in another chart and they're trying to

figure out how many dead people it takes to keep the price of gas down a penny and this is how they see the world it's all about dead people versus the price of gas how many dead people per penny and of course if they needed kill more people to keep the price of gas down another penny then they're all for it so they have these you know cheerleaders on c. and b. c. these overly quater only make a woman kind of bouncing around saying yeah they kill people as long as gas prices are down another penny and people think this is the cage fight of america is that they've created a global cage try to keep that but going forward stacey the fact is that price of gas is going to continue to go higher for a lot of different reasons so barack is going to get into some other business other than the exportation of mayhem and murder i would imagine well let's look at this next headline because america as i said is very concerned about what the price of gasoline will be so could the next mideast uprising happen in saudi arabia so this is from editorial written in the washington post by rachel bronson

a senior fellow and director of middle east and gulf studies for the council on foreign relations so this is the grotesqueness comparing what how the u.s. policymakers think how tony blair and george bush and obama and hillary clinton how they sort of people think and how it plays on the streets here is just. shocking the united states has a great deal at stake in saudi arabia though americans often look at saudis or distaste as one senior saudi government official once asked me what does the united states share with a country where women can't drive the qur'an is the constitution and beheadings are commonplace she tries to answer that's a tough question but the answer quite simply is geopolitics and that you know we like saudis u.s. educated liberal elites cronyism so we have a few cronies there so why do we care if they suppress and repress the entire population as long as they give us their cheap oil as she mentions here she says

they're generally committed to reasonable oil prices yeah i mean this whole idea you heard from tony blair during the iraq war invasion there's no such thing as blood for oil and this is really a joke and it's obviously blood for oil it's tony blair is guilty of this george bush the current administration barack obama of course by his reluctance to get involved in these freedom fighting movements early on and bill is going to have a very standoffish attitude about it that's blood for oil that's a guy who is supporting. death in exchange for cheaper gas per his handlers per the mandates coming down from above that's cronyism that's despicable that's what people want to escape from whether it's madison wisconsin from ohio to cairo people want to get out from the yoke of these crony ists these kleptocrats these banking occupying you know larsen istic professional murderers. and

going to go back to this woman's editorial rachel bronson from the council on foreign relations i mean these people are very integrated into how u.s. foreign policy is conducted and why she also says don't worry about saudi arabia our oil prices are going to stay fine gasoline prices will stay fine and the reason is that the saudi king's able to get thirty five billion dollars plus these are the positives. and she says he's co-opted the opposition the government has a monopoly on violence there indeed so the saudis are taking no chances and have arrested people trying to establish a new political party calling for greater democracy and protections for human rights so don't worry oil prices as they find he's arrested all those human rights activists he's got a monopoly on violence he's the donalds of violence he's serving up violent burgers every day he's the kentucky fried violent meister don't worry price of gas will go higher he's a star violence but you see this conflict that what it means to be a puppet is you get to live well but it's always very short because you have

children and they have children and you get this massive saudi arabia's five seven thousand princes and princesses that need to maintain a princely lifestyle and it becomes more and more expensive and more intolerable for your population to see that but part of being a puppet is you're not allowed to use any of the wealth for your own population so you end up being to capitated but if you try to even change it. and start give a well to your population to share in the resources you get to capitated by another group you know the cia or hit men economic hit men things like that if you care to decapitation but never do thanks to capitalization oh no that's the american specialty whether it's the americans prince class like timothy geithner or ben bernanke jamie diamond lloyd blankfein american princes who rain down upon the people with their love of a penny here to nickel their own thank you lloyd blankfein doing god's work. oh mr

deity and so you see this in these two headlines about colonel gadhafi who was a good buddy of tony blair they they went camping together in that little tents and the camels many times and tony blair brought him back into the global community and watching the news here and talking to local people and reading the newspapers they target tony blair as the reason that this guy even had any power so first colonel qadhafi secretly moved four point eight billion of his own money to london last week so next headline libya colonel gadhafi must go now says pm amid mounting pressure on dictator so then the u.k. where poor old kadafi who thought he was buddies with these these cronies and these crooks and these autocrats and despots there he transferred all his money there and then they seize the assets so it's a hard time being a dictator you should buy the wax museum in london and you could just stand there all day scaring people you know like looking like

a wax figure and they blew this kid off and his good buddy berlusconi you know tony blair the new wax museum. all right stacie over thanks so much for being only because the report thank you and i want to come back i'll be talking with anthony shadid deed this is an interview that i did a few days ago so stay right there will be right back. thank you.

i'm going to. welcome back to the kaiser report time now to go to cairo that time with two time pulitzer prize winning journalist anthony cidade he's a foreign correspondent for the new york times he divide the time between baghdad and beirut but today he's in cairo anthony welcome to the kaiser report but it is my pleasure things like all of these revolutions but are going on now across the region have changed the narrative from muslims or bad to arabs or good and now it seems like there's a total shift in the perception of the arab world as now they're on the forefront the cutting edge of democracy is this there's a tremendous pride in the in the in the hearts of people there now you know i don't think it would ever at the notion that muslims are bad necessarily might be the perception elsewhere but i think you're exactly right that in the arab world right

now there are the winds of change there is absolutely a fundamental we think of what arab societies represent and it's breathtaking it's breathtaking in both its scope and also its speed we're talking about basically two months january and february in which to dictators or to say awkward tarion leaders have fallen when people have taken to the streets pressed a man's that have gone and answered for decades it was a very fundamental questions of societies the relationship between citizens to their leaders the relationship between religion and state the relationship between different opposition parties the ideological difference they represent are being rethought renegotiated in trying to be reestablished along a different formula this is breathtaking this is one of the most transformative moments in the arab world or at least in the modern history of the are all now logic. to a fill in what i'm referring to of course in the west in america for example the fed on the mainstream media is this narrative that there is no such thing is the arab world there are only muslims and they're bad that's what the west has been

spoon fed this narrative that us that is finance the military industrial complex financed the terror industry that the us supplies taino finance the the tear gas canisters that people found in the streets and cairo now talk to me a little bit about the role that wiki leaks and social media played and the revolution it seems clear that wiki leaks was the spark and tunisia and that's the spark that drove this entire revolution across the region yes or no i think you would you can't underestimate the influence of what some of those wiki leaks disclosures meant for people's awareness in tunisia but i want to agree to be careful and overstating the impact of both wiki leaks and kind of social networking sites absolutely to play a role in organizing and helping people together and spreading the word about the protests of the demands of these protests that mate but we're really seeing in tunisia but i think more spectacularly in egypt is the fruition of years of organizing that's gone on course it's being led by youthful protesters it's a generational change a demographic shift that were seen here all we can't underestimate the forces the

other forces are there in play in places like egypt we're seeing labor unions organize discreetly a person now very powerful it's one of the it's one of the main dynamics going on these days women's groups islamised groups and we've seen a kind of a cross-section of society that has mobilized that has gone to the sri it has been successful pressing their demands sure whatever you have a dictator ruling over millions of people there are happy and would be great they think three vult but until the existence of social media that was impossible now thought the media came on the scene and suddenly because of two factors not only did it enable the revolution but it also happened under the nose of the barack who i'm sure when was told. there's a facebook revolution going on there were three weeks ago one it's ask a very interesting question what is facebook so the complete disconnect between you know it takes eight or better power for decades to probably never you know have has not to work

a day in his life suddenly confronted with what is facebook and in that gap if load this revolution i think that's overstating it to be honest i don't think you can say base because this revolution if there had been organizing going on here for ten years if there had been a labor mobilization starting five years ago if there hadn't been a coalition between islamist groups and secular groups in this country they were delusional whatever happened to facebook and syria nothing's going to happen there in history and you see the societal transformation or not for years now and i think the forces that we're talking about that unleashed by this revolution are far greater than the social networking sites are not trying to minimize their role but we're seeing is a new moment in the arab world and it's a moment when one generation is taking the place of another generation i think that's what's driving the change from morocco to bahrain all right let's talk about but continue on the threat of finances the the monopoly the financial monopoly that is a currently in place does the military relinquish that financial monopoly because according to one thirty i looked at actually egypt. over the past couple of decades is

actually been a pretty dynamically fast growing economy he d.p. wise and so there is something going on there is the military going to step aside and let a more free market take take take its place from the monopolization of the mill and the military and the washington consensus as it's referred to i think the reason great point because this could be one of the really interesting things going forward is going to be counterintuitive as well what you've seen there is a lot of let's be frank about it there's an incredible in a classroom sentiment in egypt today and the quest resentment helped drive this revolution a very clear fashion because resentment is coming from these new liberal and the international monetary fund type reforms that have been instituted over the past decade in egypt it helped repel the economy forward but also. radically increase the gap between rich and poor and at the same time create a class of what you might call crony capitalists people who are grouped around president products sun the backlash against these people against the reforms that in some ways empowered them and these are very powerful current egypt today so what

you can almost see is a military stepping in to turn back those reforms the motor course is going to preserve its place in the economy you know people say it represents maybe ten percent of the economy it's that kind of state controlled type of economy but you don't hear demands out there in the street today and the military to step aside relinquish its economic interest is to more neoliberal forms it's a state of the economy if anything you hear the opposite you hear that cookie was calling for more subsidies for better salaries for you know what could have been called it back another generation socialist type reforms in a way to cushion the circumstances that are people living in so i think that's good we want think it's not you know it's almost counter counterintuitive or it's a counter narrative in some ways is that the states being asked to take care of the people more rather than less ok well then how would you contrast the fabric of the region with what we've seen now in latin america because that's been kind of a shift from the nail liberal policies to a more socialist model is that what you're saying that that's the people are looking for a bad as a model that's right i think you're seeing a specialist worldwide we're seeing

a very pronounced each of especially we can't again i keep coming back to split it's important with this demographic shift those demands those criticisms are becoming louder and louder because in this generation that we're dealing with right now the generation that was out in tahrir square is the one in some ways big hit the hardest all right so let's go into the theater five years you've got revolutions in tunisia and egypt and iran yemen libya iraq are very america the themes are common to all these protests five years from today. what are we looking at is it going to be i guess what we're saying is the people and including the math of strikes that are coming from the workers who are looking more for what we've seen and in that last american region so is that kind of it do you think the. that's where we're heading in five years of there's not a good probability of that happening or without any you know a retro retrograde move back to the old way i think that you're dealing with you know let me be superficial about it it may be traded off a little bit more you know we're inside finance or i think what you've seen here

now is a is a reverse of the formula that has long held sway in the arab world and that is that rulers are beginning to be afraid of their people and that's a repressive where you have for decades here was people were afraid of their rulers i think they're very i was a cliche in some ways but it's very powerful current that you feel not only egypt and elsewhere authority and the prestige of authority has crumbled and if you take a step further who we're really dealing with and it's as you're pointing out is a ridiculous edition of the social contract but we're going to want to overstate the economic dimensions to it is absolutely driven in part of economic risk through actions but there is an incredible political awakening one out there as well and that is that where this contract is be renegotiated it is you know idea of individual rights the idea of accountability of the government the idea of people having a say in who controls their lives these are issues that are almost intertwined seamlessly with these economic demands are seen as one in the same and into corruption and accountability of the government individual rights people who gets to pay and who rules them all these are coming together and one very loud voice and a voice that i think in contrast to past years has consensus in

a society be it if you're a liberal if you're a leftist if you're islamised these are pitted people pretty much have joined joined hands of ground around those demands well it's interesting to see the response in the western media you know you have the extreme right personified by let's say glenn back over there fox this who is on network television in america prague casting to millions and millions of people warning about the muslim caliphate that's going to take over the world and you know it's it's propaganda of at its worst so we know what's going on in the west there freaked out because they lost their lunch their free lunch with them oh barack who think lee recycling military dollars back to the defense contractors and abusing of people doing it so go. what's the perception in the and the arab media i know out of there in the us after many years being in the wilderness is this type about that there modelers are new model or is that is the media changing and forget also networking as there are an explosion of journalism of the correctional journalism you know just sort of the

beginning of that i mean the idea of somehow restoring islamic caliphate it's just you know it's breathtakingly ignorant to claim that this is the dynamic of this revolution right now if you can we're seeing you know none of the transfer been maybe eight a waning i think of islamised leadership of opposition senior currents emerging the societies that are organic script their own language that the representative we really had in the arab world will for i think that's what's so exciting to a lot of arabs today is that different voices are executing their frustrations and their hopes and that's something that because governments american supported governments have not allowed for years and even decades i think if we go forward it's it's probably not quite fair to sail to syria was in the world and it's always been the most popular arabic satellite channel and it remained so i think if anything it's been able to ride this wave of revolutionary change in tunisia egypt and elsewhere it's been able again to articulate in some ways what he's revolutions represent it is interesting also that point that you made that other people are starting to kind of change their tone you look at egypt where you had state controlled media state controlled television newspapers you know newspapers have

gone to same supposedly fantastically that there were millions in the streets and one of mr mubarak now calling it the revolution of the youth t.v. is not the same thing now t.v. which was just an instrument of those older propaganda is now basically interviewing protest leaders and talking about the aspirations of the revolution it's again because back to we talked about a little earlier in the very become day sions of these societies are being rethought reimagined and reconstructed and that i think is why these revolutions are as important as they are the major threat point out something i read today without a arabia the me in that region with saying of iran the whole region and a frying to cook up from fair as i read it clearly is the campaign in a. in the region they've got the closest relationship of the united states they've got the petro economy and they have the most to lose in the region if you want to you know put israel's eye for a second but they've got the most to lose. at sun are they ultimately is saudi

arabia going to be swept up into this or is that where kind of the revolution ends at the borders of saudi arabia you put this person saying you know he's very little reason goes why should the whole region go i mean just two years ago the same writers were saying that the very unhealthy disappear of societies was the reason for the emergence of al qaida of bin ladin's and now we're seeing societies and so will you come help your places people who are responsive their populations interest in the populations demands of the populations are demanded are to determine who rules that that's the revolution that is creating a healthier society and you know are we going to lose american allies in the process is israel going to get scared of a government that emerged perhaps but is that is that too high of a price to pay for healthy functioning societies that can offer more hope and generations to come back on for it all right well that's all the time for we have today anthony shadid thanks so much for being on the kaiser report my pleasure is on that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy herbert and i want to thank my guest anthony shadid if you want to send

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