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market why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy was much stronger there are no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cars report. this is see friends of five fights break out across libya other countries spirals toward civil war income goods and relatives out there is having to regain control of the world which alley is in the midst of. as international calls to end the violence grow as fresh concerns over the mounting possibility of western the tree intervention. runs hillary clinton says the u.s. is placing in losing an information war with global media outlets including.
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girl in knots keyser talks about the spread of freedom in north africa and the middle east and how song the seeking to sound down to a figure of thought. great for the. we've got. the biggest issues get the cuban voice face to face with the news makers. all right welcome to the kaiser report imax kaiser we're here in beirut lebanon to
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get a taste of freedom as it sweeps the region freedom fighters are everywhere all across north africa the middle east and even madison wisconsin it's a global insurrection against the banker occupation with its own tunes and songs like. this new hit from. gadhafi stacy herman welcome back to the kaiser report well max first let's play a little clip from this viral hit remakes of moammar gadhafi he's brilliant speech to the nation here we go. that's a fantastic sweeping the globe the population the youth the arab youth the thing they love so much about gadhafi speech is that they for forty years have known he's
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a totally bonkers insane dude but the west is prancing around the world stage of various i.m.f. and those sort of meetings the west gave him legitimacy so they love how embarrassing his speech was because it was mostly embarrassing for the likes of tony blair and george bush who's no longer in office but obama now well i mean where is tony blair is the kind of square london things that go. why sure ray i mean if he is insane as gadhafi they all insane is bush insane is dick cheney as of the same day birds of a feather flock together i was i would imagine these guys are all pathologically and same just a bit off they seem to have a more extravagant wardrobe is also down so has emerged from libya which is the benghazi down oh the benghazi down fantastic this is more of a trance music apparently of the crowd is all waving their hands and they've slowed it down really slow so everybody does the big. stick it's freedom i can smell.
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but i bring up benghazi and i wanted to show you this little screen grab i took from the television where we're watching here and it was you know the crowds in benghazi and this sign in particular this placard really stood out for me no autocracy no despotism no nepotism no cronyism and that is universal and that is what you are calling the global insurrection against banker occupation it's the same thing it's. running our banking system or despots running the middle east oil you know those are four key phrases all tied into one placard in the crowd these four key concepts are the push back against the corruption that's within every fiber of the global occupation of corrupt bankers you know we have just as much in the west but there's very little resistance and one a common phrase in britain used to be tony's cronies we have the cronyism we have
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all of the military industrial complex we have all of the friends of george bush we have all the friends of obama and we have that partisanship that allows it to happen in the middle east and the arab world they've been able to divide people by sectarianism by whether they're sunni or shia they cause a split like this but in america it'll be like you know the red states get really angry and call and socialists and nazi and hitler and all this stuff. paula when he gives his buddies like rahm emanuel jobs but when george bush did it they don't care and the same vice versa right here in beirut people talk you know that sunni shia shia sunni and then the states between red state blue state blue state red state and the powers that be like to push that that that conflict which is an artificial construct really just to get people fighting with each other and not giving them any kind of basic services and also to allow the looting by the autocrats and they're only allowed to operate in
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a situation where those who sectarianism wherever you divide it and this brings me to this past weekend we went to a protest here in beirut secular activists planned protest and bid to topple sectarian regime so demonstrators were out the street on sunday calling for the toppling of the sectarian regime they were saying that the possibility of achieving change in a country where sectarian and partisan affiliations often defeat mass action so anytime there's a mass movements and mass anger gets quickly if i did into sectarian groups that so change never comes because you pick off the opposition quickly through sectarianism right or sectarian regime so the leaders they create a bit of a cage fight where they put these competing factions into the ring and they just have a battle it out and they're charging tickets to the to watch the spectacle you know they're basically entertainment promoters and the other thing i've heard quite
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a lot by young beirut is this concern for the arab revolutions in that they believe they had a genuine one here a few years ago until it became the cedar revolution i you know with the logo and branding by the u.s. state department they came in and turned it into a sectarian bag right they came in and then branded it in such a way to create their own show. nor the interest on the ground here but those who are trying to escape this artificial conflict and construct but the u.s. of course is very concerned about only the oil price and you can see that in the the cartoons here they depicts cartoons of a giant big uncle sam america only concerned about the price of oil rising rising rising and behind them their dead libyan freedom fighters and they don't care about the dead people they don't care about. torture going on because of course the cronyism in the west they have their oil deals that tony blair signed with b.p.
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and exxon right well being here in beirut lebanon watching global media and watching c.n.n. be see it's amazing because they look at the price of gas and then on one chart and then they have a dead people racking up in various regions in another chart and they're trying to figure out how many dead people it takes to keep the price of gas down a penny and this is now they see the world it's all about dead people versus the price of gas how many dead people per penny and of course if they needed kill more people to keep the price of gas down another penny then they're all for it so that they have these you know cheerleaders on c. and b. c. these over the cloth only make one in kind of found sitting around saying yeah they kill people as long as gas prices are down another penny and people think this is the cage fight of america is that they've created a global cage try to keep that but going forward stacey the fact is that price of gas is going to continue to go higher for a lot of different reasons so mark is going to get into some other business other than the exportation of mayhem and murder i would imagine well let's look at this
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next headline because america as i said is very concerned about what the price of gasoline will be so could a next mideast uprising happen in saudi arabia so this is from better tauriel written in the washington post by rachel bronson a senior fellow and director of middle east and gulf studies for the council on foreign relations so this is the grotesqueness comparing what how the u.s. policymakers think how tony blair and george bush and obama and hillary clinton how these sort of people think and how it plays on the streets here is just. shocking the united states has a great deal at stake in saudi arabia though americans often look at saudis were distaste as one senior saudi government official once asked me what does the united states share with a country where women can't drive the qur'an is the constitution and beheadings are commonplace she tries to answer that's a tough question but the answer quite simply is geopolitics and that we know and
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like saudis u.s. educated liberal elites cronyism so we have a few cronies there so why do we care if they suppress and repress the entire population as long as they give us their cheap oil as she mentions here she says they're generally committed to reasonable oil prices yeah i mean the so idea here from tony blair during the iraq war invasion there's no such thing as blood for oil and this is really a joke and it's obviously blood for oil it's tony blair is guilty of this george bush the current administration barack obama of course by his reluctance to get involved in these freedom fighting movements early on and bill is going to have a very standoffish attitude about it that's blood for oil that's a guy who is supporting. death in exchange for cheaper gas per his handlers per the mandates coming down from above that's cronyism that's despicable that's what people want to escape from whether it's madison wisconsin from ohio to cairo people
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want to get out from the yoke of these crony este these kleptocrats these banking occupying you know larcenous to professional murderers. and to go back to this woman's editorial rachel bronson from the council on foreign relations and we were these people are very integrated into how u.s. foreign policy is conducted and why she also says don't worry about saudi arabia our oil prices are going to stay fine gasoline prices will stay fine and the reason is that the saudi king's able to get thirty five billion dollars plus these are the positives. and she says he's co-opted the opposition government has a monopoly on violence there indeed so the saudis are taking no chances and have arrested people trying to establish a new political party calling for greater democracy and protections for human rights so don't worry oil pricing as they find has he's arrested all the human rights activists he's got a monopoly on violence he's a mcdonald's of violence he's serving up make violent burgers every day he's the
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kentucky fried violent meister the worried price of gas will go higher he's a star violence but you see this conflict that what it means to be a puppet is you it's a live well but it's always very short because you have children and they have children and you get this mass your office in saudi arabia it's five seven thousand princes and princesses that need to maintain a princely lifestyle and it becomes more and more expensive and more intolerable for your population to see that but part of being a puppet is you're not allowed to use any of the wealth for your own population so you end up being to capitated but if you try to even change it. and started a while to your population to share in the resources you get to capitated by another group you know the cia or air hit men economic hit men things like that if you capitation or decapitation but never do thanks to capitalisation oh no that's
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the american specialty whether it's the americans prince class like timothy geithner or ben bernanke jamie diamond lloyd blankfein american princes who rain down upon the people with their love of a penny here to nickel the oh thank you lloyd blankfein doing god's work. oh mr deity and so you see this and these two headlines about colonel gadhafi who was a good buddy of tony blair they they went camping together in that little tents and the camels many times and tony blair brought him back into the global community and watching the news here and talking to local people and reading the newspapers they target tony blair as the reason that this guy even had any power so first colonel qadhafi secretly moved four point eight billion of his own money to london last week so next headline libya colonel gadhafi must go now says pm amid mounting pressure on dictator so then the u.k. where who are all thought he was buddies with these these cronies and these crooks
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and these autocrats and despots there you transferred all this money there and then they seize the assets so it's a hard time being a dictator issued by the wax museum in london and you could just stand there all day scaring people you know like looking like a wax figure and then who could all be behaving as good buddy berlusconi you know those are going to blair the new wax museum. all right stays there were thank so much for being on the kaiser report thank you much but i want to come back i'll be talking with anthony shadid deed this is an interview that i did a few days ago so stay right there will be right back. for the. we've got. the biggest issues get the human voice ceased to face with the news makers.
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it will. remain you delete a certain something instancing. from the realms. of the future covered. welcome back to the kaiser report time now to go to cairo to talk with two time pulitzer prize winning journalist anthony deed he's a foreign correspondent for the new york times he divide the time between baghdad and beirut i thought hey i think anthony was one of the guys report but it is my pleasure things like all of these revolutions but i'm going on now across the region have changed the narrative from muslims are bad to arabs or good and now it seems like there's a total shift in the perception of the arab world as now they're on the forefront the cutting edge of democracy is this there's
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a tremendous pride in the in the hearts of people there now you know i don't think it would ever record the notion of muslims or badness sherrilyn might be the perception elsewhere but i think you're exactly right that in the arab world right now there are the winds of change there's absolutely a fundamental we think of what arab societies represent and it's breathtaking it's breathtaking in both its scope and also its speed we're talking about basically two months january and february in which two dictators or let's say awkward syrian leaders of stalin when people have taken to the streets press demanded a common answer for decades it was a very fundamental questions of societies the relationship between citizens to their leaders relationship between religion and state the relationship between different opposition parties the ideological trends they represent are being rethought renegotiated in trying to be reestablished along a different formula this is great taking this is one of the most transformative moments in the arab world or at least in the modern history of the arab world. just to up you know philip what i'm referring to of course in the west in america for example the what we're fed on the main thing media is this narrative that there is
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no such thing is the arab world there are only muslims and there are bad that's what the west has been spoon fed this narrative that disk that is financed the military industrial complex financed the terror industry that the u.s. supply stock you know financed the the tear gas canisters that people found in the streets and cairo now talk to me a little bit about the role that wiki leaks and social media played in the revolution it seems clear that wiki leaks was the spark in tunisia and that's the spark that throw this entire revolution across the region yes or no i think you would you can't underestimate the influence of what some of those wiki leaks disclosures meant for people to where innocent tunisia but i want to be careful overstating the impact of both wiki leaks and kind of social networking sites absolutely played a role in organizing and help bring people together and spreading the word about the protest of the demands of these protests that mate but we're really seeing in tunisia but i think most spectacularly in egypt is the fruition of years of
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organizing that's gone on course it's being led by youthful protesters it's a generational change a demographic shift that we're seeing in the arab world we can't underestimate the forces the other forces are there in play in places like egypt we're seeing labor unions organize discreetly a person now very powerful it's one of the it's one of the main dynamics going on these days women's groups islamised groups and we see the kind of a cross-section of society that has mobilized that is going to the street which has been successful pressing their demands sure whenever you have a dictator ruling over millions of people they're not happy and would be great they think three vult but until the existence of social media that wasn't possible now social media came on the scene and suddenly because of two factors not only did it enable the revolution but it also happened under the nose of the barrick who i'm sure won with. well there's a facebook revolution going on two or three weeks ago want to ask a very interesting question what is facebook so the complete disconnect between you
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know a dictator better power for decades who probably has never you know have a has not a work a day in his life suddenly confronted with what is facebook and in that gap if load the thread illusion i think that's overstating it to be honest i don't think you can save face because this revolution if there had been organizing going on your ten years if there hadn't been a labor mobilization starting five years ago if there hadn't been a collision between islamist groups and secular groups in this country no evolution would ever happen and you have facebook and syria nothing's going to happen there in a syria you see the societal transformation went on for years now and i think the forces that we're talking about have been unleashed by this revolution are far greater than in social networking sites i'm not trying to minimize their role but we're seeing is a new moment in the arab world and it's a moment when one generation is taking the place of another generation i think that's what's driving the change from morocco to bahrain all right let's talk about continue on the threat of finances the the monopoly the financial monopoly that is
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a currently in place does the military relinquish that financial monopoly because according to one study i looked at actually egypt. over the past couple of decades actually been a pretty dynamically fast growing economy t.t.p. wise and so there is something going on there is the military going to step aside and lead a more free market take take take its place from the monopolization of the mill and the military and the washington consensus as it's referred to i think the reason great point because this could be one of the really interesting things going forward we're going to be counterintuitive as well what you've seen is there's a lot of let's be frank about it there's an incredible not a classroom sentiment in egypt today in that class resentment helped write this revolution a very clear fashion because resentment is coming from these new liberal and other international monetary fund type reforms that have been instituted over the past decade in egypt it helped repel the just an economy forward to. also dramatically increased the gap between rich and poor and at the same time created a class of what you might call crony capitalist people who are grouped around
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president mubarak son the backlash against these people against the reforms in some ways empowered them and these are very powerful current egypt today so you can almost see is the military stepping in to turn back those reforms and those are of course it's going to preserve its place in the economy you know people say it represents maybe ten percent of the economy it's a kind of state controlled type of economy but you don't hear demands out there in the street today and the military is stepping side relinquish its economic interest is to more neoliberal forms if the state of the economy if anything you hear the opposite we hear that cookie was calling for more subsidies for better salaries for you know what could have been called in the back of the generation socialist type reforms in a way to cushion the circumstances that are people living in it so i think that's the one thing that's not you know it's almost counter counterintuitive or it's a counter narrative in some ways is that the states being asked to take care of the people more rather than less ok well then how would you contrast that factoring in the region with what we've seen now latin america because that's been kind of
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a shift from the neoliberal policies to a more thoughtful as model is that what you're saying that that's the people are looking for a bad as a model that's right i think you're seeing a specialist worldwide we're seeing a very pronounced egypt especially with cancer again if you coming back to split it it's important with this demographic shift those demands those criticisms are becoming louder and louder because in this generation that we're dealing with right now the generation that was out in tahrir square is the one that some ways been hit the hardest all right so let's go into the theater five years you've got revolutions in tunisia egypt. yemen libya iraq out very america the themes are common to all these protests five years from today. what are we looking at is it going to be i guess what we're saying is the people and including the math of strikes that are coming from the workers who are looking more for what we've seen and that allowed american region is that kind of did you. think that's where we're heading in five years or the have a good probability of that happening or will be you know
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a retro retrograde move back to the old way i think that you're dealing with you know let me be superficial about it maybe trade off a little bit more you know once i finance or i think what you've seen here now is it is a real person the formula that is long held sway in the arab world and that is that rulers are beginning to be afraid of their people and that's a report of what you have for decades here was it were free to their rulers i think that very i was a cliché in some ways but it's very powerful currently feel not only egypt elsewhere authority and the prestige of authority has crumbled and i think if you take a step further what we're really dealing with and it's as you're pointing out is a reader go shushan of the social contract but we cannot overstate the economic dimension sue it is absolutely driven in part of the economic first editions and there is an incredible political awakening to women out there as well and that is that where this contract is being renegotiated it is you know idea of individual rights the idea of accountability of the government the idea of people having a say in who controls their lives these are issues that are almost intertwined seamlessly with these economic demands are seen as one in the same and into
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corruption and accountability of the government individual rights people who just say and who rules them at least they're coming together in one very loud voice in a voice that i think in contrast to past years has consensus in a society be it if you're a liberal if you're a leftist if you're islamised he's pretty people pretty much and joined joined hands and ground around those demands well it's interesting to see the response in the western media you know you have the extreme right personified by let's take land back over there fox this who is on network television in america grow up casting to millions and millions of people warning about the muslim caliphate that's going to take over the world and you know it's it's propaganda of at its worst so we know what's going on in the west there freaked out because they lost their lunch their free lunch with them a barrack who thoroughly recycling military dollars back to the defense contractors and abusing of people during it. so what was the profession in there and the arab media i know out of there in the us after many years being in the wilderness is
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this type of al-jazeera modelers our new model or is that is the media changing it and forget social networking is there an explosion of journalism of the kurdish north journalism you know we just heard of the beginning of that i mean the idea of somehow restoring islamic caliphate it's just you know it's breathtakingly ignorant to claim that this is the dynamic of this revolution right now anything we're seeing now you know not of a transfer but maybe eight the waning i think of his lama's leadership of opposition senior currents emerging the societies that are organic that speak their own language that the representative can we really had in the arab world before i think that's what's so exciting to a lot of arabs today is that the different voices are to kill your frustrations and their hopes and that's something that because governments american supported governments have not allowed for years and even decades i think if we go forward it's it's probably not quite there disabled as it was in the world and it's always been the most popular arabic tele satellite channel and it remained so i think if anything it's been able to ride this wave of revolutionary change in tunisia egypt and elsewhere and it's been able again to articulate in some ways what these
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revolutions represent it is interesting also that point that you made that other people are starting to kind of change their tone you look at egypt where you had state controlled media state controlled television newspapers you know newspapers have gone to same supposedly fantastically that there were millions in the streets or in mr mubarak to now calling it the revolution of the youth t.v. has done the same thing now t.v. which was just an instrument of those older propaganda is now basically interviewing protest leaders and talking about the aspirations of the revolution it's again because back to we talked about a little earlier and the very foundations of these societies are being rethought we imagine to reconstruct it and that i think is why these revolutions are as important as they are let me point out something i read today without a arabia somebody in that region with saying left iran the whole region and they trying to cook up some fear clearly as they came. bannana in the region they've got a close relationship with united states they've got the petro economy and they have
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the most to lose in the region if you want to you know put israel aside for a second but they've got the most to lose. at sun are they hell to malaya saudi arabia going to be swept up into this or is that where kind of the revolution and the borders of saudi arabia let me put this person saying you know he's for the whole region goes why should the whole region go i mean just two years ago the same writers were saying that the very unhealthy to severe societies was the reason for the emergence of al qaida bin ladin's and now we're seeing societies in some risk become healthier places to be the response of their populations interest in the populations demands of the population to manage their part in determining who rules them that's the revolution that is creating a healthier society and you are we going to lose american allies in the process is israel going to get scared of a government that emerged perhaps but is that is that too high a price to pay for healthy functioning societies that can offer more hope for generations to come back on port all right well that's all the time for we have today anthony shadid thanks so much for being on the kaiser report my pleasure it's
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