sigyn flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. operations rule the day. before several from central moscow this is the r t news channel thanks for being with us tonight we bring update on the top stories fresh fire fights break out across libya as the country spirals towards civil war in congo one of the duffys attempting to regain control of key oil rich areas in the east so far over two thousand people have pointed been killed during more than a fortnight of fighting. and his international calls to end the violence grow louder this fresh concern too over the months of possibility of u.s. intervention washington's gathering naval and marine forces near the libyan border

. hillary clinton says the u.s. is fighting and losing an information war with global media outlets including r t the us state department wants billions of dollars from congress now to step up its propaganda efforts against the digital onslaught. twenty three thirty one here in moscow next our financial guru most kaiser talks about the smell of freedom in north africa or the middle east and i was so in the seeking to turn it down thing into a figure of fun. all right welcome to the kaiser report imax guys and we're here in beirut lebanon to get a taste of freedom as it sweeps the region freedom fighters are everywhere all across north africa the middle east and even madison wisconsin it's

a global insurrection against the banker occupation with its own tunes and songs like. this new hit from. gadhafi stacy herbert welcome back to the kaiser report well max first let's play a little clip from this viral hit remakes of moammar gadhafi he's brilliant speech to the nation there we go. that's a fantastic hit sweeping the globe the population the youth the arab youth the thing they love so much about gadhafi speech is that they for forty years i don't know when he's a totally bonkers insane dude but the west is prancing around the world stage at various i.m.f. and those sort of meetings the west gave him legitimacy so they love how embarrassing his speech was because it was mostly embarrassing for the likes of

tony blair and george bush is no longer in office but obama no i mean where is tony blair is he in kind of square in london settings and goes into what is why sure a i mean is he as insane as gadhafi i they all insane is bush insane is dick cheney as the saying they birds of a feather flock together i was i would imagine these guys are all pathologically insane it's just that gadhafi seems to have a more extravagant wardrobe there is also a downside has emerged from libya which is the bengazi down oh the gauzy downs fantastic the. more of a trance music apparently of the crowd is all their hands and they've slowed it down really slow so everybody does the benghazi dance. it's freedom i can see no. but i bring up benghazi and i wanted to show you this little screen grab from the television where we're watching here and it was you know the crowds in benghazi and this sign in particular this placard really stood out for me no autocracy no

despotism no nepotism no cronyism and that is universal and that is what you are calling the global insurrection against banker occupation it's the same thing it's a desk but despots running our banking system or despots running the middle east oil you know those are for t.v. phrases all tied into one placard in the crowd these four key are the pushback against the corruption that's within every fiber of the law occupation of iraq bankers you know we have just as much in the west but there's very little resistance and one a common phrase in britain used to be tony's cronies we have the cronyism we have all of the military industrial complex we have all of the friends of george bush we have all the friends of obama and we have the partisanship that allows it to happen in in the middle east and the arab world they've been able to divide people by sectarianism by whether they're sunni or shia they cause

a split like this but in america it'll be like you know the red states can't really angry and call on socialists and nazi and hitler and all this stuff for obama when he gives his buddies like rahm emanuel jobs but when george bush did it they don't care and the same vice versa right here in beirut people thought you know that sunni shia shia sunni and in the states between red state blue state blue state red state and the powers that be like to push that that that conflict which is an artificial construct. really just to get people fighting with each other and not giving them any kind of basic services yet and also to allow the looting by the autocrats and the dust but they're only allowed to operate in a situation where there's huge sectarianism wherever you divide it and this brings me to this past weekend we went to a protest here in beirut secular activists planned protest and bid to topple sectarian regime so demonstrators out the street on sunday calling for the toppling

of a sectarian regime they were saying that the possibility of achieving change in a country where sectarian and partisan affiliations often defeat mass action so anytime there's a mass movement and the mass anger gets quickly divided into sectarian groups that so change never comes because you pick off the opposition quickly through sectarianism right or sectarian regime so the leaders they create a bit of a cage fight where they put these competing factions into the ring and they just battle it out and they're charging tickets. to watch the spectacle you know they're basically entertainment promoters and the other thing i've heard quite a lot by young bay rubies is this concern for the arab revolutions in that they believe they had a genuine one here a few years ago until it became the cedar revolution i you know with the logo and

branding by the u.s. state department they came in and turned it into a sectarian bag right they came in and branded it in such a way to create their interests and their normal interest on the ground here but those who are trying to escape this artificial conflict and construct but the u.s. of course is very concerned about only the oil price and you can see that in the the cartoons here they depict cartoons of a giant big uncle sam america look only concerned about the price of oil rising rising rising and behind them. dead libyan freedom fighters and they don't care about the dead people they don't care about the torture going on because of course the cronyism in the west they had their oil deals that tony blair signed with b.p. and exxon right well being here in beirut lebanon watching global media watching c n b c it's amazing because they look at the price of gas and then on one chart and then they have the dead people racking up in various regions in another chart and

they're trying to figure out how many dead people it takes to keep the price of gas down a penny and this is how they see the world it's all about dead people versus the price of gas how many dead people per penny and of course if they needed kill more people to keep the price of gas down another penny then they're all for it so they have these you know cheerleaders on c. and b. c. these overly kwok only make one in kind of bouncing around saying yeah they kill people as long as gas prices are down another penny and people think this is the cage fight of america is that they created a global cage fight to keep that but going forward stacey the fact is that price of gas is going to continue to go higher for a lot of different reasons so barack is going to get into some other business other than the exportation of mayhem and murder i would imagine well let's look at this next headline because america as i said is very concerned about what the price of gasoline will be so could the next mideast uprising happen in saudi arabia so this is from editorial written in the washington post by rachel bronson

a senior fellow and director of middle east and gulf studies for the council on foreign relations so this is the grotesqueness comparing what how the u.s. policymakers think how tony blair and george bush and obama and hillary clinton how they sort of people think and how it plays on the streets here is just. shocking the united states has a great deal at stake in saudi arabia though americans often look at saudis with distaste as one senior saudi government official once asked me what does the united states share with a country where women can't drive the qur'an is the constitution and beheadings are commonplace she tries to answer that's a tough question but the answer quite simply is geopolitics and that we know and like saudis us educated liberal elites cronyism so we have a few cronies there so why do we care if they suppress and repress the entire population as long as they give us their cheap oil as she mentions here she says

they're generally committed to reasonable oil prices yeah i mean this whole idea you heard from tony blair during the iraq war invasion there's no such thing as blood for oil and this israel you obviously blood for oil it's tony blair is guilty of this george bush the current administration barack obama of course by his reluctance to get involved in the freedom fighting movements early on and it's got a very standoffish attitude about it that's blood for oil that's a guy who is supporting. death in exchange for cheaper gas per his handlers per the mandates coming down from above that's cronyism that's despicable that's what people want to escape from whether it's madison wisconsin from ohio to cairo people want to get out from the yoke of these crony este these club to crack these banking awkward paying you know larcenous to professional murderers that's right and

to go back to this woman's editorial rachel bronson from the council on foreign relations and we were these people are very integrated into how us were policy is conducted and why she also says don't worry about saudi arabia our oil prices are going to stay fine gasoline prices will stay fine and the reason is that the saudi king is able to get thirty five billion dollars plus these are the positives. and she says he's co-opted the opposition the government has a monopoly on violence there indeed so the saudis are taking no chances and have arrested people trying to establish a new political party calling for greater democracy and protections for human rights so don't worry oil prices they find he's arrested all the human rights activists he's got a monopoly on violence he's the mcdonald's of violence these serving up make violent burgers every day he's the kentucky fried violent meister don't worry price of gas won't go higher he's a star violence but you see this conflict that what it means to be

a puppet is you get to live well but it's always very short because you have children and they have children and you get this massacre ocracy in saudi arabia it's five seven thousand princes and princesses that need to maintain a princely lifestyle and it becomes more and more expensive and more intolerable for your population to see that but part of being a puppet is you're not allowed to use any of the wealth for your own population so you end up being to capitated but if you try to even change it. and start going to your population to share in the resources you get to capitated by another group you know the cia or hit men economic hit men things like back. to capitation but never do thanks to capitalization oh no that's the american specialty whether it's americans prince class like timothy geitner or ben bernanke jamie diamond lloyd blankfein american princes who rain down upon the people with their love of a penny here to nickel their own thank you lloyd blankfein doing god's work. oh mr

getting so you see this in these two headlines about colonel gadhafi who was a good buddy of tony blair they they went camping together in that little tents in the camels many times and tony blair brought him back into the global community and watching the news here and talking to local people and reading the newspapers they target tony blair as the reason that this guy even had any power so first colonel qadhafi secretly moved four point eight billion of his own money to london last week so next headline libya colonel gadhafi must go now says pm amid mounting pressure on dictator so then the u.k. where poor balkan alfie thought he was buddies with these these cronies and these crooks and these autocrats and despots there he transferred all his money there and then they seize the assets so it's a hard time being a dictator you should buy the wax museum in london and you could just stand there

all day scaring people you know like looking like a wax figure and then who. am his good buddy berlusconi you know mr donny blair the new wax museum. all right stays there with thanks so much for being on the kaiser report thank you but i want to come back i'll be talking with anthony this is an interview that i did a few days ago so stay right there will be right back. for

the. we've got. the biggest issues get a human voice ceased to face with the news makers. in the. welcome back to the kaiser report time now to go to cairo i found with two time pulitzer prize winning journalist anthony the deed he's a foreign correspondent for the new york times he divide the time between baghdad and beirut but today he's in cairo anthony welcome to the kaiser report raises my pleasure paul seems like all of these revolutions that are going on out across the region have changed the narrative from muslims or bad to arabs or good and now it seems that there's a total shift in the perception of the arab world as now they're on the forefront the cutting edge of democracy is that there's a tremendous pride in the in the hearts of people there now you know i don't think it would over a good innocent muslims or bad necessarily might be the perception elsewhere but i

think you're exactly right that in the arab world right now here are the winds of change there's absolutely a fundamental we think of what arab societies represent and it's breathtaking it's breathtaking in its scope and also its speed we're talking about basically two months january and february in which two dictators are that's the awkward syrian leaders up call and when people are taken to the streets dressed of bands that have gone an answer for decades it was a very fundamental questions of societies the relationship between citizens to their leaders to the rule. tween religion and state the relationship between different opposition parties and ideological trends they represent are being rethought renegotiated and trying to be reestablished along a different formula this is breathtaking this is perhaps one of the most transformative moments in the arab world or at least in the modern history of the airport now it has to up. what i'm referring to of course in the west in america for example the the what we're fed on they may need is this narrative that there is no such thing is the arab world there are only muslims and there are bad that's

what the west has been spoon fed this narrative that us that is financed the military industrial complex financed the terror industry that the u.s. supply stock you know financed the the tear gas canisters that people found in the streets and cairo now talk to me a little bit about the role that wiki leaks and social media played and the revolution it seems clear that wiki leaks was the spark in tunisia and that's the spark that throw this entire revolution across the region yes or no i think you can't underestimate the influence of what some of those wiki leaks disclosures meant for people's awareness in tunisia but i want to be careful overstating the impact of both wiki leaks the kind of social networking sites absolutely they play a role in organizing and helping people together in spreading the word about the protest of the demands of these protests of mate but we're really seeing in tunisia but i think we're spectacularly in egypt is the fruition of years of organizing that's gone on course it's being led by youthful protesters it's a generational change

a demographic shift that we're seeing in arab world but we can't underestimate the forces the other forces are there in plate in places like egypt we're seeing labor unions organize discreetly at first is now very powerful it's one of the that's one of the main dynamics going on these days women's groups islamised groups and we've seen a kind of a cross-section of society that has mobilized and has gone to the street but has been successful pressing their demands sure whatever you have a dictator ruling over millions of people they're not happy and. be great they say three votes but until the existence of social media that was impossible now social media came on the scene and suddenly because of two factors not only did it enable the revolution but it also happened under the nose of barack who i'm sure when was told there's a facebook revolution going on two or three weeks ago wanted to ask a very interesting question what is facebook so the complete disconnect between you know it takes eight or better power for decades who probably if ever you know have

has not a work a day in his life suddenly confronted with what is facebook and in that gap if load this revolution i think it's a restating it to be honest i don't think you can see a case because this revolution if you're handed organizing going on here for ten years if there had been a labor mobilization starting five years ago if there hadn't been a coalition between islamist groups and secular groups in this country who were delusional whatever happened you're going to facebook in syria nothing's going to happen there mr you've seen a societal transformation or not for years now and i think the forces that we're talking about have been unleashed by this revolution are far greater than in social networking sites i'm not trying to minimize their war but we're seeing is a new moment in the arab world and it's a moment when one generation is taking the place of another generation i think that's what's driving the change from morocco to bahrain all right let's talk about to continue on this thread of finances the the monopoly the financial monopoly that is a currently in place does the military relinquish that financial monopoly because according to one study i looked at actually egypt. over the past couple of decades

actually been a pretty dynamically fast growing economy d.d.p. wise and so there is something going on there is the military going to step aside and let a more free market take take take its place from the monopolization of the mill and the military and the washington consensus as it's referred to i think the reason great point because this could be one of the really interesting things going forward and you can be counterintuitive as well what you've seen there is a lot of. about there is an incredible in a classroom sentiment in egypt today and the class resentment helped write this revolution a very clear passion that customers images come from these new liberal and other international monetary fund type reforms that have been ensued over the past decade in egypt it helped propel the egyptian economy forward but also dramatically increased the gap between rich and poor and at the same time created a class of what you might call crony capitalist people who were grouped around president barak son the backlash against these people against the reforms that in some ways empowered them and these are very powerful current egypt today so what

you can almost see is that the military stepping in to turn back those reforms those are of course is going to preserve its place in the economy you know people say it represents maybe ten percent of the economy it's a kind of state controlled type of economy but you don't hear demands out there in the street today and the military to step aside relinquish its economic interest in stupid more neoliberal reforms if the state of the economy if anything you hear the opposite you hear that couples calling for more subsidies for better salaries for you know what would have kind of been colonic back another generation socialist type reforms in a way to cushion the circumstances that are people living in so i think that's going to be one thing that's not you know it's almost counter counterintuitive or as a counter narrative in some ways is that the states being asked to take care of the people more rather than less ok well then how would you contrast that happening in the region with what we think now in latin america because that's been kind of a shift from the nail liberal policies to a more thoughtful as model is that what you're saying that that's the people are looking for a that is a model that's right i think you're seeing

a specialist worldwide we're seeing very pronounced in egypt especially we can again i keep coming back to school but it's an important one with this democratic ship those demands those criticisms are becoming louder and louder because of this generation that we're dealing with right now the generation that was out and tucker square is the one that some ways may be hit the hardest all right so let's go into the theater five years you've got a revolution to a depth of iran yemen libya iraq are very america and the themes are common to all these protests that. so five years from today. what are we looking at is it going to be i guess what we're saying is the people and including the math of strikes that are coming from the workers who are looking more for what we've seen and in that latin american region is that caught it do you think that we're heading in five years of the have a good probability of that happening or will be you know a retro retrograde move back to the old way i think that you're dealing with you know let me be superficial about it i'm a trade off

a little bit more you know when syphon answer i think what you see here now is a is a reverse of the formula that has long held sway in the arab world and that is that rulers are beginning to be afraid of their people and that's a reversal you have for for decades here was it were free to their rulers i think that very it was a cliche in some ways but it's very powerful current that you feel not only in egypt and elsewhere authority and the prestigious authority has crumbled and i think if you take a step further what we're really dealing with and it's as you're pointing out is a ridiculous solution of the social contract but you know i don't overstate the economic dimensions to it is absolutely driven in part by economic first editions but there is an incredible political awakening of women out there as well and that is that the british contract to speak read it go shoot it is you know idea of individual rights the idea of accountability of government the idea of people having a say in who controls their lives these are issues that are almost in or trying to seamlessly with these economic demands are seen as one of the same into corruption and accountability of the government individual rights people have against civilian who rules them all these things that are coming together in one very loud voice and

a voice that i think in contrast to past years has consensus in a society be it if you're a liberal if you're a leftist if you're islamist he's pitted people pretty much and joined join hands around around those demands well it's interesting to see the response in western media you know you have the extreme right personified by let's take line back over there fox this who is on network television in america broadcasting to millions and millions of people warning about the muslim caliphate. it's going to take over the world and you know it's it's propaganda of at its worst so we know what's going on in the west they're freaked out because they lost their lunch their free lunch with them a barrack recycling military dollars back to the defense contractors and i'm hearing of people doing it so that's the perception in the and the arab media i know out of there in the us after many years being in the wilderness is this type of al jazeera model of our new model or that is the media changing and forget social networking is there an explosion of journalism and they've traditionally journalism you know

just sort of the beginning of that i mean the idea of some somehow restoring islamic caliphate it's just you know it's breathtakingly ignorant to claim that this is the dynamic of this revolution right now anything we're seeing or you know not a retrenchment but maybe a a waning i think of islamised leadership of the opposition we see recurrence emerging in these societies that are organic that speak their own language and that the representative that we really had and there will be for i think that's what's so exciting to a lot of arabs today is that different voices are to killing their frustrations and their hopes and that's something that because governments american supported governments have not allowed for years and even decades i think if we go forward it's it's probably not quite there sales as it was in the world and it's always been the most popular arabic satellite channel and it remained so i think if anything it's been able to ride this wave of revolutionary change in tunisia egypt and elsewhere it's been able again so articulate in some ways look these revolutions represent it is interesting also the point that you made that other people are starting to kind of change their tone you look at egypt where you had

state controlled media state controlled television newspapers you know newspapers have gone to same supposedly untasted plea that there were millions in the streets and what mr mubarak so now calling it the revolution of the youth team is done the same thing now t.v. which was just an instrument of those older propaganda is now basically interviewing protest leaders and talking about the aspirations of the revolution it's again it goes back to we talked about a little earlier in the very foundations of the societies are be rethought we're mad. reconstructed and that i think is why these were recent or is and were because they are let me just point out something i read today saudi arabia somebody in that region a saying of their aimed at the whole region you know is trying to cook up some fear that saudi arabia clearly is the campaigner in the region they've got a close relationship with united states they've got the petro economy and they have the most to lose in the region if you want to put israel's eye for a second but they've got the most to lose. at sun are they ultimately is saudi

arabia going to be swept up into this or is that where kind of the revolution ends of the borders of saudi arabia with this person saying you know he's for the whole region goes why should the whole region go i mean just ten years ago he said writers were saying that the very unhealthy to severe societies was the reason for numerous of okada of bin ladin's and now we're seeing societies and some really come healthier places people are responsive they're talking lesions that are still in the populations demands of the populations are demanded art determining who rules them that's the revolution that is creating a healthier society and you are we going to lose american allies in the process israel when you get scared of the government that emerged perhaps because that is a cheap price to pay for healthy functioning societies that can offer more hope and generations to come back on for it all right well that's all it for have today anthony shadid thanks so much for being on the kaiser report my pleasure it's on that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy herbert and i want to thank my guests and finish aidid if you want to send me

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