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coming up today on the big picture. all right welcome to the kaiser report imax guys are where here in beirut lebanon to get a taste of freedom as it sweeps the region freedom fighters are everywhere all across north africa the middle east and even madison wisconsin it's a global insurrection against a banker occupation with its own songs like. this new hit from. gadhafi stacy herbert welcome back to the kaiser report well max first let's play

a little clip from this viral hit remakes of moammar gadhafi he's brilliant speech to the nation there we go. that's a fantastic sweeping the globe the population the youth the arab youth the thing they love so much about gadhafi speech is that they for forty years i've known he's a totally bonkers insane dude but the west is prance around the world stage at various i.m.f. and those sort of meeting the west gave him legitimacy so they love how embarrassing his speech was because it was mostly embarrassing for the likes of tony blair and. george bush is no longer in office but obama no i mean where is tony blair is he kind of square in london settings and goes into was lecturing

a i mean is he as insane as gadhafi i they all insane is bush insane is dick cheney as the same a birds of a feather flock together i was i would imagine these guys are all the logically insane just to get off he seems to have a more extravagant wardrobe there is also a downside has emerged from libya which is the benghazi dance oh the benghazi dance fantastic this is more of a trance music apparently of the crowd is all their hands and they've slowed it down really slow so everybody goes the big. stick it's freedom i can smell it. but i bring up benghazi and i wanted to show you this little screen grab i took from the television where we're watching here and it was you know the crowds in benghazi and this sign in particular this placard really stood out for me no autocracy no despotism no nepotism no cronyism and that is universal and that is what you are calling the global insurrection against banker occupation it's the

same thing it's a desperate despots running our banking system or despots running the middle east oil you know those are for chief races all tied into one placard in the crowd these four key concepts are the push back against the corruption that's within every fiber of this global occupation of corrupt bankers you know we have just as much in the west but there's very little resistance i mean one of the common phrase in great and used to be tony's cronies we have the cronyism we have all of the military industrial complex we have all of the friends of george bush we have all the friends of obama and we have that partisanship that allows that to happen in the middle east and the arab world they've been able to divide people by sectarianism by whether they're sunni or shia they cause a split like this but. in america it'll be like you know the red states get really angry and call on socialists and nazi and hitler and all this stuff for obama when

he gives his buddies like rahm emanuel jobs but when george bush did it they don't care and the same vice versa right here in beirut people thought you know that sunni shia shia sunni and in the states between red state blue state blue state red state and the powers that be like to push that that conflict which is an artificial construct really just to get people fighting with each other and not giving them any kind of basic services yet and also to allow the looting by the autocrats and they're only allowed to operate in a situation where there's huge sectarianism wherever you divide it and this brings me to this past weekend we went to a protest here in beirut secular activists planned protest and bid to topple sectarian regime so demonstrators were out the street on sunday calling for the toppling of a sectarian regime they were saying that the possibility of achieving change in

a country where sectarian and partisan affiliations often defeat mass action so anytime is a mass movement and a mass anger gets quickly divided into sectarian groups that so change never comes because you pick off the opposition quickly through sectarianism right or sectarian regime so the leaders they create a bit of a cage fight where they put these competing factions into the ring and they just have a battle it out and they're charging tickets to the to watch the spectacle you know they're basically entertainment promoters and the other thing i've heard quite a lot by young beirut is this concern for the arab revolutions in that they believe they had a genuine one here a few years ago until it became the cedar revolution i you know with the logo and branding by the u.s. state department they came in and. and turned it into a sectarian battle right they came in and branded it in such a way as to create their interests and to ignore the interest on the ground here by

those who are trying to escape this artificial conflict and construct but the u.s. of course is very concerned about only the oil price and you can see that in the the cartoons here they depicts cartoons of a giant big uncle sam america only concerned about the price of oil rising rising rising and behind them their dead libyan freedom fighters and they don't care about the dead people they don't care about the torture going on because of course the cronyism in the west they have their oil deals that tony blair signed with b.p. and exxon right well being here in beirut lebanon watching global media and watching c n b c it's amazing because they look at the price of gas and then on one chart and then they have a dead people racking up in various regions in another chart and they're trying to figure out how many dead people it takes to keep the price of gas down a penny and this is how they see the world it's all about dead people versus the price of gas how many dead people per penny and of course if they needed kill more

people to keep the price of gas down another penny then they're all for it so they have these you know cheerleaders on c. and b. c. these overly quater only make a woman kind of bouncing around saying yeah they kill people as long as gas prices are down another penny and people think this is the cage fight of america is that they've created a global cage fight to keep that but going forward stacey the fact is that price of gas is going to continue to go higher for a lot of different reasons so america is going to get into some other business other than the exportation of mayhem and murder i would imagine well let's look at this next headline because america as i said is very concerned about what the price of gasoline will be so could a next mideast uprising happen in saudi arabia so this is from editorial written in the washington post by rachel bronson a senior fellow and director. middle east and gulf studies for the council on foreign relations so this is the grotesqueness comparing what how the u.s.

policymakers think how tony blair and george bush and obama and hillary clinton how these sort of people think and how it plays on the streets here as just. shocking the united states has a great deal at stake in saudi arabia though americans often look at saudi taste as one senior saudi government official once asked me what does the united states share with a country where women can't drive the qur'an is the constitution and beheadings are commonplace she tries to answer that's a tough question but the answer quite simply is geopolitics and that we know and like saudis u.s. educated liberal elites cronyism so we have a few cronies there so why do we care if they suppress and repress the entire population as long as they give us their cheap oil as she mentions here she says they're generally committed to reasonable oil prices yeah i mean this whole idea you heard from tony blair during the iraq war invasion there's no such thing as

blood for oil and this is really a joke and it's obviously blood for oil it's tony blair is guilty of this george bush the current administration barack obama of course by his reluctance to get involved in these freedom fighting movements early on and has a very standoffish attitude about it that's blood for oil that's a guy who is supporting. death in exchange for cheaper gas per his handlers per the mandates coming down from above that's cronyism that's despicable that's what people want to escape from whether it's madison wisconsin from ohio to cairo people want to get out from the yoke of these crony este these club to craft these banking occupying you know larcenous to professional murderers. and to go back to this woman's editorial rachel bronson from the council on foreign relations and we were these people are very integrated into how u.s.

foreign policy is conducted and why she also says don't worry about saudi arabia our oil prices are going to stay fine yes lein prices will stay fine and the reason is that the saudi king's able to get thirty five billion dollars plus these are the positives. and she says he's co-opted the opposition the government has a monopoly on violence there indeed so the saudis are taking no chances and have arrested people trying to establish a new political party calling for greater democracy and protections for human rights so don't worry oil pricing as they find is he's arrested all the human rights activists he's got a monopoly on violence he's the bottles of violence he's serving up make violent burgers every day he's the kentucky fried violent meister don't worry price of gas won't go higher he's a star violence but you see this conflict that what it means to be a puppet is you get to live well but it's always very short because you have children and they have children and you get this massacre ocracy in saudi arabia it's five to seven thousand princes and princesses that need to maintain

a princely lifestyle and it becomes more and more expensive and more intolerable for your population to see that but part of being a puppet is you're not allowed to use any of the wealth for your own population so you end up being to capitated but if you try to even change it. and start getting your population to share in the resources you get to capitated by another group you know the cia or hitman economic hitman things like that british know decapitation but never do they see capitalization oh no that's the american specialty whether it's the americans prince class like timothy geithner or ben bernanke the jamie diamond lloyd blankfein american princes who rain down upon the people with their love of a penny here to nickel their own thank you lloyd blankfein doing god's work. hello mr deity and so you see this and these two headlines about colonel gadhafi who was

a good buddy of tony blair they they went camping together in that little tents and the camels many times and tony blair brought him back into the global community and watching the news here and talking to local people reading the newspapers they target tony blair as the reason that this guy even had any power so first colonel qadhafi secretly moved four point eight billion of his own money to london last week so next headline libya colonel gadhafi must go now says pm amid mounting pressure on dictator so then the u.k. where poor bulk dopy thought he was buddies with these these cronies and these crooks and these autocrats and despots there you transferred all this money there and then they seize the assets so it's a hard time being a dictator issued by the wax museum in london and you could just stand there all day staring people you know like looking like a wax figure and then who this could all be in his good buddy berlusconi you know mr tony blair the new wax museum. all right stacie over thanks so much for being on

the prize report thank you much and i want to come back i'll be talking with anthony this is an interview that i did a few days ago so stay right there will be right back. that's the compliment and. the creation of the beautiful system the global food system is not created to feed the people of the world is created to maximize the profits. gernot trading the actual physical grain your trading promises for graeme to be delivered a month or six months or twelve months or eighteen months in the future. for

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welcome back to the kaiser report time now to go to cairo it's not what two time pulitzer prize winning journalist anthony said. he's a foreign correspondent for the new york times he divided the time between baghdad and beirut but today he's in cairo anthony much of the guys report bridges were closer taught things like all of these revolutions that are going on now across the region and change the narrative from muslims are bad to arabs or good and now saying that there's a total shift in the perception of the arab world as now they're on the forefront the cutting edge of democracy is that there's a tremendous pride in the in the hearts of people there now you know i don't think it would ever occur to the notion that muslims are bad necessarily might be the perception elsewhere but i think you're exactly right that in the arab world right now here are the winds of change there's absolutely

a fundamental we think of what arab societies represent and it's breathtaking it's breathtaking in both its scope and also its speed we're talking about basically two months january and february in which to dictators or to say awkward terry and we are so fallen when people have taken to the streets depressed demands that have gone and so for decades it was a very fundamental questions of societies the relationship between citizens to their leaders the relationship between religion and state the relationship between different opposition parties the ideological trends they represent are being rethought renegotiated in trying to be reestablished along a different formula this is breathtaking this is one of the most transformative moments in the arab world or at least in the modern history of the arab world now i just to you know fill in what i'm referring to of course in the west in america for example the what we're fed on the mainstream media is this narrative that there is no such thing is the arab world there are only muslims and they're bad that's what the west has been spoon fed this narrative that disk that is financed the military

industrial complex financed the terror industry that the u.s. supply stock you know financed the the tear gas canisters that people found in the streets and cairo now talk to me a little bit about the role that wiki leaks and social media played in the revolution it seems clear that wiki leaks was this. part in tunisia and that's the spark that drove this entire revolution across the region yes or no i think you would you can't underestimate the influence of what some of those wiki leaks disclosures meant for people to wear innocent tunisia but i want to i think we need be careful overstating the impact of both wiki leaks and of social networking sites absolutely to play a role in organizing and help bring people together and spreading the word about the protests of the demands of these protests of mate but we're really seeing in tunisia but i think more spectacularly in egypt is the fruition of years of organizing that's gone on course it's being led by youthful protesters it's a generational change a demographic shift that we're seeing in arab well we can't underestimate the forces that other forces are there in play in places like egypt we're seeing labor

unions organize discreetly a person now very powerful it's one of the it's one of the main dynamics going on these days women's groups islamist groups and we've seen a kind of a cross-section of society that has mobilized that has gone to this tree and has been successful in pressing their demands sure whatever you have a dictator ruling over millions of people they're not happy and would be great they think three vult but until the existence of social media that wasn't possible now thought the media came on the scene and suddenly because of two factors not only did it enable the run alyson but it also happened under the nose of the barrack who i'm sure when was told there's a facebook revolution going on there were three weeks ago one it's ask a very interesting question what is facebook so the complete disconnect between you know it takes eight or better power for decades to probably the area have it has not to work a day in his life suddenly confronted with what is facebook and in that gap if load

the thread illusion i think that's overstating it to be honest i don't think you can save face because this revolution if there had been organizing going on your pretend years if there hadn't been a labor mobilization starting five years ago if there hadn't been a coalition between islamist groups and secular groups in this country who were delusional whatever happened to facebook in syria nothing's going to happen there in a syria. i've seen a societal transformation or not for years now and i think the forces that we're talking about that been unleashed by this revolution are far greater than in social networking says i'm not trying to minimize their role but we're seeing is a new moment in the arab world and it's a moment when one generation is taking the place of another generation i think that's what's driving the change from morocco to bahrain all right let's talk about continue on the threat of finances they are the monopoly the financial monopoly that is the currently in place does the military relinquish that financial monopoly because according to one thing i look at actually egypt. over the past couple of decades actually been a pretty dynamically fast growing economy t.t.p.

wise and so there is something going on there is the military going to step aside and let a more free market take take take its place from the monopolization of the mill and the military and the washington consensus as it's referred to i think the reason great point because this could be one of the really interesting things going forward it may be counterintuitive as well what you've seen is there's a lot of clout let's be frank about it there's an incredible in a classroom sentiment in egypt today and the class resentment helped drive this revolution in a very clear fashion because resentment is coming from these new liberal and the international monetary fund type reforms that have been ensued over the past decade in egypt it help propel the just an economy forward but also dramatically increase the gap between rich and poor and at the same time created a class of what you might call crony capitalist people who are grouped around president products on the backlash against these people against the reforms that in some ways empowered them and these are very powerful current egypt today so what you could almost see is the military stepping in to turn back those reforms the

military which is going to preserve its place in the economy you know people say it represents maybe ten percent of the economy it's that kind of state controlled type of economy but you don't hear demands out there in the street today the military side relinquish its economic interest is to more neoliberal forms if the state of the economy if anything you hear the. opposite you hear that cookie was calling for more subsidies for better salaries for you know what would have could have been called in the back of the generation socialist type reforms in a way to cushion the circumstances that are people living in it so i think that's the one thing that's not you know it's almost counter counterintuitive or it's a counter narrative in some ways is that the states being asked to take care of the people more rather than less ok well then how would you contrast the tapping in the region with what we've seen now in latin america because that's been kind of a shift from the neo liberal policies to a more socialist model is that what you're saying that that's the people are looking for a bad as a model that's right i think you're seeing a specialist worldwide we're seeing a very pronounced egypt especially in again if you can get the split it's important

with this demographic shift those demands those criticisms are becoming louder and louder because in this generation that we're dealing with right now the generation that was out in tahrir square is the one in some ways big hit the hardest all right so let's go into the future five years you've got revolutions in tunisia and egypt and iran yemen libya iraq are very morocco and the themes are common to all these protests five years from today. what are we looking at is it going to be i guess what we're saying is the people and including the massive strikes that are coming from the workers are looking more for what we've seen and in that latin american region is that kind of did do you think that's where we're heading in five years is that there's a good probability of that happening or without any you know a retro retrograde move back to the old way i think that you're dealing with you know let me be superficial about it it may be traded off a little bit more you know one side finance or i think what you see here now is it is the reverse of the formula that is long held sway in the arab world and that is

that rulers are beginning to be afraid of their people and that's reports of what you have for decades here was it were free to the rulers i think that very almost a cliche in some ways but it's very powerful currently we feel not only egypt and elsewhere authority and the prestigious authority has crumbled i think if you take a step further who will. dealing with as you're pointing out is a renegotiation of the social contract but again i don't overstate the economic dimensions to it it is absolutely true riven in partly it came across through actions but there is incredible political awakening going on out there as well and that is that where this contract is be renegotiated it is you know idea of individual rights the idea of accountability of the government the idea of people having a say in who controls their lives these are issues that are almost intertwined seamlessly with these economic demands are seen as one of the same and into corruption and it kind of deliver the government individual rights people who just say and who rules them all these are coming together in one very loud voice and a voice that i think in contrast to past years has consensus in

a society be it if you're a liberal if you're a leftist if you're islamized these are pitted people pretty much have joined join hands around around those demands while it's interesting to see the response in western media you know you have the extreme right personified by let's say clan back over there fox this who is on network television in america gras casting to millions and millions of people warning about the muslim caliphate that's going to take over the world and you know it's it's propaganda of at its worst so we know what's going on in the west they're freaked out because they lost their lunch their free lunch with them a barrack who think lee recycling military dollars back to the defense contractors and abusing of people doing it so but what's the perception in the in the arab media i know al-jazeera english after many years being in the wilderness is this type of al-jazeera modelers are new model or is that is the media changing and forget social networking is there an explosion of journalism in the kurdish knowledge analyze them you know just sort of the beginning of that i mean the idea

of somehow restoring islamic caliphate it's just you know it's breathtakingly ignorant to claim that this is the dynamic of this revolution right now if anything we're seeing now you know we're going to retrenchment been maybe eight a waning i think of islamist leadership of opposition senior currents emerging the societies that are organic excrete their own language the representatives that we really at. and there were before i think that's what's so exciting to a lot of arabs today is that different voices are to killing their frustrations and their hopes and that's something that is governments american supported governments have not allowed for years and even decades i think if we go forward it's probably not quite fair to sales as it was in the world and it's always been the most popular arabic satellite channel and it remained so i think if anything it's been able to ride this wave of revolutionary change in tunisia egypt and elsewhere it's been able again to articulate in some ways looking as revolutions represent it is interesting also that point that you made that other people are starting to kind of change their tone you look at egypt where you had state controlled media state controlled television newspapers you know newspapers have gone to same supposedly

fantastically there were millions in the streets of what it was for mubarak to now calling it the revolution of the youth t.v. is not the same thing now t.v. which was just an instrument of those older propaganda is now basically interviewing protest leaders and talking about the aspirations of the revolution it's again because back to we talked about a little earlier and the very foundations of these societies are being rethought reimagined and reconstructed and that that i think is why these revolutions are as important as they are let me point out something i read today. to me in that region assange of there aimed the whole raising of his trying to cook up some fear and saudi arabia clearly is the campaigner in the raven they've got a close election simply united states they've got the petro economy and they have the most to lose in the region if you want to put israel for a second but they've got the most to live with. at sun are they ultimately is saudi arabia going to be swept up into this or is that where kind of the revolution and

the borders of that iranian let me put this person saying you know he's very little reason goes why should the whole region go i mean just ten years ago the same writers were saying that the very unhealthy to severe societies was the reason for numerous of the cada of bin ladin's and now we're seeing societies and some which become healthier places people. response of their populations interest in the populations demands of the populations are demanded to take part in determining who rules and that's the revolution that is creating a healthier society and you know are we going to lose american allies in the process is when you get scared of the government of the most perhaps but is that is that too high of a price to pay for healthy functioning societies that can offer more hope and generations to come back on port all right well that's all the time for we have today anthony shadid thanks so much for being on the kaiser report my pleasure it's on writing that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser aspace the herbert and i thank my guests and finish aidid if you want to send me an e-mail please do so at kaiser report at r.t. t.v.

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