al jazeera is winning. the russians have offered up english language network i've seen it in a few countries and it's quite instructive the war of words begins or has it already been long in action while a top u.s. official is now drawing new battle lines in the war of information. and since the international media seems to be winning that war the us starts its bid to catch up and get back to quote doing what it's best at so what exactly is that. what so problematic with what the f.b.i. did is that it came in and destroyed the community cohesion it destroyed the

functionality of the community and because of that claim the a.c.l.u. and care are launching a lawsuit against the f.b.i. here how one american muslim community says they were unfairly targeted and even tracked because of their religion. it's thursday march third eight pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for now and watching our team. well it is the war of words and according to secretary of state hillary clinton the u.s. is losing losing to whom you may ask well according to her really losing to international media like al-jazeera and yes even our team is a far cry from the good old days the good old days according to many during the cold war when the u.s. one the war because they simply her best propaganda then it is you can take

a look inside a message machine. war declared the us is now officially in an information battle with foreign media which provide alternative views on world news views which often running contrast to coverage of events by the us mainstream media we are in an information war and we are losing that war i'll be very blunt in my assessment al-jazeera is winning. the chinese have opened up a global english language and multi language television network the russians have opened up an english language network i've seen it in a few countries and it's quite instructive we are cutting back the b.b.c. is cutting back some five years ago western media outlets including c.b.c. and c.n.n. had a near monopoly in the coverage of world news things have changed since then more and more viewers across the world tuning in to various foreign media to get a fresh take on events clearly the united states feels on the defensive in part

because it can no longer monopolize not only the terms of you know the soroti in these countries but also the terms of the debate there's other information out there other points of view and those points of view are profoundly damaging to a country that believes that its point of view is the only point of view or should be the only point of view r.t. presence on you tube is one example almost three hundred million views as opposed to c.n.n. that has around three million r.t.s. constantly growing audience is already an indication to many that the days of media monopoly are over and people demand a multi-polar approach to news in the real commitment to the kind of freedom of diverse speech that we really need if we're going to be in a democracy at home and in a you know a community of nations overseas is to many hillary clinton speech a few weeks ago on freedom of internet seemed contradictory to the treatment that

sources like we can leaks are getting us legislators are not crafting a law that would give the administration increased flexibility to go after weekly leaks and the likes and now the administration is seeking more funding to step up u.s. propaganda efforts have brought during the cold war we did a great job in getting america's message out after the berlin wall fell we said ok and enough of that you know we. we're done and unfortunately we are paying a big price for it but many say the lack of planning is not the reason why u.s. media are unpopular among world audience the u.s. is losing no one has been for years losing popularity and respect around the world but that's not a result of. failures in media communications it's a result of u.s. foreign policy last year the head of the agency that manages the u.s. government run international broadcasting asked for more money for his department we can't allow ourselves to be out communicated by our enemies list of enemies

included russia china iran and venezuela walter isaacson the head of the sea which runs with america among other media outlets later backtracked on this statement isaacson's page for more funding seemed even more unconvincing considering his agency has a budget of seven hundred fifty million dollars and it's way more than the budget of r t iran's press t.v. and venezuela's tell us we're combining probably money alone can't provide global media clout water isaacson's speech last year sent quite a hostile message to foreign media exposing shortcomings in the us mainstream but separate statements made it official the us is fighting a global information war and its will so i'm going to take our reporting from washington r.t. . all right so not bad making an impression at the highest level certainly there are some interesting shall we say impressions of this country i want to point out one more here secretary of state hillary clinton on iran and she had with an

african afghan man the only thing he thought about americans is that all the men wrestled in the women walked around a bikini because the only t.v. ever saw it was baywatch and worldwide wrestling. yikes times and of the message machine i guess earlier i spoke with chris chambers he's a professor at georgetown university i asked him why hillary clinton thinks it's necessary to increase funding for american media on the one hand it's very complex on the other hand it's not you heard her talk about the afghan general that is a metaphor for what's really going on here the corporatization don't mess to clean as american news has basically thrown out the whole need for news gathering and real reporting in exchange for punditry and entertainment and sensationalism because that's going to deliver the demographics to the guys who pay for the commercials well that has a spillover effect you have reality t.v.

and baywatch and all that kind of crap going overseas you also have no one on the ground in american private networks you know basically linking up with local people finding the real stories so it's a one two punch and that is what's undercutting our message abroad which is a good message it always has been but now it's fallen apart it's basically commercialism and bikini's and then inaccurate totally non-factual news reporting and basically jingoism if you look at some networks like fox so that's basically the downfall right there and let's just replay also what she said we thought in the report that she's very clear about who is winning this information or al jazeera is winning the chinese have opened up a global english language and multi language television network the russians have opened up an english language network i've seen it in a few countries and it's quite instructive. all right so this is not an attempt by

secretary clinton to pat us on the back or any good shout out to our abby that we're making impression our place is watching out here but the point is that she wants more money she is using now works like al-jazeera the chinese language network to say hey if we don't pay and perks they're going to surpass us if they have already talked about this sort of mixed message at all if it is it's silly and on one level because you can't the but the amount of money we're talking about she could literally set up an entire. voice for america on steroids a real state run news network she's not that's not what's going to happen they're going to try to go into these countries and probably try to buy news basically a true propaganda arm rather than a news gathering and reporting which is what our t. al-jazeera and the chinese network are going to be yes they're going to have their messages but they're real news networks they are pretty much where c.b.s. a.b.c.

n.b.c. were thirty years ago before things fell apart and record. you can't do that because she's going to build a voice for america that's like the old c.b.s. with walter cronkite and she's going to have to get people on the ground she's going to have to connect with people and their problems and what their aspirations are and the prices that's not what she wants the money for it's a true propaganda message creating machine she wants millions and billions for p.r. not for news providing news and that's what they have to understand there's a difference and that's why we lose losing this war i thought i thought was interesting that she sort of had a timeline for when the u.s. sort of shifted into the losing side of this after the berlin wall setting that her hand up and we start caring about that talk about this i mean what has happened since the fall of the berlin wall to now that has really shaped the war of the words what basically again it that's around the time. when c.n.n.

was ascendant and you had the twenty four hour news cycle but then it kind of clare told a little bit because they're now really start to see how much money you could make in the media all kinds of other people start to get employment domestically and it became an entertainment product c.n.n. is you know star kind of dived foxes and other networks took off because it was about confrontation you know analysis if you want to call it a real really bad and pundits and having a political message so that news coverage dives the other type starts to rise the entertainment model the economy starts to go south we're talking about a pretty wide timeline from the you ladies to now but that's what's going on so of course you know there's not going to be anybody on the ground people are pulling back their foreign bureaus because there's no money in it you have to satisfy stockholders who want to see immediate payoff that's what's going on in the united states other countries don't have that problem so they can fill in the gap and i

mean again even domestically people in this country watching our t.v. watching are al-jazeera specifically of course for the unrest in the middle east so really what this happening is we've opened up these huge gaps because we're more concerned with reality t.v. and people arguing and people attacking the president than we are with having people on the ground finding out what the problem the problems are and when you do that you can produce a product that people here and around the world are going to respect now as christine was professor at georgetown university and we should mention there are government funded channels here in the u.s. in fact there are actually seven of them that run fast around the world the problem is the audiences are dwindling there's nothing coming close to making an impact at least now like they were. isis kalen for it has more on whether or not us hundred media is still making an impact take a look. since one thousand nine hundred forty two the us has broadcasted its

cloture and politics around the world. out there with the full of great. transmitting in over fifty languages to the tune of seven hundred forty five point five million dollars per year but what happens when people just start tuning out more and more u.s. funded media outlets designed to promote america's image abroad are channels in search of an audience but taxpayers are still footing the bill. america has sunk one billion dollars into al huda and arabic language news network author and professor phil see that says the networks model is stuck in the past when american news was welcomed by sam the competition with a new arab world dominated by zero zero zero. there really is an audience outside of the right. fifty three percent watch

al-jazeera only half a percent of arab you are watch out for that care which is broadcast from suburban springfield virginia its credibility and the arab audience for the most or wants to hear about themselves from other arab critics say that from day one there was a major disconnect executives who didn't speak arabic staffing the network with lebanese christians to broadcast to its overwhelmingly muslim audience. and it audience that associates the channel with the u.s. the architects of the iraq war soon a new television service will begin providing reliable news and information across the region and supporter of unpopular and repressive regimes throughout the middle east but even small viewership is a lofty goal for another u.s. network. they say were so lucky. they're looking.

for twenty six years raju and david martin have fallen on deaf ears in cuba says cuban journalist moline alone so chun. it's hard to talk about the impact of radio or t.v. because on television it's not seen on the radio it's practically unheard of and on top of that in cuba the signal is jammed congressional reports point out the miami based channels quote failure over many years to adhere to generally accepted journalistic standards of how i'm good at what i'm are talking about a radio show that tells people to go into cuban leaders from the point of view of journalistic ethics it's very troubling and i may have had a fifteen million dollars budget in two thousand and eight to pay cuban dissidents on the island as its reporters and rent fuel in flight to gulfstream planes that's circled by island to broadcast t.v. of our teams and the us isn't just paying for news u.s. state department dollars also finance eagle four and afghan police drama former marine j. dilla says shows like this send

a subconscious message to support the military support the police force and this sort of thing and in many ways it does on a broad scale with twenty four today here in the united states ten years into the u.s. war in afghanistan says forty five percent of the media is run by rupert murdoch's news corp. creators of twenty four a series designed to drum up support for the war on terror in the u.s. twenty four was also created to support the doctrine of torture much of much of eagle force propaganda and sort of afghanistan's trying to mimic that trying to say that confronting insurgents and confronting terrorists and what it is is a good thing and afghans who support what's on screen in afghanistan contrast with the reality off screen with little sign of afghan support with a staggering one point four trillion dollar deficit at home and propose cuts in everything from medicaid to education so americans are saying that we should switch

out international broadcasting and let the rest of the world watch what they would be watching anyway for an artsy washington d.c. . so clearly it's not that there's not being money spence not like there are not channels out there earlier i spoke to radio host alex jones i asked him if americans realize that the gander seems to natter for both money and for influence . alternative media then it gives a different view its ratings are going up like archie and others as the state department is bemoaning but the old line propaganda channels are completely and totally discredited let's just look back four months ago it came out that hundreds of billions of dollars of banker bailout money was given to us and european media as direct cash payments this isn't just cia or state department run channels targeting afghans or the arab world our media here is show laced with it and it's

so cartoonish and show over the top that even the most braindead people are waking up to it and that's why though the empire is striking back and the us media is calling for an internet kill switch google changes algorithm last week to start walking in four wars dot com they are striking back in a camp to not shut the media off like egypt did overnight but slowly start to choke it down and i know as you have this in yourself as an alternative media are we crimes you want r.t. for years but you know we've got to bring this up you have been noticed quite a bit re re by the mainstream i want to play a quick clip that features you and then we'll talk about it but charlie started being held up like the devil with the t.s.a. put their hand up people's pants him towards dot com covers it all we've got the banks bankrupting we know actually i was taken with let's stick which i can't that's way too much not only is bad manners back i. feel kind of quick i haven't

really heard here to try to figure out what is happening with charlie that's where china. all right there's certainly charlie stated in the news that on other channels that real. questions regarding that i mean first of all do you think that who said what he said on your so because you're not like the rest because you give a platform for people to not have to be in fact i'm wondering what you think about the fact you're being so sought after now ok. well just to be clear i'm not ragging he thought this was a five minute interview i'm going to talk to charlie he was calling me during that last video clips i'll be talking to him within minutes i'm friends with charlie going back six and a half years i did not know he would do that on my show that was not planned but yes he seeks me out because he likes the alternative media and charlie is bigger than the whole middle east situation right now probably shouldn't be that way but it is but absolutely i mean if i could have three million radio listeners a day a million web visitors a day and that's that's

a conservative number if i can put films out that are seen by hundreds of millions for free on the lab this is the new paradigm and that's why the military industrial complex that created the internet here in the united states is moving to try to start incrementally curtailing it and shutting it down but if we can get all the new media and the alternative media to talk about this attack on the web they'll be unsuccessful just like egypt so the attack on the internet and free speech and true challenges because the state department cia propaganda machine is on the fight is on the alternative media is winning so the system is coming and trying to censor us right now and that was radio host alex jones. all the muslims in southern california claim they've been unfairly targeted because of their religion now they're taking on the f.b.i. with a new lawsuit which they hope exposes some huge while ations of the constitution

are these are among the window shows us how a paid informant is causing concern about the government's tactics in the war on terror. as american muslims prepare for prayers appear remains at the worshipper next to them maybe as by all. this is especially true in southern california where paid again formants have fractured cohesiveness of a law abiding community and fearful retaliation but. my wife fears it and my family fears it and i fear that. you know the f.b.i. is going to come down. after i'll email you found out he was being spied on he felt betrayed by his country and now he feels alienated because fellow muslims are now suspicious that he might be a spy the twenty six year old southern california native was approached by f.b.i.

informant craig months he'll presumably because of his devout muslim faith now the a.c.l.u. and the council of american islamic relations are teaming up against the f.b.i. suing the agency for what they say is its attempt to incriminate people based simply on where they prey something they consider a by a lesion of the u.s. first amendment freedom of religious worship the f.b.i. insists that it doesn't ask it informants to target people for their religious affiliations something muslims are finding it hard to believe this is one of the mosque where. to pray and socialize with other muslims it was during a car right here where he started making some very suspicious comments. that set off alarms and local community members reported it to the f.b.i. little did they know that the f.b.i. was actually payments he'll to watch then he was always interested in other other other topics in jihad and what i thought about jihad and things of that nature once

his cover was blown it was revealed that mantilla was paid one hundred seventy seven thousand tax free dollars over fifteen months to collect personal information on hundreds of muslims even though there was no suspicion of them committing any crime the case is eroding already shaky relationship between the f.b.i. and the drug law abiding muslim community it is extremely ironic and sad that here in america today we have to stand up here to challenge a government agency those taking us but. and to a time when people feel that we're living in a police state montel told the media that his handlers try to instill in him that islam is a threat to our national security but so problematic with what the f.b.i. is that it came in and destroyed the community cohesion it destroyed the functionality of

a community that would be f.b.i.'s best ally in protecting this nation's security and we want to do that because we this is our home and we have no other mission also raises concerns about the government's attitudes towards muslims and stroke if you look at the situation in the states fifth peace groups religious groups ethnic groups are always targeted because of their their faith their ethnicity like the japanese during world war two but i stand by what i said all day long muslims killed us on nine eleven and there is a huge muslim problem in the world if you are an eighteen to twenty year old. you should be strip searched. what terrorists in our country. you most want to cooperate with as many politicians and pundits continue to portray muslim communities as american breeding grounds for terrorists the f.b.i. has a lot of work to convert these american sense of alienation to one of trust. los angeles

. arch. so here we have this community where members say they're constantly looking over their shoulders any time a new person enters their mosque and it's not just here this is going on the fear and distrust is spreading joining me now to talk more about this is eunice abdul mohammad he is chief analyst of islam policy dot com and he is in morocco heather you know as i think you know some people might be surprised to hear about f.b.i. informants infiltrating these houses of worship simply because of who this religious religious group was worshipping to try to gather intelligence but i think many more might call this a sign of the times i want to get your take on this case and the bigger picture here. it's a good trade is there this is something new or something rare in the american phenomenon earlier we do is look for historical parallels as the brother of boots on the video you just showed one hundred forty early warning do with then the

attorney general of california delivered a speech where he talked about how wonderful america was because immigrants were constantly floating there to reject what they witnessed in their own country and to come for a better way of life by one thousand and forty two list of war and we're going to tell me general who was creating concentration camps in which america where how the japanese were perceived threats of terrorists much like most likely that what we have to understand from races is that we also have the rising phenomenon of increasing. the mask of cherokees where the f.b.i. themselves are responsible for getting a job of all human and misleading and mr reckoning going to manners that would suggest that they are creating media around respect to persist within the american society having a broader and justifying going to war this is nothing new this is typical of a very nice rhetoric of democracy freedom and you can only go so far as it does in

a program kyra but there's also this rhetoric here you know you know about reaching across the world to our muslim brother and that in this case sort of highlights out of this example of american not even being able to respect other americans who happen to be muslim who live in this country what do you think about that. well everything that's happening in america right now for just our structure the curse of the american and whatever that might be doesn't respect general american citizenry whatsoever i mean look at the car swerves it's being waged financially right now by government and financial powers right which is really it's a sign of the times and it's time to imagine that we're living in a world where the nation state has become secondary to financial interest was and comes to relieve our people across the river across the globe are going to where we played against typical threats we can no longer binds rhetoric we must look at the

actuality or rigo systems of what they profess to be democracy we have to look at the essence of things in return we realized immediately the hypocrisy common unarmed and i want to bring up a couple other cases going on right now including one right now in new jersey two men there u.s. citizens have pleaded guilty to conspiring to murder people outside the u.s. by joining a somali terrorist group with ties to al qaeda but there's more to the story here these two men apparently have been followed by the f.b.i. since two thousand and six i think one of them back then was sixteen years old and the f.b.i. recorded them thanks and pretty shocking stuff about their desires to kill and their attorney argues that you know these are just kids talking that in many ways this is not a mystery solved it was entrapment i don't know if you're familiar with this case in particular but i want to get your reaction to this. well of course we're familiar with it and he runs

a very similar trend when you look at any case then the suggestion that homegrown terror traveling he had been a help but we perceive this to be a bit of a difference from a different perspective in our opinion as we look at cases like we are not in a less a case we wish to carry groups like than back grain to that we've got muslims in america worse passionate about the same thing the millions of muslims in brand us is occupying or invading that or had their rights violated their homes or their privacy completely nullified this place can with millions of muslims unfortunately the problem we have persists within the muslim community we're looking better because your america are more concerned or most concerned with proving that they're more and more american and this is bill a vision biggest problem that we have is perpetual not just to file countersteering against the f.b.i. but for people to participate in

a social movement that advocates for real change now compaction a perfect example they can learn a property during their act. in alluding to the problems of mobilizing the black community and then repression against racism and he shakes out once the black man takes an i'm compromising step and realizes that he's looking was right by his own freedom has been jeopardized to use any means necessary to bring about its freedom or hold to that injustice i don't think you'll be buy and sell the receiver same thing to muslims or any oppressed group in latin america if you rise and it becomes more about defending yourself against oppression and advocating for freedom and alas about proving that you're just good old american then you have a chance of seeing the empire and gang you get the possibility of motorbiking a noose like a non-paid and the last second election.