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something else earthward very true to themselves and we were robbed her of. our words. others were underground. or our kareen. all right some pretty interesting historical examples brought up you know that until mohamed it she's analyst of islam policy dot com and that's going to do it for now i want to thank you so much for watching be sure to visit our t. dot com slash usa unite. more news today violence is once again flared up to these are the images the world in seeing from the streets of kandahar. operations are all.
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all right welcome to the kaiser report imax kaiser we're here in beirut lebanon to get a taste of freedom as it sweeps the region freedom fighters are everywhere all across north africa the middle east and even madison wisconsin it's a global insurrection against the banker occupation with its own tunes and songs like. this new hit from. gadhafi stays here and welcome back to the kaiser report oh max first let's play a little clip from this viral hit remakes of moammar gadhafi he's brilliant speech to the nation there we go. that's a fantastic sweeping the globe the population the youth the arab youth the thing
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they love so much about gadhafi speech is that they for forty years have known he's a totally bonkers and st jude but the west has prance around the world stage at various i.m.f. and those sort of meetings the west gave him legitimacy so they love how embarrassing his speech was because it was mostly embarrassing for the likes of tony blair and george bush who's no longer in office but obama yeah well i mean where is tony blair is the kind of square london singings that goes into what is why sure a i mean it's insane as gadhafi i they all i'm saying is bush and saying is dick cheney as i'm saying they birds of a feather flock together i was i would imagine these guys are all pathologically insane it's just that it often seems to have a more extravagant wardrobe there is also a downside has emerged from libya which is the benghazi down oh the benghazi downs fantastic this. more of a trance music and apparently other crowd is all waving their hands and they've
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slowed it down really slow so everybody goes the benghazi dance fast it's freedom i can smell. but i bring up benghazi and i wanted to show you this little screen grab i took from the television where we were watching here and it was you know the crowds in benghazi and this sign in particular this placard really stood out for me no autocracy no despotism no nepotism no cronyism and that is universal and that is what you are calling the global insurrection against banker occupation it's the same thing it's a desperate despots running our banking system or despots running the middle east oil you know those are four key phrases all tied into one placard in the crowd these four key are the back against the corruption that's within every fiber of the global occupation of corrupt bankers you know we have
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just as much in the west but there's very little resistance and one of the common phrase in britain used to be tony's cronies we have the cronyism we have all of the military industrial complex we have all of the friends of george bush we have all the friends of obama and we have that partisanship that allows it to happen in the middle east and the arab world they've been able to divide people by sectarianism by whether they're sunni or shia they cause a split like this but in america it'll be like you know the red states get really angry and call on socialists and nazi and hitler and all this stuff for obama when he gives his buddies like rahm emanuel jobs but when george bush did it they don't care and the same vice versa right here in beirut people talk you know that sunni shia shia sunni and then the states between red state blue state blue state red state and the powers that be like to push that that conflict which is an artificial construct. really just to get people fighting with each other and not giving them
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any kind of basic services and also to allow the looting by the autocrats and the death squads they're only allowed to operate in a situation where there's huge sectarianism wherever you divide it and this brings me to this past weekend we went to a protest here in beirut secular activists planned protest and bid to topple sectarian regime so demonstrators out the street on sunday calling for the toppling of the sectarian regime they were saying that the possibility of achieving change in a country where sectarian and partisan affiliations often defeat mass action so anytime is a mass movement and the mass anger gets quickly divided into sectarian groups that so change never comes because you pick off the opposition quickly through sectarianism right or sectarian regime so the leaders they create a bit of a cage fight where they put these competing factions into the ring and they just have a battle it out and they're charging tickets to the to watch the spectacle you know
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they're basically entertainment promoters and the other thing i've heard quite a lot by young bay really is this concern for the arab revolutions in that they believe they had a genuine one here a few years ago until it became the cedar revolution i you know with the logo and branding by the u.s. state department they came in and turned it into a sectarian battle right they came in and branded it in such a way to create their interests and to ignore the interest on the ground here for those who are trying to escape this artificial conflict and construct but the u.s. of course is very concerned about only the oil price and you can see that in the the cartoons here they depict cartoons of a giant big uncle sam america only concerned about the price of oil rising rising rising and behind them though. dead libyan freedom fighters and they don't care
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about the dead people they don't care about their torture going on because of course the cronyism in the west they have the oil deals that tony blair signed with b.p. and exxon right well being here in beirut lebanon watching global media and watching c.n.n. b.b.c. it's amazing because they look at the price of gas and then on one chart and then they have a dead people racking up in various regions in another chart and they're trying to figure out how many dead people it takes to keep the price of gas down a penny and this is how they see the world it's all about dead people versus the price of gas how many dead people per penny and of course if they needed kill more people to keep the price of gas down another penny then they're all for it so they have these you know cheerleaders on c. and b. c. these overly quater only make one in kind of bouncing around saying yeah they kill people as long as gas prices are down another penny and people think this is a cage fight of america is that they've created a global cage fight to keep that but going forward stacey the fact is that price of
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gas is going to continue to go higher for a lot of different reasons so barack is going to get into some other business other than the exportation of mayhem and murder i would imagine well let's look at this next headline because america as i said is very concerned about what the price of gasoline will be so could the next mideast uprising happen in saudi arabia so this is from editorial written in the washington post by rachel bronson a senior fellow and director of middle east and gulf studies for the council on foreign relations so this is the grotesqueness comparing what how the u.s. policymakers think how tony blair and george bush and obama and hillary clinton how these sort of people think and how it plays on the streets here is just. shocking the united states has a great deal at stake in saudi arabia though americans often look at saudis with distaste as one senior saudi government official once asked me what does the united states share with
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a country where women can't drive the qur'an is the constitution and beheadings are commonplace she tries to answer that's a tough question but the answer quite simply is geopolitics and that we know we like saudis u.s. educated liberal elites cronyism so we have a few cronies there so why do we care if they suppress and repress the entire population as long as they give us their cheap oil as she mentions here she says they're generally committed to reasonable oil prices and i mean this whole idea you heard from tony blair during the iraq war invasion there's no such thing as blood for oil and this is really a joke and it's obviously blood for oil it's tony blair is guilty of this george bush the current administration barack obama of course by his reluctance to get involved in these freedom fighting movements early on and bill is going to have a very standoffish attitude about it that's blood for oil that's a guy who is supporting. death in exchange for cheaper gas per his handlers per
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the mandates coming down from above that's cronyism that's despicable that's what people want to escape from whether it's madison wisconsin from ohio to cairo people want to get out from the yoke of these crony ists these kleptocrats these banking occupying you know larcenous to professional murderers that's right and to go back to this woman's editorial rachel bronson from the council on foreign relations and we were these people are very integrated into how u.s. foreign policy is conducted and why she also says don't worry about saudi arabia our oil prices are going to stay fine yes lein prices will stay fine and the reason is that is how do kings able to get thirty five billion dollars plus these are the positives. then she says he's co-opted the opposition government has a monopoly on violence there indeed so the saudis are taking no chances and have arrested people trying to establish a new political party calling for greater democracy and protections for human
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rights so don't worry oil pricing as they find has he's arrested all the human rights activists he's got a monopoly on violence he's a mcdonald's of violence he's serving up big violent burgers every day he's the kentucky fried violet meister the worried price of gas will go higher he's a star violence but you see this conflict that what it means to be a puppet is you it's a little well but it's always very short because you have children and they have children and you get this massacre obviously in saudi arabia it's five to seven thousand princes and princesses that need to maintain a princely lifestyle and it becomes more and more expensive and more intolerable for your population to see that but part of being a puppet is you're not allowed to use any of the wealth for your own population so you end up being decapitated but if you try to even change it. and started a while to your population to share in the resources you get to capitated by another group you know the cia or hitman economic hitman things like that
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capitation or decapitation but never do they see capitalization oh no that's the american specialty whether it's the americans prince class like timothy geithner or ben bernanke jamie diamond lloyd blankfein american princes who rain down upon the people with their love of a penny here at a nickel the oh thank you lloyd blankfein doing god's work. oh mr getting so you see this in these two headlines about colonel gadhafi who was a good buddy of tony blair they they went camping together in that little tents in the camels many times and tony blair brought him back into the global community and watching the news here and talking to local people and reading the newspapers they target tony blair as the reason that this guy even had any power so first colonel qadhafi secretly moved four point eight billion of his own money to london last week so next headline libya colonel gadhafi must go now says pm amid mounting
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pressure on dictator so then the u.k. where who are all khadafi thought he was buddies with these these cronies and these crooks and these autocrats and despots there he transferred all his money there and then they seize the assets so it's a hard time being it's a it are issued by the wax museum in london and you could just stand there all day scaring people you know like looking like a wax figure and then who is. he and his good buddy berlusconi you know this or tony blair the new wax museum. all right stay here with thanks so much for being on the prize report thank you much and i want to come back i'll be talking with everybody should be this is an interview that i did a few days ago so stay right there will be right back.
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welcome back to the kaiser report time now to go to cairo it talk with two time pulitzer prize winning journalist anthony said deed he's a foreign correspondent for the new york times he divided time between baghdad and beirut but today he's in cairo and the welcome of the kaiser report raises more closure for things like all of these revolutions that are going on now across the region have changed the narrative from muslims are bad to arabs or good and now saying that there is a total shift in the perception of the arab world as now they are on the forefront the cutting edge of democracy is that there's a tremendous pride in the hearts of people there now you know. i think it would ever record the notion that muslims are bad necessarily might be the perception elsewhere but i think you're exactly right that in the arab world right now there
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are the winds of change there is absolutely a fundamental rethink of what arab societies represent and it's breathtaking it's breathtaking in both its scope and also its speed we're talking about basically two months january and february in which to dictators and say awkward tarion leaders have fallen when people have taken to the streets pressed a man's that have gone and answered for decades it was a very fundamental questions of societies the relationship between citizens to their leaders the relationship between religion and state the relationship between different opposition parties the ideological trends they represent are being rethought renegotiated in trying to be reestablished along a different formula this is breathtaking this is perhaps one of the most transformative moments in the arab world or at least in the modern history of the arab world now it has to a. what i'm referring to of course in the west in america for example the the what we're fed on the mainframe media is this narrative that there is no such thing is the arab world there are only muslims and there are bad that's what the west has been spoon fed this narrative that has that is financed the military industrial
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complex financed the terror industry that the u.s. supply stock to finance the tear gas canister that people found in the streets and cairo now talk to me a little bit about the role that wiki leaks and social media played and the revolution it seems clear that wiki leaks was the spark and tunisia and that's the spark that drove this entire revolution across the region yes or no i think you would you can't underestimate the influence of what some of those wiki leaks disclosures meant for people's awareness in tunisia but i want to agree to be careful and overstating the impact of those wiki leaks the kind of social networking sites absolutely played a role in organizing and helping people together and spreading the word about the protests of the demands of these protests and maybe what we're really seeing in tunisia but i think more spectacularly in egypt is the fruition of years of organizing that's gone on course it's being led by youth. protesters it's a generational change a demographic shift that we're seeing in arab well we can't underestimate the forces the other forces are there in play in places like egypt we're seeing labor
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unions organize discreetly a person now very powerful it's one of the it's one of the main dynamics going on these days women's groups islamised groups and we've seen a kind of a cross-section of society that has mobilized and has gone to this tree that has been successful pressing their demands sure whatever you have a dictator ruling over millions of people there are happy and would be great they think three vult but until the existence of social media that was impossible now thought the media came on the scene and suddenly because of two factors not only did it enable the revolution but it also happened under the nose of the barrick who i'm sure when was told there's a facebook revolution going on there were three weeks ago one it's ask a very interesting question what is facebook so the complete disconnect between you know it takes eight or better power for decades to probably ever you know have it has not to work a day in his life suddenly confronted with what is facebook and in that gap if load
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this revolution i think it's a restating it to be honest i don't think you can save face because this revolution if there had been organizing going on here for ten years if there had been a labor mobilization starting five years ago if there hadn't been a coalition between islamist groups and secular groups in this country who were delusional whatever happened to facebook in syria nothing's going to happen there in a syria you see the societal transformation going on for years now and i think the forces that we're talking about that unleashed by this revolution are far greater than than social networking says i'm not trying to minimize their will but we're seeing is a new moment in the arab world and it's a moment when one generation is taking the place of another generation i think that's what's driving change from morocco to bahrain all right let's talk about continue on the threat of finances and the the monopoly the financial monopoly that is a currently in place does the military relinquish that fine. natural monopoly because according to one thirty i looked at actually egypt. over the past couple of decades
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actually been a pretty dynamically fast growing economy t.t.p. wise and so there is something going on there is the military going to step aside and lead a more free market take take take its place from the monopolization of the mill and the military and the washington consensus as it's referred to i think the reason great point to this is could be one of the really interesting things going forward and you can maybe counterintuitive as well what you've seen is there's a lot of let's be frank about it there's an incredible in a classroom sentiment in egypt today and the class resentment helped drive this revolution in a very clear fashion because resentments come from these new liberal and the international monetary fund type reforms that have been instituted over the past decade in egypt it helped propel the gypsum economy forward but also dramatically increase the gap between rich and poor and at the same time created a class of what you might call crony capitalist people who are grouped around president barak son the backlash against these people against the reforms that in some ways empowered them and these are very powerful current egypt today so what you could almost see is
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a military stepping in to turn back those reforms the military which is going to preserve its place in the economy you know people say it represents maybe ten percent of the economy it's that kind of state controlled type of economy but you don't hear demands out there in the street today and the military side relinquish its economic interest is to more neoliberal forms if the state of the economy if anything you hear the opposite you hear that he was calling for more subsidies for better salaries for you know what would have could have been called in the back of the generation socialist type reforms in a way to cushion the circumstances that are people living in so i think that's going to be one thing that's not you know it's almost counter counterintuitive or it's a counter narrative in some ways is that the states being x. to take care of the people more rather than less ok well then how would you contrast that factoring in the region with what we've seen now in latin america because that's been kind of a shift from the neoliberal policies to a more thoughtless model is that what you're saying that that's. people are looking for a bat as a model that's right i think you're seeing a specialist world wide receiver very pronounced each of especially with cancer again if you can get the split it's important with this demographic shift those
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demands those criticisms are becoming louder and louder because in this generation that we're dealing with right now the generation that was out in tahrir square is the one that some ways been hit the hardest all right so let's go into the theater five years you've had revolutions in tunisia and egypt and iran yemen libya iraq out very america the themes are common to all these protests five years from today . what are we looking at is it going to be i guess what we're saying is the people and including the math of strikes that are coming from the workers who are looking more for what we've seen and that latin american region is that kind of did do you think that's where we're heading in five years and there's not a good probability of that happening or without any you know a retro retrograde move back to the old way i think that you're dealing with you know let me be superficial about it it may be traded off a little bit more you know one side finance or i think what you've seen here now is a is a real first of the formula that has long held sway in the arab world and that is
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that rulers are beginning to be afraid of their people and that's a reverse of what you have for decades here was people were afraid of the rulers i think that very almost a cliche in some ways but it's very powerful current that you feel not only egypt and elsewhere authority and the prestigious authority has crumbled and if you take a step further what we're really dealing with and it's as you're pointing out is a really go shifting of the social contract but we're going to want to overstate the economic dimensions to it is absolutely driven and partly economic restrictions but there is an incredible political awakening going on up there as well and that is that where this contract is be renegotiated it is the idea of individual rights the idea of accountability of the government the idea of people having a say in who controls their lives these are issues that are almost intertwined seamlessly with these economic demands are seen as one in the same and into corruption and accountability of the government individual rights people have against civilian. rules them all these are coming together in one theory loud voice and a voice that i think in contrast to past years has consensus in
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a society be it if you're a liberal if you're a leftist if you're islamized these are pretty people pretty much have joined joined hands of ground around those demands well it's interesting to see the response in the western media you know you have the extreme right personified by let's say glenn back over there fox who is on network television in america broadcasting to millions and millions of people warning about the muslim caliphate that's going to take over the world and you know it's it's propaganda effort at its worst so we know what's going on in the west there freaked out because they lost their lunch their free lunch with them a barrack who thoroughly recycling military dollars back to the defense contractors and abusing of people doing it so well what's the perception in the in the arab media i know al-jazeera english after many years being in the wilderness is this type of al-jazeera modelers are new model or is that is the media changing and forget social networking as they're an explosion of journalism to take their national journalism you know just sort of the beginning of that i mean the idea of
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somehow restoring islamic caliphate it's just you know it's breathtakingly ignorant to claim that this is the dynamic of this revolution right now if you can we're seeing there are you know going to retrenchment but maybe eight of the waning i think of islamist leadership of opposition singer current summers you can be societies that are organic excrete their own language the representative who we really had in the arab world before i think that's what's so exciting to a lot of arabs today is that different voices are executing their frustrations and their hopes and that's something that because governments american supported governments have not allow for years of even decades i think if we go forward it's probably not quite fair to sail to syria was in the wilderness it's always been the most popular arabic satellite channel and it remained so i think if anything it's been able to ride this wave of revolutionary change in tunisia egypt and elsewhere it's been able again to articulate in some ways what these revolutions represent it is interesting also the point that you made. people are starting to kind of change their tone you look at egypt where you had state controlled media state controlled television newspapers you know newspapers have gone the same supposedly
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fantastically there were millions in the street supported mr mubarak so now calling it the revolution of the youth t.v. isn't the same thing now t.v. which was just an instrument of the most vulgar propaganda is now basically interviewing protest leaders and talking about the aspirations of the revolution it's again it goes back to we talked about a little earlier and the very foundations of these societies are being rethought reimagined and reconstructed and that i think is why these were reasons are as important as they are let me just point out something i read today without a arabia to me in that region assange of there are a. whole region and i was trying to hook up with them fair and saudi arabia clearly is the campaigner in the region they've got the close relationship of the united states they've got the petro economy and they have the most to lose in the region if you want to put israel five for a second but they've got the most to live with. at sun are they ultimately saudi arabia got to be swept up into this or is that where kind of the revolution and the
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borders of that iranian let me put this person saying you know he's for it always he goes why should the whole region go i mean just ten years ago the same writers were saying that the very unhealthy to severe societies was the reason for the emergence of the heart of bin ladden and now we're seeing societies and some which become healthier places people are responsive their populations interest in the populations demands of the populations are demanding to take part in determining who rules that that's the revolution that is creating a healthier society and you know are we going to lose american allies in the process is israel going to get scared of the government of the merced perhaps but is that is that too high of a price to pay for healthy functioning societies that can offer more hope for generations to come back on for at r l i thought after half a day anthony thanks so much for being on the kaiser report my pleasure is on there for this edition of the kaiser report with name act. guys are as they say herbert and i want to thank my guest anthony shadid if you want to send me an email please just at kaiser report at r.t. t.v.
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dot ru until next time back i think by all. rights omar been here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture.

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