tv [untitled] March 3, 2011 9:00pm-9:30pm EST
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oh i'm going to washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight the big picture two opposing strategies are underway in wisconsin stalemate democrats want some republican senators recalled and the republicans want the fourteen a wall democrats arrested which side went up and is union busting causing wealth inequality a recent study says yes and later do you want to be poisoned i don't think so but what if i told you that's exactly what some republicans are trying to let the
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chinese do to you. you need to know this the labor battle in ohio is largely lost last night republican senators in that state asked governor john k six plan to strip public workers of most of their rights even with six republicans voting against the bill casey got his bill through the senate chamber it was packed was full of teachers and firefighters to chant shame down at the lawmakers after the bill was passed legislation now moves to the state house or swift passage is likely and once governor casey puts his signature on it that the rights of more than three hundred fifty thousand state workers will be wiped away just like that back in wisconsin there's a tale of two political strategies unfolding the democratic effort to read. call
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republican senators is underway all democrats need a roughly twenty thousand signatures against each of nine republicans to force recall elections to get back power in the senate and stop walker's agenda for good meanwhile republicans in the state senate passed a bill that instructs the sergeant at arms to arrest the fourteen missing wisconsin democratic senators that's on top of docking their pay and restricting their staffs use of the capitol to the machines so what's next and how long will this standoff last year and more of this developing story is mike tate the chairman of the wisconsin democratic party and i welcome thank you for having me on great to have us here with us have you here with us what exactly is going on in wisconsin i'm hearing stories like like the former staffers of the democratic senators have now been reassigned to republican senators that they might get fired that these guys are going to be a rested well known it's really not a residence a it's a detention in jail with i mean what's with we it's really it's i described earlier
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is turning into almost a banana republic it is just absolutely an incredible scene you know they've revoked the democratic staffers parking spaces mechanics copy machines you know but more and more importantly they've barred access to the capitol the state capitol which interstate constitution is required to be open to the public a judge ruled that they would governor walker had open the capitol people and he's still in defiance of that order to people can even get into their state capitol so you know i heard today from your communications director the very occasional structures of my radio show on sunday a note later. a was difficult to get into the building but he had to be escorted to the press room by a police officer who stood with him while he talked to the press yeah this is the credits communications officer are these capitol police or the state police has as has. scott walker gone out and gotten his own praetorian guard someplace that there had. or they're the capitol police and they
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report to the governor's administration airport to his secretary ministration who you know is taking direct orders from the governor that they got tired of having people protesting what this awful bill is going to do they just rolled out of state budget by the way that's you know we thought this collective bargaining bill was bad for the state budget is just atrocious and what it does to the state of wisconsin and people are upset and even they don't want to hear about it anymore more tax cuts for billionaires more screw the average working per person in. this pool for the billionaires so got walker what's his and again he keeps talking about ronald reagan do you think that he's in his mind he thinks of himself as the two thousand and twelve presidential candidate or twenty sixteen at the top that's a good you know i think he does and i think that when you have someone who is so blatantly left the state's values and traditions you know tommy thompson was no fan i'm no fan of tommy thompson during his time as governor he would never have done this he would never have got it k. twelve education would never of harm the university system what he's doing and look tommy thompson used to be supported by the state employees unions. scott walker
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it's so hard to say what his end game is but it's nothing that's in the best interest of the people of wisconsin and i think it is something on the national stage maybe he's the next sarah palin who knows isn't there a kind of timing battle going on here that if you can get three republicans thrown out of office basically through a special election by early june and then at the end of june is there some sort of blow up time there or an end for for the what is at the annual budget of walker's million will but is this where the at the biennial state budget the two year operating budget for the state of wisconsin is due to be completed june thirtieth and governor standard used it the other day what citizens from around the state have filed the last forty eight hours a recall petition so we have sixty days to collect roughly twenty thousand signatures a district court a lot of time lot of money but if we can get those signatures we're going to have an election in a six week period all this stuff going to come crashing down towards at the end.
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june right on top of each other at the same time now that's assuming that walker doesn't. somehow. basically throw those fourteen democrats out of office and change his his former car is up possible it's not he can't throw the fourteen democrats out of office the only way you can get tossed off the short of committing some sort of absurd felony is through recall election we've got to recall a statute in wisconsin it's a high you know high court or you've got to get twenty five percent of the voters and has a daughter told you i don't know about that i want to say that you know we've got one state senators eight months pregnant is a single mom in the group you know these are you know some people that are getting on in years you know it's tough for them to be away from home. you know young people learning about unions for the first time for generations my grandfather's generation you know nineteen thirty five the great flints sit down strike state of the people shooting at them. is a walker a gift in some ways i think he's a gift to the labor man i think he's
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a gift to the democratic party i think that we're seeing a tremendous growth and enthusiasm and excitement of people who are just stepping up and saying this is too much you know billion dollars k. twelve education taking rights away from public employees it's just too much you know he is saying he's ending the state's recycling program after twenty years he's just saying it was trying to say wisconsin is no longer going to recycle i mean it's just it's gratuitous and it doesn't make any sense that absolute doesn't mike thanks so much for being with thank you very much i appreciate your shirt up there's a there's a consequence to union busting it's called wealth inequality take a look at this graph. published on pink progress today it shows the rate of union membership in our nation steadily declining since the one hundred sixty seven and with the paychecks of america's middle class it's simple without the ability to negotiate better wages and benefits workers have holes in their pockets. and their money is slipping through those holes. hardening and into the hands of the rich
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bosses this is what scott walker and the rest of the poodle republicans want as a poodle as in poodles to the koch brothers the rich guys that asian where the poor get poorer and the rich get richer joining me now to talk about unionization and when wealth inequality is a giuliani reporter and blogger of think progress thanks so much for having me. pardon me i don't know what happened there. warren buffett you know famously talks about i was secretary pays income tax and i twenty's and teens. this this change in tax policy since reagan has been paralleled tax or a change in the nature of the point since reagan and the consequences been that graph that we just showed everybody that you published today at the center for american progress is going to progress to work can you tell us about this so basically what's happening right now is the senate is all over the country conservative right wing legislators are saying that we have to start cutting down
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on our collective bargaining rights or to start attacking unions in the reason why is it can also have a whole lot of money. two of my colleagues at the center for american progress they probably wider than david madeline of the american worker project basically what they did is they put together a graph union membership over the last thirty years and they matched it with what happened to middle class incomes as you can see they both fell dramatically and they fell at nearly the exact same time and what this tells us is that unions actually have been a very very strong force for the middle class and that has unions like mine so does the middle class so that what the right wingers are telling us right now that unions there are hurting as hurting taxpayers are hurting middle class americans and appears it appears the history just isn't back up there like the great stabilizer. lives nobody talking about this is that is it because the reporters of the time we get to the network level are so rich that they don't want to see their taxes cut is that their bosses are millionaires and billionaires used to be politicians are afraid that billionaires will destroy them politically you probably
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know the story of our robinson and peter de fazio of oregon were to hedge fund billionaires to take out a democratic congress. i mean it's really unfortunate it's almost like unions and organized labor have been written out of our out of our popular culture out of our media i mean the last time alleviating was portrayed really positively you know it's a problem in that movie norma rae came out you know which my father probably remembers a lot more than i do in that he emigrated this country back in the seventy's so you know i. think what was conscience doing in wisconsin is gravy and what was granted it was really inspired the nation has put the focus back on unions and their ability to provide good middle class income benefits good middle class retirement good middle class pensions which a lot of nonunion workers unfortunately haven't gotten and a lot of the people who work at this network of course they are never going to come into contact with unions their kids right out of college or people who are white collar professionals sort of there are times there in terms of people who've never been exposed to labor and the power that has been it seems to me the most of the people who have been out there fighting for the unions union members talking about
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unionization are people who came of age in the fifty's sixty's maybe early seventy's when there were when we were twenty percent. going down from thirty five percent to forty seven after it was pressed. is this bringing is this weakening an entire generation of kids who came of age maybe even post reagan well i hope so because you know as you mentioned that actually most union members right now are between the ages of fifty five and sixty four and the age bracket where the few see the union workers are between eighteen and twenty four but i think we're starting to see a lot of people waking up i mean in the past few years we've seen unionized workers over at starbucks where the workers tend to be very young and we've seen unionized workers in a lot of sort of blue collar industries and david sirota has a great chapter in his book about called the birds of the world unite where he's actually talking about temperatures who tend to be quite young and you know i think i think young people are really starting to see the value of it's own work and knowing that they don't have to be by themselves out in the workforce they can make
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an appointment with other joined up with other members of their employer and they can demand is fair wages benefits and they don't have to continue to be in america continues to grow more and more to an equal which is what's happened over the last thirty years that unions have declined are there when you look at these stats did you see anything other than union membership that might be influencing seems like you know economic activity might have accounted for some of the but the but they both don't and drop at the same time well i mean obviously unions are not the whole story i mean a trade policy is a part of the story of taxation policy is part of the story but really the best most direct way for people to demand better wages and benefits and retirement and working conditions there are to have a union to be able to collectively bargain that we're going to that's how other countries do it sweden who actually has one of the best income distributions in the entire world and that's part of the quality of ninety percent of workers are unionized in that country that country doesn't even have a minimum wage rates wages are great because everyone's in a union blue collar and white collar employers and employees and in germany any company with over thousand employees are cleared after its board of directors made
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up a few representatives you know. it's it's remarkable what the europeans figured out that we have in a republican state i know it works exceptionally stupid it seems so july thanks so much for being with us. extreme wealth inequality like we're seeing in america today is a sign of a diseased nation and unions play a big role in overcoming that disease over the past thirty years both here and in the united kingdom as richard wilkinson and kate pickett have documented in their book the spirit level and their website. any quality truck or quality trust or u.k. as unionization has collapsed and thus any quality increased a whole bunch of social ills have emerged and we just go through these really quickly first of all over the past thirty six thirty years we've seen union membership drop inequality has soared as you just saw along with that social mobility has collapsed social mobility means that. the class the socio economic
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class who the amount of wealth that you're born into is pretty much the same that you'll die as this nation used to be a nation where people could easily move up socially it no longer is we are one of the three most rigid of fide countries the us the u.k. and singapore in the entire developed world whereas we used to be thirty years ago we were one of the five or six most mobile countries so social mobility has collapsed the middle class has largely become the working poor unions have been played a very very large role of reducing that inequality when wilkerson and picketed literally thirty years of research used to university folks and wrote the brilliant best selling book to be able in english now as well it's called as i said the spirit level they said that if we simply cut any quality app in the united states. we would have numbers the looked more like many of the european countries where
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their inequality was fifty percent of ours or we would have numbers to look like the united states as did thirty years ago when we had last seen in one our inequality was half of what it is now thirty and forty years ago we would see our murder rates would cut in half we would see that our mill mental illness would reduce by two thirds we would see that obesity would have imprisonment we do so by eighty percent teen births would drop by eighty percent levels of trust among people would increase by eighty five percent this is just the beginning of a long list of social ills that are caused by income inequality that they documented so brilliantly on the website and therefore you should check it out we have to do something about those in the united states. still out of the big picture safety regulation is a good thing right but some portals for billionaires would say roth that story of.
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screwed all of us who don't want to be poisoned republicans are trying to defend an online database set to launch in a few weeks. and online database to launch a few weeks that would make companies safety violations visible to everybody with a computer hooked up to the internet hogans argue that a base will lead to companies having to pay to fight lawsuits currently seeking complaints are kept secret on top of that republicans are working to increase the import of toxic products from overseas claiming to do otherwise and credit of the billions of their c.e.o. buddies these guys and and asia are the more than eighty americans who died from the blood thinner heparin which was manufactured in a dirty environment china can contain lethal chemicals for the thirty six hundred dogs and cats that died because their pet food also made in china contain the poisonous chemical melamine but the twenty five million children's toys found in america's stores there were laced with illegally high levels of lead toys that were
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manufactured in you guessed it china how about the four hundred fifty thousand faulty tires we bought from china it could have killed american drivers that's going on here how can you defend the foreign poisoning of our consumer goods but here to do just that seat motley president of less government. and big industry poodle did a strip with i'm just this is my new member yes. walker is the koch brothers poodle and you know if he didn't even recognize he didn't even know as wasteful enough to know that it wasn't scott to walk to work you would have a hard time not interrupting i thought maybe i'd share with you this is have some factor it's you can have your own glass i drink it it's like natural rhythm or a.t.t. i don't i don't have a need to. prove it oh yeah you know i don't i'm sure doesn't taste as good as the grasshopper coty's no it doesn't anyway. excuse me in your libertarian world how do we protect ourselves from predators well i think this shows again how.
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unbelievably inept government is doing inspections all of these products which you're right had led in bad tires and center were all approved by the government for entry into the country this is after the bush administration cut back on the number of inspectors radically cut back a bit what fossil was a radical was it was minimal second of all the government's terrible at what they do as i said this is why i was so i don't get this years you're saying what i've got a problem because the government didn't do its job you don't want the government right i want you know i want these i want these companies to be punished when they do something wrong the inspections obviously don't work as you just demonstrated very aptly because you're having the government do the inspection so who should do i think you can get together a conglomerate of. importers and have them hire a private third party then why haven't they already but we already know that we have because you have to do what the government why don't you add another layer of bureaucracy you can you know when when we lived in vermont we bought an old house i
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walked out of the corner hardware store and bought a thing that i could just scrape along would turn purple if there was lead in the paint but it's not like there's a shortage of these things rather than as everybody carry around a lab kitten test or the rod with big government is that it makes everyone think well is there a program for that or is there when cut government is so present in our lives and makes everyone think first it grows compassion out of people if you see someone who's down on their luck up there isn't a program for you and it's the same thing with with government inspection that isn't going well with no government for if you see somebody laying on the ground that's the sort of mentally ill oh there was no doesn't the most shouldn't have even doesn't the most conservative christians and they're the ones that are most charitable and give the most money to charity very valid gore with his eight hours a year they've already for the government programs i've known since i've stayed here because they go to private charity the yes because they get to private charities and they get in their churches and they help out themselves versus al gore who gives eight hundred a year and two hundred thousand dollars in income well i think that there's
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a. there's a real belief i think the reason for that is that there's a real belief among progressives liberals that this is the role of government that's appropriate wrong here for the least of them and they're wrong and there's no constitutional mandate for that there's no cause or remember that just what would you know until you know about that you get the first general they've already started it says congress shall not do this and then the tenth amendment says if it's not in the first nine it's belong to the state or the people it's not in the constitution one of the first. of the bill of rights is twice because to me yes you can quote the preamble is out and not cite it for constitution it's quite secure all of its core to the introduction it will book it's not there's a general welfare clause there's not a clause congress a friend who says that every hour to two to acquire funds to tax to spend those funds to promote the general well within the confines of the first nine amendments and not all offers not is it doesn't say within the country yes it certainly does no it doesn't where it where does it's where does it give what is it specific
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because remember the new powers are limited the under the if it's not limited it is not enumerated in the constitution it's not given where does it have numerate in the constitution the federal government to do welfare i'll give you an example where it says that the way it was late waited because real bail mr wolford eight hundred yes no there wasn't yes there was no force washington was the first president to sign a bill to care for poor indigent homeless people george washington you know we don adams also cited us in the not true and absolutely not in the first veto of the james madison administration james madison's first veto was when they wanted to change there from a being a government program to the government giving the money to churches to do and james madison comes his mission so well that was his first veto he said he and the reason why was he said churches shouldn't be involved in this this is a civic puncture of government this is the guy who's the father of the constitution yeah i need a check in fact you need to check your facts because what you're so you and i watch more about is that you've written
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a lot of books i've read some of these not all right these guys they you know. they can't know they were only occurring within the federal city you know in russian d.c. because that's what they thought they were responsible for but they were doing it they ran the poor house in washington d.c. it was paid for with federal. or tariffs actually. there's no constitutional call for that they were doing it they were wrong i think you're overstating they were having opposition and they were wrong and they then they wrote the words general welfare and this into motion for exam they understood what that meant for example when was housing and urban development created and it has nothing to do with that washington will not look what i think was developed there i don't know in other words or in the johnson is really what this is a minimal program of gas and it shouldn't exist we have just a minute with the these these large pro these large but now you get me to actually i know i don't government bad news the programs that would protect us from the chinese poison what we all want to believe in american pro poison. but the
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alternative is what it would lead to we have everybody that we know how we why are we not tasters you know you drive and you come with me to dinner tonight you taste my food before i arrive at the quietest the privatizing does not get cancer but the private companies can get together that are imported from ports and hire companies third party companies to do it see there's a great business are for if there's really a demand for it ayers you have you can make a fortune while the government of the way the an opportunity for us has as a government bureaucrat you seem to be other maybe it's government is doing the job so there's got to be an opportunity to see if it isn't my friend you might enjoy it no you really should stand for her the less is the less is there pretty obvious here maybe we should stop buying from china and start building stuff in america again where we can easily check and regulate it that too much to ask for what and paid for poodle politicians and greedy c.e.o.'s and carol.
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it's the good the bad of the very very ugly first the good wisconsin state assembly democrats since state republicans have acquired a court order and blocking public access to the capitol building and madison democratic lawmakers are moving their desks outside in freezing temperatures in order to meet with their constituents at least one party in wisconsin is listening to people who drop the bad republican lawmakers in ohio who are trying to pass the most restrictive abortion one in the nation the law would outlaw abortion want to harpy just detected but in their efforts to pass the bill republicans call for the testimony of a fetus so yesterday an alter cell was piped to the committee hearing take a look. at standing room only and hearing room one sixteen to see this a sonogram perform don't have a robonaut might images of her fifteen week old fetus broadcast on a large screen its heartbeat the little flashing dot course this is nothing more
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than a publicity stunt by radicals who want to roll back the rights one hundred and the very very ugly glass back on his radio show today back said it's just a matter of time before the labor protests around the nation will rear their ugly heads over the ugly of anti-semitism. i will but i would bet you that fifty percent of them are anti the organizers literally because in the end the the the pinks of the world is definitely bellowing tell you israel can take it literally yeah but now there's been a lot of that's. right this coming from the guy who's lived through american enemies and he couldn't struck a chord every day and so a lot of us look at this not of this person look at this person all that when he was related to sigmund freud you know his list. of enemies is comprised nearly entirely of jewish people seeking out anti-semitism one back look at america one
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that's very very. crazy a large attack of the killer on the right for new species of zombie like making punk guy. video court a seps but we can get court steps in little capsules your health food store i've been discovered i don't think the same thing had been discovered in the atlantic forest in brazil these fungi are the sworn enemy of tropical ants and other insects infecting them and causing unusual behavior scientists believe that answer infected by the fun guy either leave the colony out to the infection of their own free will or are kicked out by other ants then anchor themselves in place by biting down on the underside of a leaf or plant and then this happens. like something out of science.
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the from the of the court is set up from the am. tree beaks to grow and when finished schools from the state from. then and the am from the senate will be in serious risk. let's see control fungus unusual behavior maybe now we know the rest of the story about what happened to scott walker. still ahead here on the big picture well you can't see london or france and mostly see your underpants but now in new hampshire bill is fighting back against the t.s.a. as pat downs and body scans are unionized t.s.a. if you really want your safety officers working part time
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