tv [untitled] March 4, 2011 9:30pm-10:00pm EST
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now it's time for the big picture or all of the panels and i had alan nathan host of the radio show battle live with alan nathan on the mainstream radio network american community democratic strategist and kerry pickett editor blogger at the washington post ok let's get started chaos in wisconsin governor walker's threatening massive layoffs today if he doesn't get his way democrats are trying to recall republicans and republicans in trying to have democrats arrested so why is scott walker the koch brothers lapdog trying to destroy our democracy on. i think you are. elected lefties who feel it's necessary to corrupt the very democratic process they took an oath to support poster boy well you know why
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do that i mean it's as if all when you go to school our way it should become a law when the votes go the way of the opposition well let's have the additional standard of further compromise to be whittling and he was a true love it was needed to be inferred as nothing more than. he did within a lifetime they were locked in the vote. you know what you're talking about you're talking of the evil koch brothers i'd like to remind everyone here that georgia pacific which is part of koch industries that's also part of the pension fund. the public unions. yeah i don't know why they're so upset with the koch brothers considering that they're probably making out there a lot of money in their retirements but i think the main thing here said that workers behaved like a petulant child he doesn't want to talk to the state senators he doesn't like that they're not going his way he got concessions from the years that he wanted and the
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first let's go back even further to how this all started the but the budget was balanced window oil left he passed massive tax cuts which then made budget crisis so he had to do so he could do the budget repair bill but you try to shove there in three days without much testimony or much hearings are going through committee and when the state senators said you know look we've got to slow this down we want to go through this like hold on hold on here he laughed because there is no other option you want because they both will go either way look if everything is up to compromise in perpetuity then it's never up for settlement obama. and yet it is not compromise it's a valid. point where you have more votes on one side. the other two former trumps the latter and the latter if they're upset about it they get to live another day another electoral opportunity will come along one of them. i'm going to go home because i can see here that i'm going to lose the streets you can't arrest people
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who disagree with you either or shut them out of the capital which is also something that walker has done and as i see it there even if you do not the state supreme court ruled that they need to open the capital back up that they were violating people's first amendment rights actually the stars the court was concerned all of these all these sleeping in the capitol day after day that the actually opened it up and frankly i like to point out the people who were sleeping in the capitol putting signs all over that probably cost the people of wisconsin at least six point five million dollars not the brutality of their revised those numbers immediately and the painters union have agreed to come in and help pain and to donate their time and services to say that people who are using. the tape the painters tape to put signs up is worth seven million dollars i mean that you actually saw you can see them finally actually more. people could have signs there and i actually not only not only that but at one point i went to go plug in my head into the outlet and it wasn't any outlet wasn't working somebody whips out a sharpie and says ok you know i'm still reading
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a wall here and you know and so it doesn't work i'm like oh you don't have to do that and the guy they analyze the marble i mean this is not political not to mention the fact that the whole capital began stinking up a bit but that's secondary and tertiary which is of greater importance is the fact that you had votes in place one side is going to prevail over the other they had to be really for me. that's right there in the constitution but they can also attach though the collective bargaining measure to and on spending bill and then the national right. to do it is because that would be admitting that this isn't about the budget that was you know policing but for your return we're going to have to look fifteen hundred people go and. it's on you. just to make. sure by virtue of those. the corporate and republican see no place for unions in american society and the word is hard as they can to turn us into a libertarian republic like so. i thought. he would do these look like yeah they would return to the government does nothing but. you can always take
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a look at this graph so you can see the monitor over there you see it here it clearly shows a forty year drop in union membership corresponding with a forty year drop in the middle class is sure. this is partisan this is math so why do republicans think wealth inequality in america is a good thing. this is an issue about republicans think wanting wealth inequality in the end i think what republicans conservatives are looking for is people to actually succeed on their own i mean look union membership has been on the decline for a number of years simply so has. no i don't really see it on their own the roads the public schools the infrastructure that we all benefit from is something that all companies and the country benefit and the workers benefit from it as well and the fact is that the tax code had shifted and helped chip chip thought well this kind of focus that people who are in big business and who are shipping jobs overseas and
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disadvantaging the workers that you know that that's ok that that's fine. the unions are the problem so much private sector unions are fine because leadership mutual counterweights you have the leaders representing the union members and on the opposite side you've got corporate representatives who is looking out for the shareholders but that dynamics not in place with public union sector workers because when it comes to public unions yes those leaders are looking out for their folks but on the other side you have politicians who while they're supposed to be looking out for the taxpayers are instead finding for greater political rewards by acquiescing to the union member union it's even if it's. introducing that would kill that i would hear it wants to change it if it won't there are there's a fundamental difference there are middle class taxpayers and there are high income taxpayers and a lot. unhappy union job to make a middle class jobs because of the unions and that we've now seen the shifting of power straight over into high income earners we've seen that their tax burden has disproportionately then decrease and then the show the shoulder the people who are
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shouldering the burden here are the middle class so we really disagree about publicising are huge already the middle class do not belong to unions and guess what the people laying out the money to private sector unions or corporations who it can be legitimately argued had much of their wealth brought about because of union workers i'm for collective bargaining big time however when it comes to public sector unions that disparity is tremendous because then the bosses the taxpayer even richard cole no stranger to liberalism said you know what i don't want to be the sap here just like any quoted in the maltese falcon and plenty of liberals are coming along with the perspective i don't know very well i just told you what i don't hope for the nobody's going to be reasonably reassured is that republicans don't care about inequality or its consequence poor people they only care about the rich people who are funny and classmate it was really good and. the warren buffett. has this one. look at these results from a new n.b.c. wall street journal poll eighty one percent of americans this is you know what's
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the best way to solve the budget crisis right eighty one percent of americans support taxing millionaires sixty eight percent of americans want the bush tax cuts repealed i'm super rich so this is wall street journal poll seventy four percent of americans want to cut off subsidies to big oil producers of course republicans are opposed to all of these ideas so how long until americans realize that the real extremists in our country are the republicans are totally out of step with the river if there were some extremists then why did so many republicans in appealing elected him to go over and over on to the house side apparently all of america happens to be extremist if that's the case i mean let's not forget here there are a number of these wealthy americans that everyone likes to pick on your who are also very. working your two also a number of people in the private sector who are also unemployed unfortunately though they're the there are so overregulated they're so overtaxed and very often we hear from people on the left such as yourselves that well the people that
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they're there and the taking of companies overseas or the pushing jobs overseas well the reason why they end up having to push to overseas is because they're being overtaxed and overregulated over here in the united states just like we've forgotten completely that we have the second highest corporate tax rate in the country in the world i mean in the world we have a secular as we have to tax free in the universe you get actually the second lowest tax collections in the developed and you the thirty four you see the nations our corporations pay the second largest so i would measure by credit on what percentage of g.d.p. percentage of the income percentage pretty much anything you do the second lowest of the lowest you know the average tax that's actually paid by corporations yes this is seven percent usually go to thirty five percent and that the tax rate on the wealthiest one percent during ivan how are all the way up to reagan and much higher than it is now and i would say a lot of people out there to the gold in the home of john and out here in the. middle this is not only say john f. kennedy made it clear that it's a paradoxical truth that when you lower tax rates you increase tax revenues because
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you allow businesses to have that many more dollars to hire that many more people which contributes that many more dollars because it's actually getting so large a chunk of your life you always would imagine marty in any ministration insurers who worked in the reagan ministries reality is that what the majority of americans are feeling right now they watch wall street take their economy and them on main street. and really disabuse you of the i'm going to read literally because you do know that you know first of all let me recommend that you go back and actually i know that you're going to reward kennedy yeah usually it's ninety to seventy i would want to show you because we could make the inflation rates low as long as our media is run by centralized corporate oligarchy elites basically and gives infotainment news the real extremism the republicans will be no most americans will be right back still more ahead here. big picture. more of the top stories. are flimsy lo and. behold rachel daddy's in with nothing people are suggesting
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and we're back to the big picture rundle i'm joined by alan nathan host of the ratio battle lines of delegates and other mainstream radio network erica community democratic strategist and kerry take it under water at the washington times let's go back to it republicans are trying to stamp out the regulation of potentially toxic products poisonous baby bottles because it cuts of the profits of their c.e.o. bodies why is it that the republicans want to poisons why do we all do they think that we should all have our own personal food tasters i mean what's the deal here this is the closely guarded movable standards where you rename a thing as being something other than what it is in order to gain the ground your arguments over was not as public we gave the use of we have to do budgeting tree arch things are going to have to be cut no matter what we call it guess what good people are going to be harmed by it i don't know how we skate this and i mean the republicans also have to face up to this other surgeries i believe we can agree and disagree on both sides of the aisle. to publish this in the defeat of seats in the
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companies that are if the information sharing has been something that you know has been under attack a lot of ways in the food safety that's basically information sharing bill to allow different health departments to communicate with one another so that when there's a outbreak that the hospitals and the health people can contribute as quickly as possible same thing with products that when you discover that there's health problems or that a product has toxic levels we want people to be able to have that information shared as quickly as possible and and my experience in working in the senate is that we found that a lot of industries were actually very supportive of having these standards because a lot of companies were doing that and work kind of you know the good faith arguer and then were finding that they were getting clock when it came to competition from places like china and that without these regulations that. but disadvantage to people who actually want to do the right thing and not poison their customers here is in there a place for regulation will look part of we the people will look first of all i don't think that republicans are out to poison anyone mean that this goes back to the old argument that the republicans aren't force a clean air or
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a clean water and that and the and therefore they should have it was that you know you know but look you know what it comes down to is of course nobody wants to see people being hurt by products and and that's why of course we certainly have the court system and right now and also we have got people to to also check these things out but. we should let it go at this be resolved but as far as transparency is concerned i find it very fascinating now the number of liberals who are saying oh we have to show transparency with this and that but in the same way transparency elsewhere it's not really happening the problem in my mind is that corporations are essentially sociopaths they're beholden to all these profits they don't have a moral compass and we therefore have that government balance that power protects people it's super so i mean they stopped. on sunday director charles ferguson won the oscar for best documentary film of his movie inside job here's what he said in his acceptance speech. i must start by pointing out
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that three years after a horrific financial crisis caused by massive fraud not a single financial executive is going to cheat and that's wrong. so will either party ever be able to part with their top campaign contributors and do what's right by throwing the banks to jail because i'm not i didn't see it there and bush will not see it there on the or not the old we villains here you know harry reid rightfully so it was that. everybody works on wall street and not the only villains here for financial collapse. memory serves harry reid said during the week election and rightfully so but what triggered this whole. this was the repeal of glass steagall which was the depression era legislation that used to separate corporate banking from his best innovative commercial break you from investment banking and he was right however what he forgot was that the vast majority of both democrats and republicans on both sides of the aisle including every reid voted to
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repeal glass steagall and he's correct is one of the reasons why fannie mae and freddie mac. were able to enable these banks to write all the bad paper for instance that's why it's true yes or growth obama did inherit this horrible economy but guess what it was because we see him by both parties in both chambers look at you know the state who do you believe the homeless second i also like to follow up a sort of the whole fannie mae freddie america issue here because even back in two thousand and five towards bush said we have to start reforming what's going on. you know race and. race. and i was going to go out to deal with that somebody frankly i've been standing here waiting in line. under the old no five he said don't know you jerry went to fannie mae and freddie macand my letter sent me a recent history of the problem is that the reality is we're not able to propose legislation because i already party and when he was in the minority party the time could not put legislation out there without the majority is concerned so they were not able to deal with us in the way that they should have but to get back to the real question of why people haven't gone to jail is that recklessness isn't illegal in our country we have this idea that the market would take care of itself because
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doing something as stupid as taking the economy and that would hurt you so badly to be something that would check it so that people wouldn't want to do that but when we put the incentives on these kind of short term gains for people who are rewarded for how many loans they get out not how many good loans they get parties thank you very much. the big picture for me on this is i miss ronald reagan. when he s. and l. crisis he put over two thousand baxter's. and and i think both parties should do what they were guilty of criminal activity which you said is correct result of the lack of a law you should have had libya is a national honor with self tonight. republicans have an idea about how to fix that mess the heritage. they should put out a report this week supporting dropping bombs so many conservatives think you can solve just about everything but you're very good i mean really good t.v. i mean like the only bar and look i mean but on libya you look for in kosovo he was right we were able to do it with air power alone and we had no troops on the ground
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we were bombing anybody else at the same time you have to remember though as far as libya is concerned this just goes to show as. obama's response with a it was slow be you really tend to wonder what exactly obama plans on doing in terms of a response without some kind of multilateral group coming in because you know even star cozy is looking at him wondering you know what kind of appeasement strategy do you really have going here the brits are looking at him as also weak so from germany you know and i think you know honestly like the europeans are looking at this president wondering what exactly is this plan here you know i read the financial times which is fairly international never seen any european leaders see. a lot of your friends unless the first person point it needs to be decided within libya and that we have got we are already dropping bombs in iraq we're dropping bombs in afghanistan to take on a third country trouble i'm going to make it any better probably not i mean if we
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do this you know strike down our no fly zone we're still we really being true to that as an act of war secretary of defense made it abundantly clear if we do that we've got to destroy equipment in libya we have to first attack libya so was to create a no fly zone that just doesn't happen on its own borders are part of your response to that they don't create they will cause more problems than all salt and to a certain degree mean we should which are going to session if you don't have a. problem there is no bombs and you know what we really couldn't have spoken. to balliol from libya because we were scared that the americans who were already in there they would start hurting them i mean that was almost like saying please don't hurt our americans here you know we'll be real nice to you i mean that was like a really. response and immediately makes you wonder where exactly is this president terms are almost all your nominee should be dictated by obama looking like the biggest baddest bully in the room i think it takes a lot of. the stream doesn't pay that i began sure on this is that if we
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american eyes this we do so it is very significant i think obama is doing the right thing by stepping back finally quick question so what lengths will birth republicans go to keep president obama from being a second term president will lay a pig blood from him to determine if he has human d.n.a. the demand strip searches to find the man made in kenya label or see pipe in his son in africa from the eighty's band is to see the president's reaction if he dances and stuff. what you know what like this is an issue the liberals want out there and the liberals need out there because frankly as far as they're concerned it should be going on gee you know we would love to have the birth there is out there because it would really help us in campaign two thousand and twelve but you know what is really are these are these are one certain scenes but how college transcripts that's what everyone's really wondering about you know what did obama get when it when it was over an out of harvard and the man of born in hawaii and a liberal my father being brought this out to help out the other liberals and i'm
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really confused is that your attitude before he could make this all go away by just reducing the load for also his good buddy governor abercrombie the things worse he says oh prove that he's a citizen i'm going to go to the archives and i'm going to find the long form birth certificate he couldn't find it a little notation but i think he's a citizen but the reality is obama could make all the school way by simply cost of the long form birth certificate but he will do it and they can find that if you're a has the bottom of a birth or just don't blame us for proof you kids i guess you believe. this. will be alive and the birth is going to flee to canada and that nation's average i.q. but fifteen points. so only if every allegation character canoe leaves. very very carry picket thank you all for being respectful of i think should be you know do.
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you think it's just a coincidence that only a few months after the supreme court's citizens united decision republicans are waging war against me unions across the country and the koch brothers and billionaires and wall street are funding both directly and indirectly a variety of politicians from scott walker in wisconsin to pretty much any anti-union republican the sticks its head up it's no coincidence in fact is the final part of a plan an act that way back in eighteen eighty six by the wealthiest people in our nation to undermine our democracy and put in place one party rule in america that are boils down to something called corporate personhood and it's the basis of book i wrote called an equal protection. our founders knew all too well the dangers of corporate power at the boston tea party was a protest against the world's largest trans national corporation of the time the british east india company and through the first century of our nation presidents legislators and the courts held today a healthy mistrust of corporate power was
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a good thing that was until just after the civil war when the fourteenth amendment was passed and gave former slaves access to our courts equal protection under the law by saying no state shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws a simple innocuous declaration that there was a loophole in the fourteenth amendment and explains everything that's going on in america today the sixth since the sixth century british common law on which ours was based as distinguished actual people from other entities like government businesses and churches by declaring humans as natural persons and corporations governments and churches as artificial persons but since the fourteenth amendment left out the word natural for the word person. corporations use that vagary and have since argued that they should be considered persons like you and me as their artificial persons and otherwise many of the other were normal human
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protections of the constitution they should have them all and in one thousand nine hundred six in the case of santa clara county versus other pacific railroad the supreme court seems to agree with this argument but the truth we now know is that the court's decision was actually changed by a court reporter and a court never really did give corporations rights as persons still the idea struck stark excuse me because that same corrupt court reporter since then a corporate person an entity that is not born does not die is neither male nor female those need safe water and clean food cannot be put in prison it enjoys many of the same constitutional rights that you and i do exists there now a super purse. and this idea of corporations as people lay mostly quiet until the one nine hundred seventy s. when american corporations began to push it in front of the supreme court with decisions like buckley versus vallejo and first national bank versus bloody
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decisions that essentially expanded the rights of corporations based on the idea that they were persons but it wasn't until january of two thousand and ten last year that the supreme court really blew the doors up granting far fewer freedom of speech rights to corporations in their citizens united decision and thus the final piece of the puzzle was fit in for the chamber of commerce in america's transnational corporations and billionaires now corporations as people critics planned it could expand their influence into the markets and into the government they now had unprecedented influence as a result of the supreme court decision about a year ago over our society and their intentions were not small the democratic with their new rights some of the wealthiest oligarchy in america dumped millions of dollars from their private or corporate coffers into republican political campaigns and a few actually and and a few corporate democrats and as a result of
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a new corporate spending by a large republicans the lapdogs of the c.e.o.'s of the billionaires swept into the halls of congress and governors' mansions in states all across the country and today those newly elected republicans are repaying their corporate overlords by going after the last group left it's big enough or well funded enough to challenge corporate power the unions who because of democratic it because the democratic party tends to be more pro work her and pro c.e.o. just happen to mostly contribute to democrats so for the billionaires and c.e.o.'s the math becomes pretty simple if you kill unions it's over welcome to one party republican corporate rule. we have to amend the fourteenth amendment and insert that critical word natural before the word person because its absence in the last two hundred fifty years has mortally wounded our democracy it's
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time to x. listen to declare this word natural before the word person explicitly declare once and for all corporations are not people. and that's the big picture person i for more information you can visit our website at www dot com r t dot com also check out our youtube page of youtube dot com slash picture archie and don't forget the democracy begins when you get out there when you show up when you get active. your it will send money. down the official. called touch from the.
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