my old. street and the palm of your. very welcome this is are taken care of the russian capital with the twenty four hours a day top stories now miss out president obama is resurgent the u.s. could resort to military action in libya if bond instantly goes on the reports america's already also saudi's to arm the rebels and you can france is said to be dropping the u.n. resolution aimed at imposing a no fly zone in. the media reporting from libya was accused of blowing the rest out of proportion to get headlines the old son who's in control of different cities and the number of casualties from the country suggests the truth is still hidden from view. in the massive inflow of illegal immigrants from violence torn arab

countries feels and he was them sentiments in the european states taking them in germany's new interior minister has become the latest politician to enter the immigration debate he says his land does not belong in europe. i'll be back with another update in fifteen minutes from now meantime marty seventy seven knots are joined by two leading world affairs academics for the what the future holds for troubled labor and its neighbors and why foreign nations need to keep as our exclusive interview next. stephen cohen it's really good to have you back casuarina out there who are also good to see you again so stephen has come out with a new book out it's called the victims return survivors of the gulag. and that's

coming out in london next week but will still need to talk about what's going on in the middle east because some shaking is coming out and now it's being seriously discussed at the u.n. and u.s. could intervene in libya do you think are we seeing echoes of iraq here i think it's very different than iraq i think iraq was a moment when the united states in the name of democracy formed democracy by bringing democracy at the tip of a bayonet or with bombs and i think we're seeing the ripple effects of iraq in the region. i'm opposed to u.s. intervention i wish the united nations had more capacity to end violence and bloodshed in countries like libya but i think for the u.s. to intervene. would be gained because the countries in the region themselves it seems to me as we saw in egypt people in those countries need to take control of their own destiny and i have not followed libyan politics carefully but i think

we're at a tipping point in a country where the forces arrayed against gadhafi will in the next sure yeah i do think so you're seeing that so for the u.s. to intervene we create a backlash in the region that could harm the possibility of future democracy in a very unstable and important region being older than. i was from world war going to united states from zero every moment i mean in so many countries were large or very rarely worked out for. dreamy to the point. of. discredits alternative to the sort of natives being. appears the pride was overthrown with the backing of me and i'm staring in the forces of freedom and the best thing. we've seen. in addition what we're witnessing in egypt and. it's not clear who these are pro-democracy or which are these are. despotic

movements they want to get rid of a dictator getting rid of a dictator or we're going to be the country doesn't necessary to democracy that's a process in these countries very difficult where there is no will but mcready culture american intervention would make it harder one of the point. if intervention is necessary it should be a collective action of the united nations and this might not be a bad thing because the united nations was created in an effort to maintain thanks and if there were actual war and violence in terms of the populations so you're going to be a rich people who care about the future of these countries should insist that the solution at the united nations not in the white house and not at brussels or any board although how decisions are made toys are really a matter well good part of the problem in the countries we're watching in the middle east now is that the institutions of democracy have been so guarded and

attacked over the last decades by the despots in power that it will take generations to build those institutions but in the same way the u.s. relationship with these countries has been so heavily dependent on military and national security relations that it has distorted our relations and so we talk a good game in the united states of support for democracy but we've really been supporting stability and support of oil or in support of other measures so i think we need a new national security. policy or new thinking to use a term that was popular in this country in order to develop a relationship that would emphasize economic development which is going to be critical because so many of the protests in the region have to do with economic despair and joblessness and i think support for civic governance not the meddling but just actual changing relationships so it's away from military it's a more civil political play if you look at the situation generally what kind of lessons are in for what's going on right now in the arab world well i think the

lesson is that you're witnessing people who've been suppressed and recrossed for decades who are disgusted and fed up with the cronyism the corruption the suppression of not necessarily democracy but people's ability to lead their own lives and an anger about the joblessness but i do think the corruption the sense that these leaders were willing to put in their own sons and his family despotism. has led to something we rarely see in this world we saw we saw some of it in one nine hundred eighty nine in this part of the world but it's people rising up and seeking their own destiny it's never as simple as that but i do think that that's what we begin with and from there it will get very complicated i think in america i don't know about your country but there is a sense all you know democracy has card you know regime change is fairly common

these dictators have been ousted and what follows will be a measure of international support of non meddling of countries ability to come together and find the resources i come back again to economic development i really think that's going to be critical in this region because you have no eons of young people and that's how it started in tunisia it's like a new dominoes the young man who couldn't get a license and who was discussed by the corruption and lived in self up on fire and suddenly you have. witnessing this and then finally you have the ability to communicate the social networks are not to be treated lightly people were able to see if you could get rid of a dictator in one country it could happen part of the problem in the united states where we just come from as there are a lot of the westerns being drawn in the meaning of the war and of course we're going to see years of history it isn't and that would be a wrong turn maybe it's the first strip but it's a long journey that's for certain second people so this is the revolution as

a historian. i react badly to that generalization and egypt for example is going to the british english they're aware of the military regime to govern the country that's not a revolution it's called a regime change at the moment it's a real leader change i don't know what's going to happen i'm going to get him to. change we use the word revolution talk about their support for him so there's a lot of misperception going the other thing that's the warm of us in the united states i think is there and i just think should do something word to shepherd you know the support of shepherd like a farmer a guide since flock of sheep or it is cattle to work or the idea of the united states has to shepherd these countries it is of course far from god or incentives bradley country to make in order to make it an organization i was interested in the situation where there is a danger or would be american political involvement of europe which would be

a much i mean there are two things that have arisen in the united states in the last few days one is of course the renewal of democracy promotion it's idea that america has the right or the wisdom to impose democracy in other countries and you see a lot of this in the commentary president obama should bring democracy to egypt to bring democracy to tunisia that's not our role we need to get our own act together inside our country but also of course there's a concern that there will be more terrorist threats and danger in the. which is the feeling yes that the instability will fuel terrorist threats well you could argue the opposite that the repression of the possibility of democracy in these countries has given fuel to terrorists who have been mean have been angry and enraged over these last decades by the u.s. occupation and presence in these countries to a very tricky time i'm not even talking about the role of israel and their interests in the united states there's great lives israel and iran and also well

iran i think is in an interesting position because there is iran has become again as it was because of the failed iraq war and the more powerful in the region and i think or oil and other factors may make it even more powerful with israel in the united states you have a strong support for israel and a concern that it will lose allies the fact that you had the board as its main israel's main ally has caused many supporters of israel concerned i think you will see a region which is not going to be anti israeli but will not be as willing to support agreements that have been so inconsistent with the human rights of palestinians and so inconsistent with the rights of other countries arab countries and in the region that there is great concern among those who feel israel be threatened by the changes two years ago obama sought to reset relations with russia what humans are there to talk about so far world or achieve significance and there's nothing.

in a more quiet voice to mature or record from. more cooperation in afghanistan or one of them that there was going to be cooperation but i think it was an illusion the big achievement of course was the start treaty. your work inspire for i just written a long manuscript about this and i came to the conclusion that it was not only a good word it's very unstable because the. underlying disagreements created really a new cold war. really there is no fundamental agreement on the implications for example why was the reset even necessary why wasn't there a strategic partnership after the civil war the strategic partnership of corporate or for your grandfather created with reagan and bush that was watched after going to ninety one. the united states blames putin but that's not

a perfect organization there is no agreement on the secondly nato expansion is clearly a big issue and still think it's the biggest stumbling point between america and russia it's even bigger than people understand and i will tell you why the president of france but russia is a typo from a sphere of privileged interests in the former soviet republic security i think is a political act and we say no we ignite the states not me we say no because what countries are allowed to have a sphere of influence and it's an evil what is the expansion of nato it's an expansion of the american sphere of influence abashed expansion into the territory you should be the sphere of influence of soviet russia so monstrous system washington why did you get this for us and in our backyard and we know this is the big geo political conflict over time and there will be. now there is a solution but nobody is prepared to move forward in the united states. till this

problem is solved. there are going to be no partnership in your research but you know steve speaks as a scholar of russian the soviet union but he doesn't speak about the enormous opposition even this modest reset has confronted in the united states you had again a republican party which for decades has supported bipartisan arms control treaties and how many republicans did you finally get seven i think at the most so the resort is modest i agree with steve's analysis of the ongoing problems but the fact that it's. under fire in america is a failure of both the c.e.o. of the solitary city are sure this is one area where presidents both had some enormous power and. gorbachev and reagan world posed by their own parties but they overcame and made better things being attacked in moscow from the reset obama there but this is where leadership is required but don't forget these guys inherited this problem of nato expansion obama didn't expand nato he did not hear in this problem

it has to be resolved any one of the worst by the day remember the united states is still saying that georgia should become a member of nato and saakashvili is saying yes we want to know and the united states is even saying the ukraine crane should become a member of nato even though ukraine says it's not interested now these are fundamental conflicts i mean we already had one world with us in georgia and it could be another country and if i'm going who'll stephen cohen thank you very much for this interview.

we'll. bring you the latest in science and technology some of. the future coverage. top stories on our t.v. president obama has reasserted the u.s. could result to military action in libya if volunteers continue all reports america's already else the saudis to the rebels and u.k. and france is said to be crafting a new u.n. resolution opposing the no fly zone and. the media reporting from libya as accused of blowing be on rest out of proportion to good headlines conflicting reports on who's in control of different cities and the number of casualties in the country suggests the truth is still hidden from view. and the massive influx of illegal immigrants from falling still arab countries fuels muslim sentiments in the european states taking germany's new interior minister has become the latest

politician to enter the immigration debate he says does not belong in the. mornings for me and less than fifteen minutes from now in the meantime kate is here with the sports. hello not indisposed to the top stories lose time to time during this trial c five a true black group is leaving to freeze their flagging title defense pipes in the english premier league. while early exits leave on hall is set to leave german champions by munich at the end of the season a year before his contract speech works while. the last days off the regular season champions out on the guards complete the quarter final lineup of petrol play offs helped the rest of the action for the last sixteen. that's kick off his football and chelsea hope to boost their slim title defense hopes with a victory lap all this monday evening in the english premier league the fourth

place blues have travelled to the northwest twelve points adrift of leaders manchester united but with two games in hand and luis is fit despite a hamstring problem didier drogba and philander tori's both start against a tangerine side with the worst defensive record in the top flight however blackpool have already claimed several big stops this season to get all over the top i'm sorry over liverpool and piecing tottenham last time out it came and charlie adam and d.j. campbell are both suspended as ian holloway's team to record a first time win against chelsea for thought six years. running last sunday did not support the spurs haptic little four as the red sponge munchkin ninety three was on the field this one is going to be assists you can see the defenders in goal think that but with fungus on your cats a new simple idea and undescribed a scottish town consolation for the visitors else well steven fletcher grabbed a last gasp equalizers as mr green through the tunnel of the rushes like that ran on poverty next supposed to be in the second half. and

a quick look at the table ahead of the sunday's game shows how it used the license because my finances and i'm just three points ahead of god. you have a gaming time on two sides have to play each other at the emirates made the first plans to sit in a first and chelsea economy in a battle with tottenham for the last champions league spot so there's yet still have those two games in town and well at the bottom it's regular wolves and now the carling cup champions could be on the really relegation zone which we would see tonight and so that's a call at the moment with a new five points separating the bottom seven. family while robin van persie is a surprise selection in arsenal's champions league squad to baseball's alone on tuesday the dutchman held been expected to miss the last sixteen second leg tie having not played since injuring his knee in the carling cup final on friday the twenty seventh however than vs inclusion came as another boost a manager also vanga earliest and captain says fabregas was ninety percent likely

to be fierce after missing three games string injury us were gone as will be without injured alex song and theo walcott's asto looking to defend a two one first a victory out when he can't be just a draw them into the last eight meanwhile barcelona and missing face the story central defenders of captain colors gooey are absolutely injury gerard piqué suspended. after the new camp is seen taking place on tuesday in the us shocked out of that school has grown by three goals in the space of twelve first half minutes put in crane champions in control of the spine asleep in the second leg draw would take them through to the last day for the first time which might feel likely shan't ask other beatnik that don't bust the arena since moving their income because two thousand and nine. and meanwhile coach leon hall is set to leave reigning german champions by a new nick at the end of the season one year before his contract was due to expire this decision follows a size exit from the german and slumped to fifth in the bundesliga following

saturday story one last time no go by i thought behind the sixteenth minute and have it absolutely is again rushed across the more pressure. van hall was sitting stony faced in the seats behind and things were to get much worse for the very inside and the touch on the head of naria guy must get to know in the fifty first minute. i was just the minnesota i and robin gave this to some hope he connected is trying to reverse course i thought of the mistake by goalkeeper thomas croft helped restore not i was to god advantage in the sixty second minute surgery i can take credit to go so if we want a hand i would find a sport biased third successive defeat that started to take the high side further cemented circulates. the to us and

a quick look at the table confirms biden fears nineteen points adrift of leaders to proceed development on how his life castle and i x. out of the netherlands joined by last season and took the club to a domestically in cup double or steering them to the champions league final stay last winter one but as well as slipping just if they also crashed out to sharpen a jam cup semifinals earlier this month on how well dive his side through the remainder of their child is a campaign they won the first leg of their last sixteen trashing in school and one will impose the something like on march the fifteenth and as yet it seems they could ensure prospects for the fifty nine year old has been and. this is this is i didn't show you that a decision has to make that which i have to reveal a very difficult decision for the board i know that too it's not easy to keep on holland's off and we followed van home that is a very difficult question to the evolution. of ice hockey now and regular season

champions are going ot steal the last spot in the conference semifinals of the kontinental hockey league after winning their deciding game with mr human seventy three it like it was going to mean even if their early on other guards were also. the times in. mexico right now want the second going however in case in the first period he goes. down but it was the other guards after that and some other jogging i did a great distance to. tell you got a late penalty in the. hispanic consolation but it was alan god who progressed into the last eight. weeks of them they're all misled by mr gorst the two were plagiarizer on wednesday in gave one of another best of seven series that you have the right match up in the second and third saluting is the least and the others might see signs of ending champions as possible face up against the former powerhouse solid fuel i have both teams are yet to lose during this proceeding

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