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that. would. worry. my. camillo to show where we get the real headlines with none of the mercy or can live out of washington d.c. now tomorrow marks the start of peter king's radicalization of muslims hearings on capitol hill but today we're going to look into king's past and his support for a terrorist organization then all eyes are on n.p.r. for the public radio station has become the center of attention for all the wrong reasons and we want to know about the money issue should n.p.r. stop receiving federal funding have a debate then the list is out giving out the who's who of billionaires we'll have
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details on who made the forbes list and how it's a huge sign of the disparity between social classes only continues to grow then deaths are on the rise in afghanistan as a u.n. report states the last year was the deadliest for afghan civilians find out how this plays into our strategy of winning hearts and minds and is the d.d.a. playing politics when it comes to marijuana we'll tell you about a move by the feds that would benefit big pharmaceutical companies while keeping all other marijuana users hanging out to dry details on all that and more but first let's move on to our top story. republican peter king has no problem sharing his views on the dangers of muslims in america and tomorrow he takes his warren is long to capitol hill where he'll begin hearings to investigate the radicalization of muslims now king the chairman of the house homeland security committee says that it's all for the purpose of protecting america and many activists say that this
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investigation is nothing but a new version of mccarthyism artie's kalen for house the story. up a decade ago during america's second red scare this was the accusation to answer. rather than the former today it's this one muslim leaders are not doing enough to cooperate with law enforcement there's actually been instances of construct being with people in their mosques not to cooperate with law enforcement accusations. of disloyalty subversion treason made not by some planned it you're a wonder of radical islam office like the neighborhood you live in an artery operates or. a by the chairman of the congressional homeland security committee republican pete king who is launching his highly publicized hearings on the radicalization of muslims in america we know how evil was enemy is and we have to confront of. it's a principle or muslims when we don't figure out islamic terrorists it's almost as
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if we're afraid to insult muslims because we're targeting terrorists but king business is the critics who say the hearings unfairly single out muslims. these cruises mysteriously and perfidious kneejerk liberal left wing reaction because of the politically correct establishment is quite criticism from the right and the laughs at the mere announcement of the hearings king says he won't back down begin to name those names we're going to have expert witnesses and with through what we have to do which worries critics like history professor alan strucker we've always had our scapegoats today it's muslims in the one nine hundred fifty s. it was communists they say the congressman from new york is following in the footsteps of the senator from wisconsin joseph mccarthy focusing on people's associations in this case religious rather than political but calling them.
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in public and exposing them to some kind of sanctions whether it's just e-mails where there is dismissals a workplace sanctions a man abdul ali musette so that despite muslim leaders cooperation with the f.b.i. they're continuously viewed as the enemy especially since the end of the cold war the worse thrives on warner bros i want conflict. therefore. so we. the new carmen and according to a department of homeland security study islamic extremists are seen as a threat in thirty one states while neo nazi and white supremacist cells groups left out of king's homeland security hearings are seen as a threat in all but four when we talk about terrorism in the united states what who've been the terrorists you know some poor pathetic not in arizona
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timothy mcveigh in oklahoma city these are the people who are killing americans no . most of the critics on the right and the left the echoes of mccarthyism are troubling last month can also introduce this see something say something designed to prevent citizens from lawsuits when they report suspicious activity but critics say it amounts to little more than informing on each other much as they did during mccarthyism and the cold war keelan ford r. t. washington d.c. . tomorrow peter king's muslim radicalization hearings begin on capitol hill but today let's take a moment to look at this man's own background when it comes to supporting so-called terrorists king was a fervent supporter of the ira also considered a terrorist group and in one nine hundred eighty two he said we must pledge ourselves to support those brave men and women who this very moment are carrying forth the struggle against british imperialism and the streets of belfast and their
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three years later he said if civilians are killed in an attack on a military installation it is certainly regrettable but i will not morally blame the ira for it but if civilians are killed and injured heart attack is he going to morally blame the american muslim community for us perhaps peter king is lucky that no one ever held hearings on american ira sympathisers now there are a lot of questions as to whether this man considering his past should be heading the homeland security committee and about who we deem to be a word. the terrorist are one worth investigating versus those who we choose to support here this mess with me is matthew national security and there at the center for american progress thanks so much for being here tonight first of all walk us through exactly how fervent of a supporter of the ira i was thinking this past was you you just said you just do some quotes from him he was a real supporter a very vocal supporter but opponent of a british presence in ireland and a supporter of terrorism attacks as you just said attacks that killed civilians
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including american civilians so he's he's down with them he totally agrees with their cause will still say it to this day but you know can you imagine what if there have been hearings i cannot say on you know sympathizers with the are a would with the ira we can be locked up in jail probably to this day as we speak it's a good question but i think it really goes to the way in which especially since nine eleven this term terrorism has become a political weapon it's often thrown around as if once you declare someone to be a terrorist that's all you need to know there's no reason to really understand what's motivating them or what kind of generates their decision to take to become a terrorist it's just this kind of catch all for people who we don't like criminals we don't like but can't you also say perhaps a terrorist is someone that wants to inflict harm on civilians right these are people that want to do damage so is there really such a difference if you are an i remember and you want to bomb or do something you know
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that might kills innocent civilians versus being a jihadi terrorist that might perhaps kill civilians right i mean the generally understood definition of terrorism is the use of force or threat of force against the civilian population to achieve a political goal so clearly be irate falls under that definition as well all these other organizations are kind of that we use that term against but as peter king seems to believe that causes he believes that it's ok and that's the real distinction as far as i mean. but why was that ok as a whole if you say on the american frontier why aren't there hearings about this because we have such a large irish population in america itself and chris matthews was saying yesterday if that was done forty years ago it would have been called the program right i think it was probably a little bit too strong a term i think i think what you just said i mean there is a large and very vocal and active irish american community in this country and they were often at odds over this but there was
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a sizable portion of that community that supported because of the r.a. that supported the irish cause of getting the british out of ireland and we're seeing something very different in the muslim american community right now is that these are people who have them they don't have the kind of political voice in the political muscle right now not yet but the irish americans did and the debate in many ways looks very different than the paid over over irish terrorism did in the eighty's and do you think that considering peter king's history and his past he should be in the position that he's in now chairing the summer and security committee well i think he probably shouldn't be in this position just because he's made such a circus of this whole thing he said very very offensive and i think it unfair things about american muslims he said there's too many mosques in the united states i don't know what to me is i think we've seen a very recent study that shows people who are more active in their mosques are actually more active in the american political system but i think one lesson that shouldn't be lost from peter king's relationship and support for the ira is the
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importance of bringing terrorist groups into the political process now i think would be a real shame if that lesson was lost eventually there were contacts made peter king himself played a role in making those contacts between elements of the ira it were ready to negotiate and coming to an agreement and in the violence now it doesn't seem like he's someone who is at all sympathetic to that sort of position in relation you know in relation to muslim terrorists and i think that's a real shame so you mean working with the american muslim community trying to help these people you know tell them that you're. interested in working with them they want to cooperate you know making them want to of course work with the out thirty's instead of holding hearings on capitol hill but i think i would i would refer to the importance of talking to terrorist groups more as you know some groups like hamas and hezbollah these groups that we just refuse to talk to and if you even raise the idea of talking to them and bringing to them into a political process then you're kind of that's kind of out of bounds of the american political process in relation to the american muslim community i think it's very different we've already seen great cooperation notwithstanding what peter
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king himself claims he claims that they're not helping enough i think there was a report from the triangle center at duke university which showed that over a third of arrests post nine eleven. terrorist arrests have come from tips from the muslim american community they are engaged they are there doing what they need to do but it's important you know not to target this community because that will only lead to greater alienation and frankly greater radicalization and really quickly you brought up the report that said that actually being a member of a mosque being a member of any kind of church leads to more so they can gauge and you can give more details in that report you know these were two scholars this was one scholar out of the university of chicago i believe another from harvard who did begin study of its kind of the american muslim community and it showed that greater engagement in mosques and greater religiosity attract with greater belief in american democracy greater engagement of the american political process and this is a real it's a rebuttal and i think a decisive proposal to the claims of people like osama bin laden and other extremists who claim their true islam is incompatible with them obviously in
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american civic life it shows that these people who are conservative very committed religious muslims are the most engaged in american politics in american democracy and matter i thank you very much for joining us and of course tomorrow the hearings begin and we will definitely be covering the banks. now take the story one step further remember that peter king is a congressman meaning that he represents the people of new york which also includes a large muslim population and to add more irony to the issue muslims from his district. claim that cain use an embrace their community that is up until the attacks on nine eleven so why the drastic change parties bring up our night takes a closer look at the two faces of this new york congressman on. friday. a familiar sound of worship echoes from the islamic center of long island. oh it's a place of prayer education and community service for many of long island's seventy
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thousand muslims and it's also a place where u.s. congressman peter king spent years building bridges with american voters. supporters who today remain shocked that kenya labeled their mosque a hotbed for extremism that should be put under surveillance to have happened and how good or bad things also and we have been to his office many times what about if we needed a bit. how people ahmed is chairman of the long island center that sits just outside the boundaries of king's third congressional district amid fears the man he once fundraise for make currently be the strongest force fueling the flames of islamophobia in america safety and security of my community is my biggest concern and trying to create trouble with that is. why i would be doing these things during his early days as congressman king was often seen at the islamic center on long
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island giving lectures holding book signings even serving as the main guest of honor when the fair officially open officials say since september eleventh two thousand and one the u.s. representative has not stepped one foot inside this building the islamic center unanimously condemned the event but king cut ties with the institution after two officials were quoted in nine muslim involvement and linking israel to nine eleven to. the united states instead peter king recently appointed chairman of the powerful house homeland security committee has announced congressional hearings on a legit hit in radicalism among american muslims and mosques. a drastic turn that has brought fear to king's constituents generalize. and draw allies in a very bad way and in a way that will not serve. the american well for
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even outside of that states it has very disturbing to us especially when the formulation of muslim population in the long island community is growing substantially they're looking for support. congressman king has said that most muslim leaders in this country aren't cooperating with authorities yet no member of this long island islamic center has ever been accused of terrorism. and muslim americans in this community are appalled that their very own u.s. representative is targeting them based on their religious beliefs their extremists in every every community every religion i mean you know why just islam what does he have to gain from it either a personal vendetta or maybe something to gain in the politics there's a lot of fear people are really angry and shows this to because the burden
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falls on our shoulders to really explain the experience for free in a country of tolerance a new york community left feeling isolated and marginalized by the man they once rallied behind. archie new york. so to come on tonight's show n.p.r. under fire again it shows he wants finding holes in the network after an executive calls the tea party racist whole debate whether or not taxpayer money should be used for n.p.r. and other media outlets interest in the. him or her broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture a. new
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website with twenty four seven live streaming news times what to do about it ongoing financial hardship unlimited free high quality videos for download. in stories you never sign on mainstream news. and so the legal political. posts in more on our team just watched that. actress lindsay low and back in the tales told the rachel that is when it was nothing people are suggesting she's told her no she says she's a learned star. led
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. the lead. lead. the lead. he wears tonight i bring you the latest news that has islamophobia all over america in quite a tizzy you know the network al-jazeera the arabic channel that also has an english channel right here in the u.s. well rumor has it that they're working on a new project and this one is geared towards kids that's right it's going to be the al-jazeera kids channel and people are already up in arms about programs that
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they're going to be airing and we actually have a clip of one of those shows so it's to be about the crusades we're told from the perspective of a muslim warrior. and i have. to go. ok so that show just looked like something you might see on a p.b.s. kids program but surely they've got many many more shows relating to muslims portraying them as normal kind human beings comic i mean what is this world coming to first they try to portray muslims as normal people then what's next talk about the qur'an and on top of that al-jazeera is already becoming popular in america thanks to its thorough coverage of events like the egyptian revolution and how it's got the credit america people are probably going to come out saying that this network is
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a good way to expose children to various cultures all over the world like is long and i'm sorry i've got to take a break obviously i'm getting really worked up over this but all joking aside the children's network is set to debut at the end of two thousand and twelve and it's going to be offering up original programming as well as other shows dubbed into english and aside from the conservatives that are freaking out about this news i saw this channel might help children gain more open minded view of the world like the slogan says the more you know the better off you are. now this week james o'keefe the now notorious prankster who took on acorn struck again with n.p.r. it's video of ron schiller the then fundraiser for n.p.r. who has since resigned went viral. this. story takes time thank you. i fully. expect. white.
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america. stares. thank you. i'll say n.p.r. president vivian schiller resigned after reportedly being pushed out by the board of directors and this all comes at a time when the republican led congress is actively pushing the cut n.p.r.'s on the next ask is n.p.r. a liberal elitist now peace that all taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for or doesn't even really matter is this just a larger push by the g.o.p. to take down everything associated with the other party and its issues join me to discuss it as benjy sarlin capitol hill reporter for talking points memo and christopher the president of the young conservative coalition gentlemen thank you both for joining me tonight first of all what do you think of this move by n.p.r. with a wise decision are they showing to everyone that they do have i think they're not exactly p.r.
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geniuses i mean this whole thing was kind of a bit of a stumble at the gate first they said they were appalled by the comments then they put the two people in the video and i'm going to straight to believe then the c.e.o. resigned very unexpectedly and suddenly i mean all this is very very defensive crouch throughout throughout this whole thing do you think they're clearly on the defense here chris i think they definitely are a well deserved to be on the defense for the type of things to show or said in the video there i think there is claimed to be upset about but what is there to be upset about the. but there is one person who no longer works something organization that may have expressed these he was which were his personal opinion you know i had a how does that necessarily make you have to be angry with everything to n.p.r.'s well i think you have to look at from an overall picture that presently p.b.s. n.p.r. there's a predominately liberal bias in there and that network i look at it presently america has three primary news networks about a dozen cable news networks we have a fourteen trillion dollar deficit the american taxpayer still needs to foot the
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bill for your i just think at a time when you know only two percent of the funding comes from the federal government you can run shows himself we don't even need it i mean we can survive without it and you know even agrees with that to president obama's bipartisan deficit commission and even stated that they should eliminate the funding it would save the taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars but here you've opened up what i don't quite understand is your problem with the fact that n.p.r. is taking federal money or is your problem with the fact that you think n.p.r. has a liberal bias well i think the better i think the better question to ask is why. i'm not asking this question that's right no answer my question first and you can tell me i think i think if you should ask the federal government why are they going to be predominantly partisan organizations like planned parenthood or acorn i think that's a better question and i don't want my tax money going to pay for those type of organizations and saying it's silly to characterize them as partisan though i mean n.p.r. is just not it just isn't partisan but it's a very specific definition usually would only be applied to the most extreme cases
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fox news on the right to a lesser degree but still probably you can make an argument m.s.m. d.c. on the left is growing more that way n.p.r. as you saw from this incident actually is very takes very seriously this idea that people say they're biased if you notice when there's anything even hinting in that direction they need only fire everyone the c.e.o. steps down that's because unlike other networks they really value that their neutrality in these issues they take it seriously i mean i think n.p.r. n.p.r. has a slight left leaning to wait. i'm not going to deny that at all but the fact that acorn and planned parenthood are now considered democratic parties in the left leaning organizations i never knew that providing you know health services for a lot of people out there so they can get cancer screenings h.i.b. test other as t.v. says has anything to do with one political party you're a part of i guess i don't think there's anything wrong with a news organization reporting the news the way they want i just don't want the federal government and i agree with ben i mean what happened there they do take
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steps but at the same time they don't need federal funding in two thousand and eleven so if they want to be a no an organization that takes money from wherever and wherever they want that's just not on the american taxpayers' dime so many think that n.p.r. should shouldn't take taxpayer money anymore well they've obviously said in this video that they could survive without it but there's the n.p.r. fight is in many ways symbolic though i mean you're absolutely right we're at this period where america is really debating serious spending cuts and there's a lot of debate on both parties about what's best to cut so to immediately go out and target like you said planned parenthood n.p.r. these are these things which actually don't amount to a lot of money at all in the grander scheme and we're talking about one point seven trillion dollar deficit this is small potatoes they're really just there mostly to poke at democrats you know in the eye and say like look we can pull you out of some of your you know things that are traditionally these kind of culture war battles and you know if they were serious about cutting spending margaret you and buy the new republican led house to get rid of these democratic organizations as you like
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to call well they're not democratic they're just the kind of thing i mean is this an easy chris is a statement here but i mean there is this larger idea that you know they're trying to get you to finally be in this position where they're back in control of one chamber of congress and they get to finally pay back their supporters who really don't like a lot of these groups and say look we're going after things you hate so i mean i don't think it's very productive in terms of actually bringing down the deficit but it certainly is productive for the. politically how how is this productive towards bringing down the deficit why retargeting perhaps bigger issues bigger programs where a lot more money is spent well i agree the biggest thing that we need to tackle is inside of a reform which is about two thirds of the budget but ben makes a point you know a lot of people just a small little percent here a little percent there that is the federal government funding thousands of projects here all these little projects add up to eventually now with fourteen trillion dollar deficit so we have to start looking at these programs and have to start
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making some hard decisions what does america need what can we live without in two thousand and eleven if we don't need another cable news station nothing against the arts you can they're wonderful news station but i'm saying we don't need a federal government funded you're not paying for it i don't have it. ben what do you think you know does is n.p.r. something that serves of vital role does that actually benefit americans and i think you know when you have opposition like fox news out there which does this information if you are if you look at some of these polls right fox viewers think that there were w m d's in iraq five spewers think that sharia law is creeping up on america and that all muslims want to somehow instate it i think you need something like n.p.r. to count very well the argument from advocates is that n.p.r. maybe not as a counter to fox news say but at the very least giving reason you know they are doing as a nonprofit in your funding from a variety of sources does give them a certain kind of independence they don't go for the most sensational thing they don't have to go for things that might offend advertisers the same way as other
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networks might have issues so there's no doubt they're doing very high quality stuff too i mean i think few people would deny whether or not you're alleging bias but the level of reporting they're doing is really in terms of radio reporting and matched i mean these are truly some of the best programming out there in the country the last word i would counter your argument by stating that fox news does have some competition it's called. c.b.s. and b.s. and m.s.m. you see c.n.n. and all the other liberal. stations that are out there so it's a little faux news fighting against the entire world to be a very tiny community but you got me a break i said a lot of it it's about the model though it's about those are all the same model of advertising driven in their very much for profit and it colors the coverage in a lot of things it's nice having space for p.b.s. n.p.r. something that could maybe take a step back and focus on where is there coverage that people are missing out on may not bring is in as much as i balls or as much advertising dollars but it's valuable
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coverage there are you guys i want to thank you both for joining me very much i'll see where this goes but i bet that there's a more you know right leaning version of n.p.r. republicans will not be trying to defund it ok come on tonight's show because he loves his country so much he can get on his rights one of the politicians trying to make that hilarious argument in tonight's poll a time of war and civilian deaths in afghanistan are on the rise tonight we're asking how can the u.s. win the hearts and minds of the afghan people when they're the ones paying the ultimate price i cannot. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through a sort of you've made me who can you trust no one who is you know if you with global machinery see where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called sections when nobody dares to.

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