maybe a disaster at the web site that released this information on bill gross is holding on tempos holding say it's time to panic is bill gross believe that this means get out of stocks and bonds and securities it's going to be trouble if there's no q e three and i mean that's the worst case scenario they say time to panic all right archie financial correspondent laura lister joining us from the financial capital of the world new york of course and that is going to do it for now for more on the stories we cover or go to our team dot com slash usa i'm christine for south thanks so much for watching. her brought her here. we here because of our passion that. god promised them this is the land belongs to.

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imax ties are and this is the kaiser report once again coming to you from cairo egypt the global insurrection against banker occupation continues multifaceted conflict between oligarchs and bankers versus the people in cities from cairo to ohio and of course over a skyrocketing because that's the currency of the revolution as sober prices go higher j.p. morgan stock goes lower and then tire franchise is threatened with extinction as the price of silver crushes the silver shorts because of you lying silver out there in the millions and millions of ounces one ounce at a time let's bring in stacy herbert stacey stacey stacey another thing driving

silver higher of course max is a day of rage happening in saudi arabia continuing revolution in egypt we were here for tyra's square we went through there and just so you can see from these images that it was a very friendly festive atmosphere and felt very safe we were only one of the two rest areas in the square well if again the narrative is completely busted but what we're told through western media principly murdoch and fox news is that there is an anti-american sentiment here which there absolutely is not there's a desire to be free from the yoke of tyranny and that's the same whether it's in wisconsin or cairo. got corrupt bankers who are destroying the global economy people want to get out well you mention tyranny and. the financial system is we are linking all these revolutions across the arab world revolution in wisconsin to the banking system i went to take

a look at this interview from bloomberg television this past week and this is larry thank you had black rock at the three point five trillion dollar font and look what he thinks about what's going on throughout the arab world i want to ask you about the big picture question for to start off with if you look around the world what we see right global wave of social unrest democratization of information it plays a big role in that twitter facebook one hundred dollar oil the deepening deficit the state's moving to fight public employee unions it balances currency issues lingering crisis in europe what is in a lot of confusion. uncertainty markets don't like uncertainty markets like actually to tell you terry and governments where you have a understanding of what's out there and obviously we're the whole dimension is changing now with as you said a democratization of the countries and an democracies are very messy as we know in the united states you have opinions changing back and forth there's larry i think

he's up blackrock which of course is a subsidized entity by the u.s. government the taxpayer bailout all the players of black rock and their yacht payments they're not competitive in a sense they work for a living they just steal their larcenous tyrant and he's just plowing people over with impunity because you know that they know they own all the judges they own the legal system and he can just beat rape and kill people in public without any recourse whatsoever from any legal entity want to ever that that's a club talk or see and it's the same in america as it isn't any the same is cairo the same in wisconsin everyone needs threefold against with guys like larry thank larry thank you one hundred years ago would be marching toward the cross the concord i was way to getting and rightly. but this is the sort of mentality max that we're seeing throughout the rye where they're trying to squash these revolutions they don't want people to be free because they prefer to tallaght arion ism so to americans who think they are free these are the same guys that control your economy do they do you think they really are allowing you to be democratic and

free i think not oh yeah the key phrase is there he says americans prefer to tell terry as he says the markets prefer to tally tearing at them in america claims it's a market economy when these men refer to markets this is what they're referring to not free markets as the theory goes and that's what's great about the price of silver is that it has been monopolized by people who have been manipulating the price of the futures markets and all the callbacks and the reason it's going higher now is because people are breaking free from the chains of the larry franks style totalitarian monopolisation and it will go to three hundred forty or five hundred dollars and these guys like larry frank will go out of business so let's look at another headline showing that bankers prefer dictatorships revealed layers secret calls to khadafi it turns out that tony blair has always said he never had any commercial relationship with anyone in the gadhafi family or the libyan government but since leaving office he is understood to have travelled to tripoli on business

for the u.s. bank j.p. morgan chase where he lives tony blair of course in the lead up to the iraq war they cooked up the intelligence colin powell showed that little vial of talcum powder and said we got to go kill a million iraqis blair was part of that he's got blood on his hands he was part of the attackers who j.p. morgan killed people for money for blood and he and larry fink are in the same kind of corrupt both ok and he works for j.p. morgan chase the day he got out of office at ten downing street he jumped into g.p. morgan chase they hired him for two million dollars per year. which came first the chicken or the egg was blair working for j.p. morgan before he left and that's true barry letts in downing street on that question. to barack obama is he working for j.p. morgan now or is going to take his job when he leaves the white house and he doesn't want to stay for a second term because you'd rather jump right in there and work with j.p. morgan and tony blair cashed out the white house just to resume burnishing exercise for obama he's working for j.p. morgan right now scott walker wisconsin governor he's working for the koch brothers

right now he's a time right now they're working right now with the enemy they're selling people out all over the world and this is intolerable and the people in cairo have a going to have to stand up to it and people with concert ohio illinois are still so you know wondering should we do a larry thing says to live in a concentration camp or larry fink to live in a reservation for larry fink they don't know what the problem so speaking of tony blair i have a headline here with tony blair kind of guy somebody who would fit in writing connaught square where all the other arms dealers and mass murderers of the world live and hide their wealth from their own nations the man who plowed into a group of bikers is a brazilian central banker and he's charged with attempted murder so you see this video here max this is a critical mass demonstration in porto alegre brazil and as you see that car barreling through the population of bicyclists there are knocking over eight or nine of them well that's a central banker me and richard nice but. again just pure class going people

with impunity another banker a terrorist and you know the the the search for the terrorism should be a simple one go down to wall street to the offices of goldman morgan go to the city of london in london and start arresting people the fact that you don't barack obama the rest of you guys means that you are terrorists effectively you support terrorism you're stealing all of the money and you're asking people who live with austerity measures to pay for your bonuses how is it different poll pot or stalin or hitler is not just the same for a config well this man is in psychiatric care and that qualifies him to be a money manager well yes and it his excuse was. i'm in a hurry well yes he's in a hurry to the fraud people that's why the people in the streets let's move on because these guys days are numbered as silver continues to go higher they don't own any silver the central bankers don't own any gold they don't own any silver they're going to buy it three four five dollars an ounce we're going to be buying

it from us because we were going to be ruling the global economy will have all the silver they're going to be trying to live on currency and buying a loaf of bread for five trillion dollars which was the exchange rate you know why more republican if you remember one for one for one to wonder five trillion to one and this is where we're headed because these guys are essentially pathological liars and crooks well speaking of pathological liars and crooks state security apparatus here in egypt there are five hundred thousand policemen who operated on behalf of mubarak and his cronies and american crew nice plundering and defrauding and torturing the population here's a tweet from wiki leaks past day in egypt storm secret service so we've been here while they've been storming the state security buildings and headquarters throughout cairo and alexandria and other locations the state security apparatus has been busy shredding paper trying to hide the evidence and it looks very similar to scenes post world war two nazi germany they also try to hide all their evidence

of of crimes against humanity and you see that going on now in egypt or iran exactly that's exactly those are my thoughts exactly max i mean it's clear it's worked for him and it's work primarily in blair estimated war crimes in a number of different levels and murdoch is a little stepchild as has been assisting him and he survives the last twenty five billion of us wall street journal investment he lost billions of his my space investment it wasn't for a guaranteed stable not least burbank what's his name or barack murdoch would be selling hot dogs shea stadium well you mentioned the koch brothers involvement with governor scott walker of wisconsin anonymous actively probing koch brothers. corporate networks so in a statement anonymous accuses the koch brothers of fabricating grassroots organizations and advertising campaigns to sway voters based on their false the statement concludes anonymous hears the voice of the downtrodden american people whose rights and liberties are being systematically removed one by one even when

their own government refuses to listen or were complicit in these attacks well don imus is filling in for the rule of law which is absent in america well exactly so they have the same ability and the virtual space to do what the egyptians are now doing storming the state security buildings and headquarters and having to get the physical pieces of paper and videotapes of movie stars apparently and powerful people from the gulf and other regions they have video tapes of them in compromising positions and so now anonymous can do this just virtually go into the database and server the amazing part of this global insurrection against banker occupation is the multiplicity of levels that occupies simultaneously the virtual level the end of the analog or physical level to people in the streets again anonymous working anonymously in cyberspace you've got groups like you. in other cities around the world pushing back against the occupation of bankers and working

dovetailing together and this is the wars we've been talking about for years now the ultimate distinction the dividing line in this war is savers versus speculators and i'm going to get into that right now but keep in mind for future shows just continue please and probably max i have this headline this is a revolution not a football match and max this is referring to the protests square and in china they banned all google searches for egypt or tyrus square and yet however within days they were making all of these. available interest square all the various knick knacks for sale this is showing christian and muslim together united yeah well it's a dangerous game china is playing they're trying to cash revolutions in egypt while simultaneously oppressing their own people that sounds like an unsustainable arbitrage of bad faith over there in china you might want to decide what side you

want to be or get and squeeze in the middle and forever hold your own yeah but you also have to ask why the egyptians weren't just making them themselves why they weren't making these t. shirts and freedom pendants and flags and all the stuff that were available in tahrir square when we were there why they weren't making themselves why they were bringing them in from china because it got under big brother chinese or everyone after all over the world making business everywhere but supporting human rights abuses at home and this is the model that of course america wants to emulate they want the casino gulag model as we see in china and they don't want freedom as we see in cairo and join a strong straddle the two and the people are now going to decide which way they want to go and i think judging by my interactions with folks here in cairo the mood right now is to go toward open free democratic kind of almost like a summer of love type of thing it's all getting jiggy right here cairo so you see her thanks so much for being on the cars the reports thank you max don't go away

coming away much more so stay there. the. welcome back to the kaiser report joining me now in the studio when

a hollow plane is managing editor of al mauser a oh you're an english by saying that correctly that's right welcome to the kaiser report thank you alright lena tell us about the january twenty fifth revolution here and cairo what ignited the revolution i do not like to name certain events in the vicinity of generated twenty fifth to say that this is certainly you what ignited it because i think that the lead up to generate twenty fifth goes back to as far as the already two thousand when there was a serious of protests and the politics that play moved by a lot of things both on the region and leverage and the domestic level so we've got the two thousand and three a war demonstration and we've got the two thousand and five first the mess take the demonstrations that go out to the street and say down with mubarak

and then you've got a lot of independent things happening such as the neighbor protests you've got also over and such as the judges and then the movement and then generally twenty fifth happens there could be things that sparked. the massive outbreak of protests and you know modernization on january twenty fifth but such as in spirit. when was the can you share information which is next door such as increasing. awareness about police brutality ok so that the pot was stirring was boiling this year exactly plus this or where of the police brutality you mention this word awareness and of course what was happening in sydney is it was tipped off a large extent the revelations that were made the wiki leaks were you aware of those leaks revelations and is that part of the equation yeah i mean we're all aware of them by the future of being journalists and they. took

a lot of very tension although they were in a matter of a lot of public attention to be honest with you they were great serious journalists but they didn't have much to be heeded in terms of things that he didn't know they where they acted more as corroborative evidence things that he already knew in egypt of course journalism journalists were not not free just before this revolution so anybody who hears something coming from a journalist and i have to assume it's coming from the state so there's not wide dissemination of this information whereas wiki leaks is independent source they seem to they're verify so it helps you to get your message out because you had a third party verification more or less with this huge internet audience is that a fair kind of a fair statement to make about wiki leaks yes it's just what you did or what's consistent is that you think this had on people because at this point you know you don't need anymore it can wait for the state to give you the information the

practice speaks for itself on this or let's go back to the president's events that happened the april sixth youth movement. who are they how do they harness the power to organize themselves tell us about that because it seems to be a key event in the history of this definitely april sixth group that is today. lead and run by young people young activists people who've been involved in again in the state politics even before two thousand and eight however in two thousand and eight they mean in the sixth of april of two thousand and eight they made a call for civil disobedience and that was because incited a tea with a thriving labor movement in in the that the city of. which happened to hosts one of the biggest weaving factories in the country and which happened to be a site of labor activism for years and for their kids in fact. six movement

launched a call. for civil disobedience and the facebook group happened to draw a lot of attention from different people now not all those who signed on the group saying that they would you know be striking on the day in back in two thousand and eight did they do it however the cause. may have some resonance in terms of you know calling people out of the empathy and and making them feel that there is a possibility for an alternative of a reality what about the role of women overall in this in this revolution the same as a woman on the streets or in cairo many women i'd say almost half of the people on the street are women you see a lot of families during the time here square friday gathering it's almost a carnival like stressed of family outing people are there to celebrate already the anniversary of their labor liberation and so the role of women in the revolution

out of what how do you see that well i think the role of women transcends that of festivities on fridays. i think women had a very central role in this revolution since its very early days even in its most difficult days there were out on the streets on the square but in other areas in egypt where very active in this trip. they were. side by side with the men in hating tear gas and you know being out there under the police attack in the face these of their mission but also. supporting the continue the continuation of this revolution by sleeping out on the square by sometimes compromising their security just as the men did although i think the sense of funding ability was higher amongst women however they compromise all that and where on the streets is bay one . hundred missions so it was quite inspiring a lot of people say that actually women started this revolution but what's wrong

with that state again i don't i can't point to one group of people anyways regardless of the gender or religion or or whatever and say they started so there would be i mean a bunch of young people started this revolution was with all the goodness that this . carries so i would say that ok in the past few days we've seen protesters storming the state security buildings tell us about this what was the role of state security in the mubarak dictatorship of course as an american we're aware of this as the destination for the extraordinary rendition flights that come out of guantanamo bay and even out of the streets of america they end up in these torture cells in these areas tell us about what these are in these and what's going on there yeah yeah exactly it's the conversion of something that. a western democracy cannot handle and so it is they are. off to

a church so the u.s. outsources their torture to decide exactly and there's a few of them in egypt there's one right here in cairo yeah there are two big ones in cairo but you know plenty of state security centers around the country throughout the country so the americans say we don't torture they mean we outsource our torture exact same way as they say they outsource their manufacturing to china to be outsourced or. torture to egypt yeah tony blair and the rest of the gang seems to really be exposed in this revolution especially in libya as being a one of the architects of some of these war crimes yeah now we're looking at footage of protesters gathering all the evidence all the paperwork looking at the stuff that you found anything juicy any evidence of anything i don't think the documents that were found yesterday was there yesterday i don't think that the history found yesterday were particularly revealing and as much as they where a person of size of activists trying to lists. but it's another we can mix moment

whereby you know all of this stuff but you now have a corroborative evidence that people have fired for every single person they have a very long transcriptions of phone conversations between activists so it makes you feel like they had a lot of resources and a lot of money. and they lived over the lot of fear in order to waste all the time you know transcribing one hour long phone conversations between activists that say it's really nothing if it was anything because of the frigidity of. it was just like when the berlin wall came down and they went into the stasi they found all the files and this is a sort of this is america egyptian stasi basically and of course america is doing the same thing in the u.s. now with the american citizens which is which is that ok let's let's touch on mubarak here for a second is billions of dollars any idea where they are is there any hope of getting them back but i wish i knew where they are i would have an investor in this country but as of now i can tell you that. there is

a vested interest. to pursue a proper and proper court case in order to investigate potential corruption of the ruling family and we hope that the cash comes back and there is a redistribution of wealth at some point but it's quite a bank. at this point how long this process would be and how easy it would be given the extensive. network of power this president has for over thirty years now finally the mainstream us media paints the revolution in egypt as one radical islamicist and anti american fervor now i've been in the streets there for several days and i've experienced exact opposite people like oh you're from america i love i love america i mean it seems first of all. i guess my first question is don't people the streets realize that loving america maybe is not

a great idea considering that america propped up mubarak i mean did they make the connection there i don't think there was much worrying about. american it wasn't about. american sentiments at the screen it was about a very curious domestic condition and the people had a collective the you know about changing whether the american media cannot step up to how progressive this revolution was in portraying it and it becomes a problem but this is a very progressive revolution i can assure you well i remember one of the first barack obama made when he became president was he made a grand speech here in cairo promised a lot of things and then renay got all those promises but obama's he still held with some steam here or to people kind of now figured out that he is just a banker a puppet when i think. the recent criticism. which we're basically lining up was the regime we're not particularly received with

a lot of acceptance from people here but at this point you could again are making their own reality in are forcing the u.s. administration to respond that way to be so i don't think it matters anymore. but obama's policy is he really needs to react to what's happening here i guess the body is in his court at this point that's the thing is that he's reacting he's behind the curve he seems lost and unfortunately he doesn't seem to have any vision or idea of what might be a good future for this country in this region side of the interest of his bankers to keep him in his office you know he's kind of their their pet but now going forward. a year from now or two years from now what's your best case scenario for cairo egypt a change in the logic of the situation what i mean by changing the logic changing the political culture. it has been extremely hot the action is of the one nine

hundred fifty two military coups in this country and what this spectacle. removing all the power of concentration in the figure of the president and recreating. governance in the form of. three powers that are completely separate from each other executive you just get it and it just sounds familiar yeah sure sounds idea it is when but it's quite possible at this point it is possible as long as you don't let special interest come in and destroy that delicate checks and balances and belts of power ok alina that's going to do it thanks so much for being on the kaiser report thank you and that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy herbert i would like my guest lena going to send me an e-mail please do so i kaiser report it r t t v dot or you the next time.

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